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Trump and allies still refuse election loss

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By COLLEEN LONG, ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and ZEKE MILLER

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Trump and allies are unpatriotic morons who are continuing to undermine the foundations of our democratic republic. Only the ignorant and willfully ignorant continue to support Trump and repeat his election fraud nonsense.

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“This election was rigged and we can’t let that happen," Trump said by phone, offering no specific evidence.

Once again 'offering no specific evidence'. That his US supporters continue to believe him after telling 20,000+ 'intentional misinformations' says a lot about them. Much to the delight of his 'foreign' supporters and others who want Trump to drag the country even lower.

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The election should be fair, transparent, lawful and orderly.

That requires patience and due process.

Why are the Dems trying so hard to circumvent the checks and balances that are in place to protect the legitimacy of the election?

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The election should be fair, transparent, lawful and orderly.

It was.

That requires patience and due process.

Trump has been given his due rices and the courts have been tossing his cases for lack of evidence.

Why are the Dems trying so hard to circumvent the checks and balances that are in place to protect the legitimacy of the election?

They aren’t, which you would know if you chose to get your information from credible sources instead of Fox “News” and RT.

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The election was the safest in history, according to the Homeland Security.

Trump could have his time in court if he files the evidence of frauds. WH staff and others trying to distance themselves from Trump.

The checks and balance like a vote recount in Georgia didn't change the outcome of a Biden win.

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Just look at all of those angry and spoiled white people in the photo.

Dumb Eric beside his rabid wife along with crazy Rudy. What a combo.

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Trump’s strategy, his allies concede in private, wasn’t to change the outcome, but to create a host of phantom claims about the 2020 presidential race that would infect the nation with doubt and keep his base loyal, even though the winner was clear and there has been no evidence of mass voter fraud.

Trump's lawyers strategy was fishy from the beginning. When you set up hotlines for people to call in to state claims of fraud, in order to get so called evidence, you know you're in trouble. They've been fishing all along. Just making stuff up and seeing which stuff will stick. Well, nothing can stick without evidence. They can make as many claims on TV, radio, etc. as they want, but they had better back it up with evidence when presenting their cases in a court of law.

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We have all the evidence," Trump asserted. “All we need is to have some judge listen to it properly without having a political opinion.”

Har! Sums it all up really. The trump and his supporters mindset. Everyone is out to get me, whaaa whaaa, it’s not fair, whaaaa, I knew it was rigged, that’s why I’m such a failure, whaaa.

Oh my.

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Look at these bozos in the photo, they're an embarrassment.

Who in their right mind would hire Giuliani as a lead lawyer and who would stand beside his hypocrisy, craziness and what was he doing with his hands downs his pants in a bedroom, with a female reporter who wanted nothing but to dupe him? Too easy!

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Why are the Dems trying so hard to circumvent the checks and balances that are in place to protect the legitimacy of the election?

Ok. So please explain which checks and balances are being circumvented. Just a couple of specific examples.

Then explain exactly what should be done correctly to legitimize the results.

Not vague accusations and gossip. Specifics please.

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“This election was rigged and we can’t let that happen," Trump said by phone, offering no specific evidence.

"While offering no evidence" - pretty much sums up his 34 court loses so far...

The Trump Crazy Train will continue to run so he can keep scamming his supporters out of their money and receive the cult-like adoration his narcissistic personality disorder craves...all while calling them losers and suckers behind their back...

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How is following a legal and constitutional process "undermining the foundations of our republic"? If he loses, he loses.

As for RudyG, how quickly we forget. This man literally risked his life, and that of his family, by prosecuting the Mafia in the 80s. Stones of steel. Turned NYC from a cesspit of sin into a liveable city and internatinal destination in the 90s. Then led New York through the terrorist attack of 9/11 with dignity and grace. So mock him now if you want, but know that he has accomplished things that you couldn't even imagine on your best day.

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So mock him now if you want, but know that he has accomplished things that you couldn't even imagine on your best day.

The past doesn’t excuse the present. That’s why we have phrases like “stained legacy”, “tarnished reputation”, disrepute, blemish, besmirch, dishonor. He deserves all this and much more.

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How is following a legal and constitutional process "undermining the foundations of our republic"? If he loses, he loses. 

He has repeatedly lost, but keeps priming his supporters to doubt the results, which they are swallowing hook, line, sinker, pole, and person fishing. That is undermining the foundations of our democratic republic.

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How is following a legal and constitutional process "undermining the foundations of our republic"? If he loses, he loses.

He lost.

He's trying to disenfranchise enough voters so as for the will of the minority to become president. Doing so would allow a tyrannical minority to oversee the majority.

That's how he's undermining the foundations of the republic, which was based on not repeating the tyranny of English rule.

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Anyone who thinks Trump won't be considered the worst president in the history of America (at least until now) by historians is entirely delusional. They talk about fake-news and sheeple, clearly delusional as to how the entire world sees Trump.

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Once again 'offering no specific evidence'. That his US supporters continue to believe him after telling 20,000+ 'intentional misinformations' says a lot about them.

And there is no way you will ever convince us otherwise, the same way liberals want to believe in the Russia theory, we can’t dissuade them and neither the left can dissuade us on the election results.

Much to the delight of his 'foreign' supporters and others who want Trump to drag the country even lower.

Liberals didn’t think so the last 4 years and now they do?

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So Trump and his debased supporters will believe forever that the election was somehow stolen but can't actually offer up any sort of evidence to prove it.

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How is following a legal and constitutional process "undermining the foundations of our republic"? If he loses, he loses.

The problem is he ISN'T following our legal and Constitutional processes...

When you make an allegation in a court of law, you are required to provide evidence of that allegation - as his 34 loses attest, he hasn't provided any proof...

In fact, his lawyers state the exact opposite;

Giuliani: "This is not a fraud case"...

His Attorney in Pennsylvania: "There is no evidence of any fraud"...

His Attorney in Arizona: "We are not alleging fraud or anyone stealing the election"...

So I'll ask again - please explain why Trump rants and raves about fraud, but his lawyers claim under oath in court that there is no fraud?

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So Trump and his debased supporters will believe forever that the election was somehow stolen but can't actually offer up any sort of evidence to prove it.

So far in the same way liberals believe the Russia conspiracy theory without a shred of evidence. Guess both sides are foolish.

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And there is no way you will ever convince us otherwise,

That’s called willful ignorance.

the same way liberals want to believe in the Russia theory, we can’t dissuade them

Because there was actual evidence of Russian interference, or are you alluding to something else?

and neither the left can dissuade us on the election results.

Despite the utter lack of evidence of fraud, which is called being willfully ignorant.

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So far in the same way liberals believe the Russia conspiracy theory without a shred of evidence. 

What part of the Russian issue are you referring to? There was ample evidence Russia interfered to help Trump. There was ample evidence that Trump obstructed justice.

No liberals deny that there was no evidence of collusion.

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@zichi: The election was the safest in history, according to the Homeland Security.

So with Trump as president the election was the safest in history but four years ago it wasn’t?

No liberals deny that there was no evidence of collusion.

So it was all just a big game to damage Trumps presidency? Hmmm well played.

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So with Trump as president the election was the safest in history but four years ago it wasn’t?

There were no claims of fraud by the democrats in 2016. There were no court cases filed.

It was Trump posting about voter fraud.

"Trump talked about voter fraud off and on for most of the campaign. On Oct. 17, 2016, he tweeted, "Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!""

"The Washington Post reported that so far there were a total of four confirmed cases of voter fraud nationwide in the 2016 election. That’s out of about 135 million votes cast."

https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/dec/17/fact-checking-claims-voter-fraud-2016/

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Rudy Giuliani having a watershed moment in the car park of a landscape firm called the Four Seasons which will be eternally grateful for the free adverts hair dye Rudy gave them. He couldn't even get the booking right. Hilarious to say the least.

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@lincolnman: So I'll ask again - please explain why Trump rants and raves about fraud, but his lawyers claim under oath in court that there is no fraud?

If I had to guess I would say the reason is the same as why the Dems raved about collusion for the last four years when there was no collusion. Russia always tries to undermine the US elections - 2016 was no different than 2012 or 2020. The exception is they convinced the Democrats to use their misinformation to divide the nation and undermine the American political system It worked.

I have come to view presidential elections in America as a swinging pendulum due to the outsized power that has accrued into the hands of the executive branch of government since WWIII. Modern presidents cannot refrain from using the levers of power for their own purposes and invite a backlash from the voters. But now I seen a transformation underway in the role of technology to shape public opinion in its preferred direction. In China you see it’s full implementation. The same companies that helped to build the surveillance state there are operating in the West as well.

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That’s called willful ignorance.

that’s what we call the opposite side.

Because there was actual evidence of Russian interference,

and yet they could not prove that Trump colluded with them that’s the reason why the case fell flat in the impeachment as well and why Trump was acquitted.

Despite the utter lack of evidence of fraud, which is called being willfully ignorant.

I disagree.

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What part of the Russian issue are you referring to? There was ample evidence Russia interfered to help Trump.

...and absolutely zero evidence that it had impact impact on the election results

There was ample evidence that Trump obstructed justice.

The Senate didn’t think so, that is the reason why he was ultimately acquitted and not removed

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It was Trump posting about voter fraud.

Spot on. I clearly remember that even though Trump had won the election, he was whining and claiming fraud that he didn't win the popular vote. The fact that he lost the popular vote twice, should stand as proof that it wasn't rigged. It's like having two massive recounts. The results were the same. It's just that in 2016, he got lucky with the electoral college.

Look, it has to be said again, that even though the results back in 2016 were not to the liking of Democrats and half of Americans, they conceded and there was no frivolous court cases stalling and wasting tons of taxpayers' money. Tradition was followed. Trump is just being petty and is only trying to ease his own ego. He can't stand that more than half of the country hates him. Honestly, I would actually feel a bit more respect for him if he had conceded graciously, than shunning his job and just playing golf all the time. Trump, DO YOUR JOB and hold yourself accountable.

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