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© Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Trudeau apologizes for recognition of Nazi unit war veteran in Canadian Parliament
By ROB GILLIES TORONTO©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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It's Canada, which is now irrelevant in the world, so a clown show is to be expected.
Antiquesaving
This incident now clarifies my suspicions that the vast majority hasn't a clues about history, facts and what is really going on!
Here is what was said:
I heard this I didn't even have to wait for anyone to say something was wrong.
I watched as the entire parliament including opposition leaders and MPs get up and give a starting observation.
The following word combined should have kept anyone with a brain seated.
the only people fighting the USSR/Russia during the second world war were with the axis Fascist/Nazis and a child in primary school should have known that!
The combination of those words should have made Rota and every member of parliament's ears burn and sent up red flags.
But the ignorance the propaganda machine, the rewriting of history going on today was clearly visible for the world to see.
Antiquesaving
How were they misled?
If someone tells you that they fought against the British in WW2 do you think "oh they are war heroes"?
Do you think they were on the allies side?
If they say they fought against the British, USA, Canada, Australia, the USSR, then anyone with half brain should have gotten the clue they were at a minimum on the axis side.
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@kintsugi
Yes they did. He was invited by the Speaker but vetted by the government.
Antiquesaving
Oh please what a load of hogwash!
What side he was on?
Are you seriously trying to make up excuses?
No one in Ukraine that was fighting the USSR in WW2 let me repeat that part IN WW2 was on the allies side!
Now stop your excuse making and look up the atrocities that the Galicia SS did to polish civilians not Russian soldiers not the Soviet Union polish civilians thousands of them they burned entire villages with women and children in them this was the regiment he was with and what the majority of ukrainians who joined the Nazis did you can make up all the excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that it was the Ukrainian SS it was the Ukrainian auxiliary police that rounded up civilians Poles Jews etc...
And no amount of whitewashing history by you or any other person here will change that fact.
I would have expected better from you I guess I was wrong!
Antiquesaving
For all those trying to make up excuses for:
1-) This full on ignorance of history
2-) justifying ukrainian SS actions
I wonder what Zelensky's grandfather would think of his grandson and the rest as well as those here making up excuses.
This man, his SS group were trying to kill Zelensky's grandfather who was fighting in the Soviet Army!
He was a "hero" not this Nazi or any other person that joined the SS!
Antiquesaving
Yes but in 1987 the government report on these guys used the excuse that Polish and East German evidence couldn't be trusted.
And since then and very recently again we are told Polish information can't be trusted!
Figure that one out, but it is simple Small ethnic Polish population in Canada and larger concentrated ethnic Ukraine population, take a guess at who the political parties care not to upset?
Part of the Galicia 14th SS responsible for massacres in Polish towns completely wiping out the entire civilian population including women and children.
Using an ultra pro Ukrainian news service?
Go find a Polish account, a Jewish news service
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huta_Pieniacka_massacre
Note that in 2017 the monument commemorating the massacre was blown up by Ukrainian nationalist.
A new monument was put in this place but with some slight changes there's no more mention that it was the ukrainians that massacred the Poles.
This is just one example.
Note these guys were not killing Russian soldiers but Ethnic Polish civilians.
You want more, well some Canadians decided to set the record straight.
http://espritdecorps.ca/history-feature/whitewashing-the-ss-the-attempt-to-re-write-the-history-of-hitlers-collaborators
Fully detailed and the history is factual.
Antiquesaving
BTW it wasn't the Russians it was Stalin and Beria incharge 2 Georgians and it wasn't just the Ukrainians but millions of Ethnic Russians, Tartars, and every ethnic group except Georgia that remained protected by Stalin and Beria.
But let's face it, saying a Georgian was responsible for the deaths in Ukraine wouldn't make a good story so it was the Russians, oh and the Jews don't forget that little thing OUN was quite clear on that one also.
But I guess you like many hear prefer the "new history" over the facts.
kintsugi
Did the Canadian government know the history and background of Yaroslav Hunka?
So, what was the Ukrainian Yaroslav Hunka doing during WWII?
"Historical accounts indicate that most Ukrainians who joined the First Ukrainian Division during World War II were not motivated by a desire to assist Hitler and the Nazis in conquest and genocide. Instead, these Ukrainians saw the division as an opportunity to resist Russian imperialism and try to establish an independent Ukrainian state free from Soviet domination."
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/09/25/did-canada-parliament-really-invite-nazi-yaroslav-hunka/
cleo
The USSR started off being on the side of the nazis and then switched sides. Easy to be confused as to whether and/or when they were goodies or baddies.
Ukraine in the 1930s had plenty of experience of just how bad it was to be under the USSR yoke; not surprising if some of them reasoned that, if they had to take sides, the nazis couldn't be any worse.
If in today's atmosphere a supposedly responsible lawmaker introduces a person as 'a war hero who fought for Ukraine', then most people in the moment would probably clap. But as they say, the devil is in the details.
There was no 'hate crime' here. Just a bunch of people being too trusting of one of their own, who should have known better. The Speaker of the House of Commons should have checked his facts before embarrassing himself and his fellows.
Did Yaroslav Hunka make it clear to the Speaker which side he was on in WW2?
cleo
For being misled?
cleo
The wrong side.
No. No excuses. I stated clearly that the Speaker of the House of Commons should have checked his facts before embarrassing himself. And the other members of the House should have been able to trust his judgement.
And Anthony Rota should have got his facts straight, should not have drawn attention to Hunka, should not have called him a hero.
I repeat, there was no hate crime here, just stupidity and gullibility.
No argument at all with you on that.
Remember that until 1941 half of Poland was under USSR control, complete with show elections, annexation, deportations, political murders and summary executions.
Saying that one side was bad doesn't mean that the other side were angels.
u_s__reamer
Every single clapping seal in the Canadian Parliament who stood up on cue once they heard "this Ukrainian man fought against Russia" should face hate crimes charges as well.
They have disgraced the memory of the brave Russians who died in Ukraine fighting against Ukrainian Nazis.
"Clapping seals" are ubiquitous, and the biggest country in the world is home to one of the largest populations of this robotic species. And the above cherry-picked history of WW2 needs some unpacking: don't forget those brave Ukrainians who fought against the Germans. In WW2 Ukrainians (including Jewish citizens) constituted the largest group of war dead among all the peoples of the Soviet Union (including Russians).
TaiwanIsNotChina
You keep saying this but understandably most non-apologists don't want to see the Canadian Parliament arrested for no reason. Come up with a better fantasy.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Russia did that by becoming the invaders in turn.