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Gareth Myles
Australia women suffer long after they escape from the violence. The default position of the child custody system is joint parenting even when the father has a history of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, sexual abuse, and mental illness. This forces the victim to of violence to face the perpetrator time after time - at child handovers and court hearings - and to engage in consultation on significant choices affecting the child. Such meetings always provide opportunities for further violence and, at the very least, ensure there is no release from the memories. The court will also hold the passport of the child and impose travel restrictions. All ensuring that once a woman is a victim of a violent male, there is no end to the torment. The court system simply perpetuates the abuse on the male's behalf
owzer
Seems a bit of a stretch to tie that to an attack on women. Or did the killer announce otherwise?
diagonalslip
says the country's LEADER.
seems to me that people are marching exactly because he and the rest of the political elite are doing nothing to solve the problem....
MilesTeg
'On average, one woman in Australia is killed by a current or former partner every nine days.'
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/much-loved-emma-bates-becomes-26th-woman-killed-by-violence-this-year/
Hervé L'Eisa
Out of curiosity, what the murder rate/frequency of men? Or overall?
owzer
And one man every month.
Currently, about 56% of Australians are married or partnered up. That means about 14,565,600 people, or 7,282,800 men and 7,282,800 women.
That works out to about 0.00040369% of women and 0.00016477% of men. A difference that is basically statistically insignificant.
Yet, this article is about people "rallying" to demand gender violence justice. How about you just apply the law whenever someone is violent toward another person?
itsonlyrocknroll
"Gender violence" ?
Well first and foremost "Gender violence", a clear understanding, an acceptance that these rallies are highlighting violence against ****women.
Need I have to spell it out for you. It would be wise to acknowledge the fact.
DanteKH
Any gender violence should be oppressed.
Hawk
Who are killed by a current or ex-partner. There's a huge range of violent acts that can fall between a single punch, for example, and a killing. Do you have the stats regarding domestic violence of all types? Thanks in advance.
MilesTeg
'It is estimated that of all Australian adults: 11.3% (2.2 million) had experienced violence from a partner (current or previous cohabiting) 5.9% (1.1 million) had experienced violence from a boyfriend, girlfriend or date. 7.0% (1.4 million) had experienced violence from another family member (ABS 2023c).'
Your stats don't match.
One man every month vs. one women nine days.
Yes men are violent to each other as well but how many are the results of fights and criminal connections.
In most cases where women are victims, the perps are often men not other women. Are women in general as physically strong as men? When men murder men, is there also a prevalence of sexual assault or rape involved.
Nobody is saying that men aren't violent toward other men or that they are not victims. But comparing them to women solely based on the numbers and % doesn't tell the the real situation.
owzer
Yes, but I'm not sharing them.
Wait. I thought YOU were bringing the stats!
Agreed! There's no need to compare. Just prosecute anyone who is violent toward another, regardless of sex, age, religion, ethnicity, etc.
Hawk
Your second argument, sure. And I agree. I simply wonder why your first response is to compare statistics on female vs male victims of intimate partner killings (only) in an attempt to minimise violence towards women:
By the way, I found your source, I think. Let's see what the stats do say about other forms of intimate partner violence:
Quo Primum
The mass stabbing in Sydney was terrible -- but as is so often the case, it's a tragedy that's now being exploited and capitalized on by those pushing a social and ideological agenda.
By the way:
The vast majority of murder victims are men.
Studies show that women commit at least as much domestic violence against men as the other way around.
(It doesn't often show up in crime stats because even the men themselves don't regard it as a crime. And until very recently, the police rarely did either.)
And more child abuse is committed by women than by men.
(No, it's not a valid argument to claim that it's because women are around kids more. That shouldn't matter if women were massively less violent and abusive than men are.)
As for the recent spike in man-on-woman violence in Australia:
I wonder how much of has to do with the "intercultural diversity" pursued by its government allowing in large numbers of "migrants" from countries/cultures where women are routinely treated as inferior to men?
Hawk
Can you link to some of them please? Anecdotally, I've been on the receiving end of at least half a dozen punches, slaps, knee-to-groins, shoves from various female intimate partners over the years -and have delivered exactly zero - so I can definitely believe it. Anyway, thanks in advance.
owzer
The stats say that women are more commonly the victim. I'm not sure how to say this any more clearly, but I am against violence towards women OR men and think that both should be punished. Do you agree or disagree? Thanks in advance.
Hawk
They do. Which is why you wouldn't "share" them. Good to see you finally admit it though.
Perhaps you could start by not implying that because men are also victims of domestic abuse, domestic abuse against women is not a problem.
As I've already said, I agree. You're most welcome.
SAME#
As usual here, some men trying to compare violence against women Vs violence against men.
This is not the point. Check the stats, the facts on every country, women are the vast majority of the victims of violence by a current of former partner. And most of the perpetrators are men.
Don't be offended men. It does not men all men are violent, it means current of former male partners are the majority of the perpetrators and women the majority of the victims.
This is a fact and this is something that should not happen.
Men are more violent than women due to biological reasons, namely testosterone.
owzer
I'm not. I've said more than once that those who abuse others should be punished. Mods deleted one of those, but I did post it. You responded to that post, by the way.
I said I wouldn't share them as a joke. I didn't have any stats that you didn't already have access to, but more than that why do I have to provide stats to prove your point?
Some women abuse. Even more men abuse. One is no worse than the other. Toss all the abusers in jail.