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This isn't 'Survivor,' Obama says; Trump, Clinton fire away

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If hillary survives politically it'll be a miracle.

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Will a Clinton president outlaw the merging of the public interest with her own private interests for the sake of self enrichment?

How about being paid millions of dollars for speeches to minority vested interests?

Or maybe she'll flop down on the floor and will have to be picked up?

Trump for POTUS!

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"Hillary Clinton. She'll say anything and change nothing." ("I'm Barack Obama, candidate for president, and I approve this message." - 2008) (I'm Bill Murphy, not a candidate for president, but I approve this message, too.)

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Bill Murphy, what an inconvenient truth that is!

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Seems like the FBI has made the foundation investigation the highest priority with agents spread out across the country, meaning, there must be something of serious interest to the Feds. The plot thickens!

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"Hillary Clinton. She'll say anything and change nothing." ("I'm Barack Obama, candidate for president, and I approve this message." - 2008)

Here's another quote for you:

“I think she’s a wonderful woman. I think she’s a little bit misunderstood. You know, Hillary is a very smart woman. A very tough woman. That’s fine. She’s also a very nice person. I know Hillary and I know her husband very well. They’re fine people." (Donald Trump - 2008)

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hillary will say anything and change nothing. Obama got that right.

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@Strangerland....yes an interesting quote - both quotes are true and documented (the one from President Obama and the one from Mr. Trump)

I still remain convinced that Trump is not fit to be the President and Clinton is probably "more fit". However I think there is now way too much out there on Ms. Clinton. This election is going to be very close and I fear the outcome will tear the country apart further than it is already.

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Obviously, Obama has a bit of free time.....on his way out!

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yes, its over for hillary.

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I'm aware that most Trump supporters are angry white men who want to see the 'system' smashed. They don't seem to care that their candidate has no idea how to replace it let alone 'fix' it beyond finding ways to make him rich enough to pay off his debts to international 'financiers' and increase his personal wealth.

But I have to think among the Trump supporters are Republicans who vote a straight R slate because the Republican Party has been the party of big business and to a lesser degree small business. I assume these supporters are involved in business, have made investments and done well given the historic strength of US markets.

I have little doubt that a Trump presidency will wreak havoc on US and world markets and also on the dollar. What do the Trump supporters who are businessmen and investors think will happen to their investments? Do they honestly think they'll be able to recover their losses in their lifetime if he's successful in smashing the 'system'?

Or do they think it's time to shift all investments to Chinese markets.

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Ptownsend, plenty of people voting for trump are not republicans.

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Ptownsend, plenty of people voting for trump are not republicans.

Quantify that please. 'Plenty' is meaningless. It could be anywhere from 10 people to millions, so it's impossible to verify.

I'd bet that 99% of Trump supporters are Republicans.

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millions.

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The good news: Donald Trump is not going to be president.

The bad news: he will get over 40% of the vote.

The good news: millennials and brown people are lost to the Republican party. Forever.

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millions.

Nope. Dozens.

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@Black Sabbath - I am not a Republican but it seems you think it is a good thing the country is becoming more and more divided by the day?

I think most people are thoroughly disgusted by both parties and most (not all) are now choosing what they think the best candidate is between 2 evils.

The best thing that could happen would be that some 3rd Party that is truly interested in representing the people (not getting continuously re-elected) would emerge.

Trump has said numerous things that I find make him unworthy of becoming President, however one thing he did say the other day is that he is for a Constitutional amendment imposing term limits, which I agree with completely. However this would require a 2/3 vote by Congress and therefore will never happen. They will not vote themselves out of the gravy train.

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I think most people are thoroughly disgusted by both parties

Unfortunately, the Republicans have sold the lie that both parties are equally bad. The Republicans have been obstructionists for the past eight years, and then blamed their obstructionism on the Democratic party. See this video for understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibDgSd02Xk

The country needs a 3rd party - the party of fiscal responsibility. Personally, when it comes to moral issues, like taking care of the poor, assisting minorities etc, I'm strongly liberal. But when it comes to fiscal matters, I'm very center, if not conservative. But right now the options are the Democrats, who while great with moral issues are often not as good with financial issues, or the Republicans who are horrible when it comes to moral issues, and unfortunately not so good with the economy either (look at how the economies have fared under the past few republican presidents vs. democratic presidents).

If there were a center party, who were more fiscally responsible than the left, and less morally reprehensible than the right, they would be an easy choice for people like me.

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Stranger: lot of Republican voters and conservatives are all doom and gloom about 'the two party system.' bla bla bla.

You don't see that kind of talk coming from blacks, browns, Democrats and liberals.

Gee, I wonder why?

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Tokyo-Engr, some good points. One of the most surprising things for me is how the hillary fans simply cannot comprehend that she is (healthily) disliked and distrusted by large swaths of the population who are not republicans, racists, homophobes etc and who will NOT support her.

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One of the most surprising things for me is how the hillary fans simply cannot comprehend that she is (healthily) disliked and distrusted by large swaths of the population who are not republicans, racists, homophobes etc and who will NOT support her.

I think we comprehend it, we just know that they have been sold a lie, and that she's not nearly as bad as the right would have you believe from their smear campaign.

I believe you fully believe she is as evil as you say she is. I just think it's unfortunate that people are sheep, and unable to discern the truth from the smear.

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Anyways, back to the real point:

ATTENTION TRUMP SUPPORTERS:

Clinton is going to win, and win big. I had an offer going last summer. You all remember it. It went like this:

If Clinton wings, you go away for six months. If Trump wins, I go away for six months. No sock puppets. Just. Go. Away.

Only one you had the guts to take it. Fizzbit.

I am so certain that Fizzbitt will be going away for six months, I am so confident in my gal, that I now re-offer my bet to all those here who support Trump.

Either you take it, or you don't.

If you don't, its because you know I am right, and you are wrong.

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Riiiight...and the FBI has bought it too.

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The country is dangerously divided and I still hold my original statement that regardless of who wins I think the outcome will further divide a dangerously divided populace.

@Strangerland - you made some interesting points however you do not think most people are thoroughly disgusted by both parties? If there were a 3rd Party as you describe (they would have to be fiscally conservative) I am on board with you.

@Black Sabbath - Here are some interesting articles on the 2 party system. I think there are a lot of liberals who also think the cards are stacked against them

http://houseofpublicdiscourse.blogspot.jp/2016/08/americas-fed-up-with-rigged-two-party.html

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-crashing-americas-two-party-system-thats-why-establishment-democrats-are-so

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/267222-the-two-party-system-is-destroying-america

And Puff Daddy had some interesting things to say about President Obama http://truthfeed.com/rapper-puff-daddy-says-obama-abandoned-blacks-and-they-shouldnt-vote-for-hillary/21434/

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Riiiight...and the FBI has bought it too.

I don't see that they've bought anything. They previously investigated, and based on the evidence, they found no culpability. Yet you've been sold the lie that they were somehow bought off, as if that could happen without being found out.

Now they have new mails to look at, so they are doing what they do - investigating the evidence. They haven't made any claims or judgements one way or the other, even though you've been sold the lie that they think she is guilty so they re-opened the case. The reality is that they are still investigating, and will again come to a judgement based on the evidence.

The FBI is doing what they do, investigating. As they should. Anyone who reads any more into that is someone who is buying lies.

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yes, before this election debacle took attention away from the fact, obama was quietly acknowledged as being a huge dissapointment - for blacks and whites. he'll not be remembered as a great president. probably nothing more than "americas first black president".

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Trump has done nothing for the country in the last 30 years, zero. He did not even volunteer at the soup kitchen. Nor did he help out during the 9/11 crisis. He visited the 9/11 Memorial first time only this year.

The so called jobs he created hiring illegal workers, generated very little to the national GDP because his of bankruptcies, not one but four of them. To have someone with his record at the economic helm is scary. Lets forget about the nuclear codes.

The man is clueless and inept. He is tax evader and a liar and not fit to be President.

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A HRC canticle: As it was then, is now and ever shall be, war without end. ... ... ... Black Sabbath: I don't think you'll find many black and brown war veterans saying "Amen" to that. Clinton's just another fork-tongued white person ready to use these people as cannon fodder. Of course, many white people do talk straight and such people can be persuaded if given a good argument. They aren't nearly as "stupid" as elitist commenters here and Hillary Clinton think they are. By the way, many "browns" I know prefer Antonio or Tony or guy or - deep shudder - American to "brown". We at least recognize each other's humanity.

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Hillary & Red Revolutionaries,

Stronger Together!
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I'm aware that most Trump supporters are angry white men who want to see the 'system' smashed.

Yes, get rid of the PC and make it equal and fair for everyone, not just minorities.

They don't seem to care that their candidate has no idea how to replace it let alone 'fix' it beyond finding ways to make him rich enough to pay off his debts to international 'financiers' and increase his personal wealth.

Oh, and Hillary can? She can't even get her emails straight.

But I have to think among the Trump supporters are Republicans who vote a straight R slate because the Republican Party has been the party of big business and to a lesser degree small business. I assume these supporters are involved in business, have made investments and done well given the historic strength of US markets.

Well, the Democrats pretty much killed the small businesses

I have little doubt that a Trump presidency will wreak havoc on US and world markets and also on the dollar. What do the Trump supporters who are businessmen and investors think will happen to their investments? Do they honestly think they'll be able to recover their losses in their lifetime if he's successful in smashing the 'system'?

Probably, if not in his first administration, maybe 2nd if he gets that far.

Or do they think it's time to shift all investments to Chinese markets.

Doubt it.

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"yes, before this election debacle took attention away from the fact, obama was quietly acknowledged as being a huge dissapointment - for blacks and whites. he'll not be remembered as a great president. probably nothing more than "americas first black president".

I think he'll go down as a decent president who steadied the ship after the calamitous administration which came before him. He's been cool-headed, practical and restored dignity to the office after the cross-eyed, illiterate, warmongering religious bonehead who preceded him dragged it through the mud.

Let's put it this way, if he was allowed to run for a third term, he'd annihilate Trump.

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yes, before this election debacle took attention away from the fact, obama was quietly acknowledged as being a huge dissapointment - for blacks and whites.

More of the lies you've been sold. Have you actually talked to any black people in the US? Obama is still hugely popular in the black community. And his approval ratings have been high - more than enough to get him re-elected.

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I dont think so, strangerland. Americans have had enough. his administration is all "class" and no action.

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More of the lies you've been sold. Have you actually talked to any black people in the US? Obama is still hugely popular in the black community. And his approval ratings have been high - more than enough to get him re-elected.

A lot of younger Black citizens are beginning to question the group subservience to the Democrat party. You can see the rumblings in social media and increasingly frequent individuals speaking out. The web has helped to democratize politics. Disgruntled minorities no longer have to accept the media portrayal of the Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons speaking for all of them. They can easily find like-minded people and bypass the media filter / echo chamber.

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obama foreign policy record will contribute to the tarnishing of his reputation. of course it was hillary who talked him into some of his more egregious mistakes - libya, etc.

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@Strangerland - When President Obama was elected I was very hopeful and confident race relations would improve in the U.S.

I am not sure if people are being sold lies or not. The interview with Puff Daddy Combs was kind of interesting. I think there are some black people in the U.S. that feel they were short changed and I think they have some valid arguments.

http://truthfeed.com/rapper-puff-daddy-says-obama-abandoned-blacks-and-they-shouldnt-vote-for-hillary/21434/

Does not really matter much as we are a bunch of folks chattering it up on a web site (and we are insignificant in the eyes of the political class) but It is interesting that there are some of us that seem to have much in common with Ms. Clinton's supporters but if we are not 100% on board it is not good enough.

I would say the politicians have done a great job of dividing and conquering the masses....and.... In spite of the things Trump says I do not think Trump would be any different in the end.

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The Dems sitting on their butts waiting for demographics to save them are in for a rude surprise. US-born Hispanics are far less likely to vote Democrat than those born in foreign countries. In fact 3rd generation Hispanics don't vote much differently than their White neighbors. That's why they need open borders: to keep a constantly flow of foreign-born coming in. End that and assimilation will gradually take care of the problem.

The hoopla about the youth vote is more of the same. The young will grow up and get mugged by reality so their naive support for socialist silliness declines as they mature. A lot of long-haired kids from the 1960s became hard-core Reaganites in the 1980s once they grew up and had families of their own.

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I dont think so, strangerland. Americans have had enough. his administration is all "class" and no action.

This comment is entirely rhetoric, unverifiable, and unquantifiable. However, it's entirely possible to quantify whether or not people are satisfied with him, and the numbers show they are.

I'll take the truth of numbers over the lies of rhetoric any day.

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There will still be problems regardless of who is elected. If it's Clinton, the GOP is too fractured to create policy anymore so they will be forced to continue with obstructionism. The key is to be needed. If you are too broken to create a healthcare alternative to Obamacare, just present yourself as the savior of the Republic by stopping the Democrats. The GOP would often vote against things they agreed with if Obama wanted it and I can't see that reversing under Hillary. More dysfunction.

If Trump is elected then no one really knows what will happen. Paul Ryan has showed he puts party before country so he will find a way to live with Donald in order to get his agenda passed. That's to say he will stand next to a pu*** grabber and smile if he has a better chance for a conservative budget. But there will be tension. Republicans do not like to compromise, not even with each other, which is why they have no policy wins. It will be more of the same.

The GOP is already putting out feelers for denying all Clinton Supreme Court nominees so as I said months ago, we will be at 8 justices for at least the next 4 years. They see a Democratic president's right to choose a justice as an existential threat to their party. Lower level judges will continue to be blocked by the GOP, even ones they have supported in the past, so the Judicial Branch will get hollowed out.

I can't see any way the GOP can expand their base unless they change, but I can't see them changing, so things will get worse before they get better. The GOP needs a fresh, young face to step up and create a more moderate faction. I meet some decent Republicans here in Arizona and they just don't seem anything like their leaders are. Check out Senator Jeff Flake if you want to see a smart Republican who could be a great face for the party.

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I think he'll go down as a decent president who steadied the ship after the calamitous administration which came before him. He's been cool-headed, practical and restored dignity to the office after the cross-eyed, illiterate, warmongering religious bonehead who preceded him dragged it through the mud.

Some may say that, others will say he was one of the most divisive and stubborn president we have ever had with failed economic policies overall speaking, as we can now see the slow disappearance of the middle class of a man who presided over the largest US national debt of $20 Trillion and a president that strained race relations to historic levels not seen since the 60's.

Let's put it this way, if he was allowed to run for a third term, he'd annihilate Trump.

Well, thank the lord that will never happen!

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Trump has the wind at his back!! TRUMP/PENCE 2017!

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@yakyak Not sure if you're a troll or not, but the election is is year...

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@Bass

My opinion of your post....for what it is worth

"Some may say that, others will say he was one of the most divisive"

Regardless if Obama is divisive or not (or the root cause), the country is more divided than when he took office.

" and stubborn president we have ever had"

I am not sure if he is the most stubborn

" with failed economic policies overall speaking, as we can now see the slow disappearance of the middle class"

The middle class is disappearing and quickly. I do not think President Obama started this and this has been going on for a while but it has not reversed or showed improvement during his term.

"of a man who presided over the largest US national debt of $20 Trillion"

I think it is more accurately stated he presided over an increase of the debt to 20 Trillion, otherwise one may believe he caused it. Neither Obama, nor Bush caused this. The debt has been exponentially increasing for quite some time and I believe the root cause goes back to 1913 and the establishment of the Federal Reserve and use of fractional reserve banking in the U.S.

"and a president that strained race relations to historic levels not seen since the 60's."

I agree that race relations are as bad as or worse than the 60's. Whether the President himself is responsible for this is arguable. However I think he could have done more to heal some of the wounds. For example he should have been vocally speaking out against rioting in Charlotte, etc.
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i am writing this for the small 5% of the people that have no idea what is going on. the people that do not know that 99% of what you hear on the msm is propoganda and false news.

92% of americans want hillary prosecuted. that includes at least 92% of the FBI and other 3 letter agencies. at this point anyone still supporting her is part of the problem and also should be voted out. the good thing about trump is he got the bought and paid for out of the woodwork. now americans know who to vote for potus, senate and congress, if you have ties to clinton or support her your out.

the only reason trump will not be elected is because of election fraud.

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92% of americans want hillary prosecuted. that includes at least 92% of the FBI and other 3 letter agencies. at this point anyone still supporting her is part of the problem and also should be voted out. the good thing about trump is he got the bought and paid for out of the woodwork. now americans know who to vote for potus, senate and congress, if you have ties to clinton or support her your out.

the only reason trump will not be elected is because of election fraud.

You've got it backwards. 92% of the people don't want to see Trump as president and think he should be going guilty of child-rape in his upcoming trial.

He's already told his voters to vote twice, and one of them got arrested for it. The only way he will be elected is because of election fraud.

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Obama, do your job? Stop supporting a criminal already, sheesh.

Oh my...

"WIKILEAKS 28 BREAKING NEWS: FBI Finds Possibly Classified Clinton Emails On Wiener's Laptop"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6LTbmc1dqc

"The O'Reilly Factor 11/2/16 | Bill O'Reilly on Donald Trump leading in Polls, Media for Hillary"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9Ld3-88K4

"

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yakyak at Nov. 04, 2016 - 10:44AM JST Trump has the wind at his back!! TRUMP/PENCE 2017! ... ... Reaction to this depends on where you are standing: upwind or downwind. For those supporting him with noses clamped shut, it won't matter. On the other hand, as president, Trump will have to find some way to reconcile the other half of the electorate to his yet to be announced policy details. He'll have to stop cutting big ones if the wind is indeed behind him. I will wish him luck if elected.

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Trump has the wind at his back!! TRUMP/PENCE 2017!

Not sure if you are trolling or not, but the election is this year.

(Moderator, you'll notice I didn't call him a troll but his actions might be perceived as those that a troll might make, ergo the use of the word "trolling". I hope we can still be friends.)

Moderator: The word "troll" is not permissible on this discussion board.

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You've got it backwards. 92% of the people don't want to see Trump as president and think he should be going guilty of child-rape in his upcoming trial.

Here it is again, "ABC Poll: 93% Say Hillary Clinton Should Be Criminally Prosecuted" "More Americans Want Hillary In Prison Than White House" http://yournewswire.com/poll-americans-want-hillary-prison/ "Recent Poll Shows More Americans Want Clinton Indicted than Want Her to Be President Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/recent-poll-shows-americans-want-clinton-indicted-want-president/#7FivOLkTUZRQHYK8.99

It goes on and on and on.

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If it's an ABC poll please provide the link on ABC. Not some tin-foil hat right-wing websites.

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"Clinton’s shrunken lead has given Trump’s campaign a glimmer of hope,"

Ha ha ha ha, if Hillary doesn't have at least an average 8 point "lead" in the mainstream media exit polls, she won't win.

The LA Times has Trump up by 6 points, but what do they know, lol.

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The LA Times has Trump up by 6 points, but what do they know, lol.

The polls are rigged. Trump has told us so.

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If it's an ABC poll please provide the link on ABC. Not some tin-foil hat right-wing websites.

http://wric.com/2016/07/04/8-news-daily-poll-should-hillary-clinton-be-criminally-prosecuted/

You are running out of ammo.

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@Black Sabbath

"The good news: millennials and brown people are lost to the Republican party. Forever."

That is a pretty generalizing statement. I think one could get their teeth knocked out for saying that to someones face! So now if someone has a darker skin complextion, they automatically must be a democrat?

This is exactly the true face of todays liberals that I really dont like. VERY Hypocritical!

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The tipping point has been reached. Hillary is on her way out!

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Oh! My! God!

"The Clintons May Be Involved in Child Trafficking"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9nlknw290

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Trump has the wind at his back!! TRUMP/PENCE 2017!

Not sure if you are a chroll or not, but the election is this year.

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http://wric.com/2016/07/04/8-news-daily-poll-should-hillary-clinton-be-criminally-prosecuted/

You are running out of ammo.

That's not ABC. You made claims of an ABC poll, but don't seem to be able to support it. Why would I need ammo when you're shooting blanks?

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"Ha ha ha ha, if Hillary doesn't have at least an average 8 point "lead" in the mainstream media exit polls, she won't win."

I don't follow this. Does it make sense to anyone?

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Now I know why this comment section is as it is... Trump supporters

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Here it is again, "ABC Poll: 93% Say Hillary Clinton Should Be Criminally Prosecuted" "More Americans Want Hillary In Prison Than White House" http://yournewswire.com/poll-americans-want-hillary-prison/ "Recent Poll Shows More Americans Want Clinton Indicted than Want Her to Be President Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/recent-poll-shows-americans-want-clinton-indicted-want-president/#7FivOLkTUZRQHYK8.99

Liar. Read your own link, it very clearly states 92% of Trump supporters believe she should be prosecuted. Not 92% of all Americans.

And that, folks, is how the US has become so divided. The GOP has no clue aboutvhow to fix the economy or move the country forward, so they lie and refuse to work with Democrats. First it was Mitch McConnel, "my job is to make sure Obama is a one turn president." Then the refusal to hold a hearing on Obama's SCOTUS pick, and now they are threatening to not hear Clinton's nominees if elected. I wouldn't let them run a company holiday party, much less the US government.

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Daniel Neagari at Nov. 04, 2016 - 12:24PM JST Now I know why this comment section is as it is... Trump supporters ... ... ... "As it is"? And how is it? HRC's supporters in these comments seem to boil things down to this: "If you don't support her, you're the enemy." This their Mistress has already said in her "Deplorables" speech. Thankfully, not all Democrats buy into this divide.

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Ignoring that I disagree with the premise of your comment Bill, read through the republican posts in this thread and you'll see that they are doing exactly what you accuse the democratic posters of doing.

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The polls are rigged. Trump has told us so.

But Democrats always say it's not, so maybe they're right for once.

You've got it backwards. 92% of the people don't want to see Trump as president and think he should be going guilty of child-rape in his upcoming trial.

92% if that were true he wouldn't be leading in many of the battleground states, if there is even some truth to those allegations. But what's more interesting is, that's the ONLY thing liberals and Hillary can come up with, they can't run on any policies, it's late in the hour, the Feds are breathing down this woman's throat, the pressure is mounting, the Dems are panicking and the only thing they can muster now is: the woman attack and being out once again, Alicia Merchado???? Seriously? Smh.

He's already told his voters to vote twice, and one of them got arrested for it. The only way he will be elected is because of election fraud.

And the Dems have been doing this for years, nothing new. So don't be alarmed, I'm sure the Dems will come up with a better plan to cheat the system.

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Heh. I've been around long to remember many of the same conservatives who are predicting a Trump victory next week having done so re: Romney four years ago, and for the same reasons: The polls are rigged, and some invisible force of GOP supporters will magically materialize. Didn't happen then; won't happen now.

The only two questions are the margin by which the Dems take the Senate and how Trump supporters will handle their defeat.

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That's not ABC. You made claims of an ABC poll, but don't seem to be able to support it. Why would I need ammo when you're shooting blanks?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-charges-poll/

Gift wrapped.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-charges-poll/ Gift wrapped.

Again, 90% of Republicans. Not 90% of Americans. The actual number of people disapproving of the FBI's handling of the case is nowhere near 90%.

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"“This isn’t a joke. This isn’t ‘Survivor.’ This isn’t ‘The Bachelorette.’”

His favorite TV shows probably. If only Obama spend less time watching TV shows, appearing on late night shows and playing golf, the country would be in a better state.

"we would have a commander in chief who is completely out of his depth"

She means he won't know how to hit the delete for emails? Use Bleachit? Run state business according to amount of donations? Let govt emails end up on a sextingaholic?

What is this woman screeching about?

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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-charges-poll/

Gift wrapped.

Thanks. As I suspected, the numbers from the poll are entirely different than the original quote claimed:

92% of americans want hillary prosecuted. that includes at least 92% of the FBI and other 3 letter agencies.

There is nothing in the poll to even suggest anything in that quote is correct.

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Dear me. The level of accuracy coming from the Trump supporters is sinking fast. Over the past week or so I've read stuff on here which is insultingly ridiculous.

This is not a Fox News or Breitbart audience here. Show some respect.

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This is not a Fox News or Breitbart audience here. Show some respect.

I am just glad our Trumpster friends big enough to finally admit CNN is a legit news source. I am sure they will stop complaining about CNN's biased polls, will they? ;)

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"Here we go again with the Clintons — you remember the impeachment and the problems.” Trump said Thursday at a rally in Jacksonville. “That’s not what we need in our country, folks. We need someone who is ready to go to work.”

Who does Trump think he's fooling? Even if he were to get elected, his presidency will immediately start off with noe one, but two indictments. One for fraud through his Trump "university" scam, and another for raping a 13-year-old in the 90s.

Does he think these two things are going to magically go away?

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Dear me. The level of accuracy coming from the Trump supporters is sinking fast.

Actually, it's Hillary that's sinking quite fast.

Over the past week or so I've read stuff on here which is insultingly ridiculous.

That Hillary could be innocent of all of this?

This is not a Fox News or Breitbart audience here. Show some respect.

FOX News syndrome again? Thank God for them and Wikileaks, or else Hillary would be seen as a Saint.

Who does Trump think he's fooling?

You should be saying, "Who does Hillary think she's fooling?"

Even if he were to get elected, his presidency will immediately start off with noe one, but two indictments.

And where is the proof of that?

One for fraud through his Trump "university" scam, and another for raping a 13-year-old in the 90s.

Ok, so for the Trump U, He'll pay a giant hefty fine and for the other one, it's all alleged. Good luck with that Democrats and DOJ! LOL

Does he think these two things are going to magically go away?

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"Over the past week or so I've read stuff on here which is insultingly ridiculous."

"That Hillary could be innocent of all of this?"

No. I've just read that 93% of Anericans want Clinton convicted. I read Clinton is heading for about 20 million votes. I read that the black people-hating Democrats want to make white people extinct.

Any of this mindless garbage sound familiar?

As I said, it's insulting to people of average intelligence that stupidity like this gets posted. It's like a candidate asking for your vote after telling you the world is 6,000 years old.

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As I said, it's insulting to people of average intelligence that stupidity like this gets posted. It's like a candidate asking for your vote after telling you the world is 6,000 years old.

And the far left liberal frustration continues....

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92% of americans want hillary prosecuted. that includes at least 92% of the FBI and other 3 letter agencies. at this point anyone still supporting her is part of the problem and also should be voted out. the good thing about trump is he got the bought and paid for out of the woodwork. now americans know who to vote for potus, senate and congress, if you have ties to clinton or support her your out.

the only reason trump will not be elected is because of election fraud.

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CNN - the Clinton News Network - has blown a lot of its credibility during this campaign. Its reputation is being shredded by its obvious bias towards hillary, not to mention its darlings feeding CNN debate questions to hillary ahead of time ( for which hillary has yet to apologize - and why would she, cheating is second nature to her). The vacuous, grand-standing Armanpour is one I will never watch or listen to again.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

92% of americans want hillary prosecuted.

Human gullibility know no bounds. It is blessedly generally hidden but outs itself in ways so astounding as to be hilarious each election season. Any rational human seeing this figure would simply burst out laughing, but some seem not to be trolling but to genuinely believe it.

Can't help but to laugh.

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"And the far left liberal frustration continues...."

Nothing to say about the mindless nonsense I gave examples of? It is truly shocking trash, isn't it?

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the only reason trump will not be elected is because of election fraud.

The only reason Trump will not get elected is because he's a vile, detestable, amoral human being who panders to the worst humanity has to offer in order to feed his insatiably huge, casually racist, unrepentantly mysogynisitc ego.

In short, he's an epic a-hole. That's why he'll lose.

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forgetaboutit

92% of americans want hillary prosecuted. that includes at least 92% of the FBI and...

Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it any more true. I'm not a Clinton nor Trump supporter and, for that matter, can't vote for either. However, patently false statements like this do nothing to make Trump look more appealing nor do they affect how people feel about Clinton. They do make Trump supporters that repeat and believe such things look ... , well... , like they really do fit the stereotype of not being sharpest pencils in the box!

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The only reason Trump will not get elected is because he's a vile, detestable, amoral human being who panders to the worst humanity has to offer

And yet Hillary is responsible for decisions that has caused the death of thousands. Weapons saleswoman as well.

Nice value system you have there.

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Fizz, exactly.

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Nothing to say about the mindless nonsense I gave examples of? It is truly shocking trash, isn't it?

I'm sorry, you said, what?

The only reason Trump will not get elected is because he's a vile, detestable, amoral human being who panders to the worst humanity has to offer in order to feed his insatiably huge, casually racist, unrepentantly mysogynisitc ego.

Then we are screwed for sure because Hillary is a criminal and probably THE worst EVER as a politician, so now what do we do? Get back Ted Cruz, Rubio or Carson?

In short, he's an epic a-hole. That's why he'll lose.

And if he doesn't? What then?

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For the hillary lovers here, once the planet is engulfed in perpetual war, You will be the very ones that will be reprimanded. Don't know Trumps track record on war mongering and destruction of sovereignty but I'm not holding my breath to find out.

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Forgetaboutit:

http://thomasdishaw.com/2016/07/abc-poll-93-say-hillary-clinton-criminally-prosecuted/

http://mirrorspectrum.com/info/poll-93-of-americans-want-hillary-clinton-criminally-prosecuted#

This is why I tell people to post reputable websites. Take a look at the actual poll information those links refer to: http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1144a58Clintonemails.pdf

As you can see, both of those links you posted were entirely full of lies, as the actual polling information doesn't support the claims made in the links, or even come close to it.

Yet you people freak out about the MSM and it's bias, and wonder why we don't believe the same lies you believe.

It's because we don't get our news off youtube. If you want to know the truth, go to the source. You didn't do it, and now you look foolish for posting two links to sites that made up a bunch of lies. Fact check yourself man.

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Don't know Trumps track record on war mongering and destruction of sovereignty ....

Hint: Ask Putin. (And ask House Republicans about his tax policy - he's a busy guy, after all, too busy for all of this "policy" stuff).

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The USA has gone through a long crisis of power transferrings, characterizied by the end of President Barack Obama's two terms, and the possible inauguration of the first female President. The historic moment in the US history, as well as the turn around of the global situations. In addition, there have been the Crooked Trump and his cronies who have endangered the nation and poisoned the world opinions by pathetic, Fascist-like "and Gobbels/Stalinist-made political surprises," with the assistance if not inspiration by the enemies of the US national interests and security. The US people, however, will overcome this difficult time of change. We're more than joyful to welcome Prime Minister Abe Shinzo in eayly 2017.

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@bass4funk

And if he doesn't? What then?

Don't worry yourself about that.

He's behind, his campaign was a disaster, and he's out of time. He has lost this election, and will never be a candidate again. He can go back to assaulting women, refusing to pay his bills, and swindling the taxman.

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SHE hasn't been inaugurated yet, hasn't even been elected and the GOP members of Congress are promising at least two years of investigations. Cast your vote for HRC on Nov. 8 with a perspective of optimism, not negativism. SHE is better qualified and better prepared ! Trump is . . . . well, as POTUS would say, "Come on man" ! 1/20/17 - "Madame President" ! It's HER time !

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Strangerland at Nov. 04, 2016 - 12:39PM JST Ignoring that I disagree with the premise of your comment Bill (Biill Murphy's comment). Read through the republican posts in this thread and you'll see that they are doing exactly what you accuse the democratic posters of doing.

... ... Strangerland, few posters identify themselves as Democratic or Republican Party members or supporters. We can only surmise from their comments how they lean. They may only be trolls. There is a lot of "shouting" on this site and vilification not just of both candidates, but of posters themselves. I was amused - not initially I admit - by one troll who referred to me as a "Repiglican". I must say I am partial to pork, but such comments are uncalled for (and probably made at a time of night when the gatekeeper is off duty) and inaccurate as I am not a registered Republican, but a proud member of the My Candidate Will Never Win An Election Party.

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In short, he's an epic a-hole. That's why he'll lose.

And if he doesn't? What then?

We have an epic a-hole (for a short while, most probably) as a president???

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democrats are partial to weiner.

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Strangerland, few posters identify themselves as Democratic or Republican Party members or supporters. We can only surmise from their comments how they lean.

Fair enough, but you did draw a conclusion from posts you deemed to be democratic:

HRC's supporters in these comments seem to boil things down to this: "If you don't support her, you're the enemy."

So if you're able to do that, then you should also be able to deem which ones appear to be from Trump supporters, and in doing so, you will see what I claimed:

read through the republican posts in this thread and you'll see that they are doing exactly what you accuse the democratic posters of doing.

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but strangerland, you often get it wrong in identifying critics of hillary as trump supporters. whats more, you stubbornly stick to your erroneous perceptions.

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Mr.Trump idea of Us v Them is not the American constitution wanted; but real vox populi on meaningful life only. Hillary husband 's issues have no meaning the gentleman raising now.

I don't thing Americans are school boys and girls. They have their own principles valid as ontoday.

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A bigger cloud will follow Trump when he loses.

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Why isn't Trump being investigated for sexual assault? He admitted to it, and has accusers lining up? What's happening there?

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'There are probably lots of bad things Trump's done in his personal life in the past. The ruling class wants Hillary to do bad things to our country in the future.'

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Don't worry yourself about that.

I'm different, I care about my country. So yes, I do worry.

He's behind, his campaign was a disaster,

Both are pretty much tied and he pulled out of that spiral dive, both are tied and Hillary? She has the the FBI breathing down her throat.

and he's out of time. He has lost this election,

Dems said the same thing in 2010 and 2014 and look what happened.

and will never be a candidate again. He can go back to assaulting women, refusing to pay his bills, and swindling the taxman.

And Once again, the far-liberal desperation sets in again.

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This is the type of systemic rigging that makes me feel sick.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/03/federal_judge_slams_north_carolina_voter_purge.html

Biggs called a hearing after the NAACP sued several North Carolina counties for purging nearly 6,700 voters—most of them black Democrats—from the rolls. These purges were legal under a state law that permits any person to revoke any other person’s voting rights. The process is simple: An individual gathers mail that was returned as undeliverable, then challenges the voter registration of residents at those addresses. If those voters do not appear at a county board of elections or return a notarized form, their voting rights are nullified.

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No polls have "turned around", this is the same nonsense that the Lib Media pollsters have been saying for 18 months. ALL OF THE POLLSTERS OVER SAMPLE Democrats. Period. in other words they are lying. Duh, if you axe MORE Democrats who they are voting for, i.e. the Corrupt Clintons, then of course the Corrupt Clintons will poll higher. Except on the last 5 days where ALL the Corrupt Pollsters will want to 'appear" to be corret, now they ALL have to report the true numbers. Trump has been drawing 4,000, 6,000, or 10,000 people with several thousand in overflow rooms. Crooked Hillary draws 50, Kaine just drew 30 people and they had to crop that photo.

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C'mon Obama. You know it's the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar that are funding ISIS.

C'mon Obama. You know the Clinton Foundation was getting millions and millions from Sunni Middle East countries while Hillary was selling weapons to them.

C'mon Obama. Join the human race and stop being an establishment stooge!

This isn’t a joke. This isn’t ‘Jepordy.’ This isn’t ‘Elysium.’” I said, taunting the leader with no leadership skills. “You suck.”

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Biggs called a hearing after the NAACP sued several North Carolina counties for purging nearly 6,700 voters—most of them black Democrats—from the rolls. These purges were legal under a state law that permits any person to revoke any other person’s voting rights. The process is simple: An individual gathers mail that was returned as undeliverable, then challenges the voter registration of residents at those addresses. If those voters do not appear at a county board of elections or return a notarized form, their voting rights are nullified.

But you are silent when it comes to Pedesta giving the thumbs up for illegals to vote.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-podesta-says-ok-illegals-vote-drivers-licence/

And then Jerry Brown, if there isn't a more pathetic human on this planet is allowing illegals to vote.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/10/12/gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-allowing-illegal-aliens-vote/

And then there's the dead people voting.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dead-people-voting-in-colorado/article/2602775

When it comes to cheating, the Dems are a class act like No other.

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Biggs called a hearing after the NAACP sued several North Carolina counties for purging nearly 6,700 voters—most of them black Democrats—from the rolls. These purges were legal under a state law that permits any person to revoke any other person’s voting rights. The process is simple: An individual gathers mail that was returned as undeliverable, then challenges the voter registration of residents at those addresses. If those voters do not appear at a county board of elections or return a notarized form, their voting rights are nullified.

Wow, so it turns out that Trump was right - the election is rigged. But he got it wrong that it was rigged against him, it's rigged for him.

But you are silent when it comes to Pedesta giving the thumbs up for illegals to vote.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-podesta-says-ok-illegals-vote-drivers-licence/

And then Jerry Brown, if there isn't a more pathetic human on this planet is allowing illegals to vote.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/10/12/gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-allowing-illegal-aliens-vote/

Whose silent? The links you have posted have been debunked multiple times. You just show yourself to be not very discerning both by posting links that are lies, and by repeatedly posting them even after they've been shown to be lies.

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FizzBitNOV. 04, 2016 - 06:18PM JST

And yet Hillary is responsible for decisions that has caused the death of thousands. Weapons saleswoman as well.

Trump's never been in a position where he can make such decisions, so it's really a bit of a false comparison. But if he ever is, watch out.

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I'm different, I care about my country. So yes, I do worry.

Bullsh*t. You care so much about your country you plagiarize works of fiction to prove your point. Deplorable.

Dems said the same thing in 2010 and 2014 and look what happened.

How for do you think this gimmick carries you?Other than "Obama is a communist muslim Kenyan," and "were gunna defun Obummer care cuz socialism is duh devil," what does the Alt-Right movement have? Please keep plagiarizing fictitious books, maybe if you repeat your lies enough some gullible maroon will believe you,

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Wow, so it turns out that Trump was right - the election is rigged. But he got it wrong that it was rigged against him, it's rigged for him.

Ahhh, so now you guys want to change it, it's not rigged according to Democrats, but it's rigged for him? Or maybe Hillary just thought she was so darn smart that Kryptonite couldn't even touch her.

Whose silent? The links you have posted have been debunked multiple times.

I see.....Yes, by bias liberals that at the same time want to force the rest of us to view their points as facts and conservatives, whatever they put out is not fact, ever. LMAO!

Strange, one thing about you, I love how you try dude. LOL

You just show yourself to be not very discerning both by posting links that are lies, and by repeatedly posting them even after they've been shown to be lies.

Uh-huh, so I guess the Wikileaks are lies as well, the Russians just went into Pedesta's files, copied them, forged his name gave us all the impression that he said these things, like Jerry Brown as well. Look, you believe what you like, I'm from California and you or anyone else can't tell me what I see with my own eyes. But thanks anyhow.

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In some states felons can't vote. But they have driver's licenses. So write a story saying a driver's license is required to vote and felons have drivers licenses, then end it there. People will fill in the blank and assume that a felon with a license can vote.

The Colorado story is referencing 3 "dead people voting" in the entire state. That confirms our position that while fraud can happen, it can't happen to the degree that the GOP claims, and certainly doesn't need a "remedy" that throws millions of legitimate voters into jeopardy. Judges have referenced this repeatedly when throwing out GOP laws, but bubble dwellers are shielded from this kind of news.

Another thing the rightists ignore/don't get is that these are individuals. They are worried that an individual will take it upon himself to break the law. The GOP plans are by government workers, crafted by elected officials and other partisan party loyalists. With one mailer one person can strip the voting rights away for thousands of voters instantly. On the other side you need 6700 illegal aliens individually deciding to cast a single vote illegally.

That leads us to the typical GOP mantra: party before country.

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Last t speech war. KKK declared all members support Trump. Eric had nice speech against KKK. Trump could use Melanie to explain he is not racist but he was hiding his wife. Finally sne came out to rescue him. Trump is trying to gain black votes and he thanked K K K support. Both parties are courting Latinos with some Spanish greeting wards. Then, Dem VP candidte made campaign history. He spoke

his speech all in Spanish

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If anyone thinks I am in anyway making things up, have a look at this article. Particularly Bass' post from August 27th 4:44am, and then SuperLib's post from post dated August 27uth, 2016 7:12am: https://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/clinton-trump-clash-over-who-is-best-for-u-s-minorities

Time and time again I have said, but Don the Con's legion of dimwits truly are dimwitted tools. Why'd you plagiarize Bass? If you are sooo right, why the hell'd you lie?

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Trump as a president would be the single biggest disaster since WOII. There, I said it.

Whatever you do, vote blue!

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In some states felons can't vote. But they have driver's licenses. So write a story saying a driver's license is required to vote and felons have drivers licenses, then end it there. People will fill in the blank and assume that a felon with a license can vote.

Sure, but the chances of that are a lot lower than people without them or ANY ID whatsoever.

The Colorado story is referencing 3 "dead people voting" in the entire state. That confirms our position that while fraud can happen, it can't happen to the degree that the GOP claims,

How do you know that? You can go back to the late 60's where the Dems were heavily involved in voter fraud, now, you have some cheating on the right from time to time, but from the history and from the Wikileaks, Democrats are just an amazing bunch, skillz all the way.

and certainly doesn't need a "remedy" that throws millions of legitimate voters into jeopardy. Judges have referenced this repeatedly when throwing out GOP laws, but bubble dwellers are shielded from this kind of news.

Oh, you believe that?

Another thing the rightists ignore/don't get is that these are individuals. They are worried that an individual will take it upon himself to break the law.

After what Hillary's been doing, who could ever blame them????

The GOP plans are by government workers, crafted by elected officials and other partisan party loyalists. With one mailer one person can strip the voting rights away for thousands of voters instantly. On the other side you need 6700 illegal aliens individually deciding to cast a single vote illegally.

And you got this from the Daily Kos or Thinkprogress?

That leads us to the typical GOP mantra: party before country.

Sorry, 35,000 emails confirms it's the DNP that always puts self-interests first before country, ask the Blacks that live in poverty and ask the 46 million that are on food stamps.

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Bill Murphy wrote: "HRC's supporters in these comments seem to boil things down to this: "If you don't support her, you're the enemy.""

Strangerland wrote in reply: "So if you're able to do that (i.e., identify HRC's supporters? - B.M.), then you should also be able to deem which ones appear to be from Trump supporters, and in doing so, you will see what I claimed: "read through the republican posts in this thread and you'll see that they are doing exactly what you accuse the democratic posters of doing."

The sun will rise tomorrow and set. Of that I'm certain. Who is a Democratic and who is a Republican among the posters I do not know. Who is a genuine supporter of Clinton or Trump I do not know. You are correct when you say "appear to be", but neither you nor I know them to be someone's supporters. Appearance is often all we have to go on. If this election campaign teaches anything it is that appearances are indeed sometimes deceptive.

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It sure must be nice to have the president and the First Lady of the United States on your side in an election, even if they secretly despise you.

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"It sure must be nice to have the president and the First Lady of the United States on your side in an election, even if they secretly despise you"

It's still nicer than a sincere David Duke and an insincere Ted Cruz.

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LFRAgain

First, none of those S of S murders ran for president.

Second, while selling weapons, to evil nations like Saudi Arabia, her foundation was collecting millions of dollars of donations from those same countries. That's a new one for all of the S of S you listed. If you refuse to see this questionable moral behavior, then you are blind.

Third, I know you would like to keep the topic on Hillary's S of S service only, but compiling all her history; there's a reason "the progressive" Jill Stien calls her the Queen of Corruption.

I'm not sure if you've been behind Hillary this whole campaign or you jumped off the Sanders bandwagon. But again, like many times here, you lefties make the mistake that I'm a republican. Please tell me I'm a republican one more time after I tell you I voted for Obama for his first term and voted for Bill in his first term. ALWAYS end up being pissed by their lies and empty promises. Never voted Rep. So, I hope you take a few seconds to realize that many are sick-n-tired of the bullshit. Anything is better than the establishment pric's.

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bass: Sure, but the chances of that are a lot lower than people without them or ANY ID whatsoever.

That dynamic has always been a part of the discussion.

In multiple cases the courts have ruled that:

A) The GOP has not proven that voter fraud exists to the extent they claim and B) The GOP has not proven their laws would be a remedy, even if their claims were true.

Recent judges have called attention to the fact that the laws impact minorities disproportionally in a way that should have been obvious to those making the laws.

Circling back to your statement, the question becomes this: How many legitimate voters do you want to harm in order to fight a problem you haven't proven exists with a remedy you haven't shown would do any good? If your plans remove more good people than bad people then you've become counterproductive.

And isn't it weird that this is all about voting in person? If you vote by mail like I did then no one checks anything. What do you think about that?

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You can believe that if you want, but there have been so many stories proving otherwise, especially when it involves absentee votes or mail in votes. Now do I think rigging is off the charts, not really, but in some counties and some states that are more harder left leaning, there is quite a bit going on, California without a doubt.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

but there have been so many stories proving otherwise, especially when it involves absentee votes or mail in votes.

Again, all of that is taken into account when the judges say the GOP hasn't proven that fraud exists to any real extent, or that their laws are a remedy. You aren't telling us anything that hasn't already been thrown out by the courts. You should read up on it.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

So, I hope you take a few seconds to realize that many are sick-n-tired of the bullshit. Anything is better than the establishment pric's.

Really, now? Anything is better? Anything?

Talk about being blind.

Trump in this campaign has normalized racism at the national level. You've got the National Front, the American Nazi Party, and The Klu Klux Klan stumping for him on the campaign trail. No, Trump doesn't explicitly endorse their activities, but he isn't exactly saying anything in protest either. This is something unseen in a national political campaign since the 1960s.

He's walked back decades of work in getting society to respect and value women as more than a piece of ass, and his core supporters eat that garbage up. Grabbing women by their genitals? His core supporters turned that into a punchline at his rallies. They even had shirts and hats made up. He's normalized misogyny at a national level.

He rails against anyone who disagrees with him, not by picking apart their arguments with mature, substantive counter arguments. He does it by attacking them personally. If you have disabilities and you disagree with Trump, then he mocks your disability. If you are religious and you disagree with Trump, then he mocks your religion. If you aren't white and you disagree with him, then he mocks your ethnic heritage.

He TWEETS, FFS, at 3:00 AM about sex tapes that don't exist because he's angry someone would dare invoke his obnoxious behavior towards a bueauty queen.

He has no actionable domestic or foreign policies to offer beyond the copious application of superlatives. He is quick to anger and whines like a child when he feels like he's losing.

You honestly expect anyone to believe that such a person is the perfect solution to "establishment prics [sic]?"

Anything is better? Really? Really?!

Wake up, man. I will take an experienced, educated, competent "establishment pric[k]" over a "we had to destroy the village to save it" emotionally crippled candidate any day of the week. And if you really were able to see past your own sanctimonious arrogance, you'd recognize that losing the nose to spite the face is an absolutely stupid way to go about picking a president whose policies could adversely affect the lives of literally billions of people around the globe.

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He's walked back decades of work in getting society to respect and value women as more than a piece of ass, and his core supporters eat that garbage up. Grabbing women by their genitals? His core supporters turned that into a punchline at his rallies. They even had shirts and hats made up. He's normalized misogyny at a national level.

Basically impossible to disagree with that. Even if we play fair and overlook his pussy grabbing comments as not intended for public consumption, this is what we take away from a selection of on-the-record comments made while campaigning.

She was hostile to me in an interview because she was menstruating.

She's too ugly for me to have sexually assaulted her.

She's too ugly to vote for.

My wife's hotter than yours.

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Anything is better? Really? Really?!

Yes! A nuclear war would pretty much walk back everything. Hillary wants a "no fly zone" over Syria. This could start a world war. Why is Obama poking the bear? Over oil and gas, not for some human rights abuses. Why is Obama promoting TPP? Over trade, not some human rights abuses. Get real man!

Trump is what happens when the so called elected "leaders" ignore main street, and they've been ignoring it for decades over multinational corporatism and hegemonic dreams. Hillary has her head so far up the hegemonic machine's ass, and it's not coming out. Your wishful thinking is not going to help. We've had 8 years of Obama with nothing to show for him being the first non-white president. And for some crazy reason you think Hillary will be different. Again, GET REAL MAN!

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Wow! Reading most of these comments make me wonder about the intelligence of humanity. Notice, I said most, not all. FizzBit, great post.

Stngrlnd and LFRAgn.... oh, what is the sense.... what is that phrase they use over there, "But ni Shinju," pearls before swine?

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