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The Ten Commandments must be displayed in Louisiana classrooms under requirement signed into law

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Congress can “make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

This is such a no-brainer. This new law is unconstitutional.

And idiotic.

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Opponents question the law’s constitutionality, warning that lawsuits are likely to follow

If Trump and his Xtian Nationalist putsch succeed all bets are off.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/17/1198911377/1a-06-17-2024

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Governor says he can’t wait to be sued.

He won’t have to wait long and he’s going to lose.

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Repubs sure brag about protecting the Constitution but always fail to read it...

Freedom of religion means you can't push your far-right Christian nationalism on me or anyone else in a public government institution...

And what are the Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, or Muslim students to do?

This is clear religious fascism, pure and simple...

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These nutters just don't know when to quit. Hopefully even the Trumpist supreme court can put a stop to this.

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Do all the lawmakers follow the Ten Commandments?

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What these stupid law makers don't realise is that the more they force religion down children's throats, the more atheists they create. I came from a society, South Africa pre-1994, that did that. Now after 1994 churches are irrelevant. People are walking away from these religious fanatism, and the churches are empty.

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This is legislation as trolling.

The idiots who wrote and passed this unconstitutional abomination no it’s not constitutional. They know it’s going to be thrown out.

They want to signal their absolutist lunatic base and show them they are just as zealous and extreme.

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There is a reason most people don't know the 10 Commandments, and that's because they are silly. Let's take #2:

You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

No pictures of any animals whatsoever, whether you worship them or not. And if you do draw a picture of an animal, your great grandchildren will be punished.

And people want to put this poppycock up in public schools?

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What happened to the separation of State and Church?

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Thou shalt not commit adultery. I guess that one needs a caveat that that only applies unless you have a cult of rubes to run cover for you.

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wallaceToday  07:58 am JST

What happened to the separation of State and Church?

We have some knuckle draggers that were never on board with that. It's a legitimate question why they are still in the country.

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And one wonders if the Ten Commandments are posted anywhere at Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster....the resident there could certainly benefit from reading and adhering to a few of them...

You shall not make for yourselves an idol. It's obvious MAGA-world is a cult...

You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God. “They’ll be hit so g--damn hard,” while bragging about bombing Islamic State militants. And Trump recounting his warning to a wealthy businessman: “If you don’t support me, you’re going to be so g--damn poor.”

Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Not golf...

You shall not murder. Our democracy...

You shall not commit adultery. And then more adultery...and then more adultery....

You shall not steal. Convicted felon...

You shall not give false testimony. The Big Lie...

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The US Constitution says "Freedom of religion", but that should be read as "freedom FROM religion" too.

Placing any religious texts inside a Govt facility (like a govt school) is banned and should be, since it shows a preference for some religion. That's against the Constitution.

If they are going to allow 1 religion preferential treatment, then they need to provide the same for EVERY OTHER RELIGION AND atheist texts as well. The Church of Devil Worship must have their "commandments" posted just a prominently, for example. Same for the Jedi Order, of course. Yes, that is a recognized religion in the USA.

As a reminder, the full text of the 1st Amendment: ** First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.**

This has been interpreted by courts as the govt will not force or support any religion over another. Basically, having religion on govt property isn't allowed if it isn't shared by all religions AND by atheists.

People and businesses are free to have whatever religious texts they like on their property, but not on local, county, parish, state/commonwealth, or federal lands.

I'm actually pissed that US currency has religious statements on it. It needs to be removed to be more inclusive for people who people in multiple gods and for people who believe in dogs over gods.

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Do all the parents of the children agree?

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Governor says he can’t wait to be sued. 

I’m sure of it

He won’t have to wait long and he’s going to lose.

Depends.

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The law also “authorizes” — but does not require — the display of the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence and the Northwest Ordinance in K-12 public schools.

Why wouldn't we, as Americans, want those displayed?

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What these stupid law makers don't realise is that the more they force religion down children's throats, the more atheists they create.

That depends, particularly in a state where religion very ingrained into the culture, libs try and try to snuff it out on the South and that just ain’t happening.

I came from a society, South Africa pre-1994, that did that. Now after 1994 churches are irrelevant.

South Africa is not the U.S. different country, history and culture.

People are walking away from these religious fanatism, and the churches are empty.

Not in the Deep South, definitely not in the Black and Latino communities

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Not all Americans are Christians. About 63% are Christian (210 million).

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Not all Americans are Christians. About 63% are Christian (210 million).

We know that.

The whataboutism is out early today. 

Translation, the left has zero retort as usual.

That’s because this law is so ridiculous that nobody with a brain bothers to defend it on legal grounds.

That’s what you think.

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"The members of the Constitutional Convention, the group charged with authoring the Constitution, believed that the government should have no power to influence its citizens toward or away from religion. The principle of separating church from state was integral to the framers' understanding of religious freedom."

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bass4funk

Not all Americans are Christians. About 63% are Christian (210 million).

We know that.

"WE" don't know that.

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37% of the school children are not Christians, but it is being forced on them.

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The utter hypocrisy and evilness of these far-right Christian nationalists who use religion to fatten their wallets and then do even worse...

"Another week, and another prominent Christian right pastor gets outed for alleged or apparent sexual abuse. Robert Morris, the founder of Gateway Church in the Dallas suburbs, was accused last week by a woman who says he first molested her when she was 12 years old. The abuse continued for the next five years, she said, until she finally asked adults for help. At the time, Morris was a married man in his mid to late 20s.

Then there's the connection to Donald Trump. Morris served on Trump’s Evangelical Executive Advisory Board during the 2016 campaign and has been a relentless MAGA cheerleader ever since. He has been repeatedly accused by tax experts of violating the law that prohibits churches from endorsing political candidates. Gateway hosted Trump during the 2020 campaign, where Morris explicitly offered thanks to God "for this administration."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-evangelical-abuse-scandal-big-100006058.html

THIS is MAGA-world....

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How long until Mr Landry is on TV praying for forgiveness? The most fervent tend to have the most skeletons.

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"WE" don't know that.

We do know that. Everyone has access to Google and Wikipedia, everyone in some form

37% of the school children are not Christians, but it is being forced on them

63% of woke gender politics is being forced on our children

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A measure too toxic...

The usual conservative hypocresy..

They boast about their freedoms of expression but they are imposing their beliefs on all those who think differently..

Where is the freedom of worship of the constitution and where is the separation of church and state of the Protestant Reformation with which evangelicals so boast of being the champions of faith???..

The US is not a theocracy, it is a democracy, (as far as possible), with an immense diversity of beliefs, creeds and religions, which must all be respected and there is a place for all..

This is only going to divide the nation more and more, accelerating its social decadence..

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Will the classrooms have a bought copy of a Trump Bible?

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This is only going to divide the nation more and more, accelerating its social decadence..

Keep doing China's job easier...

LOL

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We do know that. Everyone has access to Google and Wikipedia, everyone in some form

You might be shocked to hear that 22.5% of all US households—that's 27.6 million homes—have no internet access at all.

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"WE" don't know that.

Non-Americans seem to think they know the ins and outs of America via Google.

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Sounds like pious Repub Matt Gaetz could use a copy of the Ten Commandments in his office too...

"In recent weeks, House Ethics Committee investigators have conducted a string of interviews behind closed doors with numerous women who were witnesses in the years-long Justice Department sex trafficking investigation into Rep. Matt Gaetz, multiple sources familiar with the committee's work tell ABC News.

Investigators have interviewed at least half a dozen women who allegedly attended parties where the Florida congressman was also present and who were paid by Joel Greenberg, Gaetz's one-time close friend. Greenberg was sentenced in 2022 to 11 years in federal prison after pleading guilty to multiple charges including sex trafficking a minor and introducing the minor to other "adult men," sources tell ABC News.

In the interviews, which have previously not been reported, some witnesses have been shown Venmo payments they allegedly received from Gaetz and asked if those payments were for sexual activities.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/witness-tells-house-ethics-committee-090500130.html

THIS is the disgusting, degenerate cesspool that is MAGA-world...

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The Taliban in Afghanistan and Repubs in Red States...

Different religion, same hard-core radical fundamentalists...

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Religious extremists get everywhere these days. If that had happened at our school, we would have removed all the 'NOT's. Thou shalt commit adultery! And as for coveting your neighbour's ass. That would see some highlighting. Maybe some glitter too.

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you know what is outrageous,

total abortion bans even the the case of rape and incest

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https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/sex-education/how-planned-parenthood-teaches-sex-education

Do you even read what you post.

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It's compelled speech.

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Nearly everyone wants young people to get sex education. In fact, over 90% of parents support sex education in both middle and high school. The vast majority of parents, including both Democrats and Republicans, want this education to include topics like birth control, healthy relationships, abstinence, and sexual orientation. So, sex education should be a non-issue in this country.

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Are they going to teach the biblical recommended punishments for breaking these commandments?

Bring the politicians into the classroom to explain them to the kids.

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Steven Miller describing Trump's second term...

The Taliban and Repubs both want to subjugate women - taking away their freedom and treating them like property and baby ovens...

True

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How about they design their own poster, encouraging or instilling values similar to those in the Ten Commandments, but removed from the religious association?

Be kind to one another.

Respect other people's property.

Be honest.

Don't swear.

Chill out for one day a week.

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wallaceToday 09:02 am JST

We do know that. Everyone has access to Google and Wikipedia, everyone in some form

You might be shocked to hear that 22.5% of all US households—that's 27.6 million homes—have no internet access at all.

Half of those don't want an internet connection, probably the elderly, but we have failed to treat it like the electrification of rural areas in the early 20th century.

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zibalaToday 08:38 am JST

The law also “authorizes” — but does not require — the display of the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence and the Northwest Ordinance in K-12 public schools.

Why wouldn't we, as Americans, want those displayed?

Because they completely leave out the Bill of Rights, which is being violated by the 10 commandments cartoon poster nest to it.

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But the Dems are trying to get it through legislation to push it through Kindergarten.

Do you have a specific bill number we can check? I would be interested to see what you are referring to.

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The Taliban and Repubs both want to subjugate women - taking away their freedom and treating them like property and baby ovens...

True

Thanks for that frank admission...its refreshing...

It's now on the record - MAGA-world is enthralled with and admires the Taliban, who they share many of the same values...

So what other sins and debauchery do you want Repubs to take and mirror from the Taliban?

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Education must be non secular, religious education certainly can include a curriculum based study as a subject.

Families can choose to worship on Sunday etc.

My Catholic faith is important to me.

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If left-wingers don't like it, they can always go (back) to California. That's the beauty of a federal system. Don't like it? Move to another state.

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If left-wingers don't like it, they can always go (back) to California. That's the beauty of a federal system. Don't like it? Move to another state.

If right-wingers don't like what's in the Constitution (separation of church and state), pack up and move to Russia. That's the beauty of a Constitutional democracy. Don't like it, move to another country...

If Russia is not your taste, perhaps Afghanistan, which one far-right poster on another thread expressed his admiration and shared values for....

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bass4funkToday 10:32 am JST

but we have failed to treat it like the electrification of rural areas in the early 20th century.

I dunno about that one…

Government insisting that people have access to electricity was too much for ya?

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The Constitution applies to every single state and every single American. No need to change states,

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Bad HaircutToday 10:57 am JST

If left-wingers don't like it, they can always go (back) to California. That's the beauty of a federal system. Don't like it? Move to another state.

Thankfully we have a Bill of Rights so that barbarism doesn't prevail outside of the coastal states.

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There’s no surer way to say “We are bereft of ideas to make life better on a daily basis. So we’ll just pander to religious nut-jobs” than this.

“Screw the law. And when it gets overturned as being blatantly unconstitutional, we’ll fund raise off it with our American Taliban base.”

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If it's a private school, that's one thing. If it's a public school, that's a different thing entirely.

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Part of what made me stop believing in Christianity is learning that it was more about control rather than anything righteous and I say that because of what right wingers do and how they believe their actions are justified by God. Don't forget about Trump's altered bibles he was selling and also lying when swearing on a bible

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There’s no surer way to say “We are bereft of ideas to make life better on a daily basis.

The Dems are incapable of that. Look at how they run their States, particularly the two largest.

So we’ll just pander to religious nut-jobs” than this. 

What did the Dems say about the majority rules?

“Screw the law. And when it gets overturned as being blatantly unconstitutional, we’ll fund raise off it with our American Taliban base.”

So you’re saying that when the Republicans take a page out of the Dems Marxist playbook it’s bad now? Why?

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There’s no surer way to say “We are bereft of ideas to make life better on a daily basis. 

The Dems are incapable of that

When you have no positive argument to make, start each sentence with “The Dems”…

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Utterly moronic.

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What a pitiful day for our MAGA-warriors...they've given us a new definition of failure and exasperation...

They openly state that they're for suspending the Constitutional guarantee of separation of church and state...

They have clearly admitted their admiration for the Taliban in Afghanistan and share their view that women can be subjugated and nothing are but baby ovens...

They post links that are either far off-topic or refute what they are trying to argue...

Lastly, they just give up and resort to that old standby surrender; "Scroll up"...

The MAGA-white flag is flying high today...

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https://www.the74million.org/article/just-24-states-mandate-sex-education-for-k-12-students-and-only-9-require-any-discussion-of-consent-see-how-your-state-stacks-up/

Again, not a curriculum, no mention of kindergarten.

Please read your sources. And while you’re at it, learn what the word “suffice” means.

They’re wrong.

Yeah that was my point.

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The best protection of religious liberties is a secular state. Freedom of, and more importantly, freedom from religion. No preferential treatment or discrimination.

Unfortunately, there are some religious types who aren’t really interested in religious liberties. They want the supremacy of their particular brand of religion. Basically anti-freedom types.

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