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U.S., allies clash with North Korea, China and Russia over failed satellite launch and tensions

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this is really dangerous the way the current overly aggressive US foreign policy is almost forcing Russia, China and North Korea to unite as one.

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this is really dangerous the way the current overly aggressive US foreign policy is almost forcing Russia, China and North Korea to unite as one

Yes, that overly aggressive policy of saying “Stop invading, or threatening and planning on invading your neighbors.”

If only they would peacefully roll tanks into sovereign neighboring countries and peacefully target civilian infrastructure like Putin, or peacefully demand to retake a democratic nation state independent of your rule for the last 80 years with peaceful military force.

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"...almost forcing Russia, China and North Korea to unite as one." You mean like a new Three Stooges or something? lol.

Yes, the US "forced" Russia to lie about, then invade their neighbor's territory. Smh. Yes, the US "forced" China to lie about, then build fake militarized islands in other country's sovereign economic zones. Smh! And yes, the US "forced" the Dictator Lil' Kim to starve his own people, threaten nuclear war against everyone, and shoot missiles over other country's sovereign territory. LOL!

In short: it's seemingly never the dictators' fault, is it? lol. So my next question is: how low can you go? What next...Stalin's deliberate starving of Ukrainians during the Holodomor was...Ukraine or the US's fault? Japan "had to" bomb Pearl Harbor and wreak death and destruction clear across Asia because..."they were forced to"? lol. Revisionism in its purest form!

Good grief! How we bend over backwards to excuse away what dictators have chosen to do all by themselves!

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Do they go back to the drawing board or execute the scientists?

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BlacklabelToday  01:48 pm JST

this is really dangerous the way the current overly aggressive US foreign policy is almost forcing Russia, China and North Korea to unite as one

A little history lesson.

In 1950/51 North Korea, backed by Russian jets and pilots, and 3,000,000 Chinese troops fought South Korea backed by the UN Command comprised of 22 nations,

So North Korea, China, Russia united as one is 73 years old. Far older than the "current administration".

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And the USA, Russia and China fought together a few years prior to that.

are those countries also still united as one 80 years later?

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Yes, that overly aggressive policy of saying “Stop invading, or threatening and planning on invading your neighbors.”

No more like everything “we” do is right moral and just cause we made a UN group that says so.

”we” can invade, kill, use cluster munitions, assassinate and even dump nuclear materials into the shared ocean. Our UN says so.

“we” are routine, lawful and defensive. You are not. You have no rights to any of those. our UN group said do.

you three countries? You must follow the rules our group sets the you aren’t a member of.

”we” just driving all the bad guys into one strong united team that hates us and our blatant hypocrisies.

cant even admit dumping nuke waste into the ocean is wrong. but expect these countries to follow climate change regulations we make.

No wonder no one takes “us” seriously.

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Which seems reasonable.

He [Geng Shuang] said the Security Council should not intensify tension but take practical actions to respond to the DPRK’s legitimate concerns and create conditions to relaunch talks.

Apparently it's OK for South Korea to develop ballistic missiles. Shocking, I know. /s

South Korea Completes Hyunmoo-V Ballistic Missile Development https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/07/south-korea-completes-hyunmoo-v-ballistic-missile-development/

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Are any of you really expecting anything from most of these EU countries or Canada/Mexico/Australia/NZ?

if it’s NK, China, Russia and then Iran? Plus maybe India and some African/South American countries against us…..who is on team good guys?

US and maybe UK if Pakistan is neutral and…Japan?

these are scary times.

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Blacklabel

The US is the country which has dropped more munitions on the world than any other country. Including atomic bombs and Agent Orange.

The US has been involved in more wars than any other country.

Don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house.

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Plus “we” already spent a decades worth of our mutual weapons supply on Ukraine.

domt you see a problem? I do.

the days of the USA surviving with weak and spineless leaders are coming to a close.

“the world” against the bad guys will reduce to “USA” vs the bad guys very very quickly.

Hey our country can donate 19 tanks and some 30 year old planes won’t cut it.

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Blacklabel

the IAEA team had scientists from many countries including Korea and China.

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You and I both know that Chinese troops only moved to the China/Korea border as American troops approached the border. MacArthur's nuclear threats were frosting on the UN cake. Mao's clear priority at the time was to wipe out the KMT on Taiwan in the south.

In 1950/51 North Korea, backed by Russian jets and pilots, and 3,000,000 Chinese troops

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The UK needs to step up, instead of hiding behind the US' shadow.

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BlacklabelToday 03:47 pm JST

Are any of you really expecting anything from most of these EU countries or Canada/Mexico/Australia/NZ?

if it’s NK, China, Russia and then Iran? Plus maybe India and some African/South American countries against us…..who is on team good guys?

That's a funny way to describe it when only the dictator cabal of Russica/China/NK/Iran is against us.

these are scary times.

So have some gd patriotism rather than just assuming surrender will appease our enemies.

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NK still got an ambassador at the UN?

Kick him out, him and others like him (another one PUTAin's representative).

But sometimes the UN is just as toothless as the former "League of Nations" (Voelkerbund).

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BlacklabelToday 03:37 pm JST

Yes, that overly aggressive policy of saying “Stop invading, or threatening and planning on invading your neighbors.”

No more like everything “we” do is right moral and just cause we made a UN group that says so.

”we” can invade, kill, use cluster munitions, assassinate and even dump nuclear materials into the shared ocean. Our UN says so.

“we” are routine, lawful and defensive. You are not. You have no rights to any of those. our UN group said do.

If the dictator cabal ain't got no non-criminal friends, it shouldn't be surprised that adverse judgements are handed down against it.

you three countries? You must follow the rules our group sets the you aren’t a member of.

China and Russia are members of the Security Council. That is all that is owed them and they should not receive one iota more until they stop threatening their neighbors.

”we” just driving all the bad guys into one strong united team that hates us and our blatant hypocrisies.

The enemy team has been there a long time, we just have a president that won't brook no surrender to them.

cant even admit dumping nuke waste into the ocean is wrong. but expect these countries to follow climate change regulations we make.

Conflating nuclear waste with climate change for some inexplicable reason?

No wonder no one takes “us” seriously.

They take the US military seriously and that is all that matters.

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BlacklabelToday 03:30 pm JST

And the USA, Russia and China fought together a few years prior to that.

are those countries also still united as one 80 years later?

The current regime in China wasn't the China from WW2. Russia was our enemy before it was our "friend" and you could make a solid case that it was a mistake to offer any assistance to Russia in WW2.

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ZORGToday 05:01 pm JST

That's a funny way to describe it when only the dictator cabal of Russica/China/NK/Iran is against us.

What's really not funny is that we have someone as yourself that presumes to think that only Russia , China , North Korea and Iran are 'the only' nations against the USA

Which i do not regret to inform you is absolutely incorrect !

Name the others then. I will try not to titter as you name the mighty Belarus and Solomon Islands.

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rather than just assuming surrender will appease our enemies.

Did I say that? Nope.

I actually said it’s likely USA fighting the entire bad guy team by ourselves.

“only” those 4 countries and maybe India and Cuba? Is that “only”?

who ya counting on for a strong military response for team good guy against that 4-6 headed monster?

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BlacklabelToday 05:08 pm JST

rather than just assuming surrender will appease our enemies.

Did I say that? Nope.

You're right. We have to infer you are in favor of surrender from the criminal offender you have as your avatar.

I actually said it’s likely USA fighting the entire bad guy team by ourselves.

“only” those 4 countries and maybe India and Cuba? Is that “only”?

India is not an enemy as any honest assessment of the facts will show. Cuba only exists to give content to the wikipedia page for JFK.

who ya counting on for a strong military response for team good guy against that 4-6 headed monster?

If it is a European conflict, all 31 members of the NATO alliance. If it is the Pacific, Australia, and probably Japan will be forced unfortunately into war. It doesn't matter a whole lot though, as a Pacific war would be a naval war. We don't necessarily need a second America to take on China and it's sub-regional power Russia.

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BlacklabelToday 05:14 pm JST

Russia was our enemy before it was our "friend"

as were our current allies of Japan, Italy and Germany.

France immediately “surrendered” (hey there’s that word you repetitively post) and we had to rescue UK.

So point is? Who else on team good guy against the 4-6 baddies + Belarus?

Ah, the mighty Belarus is mentioned!

as were our current allies of Japan, Italy and Germany.

Yes, Japan and Germany we had to end their empires as we still need to end the Russian empire. Italy is a more complicated situation but I would never say an effective enemy.

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somebody hasn’t reviewed the list of militaries by strength.

Ukraine is 15th and can’t even survive an invasion by 1 country without 100 billion in weapons and cash. Much less fight 4-6 at once.

so almost all your NATO plus….Australia? Below 15. To know how weak militaries are, Japan is #8. (nothing without US forces)

Germany is below even Thailand. And Canada and Mexico below them.

good luck with team good guy.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php

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The US and its MINIONS clashed with THE WORLD over who is responsible for rising tensions

A better description given, you know, reality

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I agree that Taiwan is Not China 100%. Especially since Taiwan is not China.

Taiwan is the Real China in my opinion.

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Why is the US afraid of North Korea having ballistic missiles?

Is there a reason for NK to nuke the US preemptively?

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Thomas-Greenfield, the U.S. ambassador, rejected “the disingenuous claims by Russia and China that the U.S. is acting in a hostile manner,” calling the military exercises routine, lawful and defensive.

Defensive.

Lol.

Anyone actually believe that? Haha

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ZORGToday 05:40 pm JST

Yes, Japan and Germany we had to end their empires as we still need to end the Russian empire. Italy is a more complicated situation but I would never say an effective enemy.

What a master of nonsense

If you don't know the Russian Empire officially ended in 1917 then you should probably throw in the towel and Zip it !

I mean really what's the point in commenting anymore ?

Tell us more about the Mongols. It surely is relevant.

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Has anyone outside North Korea died for any causes in the course of North Korea's failed satellite launching?

NO! Then be quiet America, the world have had enough your ridiculous rhetoric. Who is responsible to the world's escalation of conflicts like Ukraine? You, the United States!

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BlacklabelToday  03:30 pm JST

And the USA, Russia and China fought together a few years prior to that.

are those countries also still united as one 80 years later?

No they didn't. The "China" that was a WWII ally was the Republic of China, which today we call Taiwan. The Peoples Republic of China did not even exist until 1949, 4 years after WWII was over.

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I give up, still hearing no strong contenders for team good guy.

NATO sounds great as a name until you see what countries are actually part of that and the world ranks of their militaries.

other than (for now) a Biden led US military fueled by the power of diversity and woke saves the world, again. UK won’t fight any team Pakistan is on. Canada won’t fight China. On and on with wonts and cants

Man, we are so in trouble if these people keep unnecessarily poking the bad guys while are are running out of money and weapons.

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ZORGToday  04:55 pm JST

OssanAmericaToday  03:06 pm JST

A little history lesson.

In 1950/51 North Korea, backed by Russian jets and pilots, and 3,000,000 Chinese troops fought South Korea backed by the UN Command comprised of 22 nations,

So North Korea, China, Russia united as one is 73 years old. Far older than the "current administration".

I strongly suggest Ossan that you don't ever give history lesson ever againThat would probably be best for everyone

It would only be best for those who cite false information. And you support that?

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What do you call people who think democracy isn't a style of government where the population regularly gets to choose whether to keep its leaders, but a brand name bestowed or withdrawn at the whims of Washington?

What do you call people who insist that violently overthrowing or attempting to overthrow a democratically elected government isn't a coup if the US approves of the new government?

I'm trying to come up with a term that adequately conveys the low level of reasoning and integrity that is the hallmark of such people that doesn't violate JT terms of acceptability.

Any suggestions?

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What do you call people who insist that violently overthrowing or attempting to overthrow a democratically elected government isn't a coup if the US approves of the new government?

It’s irrelevant whether any government is approved by another government or not. That is not what makes something a coup.

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deanzaZZRToday  04:13 pm JST

You and I both know that Chinese troops only moved to the China/Korea border as American troops approached the border. 

You and I both know that the Chinese troops did not stop at the border. Instead they entered the Korean Peninsula to fight the UN troops.

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this is really dangerous the way the current overly aggressive US foreign policy is almost forcing Russia, China and North Korea to unite as one.

Overly aggressive US foreign policy? lol Ah yes, currently in 0 wars, the US is being very aggressive. Thanks for the laugh. Isolationism didn't work very well the first time, I'm sure it'll work this time though.

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US foreign policy is not over aggressive.

The hundreds of military bases around the world are purely defensive.

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The hundreds of military bases around the world are purely defensive.

lol That's not aggressive though. The host countries want the bases there. Why do you think US military bases were reopened in the Philippines? It's a direct response to Chinese aggression.

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Cards fan

Today 06:46 pm JST

The hundreds of military bases around the world are purely defensive.

> lol That's not aggressive though.

Hahahaha

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to deter the ever-increasing hostile military acts of the United States and its followers.”

These guys are just making things up. The only ones in the region being hostile are the Chinese. There has been no hostile acts towards North Korea in a very long time.

South Korea has the same right as North Korea itself to hold military drills. They can also hold these drills with other nations if they choose to and such manouvers conducted in their own territory can not be claimed as being hostile to North Korea. And yet the North claims exactly that.

North Korea fires missiles around the region and over Japan and if anything this shows North Korea has hostile intentions. Frequently launching verbal tirades against South Korea and the US in an unhinged manner.

I agree the UN has no right to remove a nations sovereign right's, including the right to develop missiles and launch satellites, but the fact that NK, China and Russia continually lie about the US to shield their own hostile intentions and actions, and to use as an excuse for those hostile actions calls into doubt the true intentions of NK.

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