Police chief: Kneeling on Floyd's neck violated policy

Um, Chauvin is screwed. The police chief of his own department gets on the stand to testify against him.

Let’s see his defenders here spin that.

I watched the video after this happened and my first reaction was just disgust at this cop for kneeling on the guy that long. Still, the drug life is what killed him.

Dr. Bradford Langenfeld, who was a senior resident on duty that night at Hennepin County Medical Center and tried to resuscitate Floyd, took the stand as prosecutors sought to establish that it was Chauvin’s knee on the Black man’s neck that killed him.

Good ole’ MSM, playing with your hearts and minds. So it’s a “black man’s” neck? I like what Charles Barkley said the other day:

“I truly believe in my heart most white people and black people are awesome people, but we’re so stupid following our politicians, whether they’re Republicans or Democrats."

"I think our system is set up where our politicians, whether they’re Republicans or Democrats, are designed to make us not like each other so they can keep their grasp of money and power”

 ****“Hey, let’s make these people not like each other. We don’t live in their neighborhoods, we all got money, let’s make the whites and blacks not like each other, let’s make rich people and poor people not like each other, let’s scramble the middle class.”

Still, the drug life is what killed him.

Nope. Many years ago I paid for an item in a store with a fresh, crisp $20 received just minutes before from my bank's ATM. The clerk in the store refused to accept it, saying it was counterfeit. I explained to her it was fresh out of an ATM and she adamantly refused to accept it. But here is the difference. I'm white. She handed the bill back to me suggesting I take it back to the bank. She took an older $20 in payment and that was the end of it. She didn't call the police and knowing my disposition if she had I would have argued with the cop. Instead I took the $20 back to the bank where it was examined and determined by them to be genuine. Just to make me happy they gave me a replacement and kept the one I gave them. So no, it wasn't the drug life that killed Mr. Floyd but the racism of too many police officers in the US and elsewhere towards blacks.

Still, the drug life is what killed him.

Nonsense. That's like saying an a person died of old age, because they died in a car accident that could have been survived by a younger person.

“But dear Jurors, the big black man might have taken DRUGS! Even though he was handcuffed and on the ground, he was so scary to the 4 guys with guns that we HAD to have a knee on his neck for 3 min after he stopped breathing. Otherwise he might have come back and scared us again.”

Yeah, that might work in Mississippi. Thankfully this trial is in Wisconsin.

Continuing to kneel on Floyd's neck once he was handcuffed behind his back and lying on his stomach was “in no way, shape or form” part of department policy or training, "and it is certainly not part of our ethics or our values,” Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said on Day Six of Chauvin's murder trial.

So long ex-Officer Derek Chauvin. Guilty.

Yeah, that might work in Mississippi. Thankfully this trial is in Wisconsin.

Minneapolis, Wisconsin?

. She took an older $20 in payment and that was the end of it. She didn't call the police and knowing my disposition if she had I would have argued with the cop. Instead I took the $20 back to the bank where it was examined and determined by them to be genuine. Just to make me happy they gave me a replacement and kept the one I gave them. So no, it wasn't the drug life that killed Mr. Floyd but the racism of too many police officers in the US and elsewhere towards blacks.

He bought cigarettes with the the $20 counterfeit bill then refused to give back the cigarettes. Counterfeit bills are often given to store clerks and they automatically return them without police being called. Paying with one then refusing to give back the merchandise is when the police are naturally called.

Paying with one then refusing to give back the merchandise is when the police are naturally called.

Okay and then that is when the police naturally kneel on your neck 9 natural minutes?

Okay and then that is when the police naturally kneel on your neck 9 natural minutes?

I never said that. Calling the police for someone refusing to give back items that they paid with a fake bill is procedure of a store owner/staff. However, you want to jump to extremes and put words in peoples' mouths.

I never said that. Calling the police for someone refusing to give back items that they paid with a fake bill is procedure of a store owner/staff. However, you want to jump to extremes and put words in peoples' mouths

That seems to be your implication. What are you actually trying to say then?

That seems to be your implication. What are you actually trying to say then?

For the 3rd time, someone pays with with a counterfeit bill then refuses to give back the item. At that point, the police were called. It would probably be the same in most countries. What Chauvin did was take matter into his own hands and that is his own fault, not every single police officer in the entire country.

Desert Tortoise cooperated with the sales clerk and took the money back without any fuss. If he left the shop with the item and refused to cooperate, I am pretty sure that the police would have been called no matter what his skin color was.

What Chauvin did was take matter into his own hands and that is his own fault, not every single police officer in the entire country.

Except they're pretty protected by their union from just about any sort of wrongdoing. There is a problem with police brutality and the police need to do something about it.

The police chief dude is blaming him to save his donkey

Yeah, when the entire police department is against you and gives examples of how protocol clearly wasn't followed, I'm guessing you're a screwed cop.

Nonsense. That's like saying an a person died of old age,

No, read the autopsy report. Chauvin crushed his neck, but given his health crisis, it wouldn’t have been long before he died or at the very least be admitted to the hospital in serious condition and again, this is going by the autopsy report. The guy was a deadman walking essentially, it’s just this cop aided in the process sadly.

If Floyd had died later on because of drugs or health problems that would have been on him but he was killed by the cop and that's on him.

I get it, but that still doesn’t change Floyd’s medical prognosis.

So if a cop kills an old man, you can't say he was going to die soon anyway. 

Oh, yes you can if he had the levels of drugs and meth in his system like Floyd, especially if he were elderly.

Even the police chief spoke against the killer cop.

Yeah, we all do, but that’s an entirely different story.

Floyd was killed by the knee of the cop

Yes

and not by his own hands of drugs and health problems.

Not true, read the report. It’s amazing that he didn’t die on that day before the incident, that’s how bad in a physical position he was.

The autopsy states that.

 A. Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe

   B. Hypertensive heart disease

     1. Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular

        dilatation

     2. Clinical history of hypertension

   C. Left pelvic tumor (incidental, see microscopic description)

 Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

     1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL

     2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL

     3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL

     4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL

     5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL;

        Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

     6. Cotinine positive

     7. Caffeine positive

   B. Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol,

     isopropanol, or acetone

   C. Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids,

     amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite

   D. Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

-Hennepin County medical report.

Again, you are wrong, Chauvin killed him, that’s not disputable, BUT, the medical facts were, this guy was a ticking time bomb, he was a big guy and strong guy, but the average person would have succumbed to all of this, it’s amazing that he was still walking before the incident.

You can't excuse killing a person

I’m not, never ever did, don’t put words in my mouth. But I’m not going to just pile on with the rest of the media and excuse or deflect from his medical facts. That would be irresponsible and dishonest and we all know the media has their own agenda especially on this issue.

The autopsy states that.

That is not what the autopsy report states. That is you editorializing. There are no autopsy reports saying George Floyd died because of heart disease or any other illness.

Nope. Many years ago I paid for an item in a store with a fresh, crisp $20 received just minutes before from my bank's ATM. The clerk in the store refused to accept it, saying it was counterfeit. I explained to her it was fresh out of an ATM and she adamantly refused to accept it. But here is the difference. I'm white. She handed the bill back to me suggesting I take it back to the bank. She took an older $20 in payment and that was the end of it.

No, the difference is that you agreed to pay with another $20 bill.

No one is making excuses for the cop, it is what it is and as bad and tragic as Floyd’s killing was, the left is not going to control the narrative that Floyd had no hand in this, there is no justification on a personal level of what Chauvin did, every single person agrees on that point, but to dismiss how this man abused his body didn’t help

That is you editorializing.

No that is what the report says, I didn’t write it up, the Coroner did.

There are no autopsy reports saying George Floyd died because of heart disease or any other illness.

No one is saying that, but given the level of drugs and severe clogged arteries and heart disease, this guy was a ticking time bomb, don’t conflate the two.

the left is not going to control the narrative that Floyd had no hand in this,

The "left" absolutely will. It doesn't matter how I'll he was had Chauvin not sat on his neck for 9 minutes, he wouldn't have died. That is murder. His addictions and health problems are irrelevant.

No that is what the report says, I didn’t write it up, the Coroner did.

The coroner noted the chemicals in his system, but didn't say they killed him. The cause of death is listed as homicide.

No one is saying that, but given the level of drugs and severe clogged arteries and heart disease, this guy was a ticking time bomb, don’t conflate the two.

That is exactly what you are saying. You said it right above and now you're writing it here. It's not "Chauvin's fault, he was a ticking time bomb."

No one is saying that, but given the level of drugs and severe clogged arteries and heart disease, this guy was a ticking time bomb, don’t conflate the two.

So if you have a disease, I'm allowed to murder you, because you would have died eventually? Am I understanding you right?