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Australia women suffer long after they escape from the violence. The default position of the child custody system is joint parenting even when the father has a history of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, sexual abuse, and mental illness. This forces the victim to of violence to face the perpetrator time after time - at child handovers and court hearings - and to engage in consultation on significant choices affecting the child. Such meetings always provide opportunities for further violence and, at the very least, ensure there is no release from the memories. The court will also hold the passport of the child and impose travel restrictions. All ensuring that once a woman is a victim of a violent male, there is no end to the torment. The court system simply perpetuates the abuse on the male's behalf

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The rallies also followed a mass stabbing in Sydney this month that killed six people, including five women.

Seems a bit of a stretch to tie that to an attack on women. Or did the killer announce otherwise?

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"I will walk with women across Australia to say enough is enough,"

says the country's LEADER.

seems to me that people are marching exactly because he and the rest of the political elite are doing nothing to solve the problem....

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owzerToday  03:38 pm JST

The rallies also followed a mass stabbing in Sydney this month that killed six people, including five women.

Seems a bit of a stretch to tie that to an attack on women. Or did the killer announce otherwise?

'On average, one woman in Australia is killed by a current or former partner every nine days.'

https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/much-loved-emma-bates-becomes-26th-woman-killed-by-violence-this-year/

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Out of curiosity, what the murder rate/frequency of men? Or overall?

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'On average, one woman in Australia is killed by a current or former partner every nine days.'

And one man every month.

Currently, about 56% of Australians are married or partnered up. That means about 14,565,600 people, or 7,282,800 men and 7,282,800 women.

That works out to about 0.00040369% of women and 0.00016477% of men. A difference that is basically statistically insignificant.

Yet, this article is about people "rallying" to demand gender violence justice. How about you just apply the law whenever someone is violent toward another person?

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"Gender violence" ?

Well first and foremost "Gender violence", a clear understanding, an acceptance that these rallies are highlighting violence against ****women.

Need I have to spell it out for you. It would be wise to acknowledge the fact.

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Any gender violence should be oppressed.

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That works out to about 0.00040369% of women and 0.00016477% of men. A difference that is basically statistically insignificant.

Who are killed by a current or ex-partner. There's a huge range of violent acts that can fall between a single punch, for example, and a killing. Do you have the stats regarding domestic violence of all types? Thanks in advance.

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owzerToday  05:22 pm JST

'On average, one woman in Australia is killed by a current or former partner every nine days.'

And one man every month.

Currently, about 56% of Australians are married or partnered up. That means about 14,565,600 people, or 7,282,800 men and 7,282,800 women.

That works out to about 0.00040369% of women and 0.00016477% of men. A difference that is basically statistically insignificant.

Yet, this article is about people "rallying" to demand gender violence justice. How about you just apply the law whenever someone is violent toward another person?

'It is estimated that of all Australian adults: 11.3% (2.2 million) had experienced violence from a partner (current or previous cohabiting) 5.9% (1.1 million) had experienced violence from a boyfriend, girlfriend or date. 7.0% (1.4 million) had experienced violence from another family member (ABS 2023c).'

Your stats don't match.

One man every month vs. one women nine days.

Yes men are violent to each other as well but how many are the results of fights and criminal connections.

In most cases where women are victims, the perps are often men not other women. Are women in general as physically strong as men? When men murder men, is there also a prevalence of sexual assault or rape involved.

Nobody is saying that men aren't violent toward other men or that they are not victims. But comparing them to women solely based on the numbers and % doesn't tell the the real situation.

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Do you have the stats regarding domestic violence of all types? Thanks in advance.

Yes, but I'm not sharing them.

Wait. I thought YOU were bringing the stats!

Nobody is saying that men aren't violent toward other men or that they are not victims. But comparing them to women solely based on the numbers and % doesn't tell the the real situation.

Agreed! There's no need to compare. Just prosecute anyone who is violent toward another, regardless of sex, age, religion, ethnicity, etc.

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My argument is that we should prosecute anyone who is violent toward another, regardless of sex, age, religion, ethnicity, etc.

Your second argument, sure. And I agree. I simply wonder why your first response is to compare statistics on female vs male victims of intimate partner killings (only) in an attempt to minimise violence towards women:

And one man every month.

That works out to about 0.00040369% of women and 0.00016477% of men. A difference that is basically statistically insignificant.

By the way, I found your source, I think. Let's see what the stats do say about other forms of intimate partner violence:

1 in 6 women have experienced physical or sexual violence by a current or former partner, while for men it is 1 in 16.

75% of victims of domestic violence reported the perpetrator as male, while 25% reported the perpetrator as female.

Overall, 1 in 5 women and 1 in 20 men have experienced sexual violence.

On average, one woman every nine days and one man every month is killed by a current or former partner.

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The mass stabbing in Sydney was terrible -- but as is so often the case, it's a tragedy that's now being exploited and capitalized on by those pushing a social and ideological agenda.

By the way:

The vast majority of murder victims are men.

Studies show that women commit at least as much domestic violence against men as the other way around.

(It doesn't often show up in crime stats because even the men themselves don't regard it as a crime. And until very recently, the police rarely did either.)

And more child abuse is committed by women than by men.

(No, it's not a valid argument to claim that it's because women are around kids more. That shouldn't matter if women were massively less violent and abusive than men are.)

As for the recent spike in man-on-woman violence in Australia:

I wonder how much of has to do with the "intercultural diversity" pursued by its government allowing in large numbers of "migrants" from countries/cultures where women are routinely treated as inferior to men?

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Studies show that women commit at least as much domestic violence against men as the other way around.

Can you link to some of them please? Anecdotally, I've been on the receiving end of at least half a dozen punches, slaps, knee-to-groins, shoves from various female intimate partners over the years -and have delivered exactly zero - so I can definitely believe it. Anyway, thanks in advance.

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By the way, I found your source, I think. Let's see what the stats do say about other forms of intimate partner violence:

The stats say that women are more commonly the victim. I'm not sure how to say this any more clearly, but I am against violence towards women OR men and think that both should be punished. Do you agree or disagree? Thanks in advance.

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The stats say that women are more commonly the victim.

They do. Which is why you wouldn't "share" them. Good to see you finally admit it though.

I'm not sure how to say this any more clearly, but I am against violence towards women OR men and think that both should be punished. 

Perhaps you could start by not implying that because men are also victims of domestic abuse, domestic abuse against women is not a problem.

Do you agree or disagree? Thanks in advance.

As I've already said, I agree. You're most welcome.

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As usual here, some men trying to compare violence against women Vs violence against men.

This is not the point. Check the stats, the facts on every country, women are the vast majority of the victims of violence by a current of former partner. And most of the perpetrators are men.

Don't be offended men. It does not men all men are violent, it means current of former male partners are the majority of the perpetrators and women the majority of the victims.

This is a fact and this is something that should not happen.

Men are more violent than women due to biological reasons, namely testosterone.

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Perhaps you could start by not implying that because men are also victims of domestic abuse, domestic abuse against women is not a problem.

I'm not. I've said more than once that those who abuse others should be punished. Mods deleted one of those, but I did post it. You responded to that post, by the way.

They do. Which is why you wouldn't "share" them. Good to see you finally admit it though.

I said I wouldn't share them as a joke. I didn't have any stats that you didn't already have access to, but more than that why do I have to provide stats to prove your point?

Some women abuse. Even more men abuse. One is no worse than the other. Toss all the abusers in jail.

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