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'There will be dad and mum': Putin rules out Russia legalizing gay marriage

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Nature intended for each child to have two parents, one a mother and the other a father.

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Burning Bush: Nature intended for a child to be born out of woman and man.

Fixed it for you.

A child can be raised by men or women.

Invalid CSRF

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Nature intended for each child to have two parents, one a mother and the other a father.

Seems biologically normal and logical to me, once you take the emotion aspect out of the debate.

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President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday Russia would not legalize gay marriage as long as he was in the Kremlin.

If he becomes Supreme Leader, that would mean at least as long as he lives. That one person can exert control over the lives including the sex lives of more than 140,000,000 people is frightening. Except perhaps to those who want to cede their individual freedoms to big brother. The notion of equal rights must frighten weak men who are unwilling to accept the 'others' have rights equal to theirs, that they can no longer consider themselves superior. But then for centuries Russians have accepted big brother, be they a tsar or Stalin, is omnipotent.

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Some people will just see this as Putin imposing his own personal value system on a protesting Russian people, but as the article says:

During his two decades in power, Putin has closely aligned himself with the Orthodox Church and sought to distance Russia from liberal Western values, including attitudes towards homosexuality and gender fluidity.

The Orthodox churches, and the Russian Orthodox church in particular, have a virulent dislike of homosexuality. They influence the people, most of whom identify as Orthodox, and Putin isn't going to upset church and people by adopting Western-style reforms in this area, even if he wanted to, which I doubt.

It's not just the Orthodox. I sometimes think those of us who live in English-speaking and Western European societies should take a look at a world map and realize just how much of a minority we are when it comes to things like marriage reform.

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During his two decades in power, Putin has closely aligned himself with the Orthodox Church and sought to distance Russia from liberal Western values, including attitudes towards homosexuality and gender fluidity.

Why is this in the "news" section when this is purely somebody's ignorant conformist opinion? Russia is a Western country. Last time i saw there weren't Buddhist walking around in Russia, and there is no such thing as "western liberal values". Imagine trying to claim the very notion of being liberal as part of your culture, and then accusing others of being nationalists. This is the very definition of an Ultra chauvinistic attitude. There are liberal values, and there are conservative values. Values don't belong to any particular country, let alone fictional non-existent region that exists in the minds of tabloid authors and their books.

Germany legalized same sex marriage literally less than 3 years ago. Were their values "non-liberal" up until then? Was Germany a "non-western country'' until 3 years ago? Italy still hasn't legalized it, so i guess Italians aren't Liberal then. In the US, Obama unconstitutionally made same sex marriage federal law in 2015, despite almost half the states opposing it to this day, some even explicitly banning it. So i guess those states aren't Western, and don't have Liberal values then. In fact, Americans used to lynch Black people on the streets less than 50 years ago, so i guess America wasn't a Western country 50 years ago. And Europeans used to chase witches and burn them alive few hundred years ago, i guess they weren't Western too, since the very definition of this enigmatic term means modernity and everything holy in the universe. Thailand and few other east Asian countries have legalized gay marriage, i guess that makes them Western Liberal Democracies now.

This is an absolute cult perpetuated by mindless conformity. There is no other way to put it. They can't report the news without turning everything into my group is better than your group. News should be about reporting facts, not reporting your narrative. If i wanted to hear your narrative i would go the opinion section.

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Why is this in the "news" section when this is purely somebody's ignorant conformist opinion?

You make some good points, but the article is about the Head of the Russian State making a public statement about an issue of current interest to many people of differing opinions both inside and outside Russia, and is therefore worthy of being in the news section.

The quote you've highlighted at the top of your post doesn't seem to me particularly like an intrusion of the writer's opinion into the article. It's not necessarily an implied criticism of Putin's stance on these issues, more a straight description. I think Putin, for one, is very clear in his own mind what "liberal Western values" are, and to what extent they are applicable to, or popular in, Russia.

Russia is a Western country.

Russia is both Western, and Eastern. European, and Asian. And it's always been different to those countries that lie to the west of its borders.

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@TumbleDry

Burning Bush: Nature intended for a child to be born out of woman and man.

Fixed it for you.

A child can be raised by men or women.

Fixed it for you.

There is a difference between "be born" and "be raised".

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Russia is still stuck in the hard right "Christian fundamentalist conservative" ideology. Homophobic, regressive, ignorant, hypocritical, and judgemental. Religious fanaticism is what I call it. Casting stones instead of looking at their own wrong doings.

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Why is it so hard for people to leave other people alone to live their lives? As long as two people are consenting to their personal relationship it is nobody elses damned business. It is exactly the same situation the Lovings were in where other people decided to wrongfully involve themselves into preventing a relationship between two people.

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