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It is a small storm by Okinawa standards. However due to the substandard American Construction codes there will be a lot of damage. Profit is more important than safety. The wind will be oh 120 km per hour? Rather pathetic if you think about it.

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." However due to the substandard American Construction codes there will be a lot of damage."

Yuri: Not quite on target. A standard home built in Florida now has to meet stricter building codes than the past . Most of the homes that still suffer extensive damage in these cases are inexpensive mobile homes and trailer type homes built before the new rules.

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What gives?

Expecting the Christian conservatives to say this hurricane is "a test of their strength, true character and resolve under very difficult and trying conditions."

But if a hurricane was barrelling for the Democratic party convention then, you know, it would be -- they asked for it and it's punishment by tempting and disappointing God and with their unholy ways and pushing gay marriage, and all that liberal agenda stuff.

It's hugely funny how religious 'conviction' is little more than biased personal opinion wrapped up as 'fact.'

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Fact is, if you use the logic of some Christian conservatives - the ones who said the earthquakes in Haiti and flooding in New Orleans were God's punishment for 'sin' - then clearly God is punishing Republicans for their evil ways.

Seems like religion is little more than an excuse for intellectual laziness

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@Sushi

Why all the hate?

Seems like religion is little more than an excuse for intellectual laziness

I keep forgetting, liberals know without a doubt that there is absolutely NO such thing as a God and that it is a figment of one's imagination, since liberals know everything, have died and come back to assure us that there isn't a higher power. All conservatives are intellectually lazy, that could be why Romney is such a business powerhouse, but wait, Obama is a religious man too! But then again for him, he's a minuscule exception.

Latest report, the storm is passing Florida and it looks like all systems are a go!

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Paul in USA still any storm landing in America will do a lot of damage. Am hoping it will head to my location. The lack of rain here is painful. Americans need to make their homes out of concrete and steel like in Okinawa.

About the Republicans, like yawn!! A one day delay will not improve it. Oh do not plan on watching the democrats.

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Bass - "Why all the hate? "

Hmmm..it's not surprising you've got the argument backwards again.

Christian conservatives have - actually - been spouting the stuff I mentioned. The hate is coming from the Christian conservatives - the ones who supposedly worship a god of love.

I'm simply responding.

If Christian conservatives didn't spout such unprovable opinions, people like me wouldn't feel any need at all to refute them - that would be great!

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@Sushi

No, I can tell you are mocking Christians and the Christian faith. I don't have anything backwards, it's just you DON'T want to see or even acknowledge that Liberals can be racially intolerant, but they are, oh, how they are.

Christian conservatives have - actually - been spouting the stuff I mentioned. The hate is coming from the Christian conservatives - the ones who supposedly worship a god of love.

Then how about this, the vitriol that is coming out of liberal mouths as well as their actions is coming from liberal atheists, which to a large degree and their hatred war against Christians outwardly despicable, where is your outrage about that or do you approve of this?

If Christian conservatives didn't spout such unprovable opinions, people like me wouldn't feel any need at all to refute them - that would be great!

Unprovable? How would you know? How could you know? You can refute all you want. it doesn't mean that your opinions are locked in facts.

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Bass - "No, I can tell you are mocking Christians and the Christian faith. I don't have anything backwards, it's just you DON'T want to see or even acknowledge that Liberals can be racially intolerant, but they are, oh, how they are."

Nice switch but it failed - we're not talking about race here.

Bass - "Then how about this, the vitriol that is coming out of liberal mouths as well as their actions is coming from liberal atheists, which to a large degree and their hatred war against Christians outwardly despicable, where is your outrage about that or do you approve of this?"

I'm a former Christian. Bass, what you need to understand is that Atheism is more a reponse than a worldview. If Christians didn't spout their unproveable ideas and opinions, Atheists would have nothing to say.

Hence no 'vitriol.' It starts with religious people, in this case Christians.

That would be wonderful, imo.

Bass - "Unprovable? How would you know? How could you know? You can refute all you want. it doesn't mean that your opinions are locked in facts."

I don't, and I'm more than happy to admit that.

What Christians do, imo, is dress up thoughts and opinions as 'fact', and then try to push it on to others. (not all Christians do this, obviously.)

The key here is that again and in this case - Christians speak first - and in this case, it is their responsibility to prove that (for example) - sin was behind the Haitian earthquakes.

I could just as easily say that conservatives' 'sin' is behind the hurricane headed for Tampa. Someone else could say it's because of homosexuality. Someone else will say it's because we "worship" money. I've even read U.S. Christians claim that God is being "kinder" on the northern states like Maine, etc. than he is on the southern states that got whacked up tornadoes and wildfires recently.

Christians say all these types of things - which shows they are ALL simply guessing.

No one knows or has a clue.

The difference, as I pointed out before, is that Christians tend to dress up opinion as 'fact.'

It's up to them to prove their wild claims before they start demadning Atheists DIS-prove them.

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Christian conservatives have - actually - been spouting the stuff I mentioned. The hate is coming from the Christian conservatives - the ones who supposedly worship a god of love.

Some conservatives, fundamentalists, and preachers should definitely be concerned that Isaac is a form of divine retribution in the same way that Hurricane Katrina was God's way of punishing New Orleans for it's sin. Evangelical thinkers and leaders absolutely need to restore sanity and take corrective action to free their faith from these types of damaging remarks. It's equally unfair to tarnish the hearts of the 70, 80, or even 90 million + evangelicals in America with the heinous demonically-inspired sentiments of a few Republicans and their allies. Talk about lazy.

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@global

I'm a former Christian. Bass, what you need to understand is that Atheism is more a reponse than a worldview. If Christians didn't spout their unproveable ideas and opinions, Atheists would have nothing to say.

As you said, In your HO.

Atheism is a response to what? Atheists always try to prove that God doesn't exist, but they cannot prove or disprove, because if they cannot rationalize or explain it, Scientists will always say there is an explanation, but it doesn't have anything to do with a higher power (because to them it cannot be explained) All I am saying is, no one can say for certainty if there is a higher power, but for many religious believers, they would rather side on the caution that there very well may be. Until proven otherwise.

What Christians do, imo, is dress up thoughts and opinions as 'fact', and then try to push it on to others. (not all Christians do this, obviously.)

The same goes for liberals that want to stifle Christian beliefs, true is of the opposite.

The key here is that again and in this case - Christians speak first - and in this case, it is their responsibility to prove that (for example) - sin was behind the Haitian earthquakes.

SOME Christians would say and believe that and it was mostly the fringe extreme Christian groups that would say that, again, nice trick, but lumping all Christians to that is totally irresponsible on your or anyone else's part that thinks so.

The difference, as I pointed out before, is that Christians tend to dress up opinion as 'fact.'

As do liberals, as do liberals too and especially recently, the barrage of attacks on Conservatives throwing out statements that are not even close to being the truth about Romney or Ryan

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@global

But seriously, you liberals love to hash it out, always think that you are right and everyone else that disagrees with you, but you guys can't take the heat.

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Please tone down your language and do not bicker with other readers.

<<@global

Now you see what I have to deal with when reading your daily posts. Welcome to my world.

Hello, bass. What are you talking about? Do not get too serious. You will be okay, I will be okay and eveyone else will be okay :) Life is good:).

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I am not serious, don't have to be. I'm fine, I sitting in the park on my iPad writing and enjoying my Starbucks. Yes, life is good!

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Ominous, perhaps?

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bass4funk: "But seriously, you liberals love to hash it out, always think that you are right and everyone else that disagrees with you, but you guys can't take the heat."

BS, and you know it. With the lies and vitriol that come with Republican campaign ads ("Obama will steal your babies!"), when a little bit of that comes back to them they cry foul and whine about how inappropriate this or that statement or ad is. You're being hypocritical, and that's all there is to it.

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Anyone check the debt clock lately? Of course, its not Obama's fault -- nothing seems to be his fault. I wish the posters would stop whining about things that don't matter -- America is going to hell in a handbasket -- a real (painful) change is needed, not just empty words and pandering to groups to get elected. If you were a CEO and after four years you could not turn a company around and in fact you made matters worse, blaming your predecessor is not going help you keep your job....

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@Tatanka

This is my whole point of the argument. It doesn't matter what you say or do, it is never Obama's fault, never and the hypocrisy of some of the people here that never want to acknowledge that fact is utterly astounding. You will see a diatribe and a vitriol hurled at Bush on a daily basis, even though the man has been out of office for 4 years now. But liberals don't want to talk about Obama's list of failures, they just want to focus on the failures of either Bush or Romney's tax records or Ryans healthcare plan.

Problem is, why NO ONE is talking about the economy? With a 8.3% unemployment record, borrowing 60 cents on the dollar, wasteful spending that is off the charts, you would think that would need a little bit taking care of.

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Bass - "This is my whole point of the argument. It doesn't matter what you say or do, it is never Obama's fault.."

Bass, Bass, Bass....calm down. Take a deep breath.

Bush isn't going to be at the RNC convention.

Not even as a speaker.

Barely any Republican would be seen dead sharing a podium with the former president.

Conservatives who are awake know full well - and acknowledge - that national debt skyrocketed and the economy tanked on bush's watch.

bush handed Obama an employment rate of 10.3%.

Now, it's dropped 2% but folks like you still scream and gnash their teeth.

Mate, place blame where it's due.

"Problem is, why NO ONE is talking about the economy?"

Probably partly because your conservative friends keep on putting their boots in their mouths by bringing up barely relevant social issues.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's economic record.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's social record - the one that is turning away women in droves.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's immigration record - the one that has Latinos en masse in the Democrat camp.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's record of strengthening the middle class - even though Mitt once said, "We Republicans believe it is essential that we maintain both the forward momentum of economic growth and the strength of the safety net beneath those in society who need help."

Smart conservatives know Mitt can't even run on his greatest achievement - his healthcare plan.

Smart conservatives now realize Mitt doesn't even want to promote his business background.

So, what's left?

F-E-A-R and L-I-E-S - the GOP's most potent weapon.

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Romney/Ryan - 'America's Tax Evasion Team' or maybe 'America's Offshore The Jobs Team'?

Take away the lies, hatred and minority-bashing from GOP politics and there'd be absolutely nothing left.

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No matter, no one watches the conventions anymore anyway. Its just one big waste of time.

But no doubt it is Gods will to punish the republicans with a hurricane for the shameless lies they use daily. Like the birther farce that Romney McBain now seems to support.

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Funny how Romney continually fails to mention that in America's hour of greatest need after the Bush-Republican Recession of 2008, it's been largely due to the LACK of cooperation by the Republicans who've been trying to make the president fail and who cared nought about the suffering American people that recovery has been so slow.

Funny also how Ann Coulter said, “if we nominate Mitt, we’ll lose.”

President Barack HUSSEIN Obama isn't perfect but he's lightyears better than the joke candidates the GOP have thrown to the lions this time.

Mitt could do himself a favor by doing some community organizing himself, but sadly, the only community he gets down with are the 1% Elitists who want to buy the election.

Also hugely funny to read that Mitt was at his holiday house (most Americans have these...) yesterday practicing his convention speech using one of those evil Liberal TELEPROMPTERS! 

You know, the same fascist devices the president uses when - unlike his conservative detractors - he can't memorize a 5,000 word speech word for word....

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This storm must be a sign from god to the republicans :p

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Why are we bothering wasting money on this election at all? Romney has already lost, but at least he is going to be spending time relaxing in the company of other failed Republican presidents.

November can't come soon enough. :-).

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Bush, Katrina 2005, McCain 2008, "party officials scrambled to make sure candidate Mitt Romney’s message to voters would not be blown off course."

The press in America no longer even makes any pretense to objectivity. All in for Obama !

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Take away the lies, hatred and minority-bashing from GOP politics and there'd be absolutely nothing left.

Sushi/sake3. Do you actually know anything of modern US politics ?

Mia Love is the Fourth District GOP congressional candidate from Utah. She is slated to address the Republican convention. She is a conservative woman, who happens to be African American. Bobby Jindal is the Republican governor of Louisiana state, also in the south.He is of East Indian ancestry. In nearby South Carolina they have female governor, also a Republican, by the name of Nimrata "Nikki" Randhawa Haley. "Minority-bashing" ?????

You want hatred? Let's see what sort of violence the Occupy and Anonymous "activists" try and bring to Tampa.

Also, I don't understand why slurs from posters like zurcronium are allowed to stand here. Romney is "McMormon" ?

If it is the social advance of "minorities" - in race, creed and sexual orientation - that liberals and progressives supposedly champion why is Romney's religious affiliation any less deserving of respect than that of Democrats like Keith Ellison ( the first Moslem from predominantly Lutheran and Catholic Minnesota to be elected to the House...)? I know many American Democrats proud that the first Catholic to overcome the well known WASP bias against a Catholic in the WH was John F Kennedy. Why is OK to make an issue or make slurs about of Romney's Mormonism ? Is Sen. Harry Reid's Mormonism problematic for you ???

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But if a hurricane was barrelling for the Democratic party convention then, you know, it would be -- they asked for it and it's punishment by tempting and disappointing God and with their unholy ways and pushing gay marriage, and all that liberal agenda stuff.

Sushi,

Your three days late. Current TV ......Al Gore's network with the liberal agenda already has used this lame premise.

Current TV's David Shuster jokes with Stephanie about heading to Tampa for the Republican National Convention and God saying to him, "you've been pretty good..(but) I am going to smite the GOP like there is no tomorrow."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/24/david_shuster_jokes_about_god_smiting_the_gop_convention.html

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Sail - "Current TV's David Shuster jokes...."

And that's the whole point. These guys aren't stupid enough to buy it.

On the other hands there's way too many conservative evangelicals who actually believe in the notion of "God's wrath."

But the giveaway is this - "God's wrath" is never directed at the Christian evangelicals - it's always directed - or intended for - the people they don't really like.

Now with a hurricane heading for their convention in Tampa, not only is it screwing up GOP plans, but it's also underlining the shameless lie the "God's wrath" argument always has been. 

Because if God loves his people so much, why is he sending a hurricane to crash their party?

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Hurricanes in Florida, Earthquakes in California. Yahweh and his WMD, eh? Mitt's a successful businessman - surely he can see a market for magic underwear here?

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@Sushi

Bass, Bass, Bass....calm down. Take a deep breath.

I was never excited to begin with. I leave that to frustrated Dems and liberals

Bush isn't going to be at the RNC convention.

Too bad.

Not even as a speaker.

Shucks!

Barely any Republican would be seen dead sharing a podium with the former president.

Hmmm, given the current climate, I'm not so sure about that, looking on hindsight. By the way, is that all you can talk about is Bush? I'll bet you, in 10 years from now, you still wouldn't blame Obama for anything.

Conservatives who are awake know full well - and acknowledge - that national debt skyrocketed and the economy tanked on bush's watch.

Still waiting for you to address Obama's triple times outspending Bush, so where is your outrage? Why aren't you scolding Obama?

bush handed Obama an employment rate of 10.3%.

...and Obama in 4 years after wasting tax payer stimulus money still the unemployment went up and is still rising and at current 8.3% 4 years!! compare that to Bush having 4.7% for more than 6 years

Now, it's dropped 2% but folks like you still scream and gnash their teeth.

What??? You are joking, right?

Mate, place blame where it's due.

Oh, I sure do, on BOTH Presidents! For Bush starting it and Obama NOT fixing it as the Commander in chief!

"Problem is, why NO ONE is talking about the economy?"

Probably partly because your conservative friends keep on putting their boots in their mouths by bringing up barely relevant social issues.

That's your excuse? How about Obama's failed policies and back to the 8.3 unemployment rate and out of control spending and compare that to Bush and Romney, if I were Obama, I too, would try to change the subject and quickly!!!

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's economic record.

Up until the last year of the Bush Presidency, yes, they could.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's social record - the one that is turning away women in droves.

I always hear that from the party of entitlements and taking other people's money and having a giant out of control government apparatus.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's immigration record - the one that has Latinos en masse in the Democrat camp.

Since Reagan, NONE of the Presidents did, NONE, Republican or Democrat. But Blacks and latinos are against Gay marriage, a huge setback for liberals.

Smart conservatives know the GOP can't run on it's record of strengthening the middle class - even though Mitt once said, "We Republicans believe it is essential that we maintain both the forward momentum of economic growth and the strength of the safety net beneath those in society who need help."

I have two words: Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, need I say more?

Smart conservatives know Mitt can't even run on his greatest achievement - his healthcare plan.

Obama did and we are all going to pay for it, BIG TIME, but the Repubs can keep it in the house and starve the bill, which they promised to do.

Smart conservatives now realize Mitt doesn't even want to promote his business background.

Stop reading, "Think Progress."

So, what's left?

The people are going to decide, that's what.

F-E-A-R and L-I-E-S - the GOP's most potent weapon.

I'll tell you what, all politicians lie to a certain point, ALL OF THEM! Be it Blue or Red, conservative or liberal, if you think, Obama is above that, then I really don't know what else to say to you.

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Hurricanes in Florida, Earthquakes in California. Yahweh and his WMD, eh? Mitt's a successful businessman - surely he can see a market for magic underwear here?

Would you mock Jews or Moslems or Bahai or Buddhists for their customs, beliefs, perceived economic success or lack thereof?

Why are so-called progressives so full of contempt and hatred for religious Americans ?

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Now with a hurricane heading for their convention in Tampa, not only is it screwing up GOP plans, but it's also underlining the shameless lie the "God's wrath" argument always has been.

If you honestly believe that if a hurricane was barreling down on the good folks of Charlotte North Carolina and the Rrepublicans would declare it was God's wrath for North Carolina hosting the Democratic convention and not care for the AMERICAN citizens in the area who would bear the brunt of the mother natures wrath.......You have much more serious issues than I thought.

Gov. Jindal is staying in his state and missing the Republican convention as his duty and doing right by the citizens that he leads as Isaac is tracking towards his state. I would hope he also has Democratic support for doing that, just as any AMERICAN would for the people of North Carolina if the situation were reversed right now.

Using a natural disaster as something conservatives would actually cheer lead.......Pathetic Sushi that is really the only way to describe that.

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Sail, I’m not making these claims.

It’s been American conservatives – in particular Christian evangelicals – who have made these patently outrageous claims at times when natural disasters have hit groups of people they don’t like.

Those same people think it’s their right to make this type of ludicrous claim against others, but when the same claims are fired back at them and their own, I think replies like yours would not be deemed untypical, and you are right – they are “pathetic.”

Sail – “Using a natural disaster as something conservatives would actually cheer lead.......Pathetic.”

Um..they have – well, not cheerlead, but conservatives have claimed that God’s wrath was behind hurricane Katrina and the Haiti earthquakes.

How do you explain that?

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Instead of this in the Obama tank Media garbage reporting that is in this article regarding Isaac. Bush-McCain as if they have anything at all to do with this in 2012 and the Tampa convention.

It is a quandary the Republicans also faced in 2008, when they chose to delay their convention in St Paul, Minnesota. That year, Hurricane Gustav hit the Louisiana coast as the convention was set to nominate Arizona Senator John McCain as the Republican presidential nominee.

At the time, the party was still reeling from criticism of Republican President George W. Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina, which devastated New Orleans in 2005. New Orleans is now threatened by Isaac’s projected path.

They could have actually went with some real class that would have also given President Obama some real well deserved credit on this situation with Isaac and his concern for the safety of Americans no matter what political party or outlook. From the Daily Kos no less.

Following the briefing, the President spoke with Florida Governor Rick Scott to make clear that the Administration, through FEMA, would continue to make resources available as necessary to support the state as the Governor’s team prepares for and responds to the storm. The President told the Governor the people of Florida are in his thoughts during this time. The President also told the governor to let him know if there are any unmet needs or additional resources the Administration could provide, including in support of efforts to ensure the safety of those visiting the state for the Republican National Convention.

Thank you Mr. President for your efforts.

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There's a man in the White House that adopted the malevolent and resentful anti-colonial leftism of his father, who believes the US is an injust and immoral country that must be brought to its knees or otherwise economically destroyed in anyway possible. The American dream is becoming the American nightmare and this guy is doing it on purpose while people are talking about Pat Robertson and John Hagee. Of all the states that had a run-in with Katrina, evangelical stronghold Mississippi was by far the hardest hit. New Orleans only suffered subsequently because the levees broke. Unbelieveable.

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. The American dream is becoming the American nightmare and this guy is doing it on purpose while people are talking about Pat Robertson and John Hagee.

Its what Obama is best at. He divides people.

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@Miezaru Your jaw-droppingly idiotic parallel of a debate which rests on scientific data and can be supported as such with a belief that Yahweh sends his winds and rain to punish wrongdoin' is beyond the pale. Perhaps I can put forward my belief that this is Thor's wrath for being portrayed so badly in the Avengers movie. That my friend is a 'rational' parallel.

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@Miezaru Your jaw-droppingly idiotic parallel of a debate which rests on scientific data and can be supported as such with a belief that Yahweh sends his winds and rain to punish wrongdoin' is beyond the pale. Perhaps I can put forward my belief that this is Thor's wrath for being portrayed so badly in the Avengers movie. That my friend is a 'rational' parallel.

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To back up my point, here’s some more conservative U.S. Christian guesses wrapped up as ‘fact,’ this about the Colorado wildfires.

"God is obviously punishing certain areas and certain parts of the country with these natural disasters. That's why so many tornadoes hit Texas and so many hurricanes hit the southeastern states. We have to look to see which areas of the US don't suffer such disasters (or at least, not as often as others). The northeastern states, from New England down to the DC area, seem the safest. God is clearly pleased with them and is protecting them.”

For more laughs,

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/women/2012/07/god-wrath-and-natural-disasters-who-do-we-blame.html

You just can’t make this stuff up.

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chill, jimizo:

"God is in control."

Barack Obama, August 2012
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Sail - "Thank you Mr. President for your efforts."

Interesting comment.

Why?

President Obama is offering to orchestrate the vast resources of "Big Government", the same "Big Government" the conservative types are so adamant needs to be slashed in size.

I guess to some on the Right, "Big Government" is "bad" - until they need it.

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Lizz - "There's a man in the White House that adopted the malevolent and resentful anti-colonial leftism of his father, who believes the US is an injust and immoral country that must be brought to its knees or otherwise."

LOLOLOLOL!!!

President Obama barely knew his father. He was born in 1961, his parents divorced when he was 2, and his father returned to Kenya in 1965.

That would have given the young Barack until he was 4 to adopt the “malevolent and resentful anti-colonial leftism of his father.”

Ha ha ha! Priceless! :-)

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Miezaru_Te – “Its what Obama is best at. He divides people.”

You’re right. He’s doing his best to keep sane, rational, Americans – and the rest of us safe from the threats, hatred and warped religion-based policy ideas of the U.S. conservative movement.

As Sailwind said, thank you Mr. President for your efforts.

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That would have given the young Barack until he was 4 to adopt the “malevolent and resentful anti-colonial leftism of his father.”

Did you read the book "Dreams From My Father"? We are today living out the script for America and the world that was dreamt up not by Obama but by Obama’s father. How do I know this? Because Obama says so himself.

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threats,hatred and warped religion-based policy ideas of the U.S. conservative movement.

What a bunch of unmitigated hogwash. Threats? Hatred? warped religion -based policy ideas? Good grief this crass name calling is what you actually call an intelligent defense of liberal political viewpoints.

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God is in control President Obama's religious beliefs are also preposterous. @Lizz Thanks for the honesty - thumbs up. I wish more conservatives here had your candour.

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"make sure candidate Mitt Romney's message to voters would not be blown off course"

Hee hee!

"the weak U.S. economy"

When are these people ever going to learn? It's going to take most of President Obama's two terms to fix the mess left by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

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So the Republicans are getting rained on their party?? Tisk, tisk, tisk! Poor Rush Limbaugh, will have to come up with some funny one liners to try and blame this on Mr. Obama, on liberals, on the Democrats etc..good luck ditto heads!

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Sailwind - "hogwash. Threats? Hatred? warped religion -based policy ideas? Good grief this crass name calling is what you actually call an intelligent defense of liberal political viewpoints."

Threats: Mitt and co. threatening that America will become a "Socialist" state when most don't even know the meaning of the world.

Hatred? Against gays, lesbians, Global Liberals, Europeans, the poor, you name it.

Religion-based policy ideas?  Yes. For abortion, euthanasia, marriage, church-state, bush's Faith Based policies......you name it.

Sail, as an American, I'm very surprised you don't seem aware of this

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Easy to blame Mr.Obama and the Democrats, when all the filthy rich greedy bastards in power of the US economy (REPUBLICANS) are doing everything under the sun to sabotage every good deed Mr.Obama and his administration have tried to do to IMPROVE the US economy!

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We as Americans are our own worse enemy. When you look at the turn out on Election Day and the numbers are so low. It is sinful here in America when you think that there are country’s that do not even hold elections. If people would just real our Constitution, they would really understand that the President of the United States has a very small amount of power. If real change is to happen in America, it is not by replacing the President, but voting out the Senators and Congressman that have been in office for so long and they are responsible for the mess that this country is in. They only do what will get them reelected and the hell with doing what is best for America. Wake up America……..

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"'We've got a great convention ahead," Romney said from New Hampshire as he headed into a high school auditorium Monday morning to rehearse his convention speech,..."

"Party Chairman Reince Preibus, for his part, insisted the GOP can "have a great week" despite the storm bearing down on the Gulf Coast.

But Sally Bradshaw, a Florida Republican and longtime senior aide to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, was not so sanguine. "It's a mess all around and it's fraught with risk," she said. "It's not good for anybody – particularly the people impacted by the storm."

Hmmm....the images might come out bad here - the convention attendees dancing and partying the nights away as the storm heads toward the gulf – almost exactly seven years after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans.

But - hey - that would be totally reflective of the GOP/TP's actions ever since ex-community organizer Barack HUSSEIN Obama was elected president: they've ignored their nation, been derelict in their duties and danced while their own people suffered.

The DO-NOTHING GOP/TP.

Payback is heading their way.

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@the Doc

Can't argue with you there. You have more common sense then a lot of people here. If only more people were as rational as you. I agree.

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@Sushi

"hogwash. Threats? Hatred? warped religion -based policy ideas? Good grief this crass name calling is what you actually call an intelligent defense of liberal political viewpoints."

You really think so?

Threats: Mitt and co. threatening that America will become a "Socialist" state when most don't even know the meaning of the world.

So the Republicans throwing granny off a cliff isn't a threat or a scare tactic? Trust me, most Americans DO KNOW what the word means, much to the bewilderment of many liberals.

Hatred? Against gays, lesbians, Global Liberals, Europeans, the poor, you name it.

Liberals are really good in this department. Anything towards religion in particular Christianity, most Blacks and Latinos are socially Conservative and are heavily against a strong family unit and belief in the sanctum of marriage, hating anything with the words Conservative of traditional attached forcing Americans to adopt failed and failing European Entitlement programs, hatred for and towards people that are successful, if you are wealthy that is a very bad thing. You don't deserve it or like Obama said, "you didn't build that on your own" or anyone that disagrees with their personal viewpoint.

Religion-based policy ideas? Yes. For abortion, euthanasia, marriage, church-state, bush's Faith Based policies......you name it.

Why should the state decide what care I can get of if my loved one has to die. If I want that, I would move to Belgium, if you value life, just your opinion of it and saying it to a liberal is seen as a threat, taking the baton and running with it and labeling all conservatives that think as a collective unit. Obama was against same sex marriage and was conservative on the issue and now, he flip flopped and is all of a sudden for the gays?? How timely.

Liberal desperation and hysteria at its worst!

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Why are so-called progressives so full of contempt and hatred for religious Americans ?

We believe in Separation of Church and State guaranteed under the Amend.#1.

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We believe in Separation of Church and State guaranteed under the Amend.#1.

Most Conservatives believe the same thing

But Liberals hate FREE speech unless it falls along their belief system. Like I said, if you are a Christian liberal, you get a pass, if you are a Conservative Christian, then the rules change. Progressives totally lost track of what the word tolerance means.

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bass, then leave all weathr and God talks out. Weather and God have nothing to do with RNC.

This week isn't just the Republican National Convention .Rather, this is also the biggest fundraising GOP Campaign in US history that has been bought out by the Riches. And there is nothing the Middle Class Americans can do to stop it as we do not have money as well as the Riches.

But one thing what we can do is this; when we are knocked down, we get up. There is NO quit for the Middle Class Americans. That's what we would like to see.and that's what we deserve. And that will be done.

To all American middle-class voters on JT, this is time for us to get up and start working until November 6th!! We can do it!

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Can think of so many more pleasant things to do than watch either political convention. Like scrub the toilets, shovel cow manure, etc. It will be at best a back patting exercise. It is as planned as a movie and both parties conventions promise to be very BORING! I can not vote so why should I care what they say? The news on the tropical storm is much more interesting and will affect my life. The more west the storm moves before turning north the better.

As for giving them money, I would be better off giving it to my dead ancestors. At least it will not be spent on fat dogs, flying their jets and living in Mc mansions.

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@Yuri

I understand for you it could be boring as you cannot vote, but for me as an American and most voting Americans it is to an extent important to see the candidates talk about the issues as to how they would handle them, in short, they are trying to sell themselves and as a voter before I make that sale, I want to know what they have to offer. Don't flaunt the rich for having money, of course they are trying to raise a lot of money to defeat Obama and vice versa. The Obama campaign has the liberal wealthy Hollywood crowd to back them, including Jefferey Immelt and Georg Soros, which will amount to almost a billion dollars. Obama wants a second term, make no mistake, this is NOT a shoe in, this is a very, very close election, it could go either way. People have to decide if we want to incur more debt, more wasteful spending, higher taxes, rising unemployment and to have a more bigger and larger government that frowns on success and or if they want a President that has a history of proven business success and values working Americans and the capitalist FREE market system focuses on the economy and smaller government. The people have to decide which President would be the best to tackle all these issues.

@global

No one was talking about God and the weather and by the way, if Christians want to pray or thank God, there is nothing wrong with that. People can believe what they want. Atheism is a belief, and if you believe in that way, it is everyone's personal choice.

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Atheism is a belief, and if you believe in that way, it is everyone's personal choice.

The 2012 election is a "CHOICE: election.

I believe in Separation of Church and State trying to be fair for everyone regardless of race, color, religion, culture, age and sex while I am a church goer over 50 years.

Blessing you with a spirit of Book of Matthew 5 .

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bass4funk, my guy who can vote here in Oklahoma says his vote is meaningless. This state will vote for the Republican and it matters not how or if he even bothers to vote. He will vote for Romney since he like me is prolife.

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bass4funk, my guy who can vote here in Oklahoma says his vote is meaningless. This state will vote for the Republican and it matters not how or if he even bothers to vote. He will vote for Romney since he like me is prolife.

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Yuri, evey vote counts-of the people, for the people and by the people. I encourage everyone to vote.

Just think about these people who are oppressed in African counry. These poor people have no rights to vote. Women in Afganisan have no righ to vote. We can do better than that.

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@global

The 2012 election is a "CHOICE: election.

I believe in Separation of Church and State trying to be fair for everyone regardless of race, color, religion, culture, age and sex while I am a church goer over 50 years.

Blessing you with a spirit of Book of Matthew 5 .

Then we both agree on something for a change.

@Yuri

Every vote counts, always, every single one. Again, this is one of those occasions where (I can't believe this) I have to agree 100% with Global.

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