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Tiger Woods' ex-wife breaks silence on divorce

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But I'm sure the money will help her get over it very quickly.

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I don't completely doubt her story and pain, but I wish she hadn't done an interview. It's really not necessary for her to prove anything to anyone, especially not through a gossip rag like People magazine. It just makes her look like she's selling out. I wish her-- and Tiger --all the best. My real sympathy lies with the children.

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Nordegren is from a fairly well off family so the money is more a penalty on Woods and for their kids rather than a change in status for her, so no, she was the real deal

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Well, all in all, Tiger really screwed up this time. Now it will affect his golf game and he will probably not be called a tiger anymore. Maybe they should call him a raccoon or maybe a squall. I think squall is much better since he loves to move from one women to another in a very short time.

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"But no-one really believes that she didn't hit Tiger,do they ?"

Heh, no. She either hit him or my prefered theory is that she caused the crash by grabbing the wheel and caused the crash in a fit of jealous woman-rage.

Then again, those that live by the sword.....

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I remember watching an interview with Japan's premier golfer a few years ago (don't remember his name because I'll happily admit I'm no fan of the game, but you know the guy- friendly smile, little bit chubby- not the kid) and he was talking about his experiences with the major names on the tour. He told some funny anecdotes and whatnot and when the interviewer asked him about Tiger Woods he said that he's really nice in person. And then, without much prompting he added "... but his wife isn't".

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That would be Shigeki Maruyama....his nickname on the tour was "Smiley Maruyama". A very personable guy, well liked on the tour.

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cracaphat said: But no-one really believes that she didn't hit Tiger,do they ?

I do. People usually weave between truths rather than lie about this stuff. I think its highly likely she did not hit him because he ducked. Notice she did not say she did not TRY to hit him. Next:

“I did everything I could to get him out of the locked car,”

Including breaking the window with a golf club? His injuries are easily explained by the crash.

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“It’s hard to think you have this life, and then all of a sudden—was it a lie?

No babe. It was real. And you threw it away over sex. Next time, if you want total control, marry your dog.

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Well Tiger is just dealing with the consequences of his actions. I'm just sitting with the audience eating my popcorn and watching the show. Kinda trashy entertainment though. munch munch

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Tiger Wood's should have stayed single. His money and glory is a babe magnet !!!! Now he can have all the tramps and skanks he wants now.

No she needs the money because she filed for divorce in California. She needs the money because obviously she worked hard with those maids and nannies taking care of the children and the property. She had a hard life !!!! The Tiger family primarily lived in Florida. When she filed for divorce she knew what she was doing. Tiger Woods did most of his "shagging" 80% ( with his 4 iron club) hehehe in Florida.

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No Tiger can use is 4 iron anywhere in the world now. Commence the " shagging " !!!!!

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I think California is one of those states that determines the alimony level based on "the lifestyle to which the spouse has become accustomed". This is gonna be big.

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Ah! Well she is set for life. She will never have to lift a finger to do anything. Talk about being self centered. About hitting the Tiger, things like this happen more than once. Being a guy he would be ashamed to talk about it. Men and their silly pride. She is not as innocent as she pretends!

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HonestDictator said: Well Tiger is just dealing with the consequences of his actions.

The consequences of his actions was an excellent golf game and a happy self and family. What Tiger is dealing with is the consequences of mouths that just could not shut up.

Of course some people try to make believe that all us guys can be at our best and happy with one woman for all time. But many guys can't. The sooner that is accepted and nutty "one-size-fits-all" moralists stop telling us we are all the same, the better the world will be. It took me some time and heart-ache to realize I am not a one-woman man either, and there is NOTHING wrong with that.

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Then Tiger should have found a woman that would allow him to play around. But that's not what he got. He got a woman only wanted him and no others and she didn't want anybody else. You know a monogamous relationship. What conservatives pound the pulpit about until it's Tiger Woods or another celebrity. < :-)

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I don't think it's a matter of morals to expect that when you're married to someone or in a relationship, that they will stay true to you. Or at least some honesty. I don't buy it that men just can't help themselves, as if that's supposed to excuse hurting your partner that way. If you know you simply can't handle being with one person, then don't bother getting married or getting in a relationship unless you and your partner have an understanding about it beforehand. Not this, 'oops I cheated, well I'm a guy, it couldn't be helped.'

I DO buy that people make mistakes however, and I would agree, all the gossip and air time their story got definitely did not help them work any of this out. The media will ruin your life before you do.

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Exactly what I was about to say Kokorocloud. In this day and age though some people start a "relationship" just because they want to sleep with that person. If a person doesn't want to get married, make sure the person you're interested in feels the same. If they don't, leave them alone and move on. Trying to pretend you want commitment just to get something you want while pretty much screwing the other out of what they want is blatant self-centered thinking, or more bluntly pure greed and selfishness.

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kokorocloud said: I don't think it's a matter of morals to expect that when you're married to someone or in a relationship, that they will stay true to you. Or at least some honesty.

So you think Tiger lied about everything? Or the most important thing? Granted, it is not purely a matter of morals, it is natural to be hurt when a lover has another lover, but not everyone feels that. But neither being a moral nor a common feeling makes something right and neither makes it something we can't do anything about. This sort of moral is the kind people make up basing it on natural feelings. But we humans over-ride our natural feelings for many reasons (such as the natural desire to punch others) and I see no reason why jealousy should be an exception. Jealousy is such an ugly and horrible emotion. I have mine under control. Why should we let others let their jealousy run rampant and rob children of a stable home life? Why should we actually pander to and encourage it? That is really what this boils down to. The noisiest among us easily condemn Tiger for doing what is natural, pleasurable and nice. But then they turn around and support Elen's jealousy. What gives? Its not like Tiger ever spoke of leaving her. Its not like Tiger even loved any others. Its not like Tiger gave her a disease. So what exactly is the problem here? Its all about how Ellen feels, and totally at the expense of how Tiger feels and how her children feel. And what Elen feels is pure jealousy. When did that get to be paramount?

If you ask me, the kids come first, and not mommy's jealousy. If she wants a lover too, hey, go for it. They can still be a mom and a dad and a married couple. Is it really so important that they be monogamous lovers too? I don't think so. That is just sex. How and why should Elen's jealousy be more important than the kids having their father around and for Tiger to get his sexual fulfillment? Cause it does not appear that Elen was enough. Look at Tiger's game and tell me sexual fulfillment is not important. And golf is their bread and butter! Look at the kids and tell me jealousy is more important than them.

I don't know how many lovers Tiger had but the rumors say he had many. I don't support that either. Control is necessary, but not just for Tiger. Elen also needs to learn to control her jealousy. By supporting her and others like you, you are not helping. You are actually generating broken families.

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I don't buy it that men just can't help themselves, as if that's supposed to excuse hurting your partner that way.

What people say is shorthand for the truth. You are not reading between the lines. Some people, not only men, need more than one person can give. Those people often don't understand that themselves because what the moralists always preach is along the lines of "one man, one woman, its the road to happiness and everyone can do it". But not everyone can. Look at Tiger. He apologized to Elen and the world. He went into counseling. He promised to change, presumably to being sexual faithful to Elen, and also apparently, his counselors are not telling him who he really is, but what the moralist tripe expects everyone to be. Then, his game went into the toilet. Do the math. Some people are not made to be monogamous, but they are made to feel bad for not being able and/or convinced that they actually are made for it despite the evidence. Its a total headscrew and its bull. And who is there to explain to the sexually light people of the world that there is nothing wrong with them? Who is there to help them find the best path for them to follow? If there were such counselors and if there were not this moralist tripe to contend with, Tiger might never have gotten married in the first place, or, he might have felt more free to find someone more in line with his sexual needs. But since I don't think there are enough such women available, my preference is that he kept his affairs under better control and the world aided him in that by shutting up. In fact, in my world, the National Enquirer would be out of business for breaking the story.

The world needs to be more tolerant of people who need more than one OR stop telling people that everyone can be happy in a monogamous marriage. If you do the opposite and do both, it only makes the more sexual among us confused as they feel bad on the one hand while trying to be something they are not on the other, and have lovers on the side anyway. And like I say, jealousy is an emotion that needs to be weeded out, not sexual encounters beyond one's spouse. Medieval times are done. We got medicine and condoms now. Sex ain't life and death unless people are daft.

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Some people are not made to be monogamous

Mistwizard: I get your point that monogamy is not for everyone. However, he shouldn't have gotten married in the first place. People can still have sex with multiple partners without the marriage. They can even have children without being married. I feel that it is perfectly fine to do so, AS LONG AS YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE VOW OF MARRIAGE. After all, the only difference between being married and not being married is the vow you take. If he wasn't happy in a monogamous marriage, he should've divorced, or separated. Yes it would be difficult, but at least it would be more honorable, and the fallout a lot less.

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Honor is a word that shouldn't be used in the same context as Tiger Woods. He failed at honoring his children, he failed to honor his wife, he failed to honor his fan and he definitely failed to honor the kids who idolized this American sports hero.

Tiger Woods cut his own throat. He has a problem now playing golf with all the fingers being pointed at him. < :-)

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Hotbox08 said: However, he shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

How many times have you had it put to you that people who choose not to get married and have kids but rather have loads of sex partners are completely normal people living a fulfilling life? You think the parents of said person say stuff like that? My point is that Tiger got mindscrewed about this just like everybody else. He, like everyone else, gets told they are something they may not be.

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Hotbox08 said: AS LONG AS YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE VOW OF MARRIAGE.

What vow? To forsake all others? You think that has to do with sex and only sex? What a low opinion you have of marriage vows if so!

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What vow? To forsake all others?

MistWizard: So what are you saying? That it's perfectly fine to get married and have many sex partners, WHILE BEING MARRIED? That to me cheapens the vow of marriage. Tiger Woods took a vow to love his wife and be true to her till death do them part. Did he do that? NO. To say that he is only doing what is "human" is such a cop out. I know many men, both celebrities and non-celebrities who do honor that vow. If they can't, then they get a divorce, or come out and confess to their wives that they are sleeping around and thus get a separation or divorce. Yes, people make mistakes in life, and as long as they come clean and be open about them, there's no problem. It's when they have to lie, hide, and cheat that it becomes a problem.

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MistWizard-- I'm not calling Tiger a liar, I'm saying, he should have been honest and upfront with his wife about it. And why do you assume it's just jealousy on her part? Just like I would never assume that Tiger did any of this to dilberately hurt her, I would not assume that these aren't the words of a broken woman who just had her marriage pretty much torn up in the media. I DO feel more sorry for the children, since they are in the middle of such things. I can't imagine what it's going to do to them.

I would agree, not everyone can be monogamous. I would never, ever say that everyone could be happy in one. But it's not right to be dismissive of those who ARE looking for a monogamous relationship, who go into a relationship, particularly one such as marriage which has definite connotations, and call it moralist tripe. And I just can't feel sorry for people who know they have these wants and desires and feel compelled to get married anyway because of the aforementioned tripe. This is not the Victorian Era we're talking about here. It's not like these people can't make decisions for themselves. Bottom line is-- don't make promises you know you can't keep. And if you happen to slip up, don't sneak around and be all surprised when you get flack for it. Tiger could have ANY woman in the world he wanted, but he got married, and then broke that vow, which for some people is just a piece of paper, but it's still a promise between two people. Marriage does mean something, whether you believe in God or nothing at all, and it's not like people don't know this. The ones who feel they need more than one partner are not completely helpless, and you can be right up front with someone before you get in a relationship.

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