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'The Voice' singer Christina Grimmie dies after shooting

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By NICKI MAYO and GREG SCHREIER

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A wiki was released in her memory https://www.everipedia.com/christina-grimmie/

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Who silenced her voice is not known but police confirmed her departure to Lord's home. RIP

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Why?

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A gunman opened fire ......... as singer Christina Grimmie signed autographs .......... killing the onetime star of “The Voice” before shooting and killing himself,..............

A publicist for Grimmie, Heather Walsh, said ......... “we can confirm that Christina has passed and went home to be with the Lord.”

What a country! God HELP America.

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"Well Regulated Militia" again...

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Failed gun policy. End of story.

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Failed gun policy. End of story.

Crime statistics would indicate other wise, gun homicides are down nearly 49% in the past 20 years, non-fatal gun assaults are down 69%.

"Well Regulated Militia" again...

Well there are around 70-100+ million gun owners in the USA, if each gun death and gun assault was committed by a different person that would be around 100,000 people at most out of 70-100 million gun owners. Which means at most 0.0014% of the gun owning population are committing crimes which is a very low number. So yes it would appear it is a well regulated militia.

God HELP America.

Get a grip.

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RIP lovely Christina. Burn in hell, yet unnamed murderer!

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RIP She was only 22 yrs old.

Police is still investigating, No one said the gun man is a militia, or regulated militia.

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Poor girl. Thank you NRA.

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And what another waste of a beautiful life.

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Police chief answered some questions. The gunman had two small caliber pistols so he did not come by airline. How he came is also investigated now.

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Crime statistics would indicate other wise, gun homicides are down nearly 49% in the past 20 years, non-fatal gun assaults are down 69%. Crime is down a lot in Japan. In fact crime is down a lot in all of the first world guns or no guns.

So yes it would appear it is a well regulated militia Do you support teens under 18 to carry as long as they are in good standing at their school with no outstanding truancy, a 2.0 GPA at least, and and no juvenile criminal record? Could that make the US any safer? Sounds pretty well regulated to me.

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And 1 week ago at a T.I. concert in NYC, another rapper Troy Ave started shooting backstage and ended up killing his bodyguard and 2 others were seriously injured. What happened to the heavy, detailed security that I experienced going to concerts in the 90s?

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Which means at most 0.0014% of the gun owning population are committing crimes

Is that figure correct? If we restrict just to homicides involving firearms, according to wikipedia there were 11,208 in 2013. Assume they were done by separate people. If there are 100,000,000 gun owners, thats's 0.11208% of the gun owning population killing people. (I think you are confusing percentages with fractions. Easy to do. Just like confusing a loaded gun with an unloaded gun.)

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Do you support teens under 18 to carry as long as they are in good standing at their school with no outstanding truancy, a 2.0 GPA at least, and and no juvenile criminal record? Could that make the US any safer? Sounds pretty well regulated to me.

Federal law in the US prohibits any licensed dealer to sell a hand gun or handgun ammunition to any person under the age of 21. For long guns (rifles and shotguns) the Federal minimum age for purchasing (gun and ammunition) is 18. Some states have minimum age requirements that are lower than the Federal law allows, but Federal law always preempts state law if there is a difference.

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Never heard of this idol. Reminds me of how (Pantera's guitarist) Dimebag Darrel was gunned down on stage. Now that was a true loss.

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Is that figure correct? If we restrict just to homicides involving firearms, according to wikipedia there were 11,208 in 2013. Assume they were done by separate people. If there are 100,000,000 gun owners, thats's 0.11208% of the gun owning population killing people.

Meh..Either way it is a fraction of a fraction of one percent of the gun owning population killing someone which means claiming the gun owning population in the USA is not well regulated is just not true and is basically hyperbolic BS.

And yes you are correct the figure is incorrect, on the low end of the gun owning population it would be 0.14% not the 0.0014% I stated earlier.

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Meh..Either way it is a fraction of a fraction of one percent of the gun owning population killing someone

It's the difference between one in a thousand and one in one hundred thousand. I think that's significant.

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Another trophy for the NRA.

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May her family find peace! This is very sad!

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Police is searching killer's phone now. Killer is 27 yrs old Kevin James Loôbl There is no record she knew killer befor

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Is this like the Lennon/hinckley murder? A lunatic fan twists his own reality in justification to kill.

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Is this like the Lennon/hinckley murder? A lunatic fan twists his own reality in justification to kill.

Yes, a fan who had easy access to one of the hundreds of millions of weapons of quick (and too often mass destruction) that are held in private US arsenals killed this young woman.

But as long as it's someone not known by a gun hugger, they will continue to say shoganai. All they seem to care about is being able to own, collect and shoot guns. They can't accept the externalities. Make the gun huggers pay for all of the extra police, court and medical costs associated with their hobbies. You'll wear that shoe, won't you?

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Had this guy stabbed her several times, like the nutter in Tokyo recently, would you be clamoring the same?

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@Fred Had this guy stabbed her several times, like the nutter in Tokyo recently, would you be clamoring the same?

Clamoring what? That the US has serious gun problems and that the gun community seems to give two nothings for the problems caused by people, including nutters, who kill and maim on a daily (hourly?) basis using guns? Please don't even try to equate guns to knives. Or guns to cars. Or alcohol to guns. Or Boeing 747's.

Gun hobbyists should pay user fees to cover the costs of all the police, court and medical expenses that result from one of their fellow hobbyists - nutter or sane - shooting someone. This young woman had her life taken and her friend's and family's lives seriously damaged because a person had easy access to a gun and used it. What part of that don't you understand?

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The NRA and gun nuts are likely celebrating and figuring out how they can sell the woman's death while pretending to care; suggesting maybe that if everyone had been armed none of this would have happened, etc. In any case, just another day in the yee-haw USA. Pretty hard to feel these things are "tragic" when they are a five-times-a-day event.

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Out of all the celebrity deaths this year this one shocked me the most! My younger sister is the reason I heard of her. Its so sad and to make things worse her twitter account was hacked by some low life and left a tweet stating "the end". This made me even more mad! >=(

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Either way it is a fraction of a fraction of one percent of the gun owning population killing someone which means claiming the gun owning population in the USA is not well regulated Well regulated = registration for any new gun translation in a database like with a car registration. Yes, I agree to that and it's in the constitution.

Had this guy stabbed her several times, like the nutter in Tokyo recently, would you be clamoring the same? I would rather face a stabber than a shooter. And I'm sure the students/teachers at Sandy Hook too. Registration will reduce this. Vote for a politician for strict registration. See how cars are registered? Cars can be dangerous. But imagine all the additional car deaths there would be if there was not a licensing and registration system. Registration is to save lives. Get any gun you want. On a limited basis you can even get a machine gun but it requires strict registration at that level and I have yet to hear of a machine gun massacre.

Federal law in the US prohibits any licensed dealer to sell a hand gun or handgun ammunition to any person under the age of 21. But that's not fair pro NRA people. Adults can protect themselves with guns, but how about teens going out on the night with no adults around? What if they are attacked and no adult is around to protect them. Teens have a right to own guns to protect themselves too, right? I can't believe some of the comments from the 2A freaks here but they are against teens under 18 owning guns as long as they are reliable? That sounds like an infringement on their constitutional rights.

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The killer is 27 yrs old. He is an adult.

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If this is true, we should be taxing rap artists and the thugs of Chicago, Detroit and Compton. Illegal mexicans too, . . . oh wait, they all do NOT pay their taxes taxes. This killer was a white person. Black and Mexican people don't do stuff like this. It was a crazy white person. The same kind shooting abortion doctors, or proud American Trump-voting Bundies aiming rifles at federal officials and bragging about it, or mass shooters.

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Oh, another mentally unstable person with a gun? What excuse is the NRA gonna give this time?

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If guns aren't the problem in US, then what is it about US culture that these shootings keep occurring on a regular basis?

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Update (and this is no joke): Mass shooting at gay club in Orlando Florida. Florida is a Conceal Carry zone, but these open laws don't really stop anyone from doing anything like this.

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If guns aren't the problem in US, then what is it about US culture that these shootings keep occurring on a regular basis?

Just off the top of my head? Well....

1-A culture that glorifies violence and vulgarity. Where violent criminals can become celebrities (and vice-versa) and nobody much minds.

2-Glorification of prison culture and bad guys.

3-The rapid and poorly considered destruction of social values that have been in place for a long time, with nothing to replace them.

4-A culture that emphasises wealth and fame above all else, leading to mass frustration, envy and hostility.

5-A culture that emphasises being number one over being the best one can, setting almost everyone up for failure and resentment.

6-A culture that is non-inclusive to anyone not in select groups. Those on the outside are treated like weirdos undeserving of life, and eccentrics are often punished, unless they are eccentric in an acceptable way.

7-A culture that promotes hostility toward those of different social groups or political persuasions. Just look at the 2016 election commentary on this very website.

I am sure there is much more, but the US is a cold place for many people. Violence and bad attitude (or 'tude) is glamorized, while lack of wealth and/or fame is regarded as failure. No surprise when the outcasts take it out on those who they perceive as having the "success" they are denied.

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I think people needs to avoid mingling with fans. You never know which one will shoot. Many Hollywood top stars do not have fam clubs.

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The guy should've never been able to get in the concert venue with two guns. Having the lack of security measures was the fail here!

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The guy should've never been able to get in the concert venue with two guns. Having the lack of security measures was the fail here!

This is a logical fallacy - as long as there are guns everywhere, sometimes people with guns will find a way through. The only way around it is to get rid of all the guns.

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Well regulated = registration for any new gun translation in a database like with a car registration.

Cars are registered to generate tax revenue to pay for the maintenance of roads, not as a means to deter criminal usage of cars or to make people drive safer. Plus there is zero evidence that the registration of cars in and of itself results in people driving safer and deters criminals from using cars to commit crimes or to facilitate crimes with cars. Perhaps you can find the studies that prove your claim. Finally are you honestly claiming that there have been times when you wanted to physically harm people with a car but was stopped only because your car was registered?

It's the difference between one in a thousand and one in one hundred thousand. I think that's significant.

Well one it isn't and two the odds of person dying in the USA from all causes put together is 1 in 8,000 annually. See if you have a one in thousand chance each year that means it would take you 1000 years on average before it would actually happen and when you consider that the average life span of a human is between 70-100 years old it is irrational and more importantly impractical to make decisions on ownership of products or experiencing of news things based off of such odds, you are not really gaining any real practical benefits.

Finally the odds are far greater that you will die from Alcohol than you are to die from guns, do you consider that enough reason to more heavily regulate Alcohol or to even ban Alcohol or voluntarily give up Alcohol? I doubt you do.

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