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Tijuana protesters chant 'Out!' at migrants camped in city

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Let's get one thing straight before dishonest conservatives start bloviating on this thread: none of these migrants are undocumented immigrants until they actually enter the US.

I know that will be difficult for you all to accept in your repugnant attempts to dehumanize them, but it's a fact.

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I agree with the residents of Tijuana. I don’t want to pay for these people being in my country illegally either.

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So, it isn’t just the Americans protesting then....

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U.S. President Donald Trump, who sought to make the caravan a campaign issue in the midterm elections, used Twitter on Sunday to voice support for the mayor of Tijuana and try to discourage the migrants from seeking entry to the U.S.

It sounds like Trump's trying to ramp fear levels back up among his followers. After all 'keep fear alive' is fundamental to his holding power over the weak, as it has been for despots throughout history.

Trump's a master media manipulator. Prior to the midterms he twittered daily trying to further scare his already afraid followers, pushing images of the scare-avan coming anon to their towns.

Trump knew his followers would believe his GOP, the Party of big war, guns and ammo, could protect them from people not from their demographic, i.e. sinister others, them, another enemy group to fear.

I wonder how many more guns and how much ammo's been sold since Trump pushed fear level buttons down harder.

I also wonder how much he and his family have invested in US guns and big war industries. Seeing his tax info would help. 8645

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Plus the caravan was just a made up story for the election. these “women and children” won’t be to the border for months, if ever, says Obama. Yet here we have a news story about it. And who are those men claiming over or sitting on the top of our border fence?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/15/media/obama-trump-caravan/index.html

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Is the mayor of Tijuana going to kidnap the migrant children and put them in concentration camps like the fascist Donny Douchebag?

Trump wrote that like Tijuana, "the U.S. is ill-prepared for this invasion, and will not stand for it. They are causing crime and big problems in Mexico. Go home!"

He followed that tweet by writing: "Catch and Release is an obsolete term. It is now Catch and Detain. Illegal Immigrants trying to come into the U.S.A., often proudly flying the flag of their nation as they ask for U.S. Asylum, will be detained or turned away."

He's talking words of war again. He's talking Hitler talk again. Ain't we supposed to be at war with ISIL right now? We sure don't hear about that one anymore! Never mind Afghanistan. Donny Douchebag is nothing but a foul dirty trouble-making xenophobic racist motormouth Mussolini. He's got the maturity and finesse of a 3rd grader who spreads gossip about everybody in school, nothing but a childish brat.

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But Trump wouldn’t talk about it after the election said CNN and Obama. More fake news from them and him.

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It sounds like Trump's trying to ramp fear levels back up among his followers. After all 'keep fear alive' is fundamental to his holding power over the weak, as it has been for despots throughout history.

Uh-huh....yeah, even the mayor of Mexico doesn’t want these migrants. The people don’t want them.

Trump's a master media manipulator. Prior to the midterms he twittered daily trying to further scare his already afraid followers, pushing images of the scare-avan coming anon to their towns. 

The president didn’t do anything the people that live on the border or already angry and scared and frustrated for many years in seeing this caravan just enshrined and increased that fear.

Trump knew his followers would believe his GOP, the Party of big war, guns and ammo, could protect them from people not from their demographic, i.e. sinister others, them, another enemy group to fear.

No amount of flies from liberals and just talk about nothing to fear will resonate with the people. It’s like looking in a car rack and then simply tell you there is no car wreck when you see all the parts and pieces thrown all over the place.

I also wonder how much he and his family have invested in US guns and big war industries. Seeing his tax info would help. 8645

What?

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Isn’t this “racist” to say this? Didn’t someone else we know call this an invasion.....just like the lawful residents of where the caravan illegally is?

They also complained about how the caravan forced its way into Mexico, calling it an "invasion." And they voiced worries that their taxes might be spent to care for the group.

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Avenatti and Keith Ellison

They'd be easily beaten by a repeat of 2016's PutinMbS/trumppence team. Big oil and gas money rules.

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Something to remember: U.S. Southern border agents and staff are still processing the "asylum" claims dating back to this Spring. These new waves of globalist-organized "undocumented immigrants" will become a permanent fixture in Mexico for the foreseeable future; draining the Mexican government of its finances/resources to support them..

President Trump always said Mexico would pay for the wall one way or another. He is now making good on that claim. By directing a slow walk of the existing batch of asylum seekers, he is making this current "caravan" problem Mexico's problem.

One more campaign promise made, one more campaign promise kept.

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“Hundreds of Tijuana residents congregated around a monument in an affluent section of the city south of California on Sunday to protest “

Good. They should protest the Mexican gov, who let them enter, & NOT the Trump Administration. Who said, “turn back.”

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Chip, They wouldn't be undocumented immigrants once they were allowed in through a US border control point and had filed the asylum papers either.

Illegal immigrants hop the border away from a border control point, breaking US law at the time, or they enter by lying on a temporary visa application and disappear inside the USA, never to be found again.

Right now, some of these people in Tijuana are illegal immigrants to Mexico, because they jumped the southern Mexican border.

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They should all get asylum status in USA.

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These new waves of globalist-organized "undocumented immigrants"

Why is the Trump Org. putting together and funding these caravans?

Illegal immigrants hop the border away from a border control point, breaking US law at the time, or they enter by lying on a temporary visa application and disappear inside the USA, never to be found again.

Accuracy is damn near impossible for cons.

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@pTownsend

Trump knew his followers would believe his GOP, the Party of big war, guns and ammo, could protect them from people not from their demographic, i.e. sinister others, them, another enemy group to fear.

Gimme a break. Obama deported more illegal aliens than other president and at a faster rate than Trump, it was reported last year. Trump's stance on this issue is in line with the sentiment of a large segment of the US population, quite a few of them Democrats, and the sentiment was there even before Trump decided to run for office.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/12/14/donald-trump-is-deporting-fewer-people-than-barack-obama-did

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Mexicans who were treating the caravan well knew that it would be gone in a day or two. Tijuanan's know that they will have to put up with their strain on the local economy, local population and their lawlessness for months. 

That is why they are pissed.

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Tijuanan's know that they will have to put up with their strain on the local economy, local population and their lawlessness for months. -- comment

Months? Try years. Y'all obviously didn't hear that the Supreme Court upheld our President's "extreme vetting" portion of the immigration EO 2.0 he signed. There is currently a backlog of nearly 10,000 asylum requests. And those waiting for their cases to be heard are passing their time in detention centers across the fruited plain while their histories are being closely examined. For these new waves of people trying to enter this country, they will be stacking up at Mexico's northern border like cords of wood because we have now put up a "No Vacancy" sign until some detention beds start opening up.

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Mexicans who were treating the caravan well knew that it would be gone in a day or two. Tijuanan's know that they will have to put up with their strain on the local economy, local population and their lawlessness for months. 

That is why they are pissed.

Well, all the more reason we don’t need to this headache as well or they need to follow the rules and procedures and wait in line like every other law abiding citizen.

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Well, all the more reason we don’t need to this headache as well or they need to follow the rules and procedures and wait in line like every other law abiding citizen.

What immigration laws have these people broken? Please note that I am asking about immigration laws, which is what you base your assertions of non-law abiding citizens upon.

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What immigration laws have these people broken?

Trying to enter the country, our country, a sovereign nation for starters.

Please note that I am asking about immigration laws,

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/19/democrats-put-the-needs-of-illegal-immigrants-over/

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Which they havent yet done, for pre-starters.

Well, the majority of them won’t thanks to the Presidents swift decisive action.

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Well, the majority of them won’t thanks to the Presidents swift decisive action.

So you admit you were incorrect when you were using the pejorative "illegals" because they haven't tried to, or yet entered the US. This is progress.

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These migrants are a Political statement sponsored by the US Democrats and CNN.

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I was watching an interview with a young Honduran guy, who was among the folks piled up at the fence in Tijuana. He expressed the opinion that he and his friends felt betrayed. Apparently (according to him) when the caravan recruiters came to his village they assured everyone that if they joined the movement they were certain to get into the US. Now, that the reality of the situation is sinking in this kid and his friends feel they were lied to.

I wonder how many others among the group have a similar tale to tell. I wonder how many have suffered hardship or even paid with their lives for believing the recruitment propaganda and joining in. I'm sure that the organizer's job was made easier by the rhetoric coming out of the US.

This caravan phenomena is about as organic as a polyethylene bucket full of GMO corn. Clearly, this was conceived, planned and executed as part of a political strategy. The sick part is the apparent willingness of the strategists to exploit the hardship of these people, just using them as pawns to advance their political goals.

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Clearly, this was conceived, planned and executed as part of a political strategy

That’s not clear at all. Which points have led you to this conclusion?

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That’s not clear at all.

That depends on the lens you look through.

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I agree, as I look through the lens of facts, rather than the lens of batty conspiracy theories.

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Chip Star - What immigration laws have these people broken? Please note that I am asking about immigration laws, which is what you base your assertions of non-law abiding citizens upon.

Chip Star - So you admit you were incorrect when you were using the pejorative "illegals" because they haven't tried to, or yet entered the US. This is progress.

The illegal alien invaders violated Mexican immigration laws when they entered Mexico.

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 as I look through the lens of facts, rather than the lens of batty conspiracy theories.

Did your "facts" lens happen to pick up the fact that one of the instrumental organizations behind the organizing and facilitation of this caravan was and is Pueblo Sin Fronteras. Pueblo Sin Fronteras makes no secret of the fact that they are a political organization with a specific political agenda. Pueblo Sin Fronteras' stated goal is to create a world without borders or impediments to the free movement of people. "This" caravan, like the ones before it, is part of the effort to achieve that end. What makes this caravan stand out is the sheer size of it and the subsequent political attention it has garnered. But it is still part of an overall political strategy.

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