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© 2019 AFPTrudeau promises support for Ukraine in wake of Russian 'aggression'
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Norman Goodman
Unlike Canada with regards to Quebec, Ukraine is not giving the ethnic Russians in their eastern half the option of leaving Ukraine. Crimea is also majority ethnic Russians who obviously want to be a part of Russia.
If your wife wants to leave you is the obvious answer to beat her up and make her stay?
Dango bong
I like how he waits until after meeting Putin in Osaka to announce it. A real man
Kaerimashita
Russia must be quaking in its boots at JT support for Ukraine.
FizzBit
I’m very sure Volodymyr Zelensky does not agree with Trudeau’s “fake news” synopsis of past Ukrainian/ Russian events.
lincolnman
Justin Trudeau - stands up to Russia, supports human rights and dignity, shows courage and integrity...
Donald Trump: Yucks it up with Putin and jokes about its attack on America, hasn't uttered the word Ukraine or Crimea in two years in office, appeases other dictators...
The contrast is striking. One has courage and guts, the other acts like a poodle...Putin's poodle....
Madverts
"Agression" ? No need for quotes...
starpunk
Dirtbag Donnie has to lift sanctions on Russia because he's so obsessed with undoing Obama's legacy and Putin told him to.
Kit is very clear here who stands up for justice and democracy and who doesn't.
WilliB
Oh boy. Now clueless SWJ Trudeau wants to play warmonger. But the corporate media will give him a pass on that... they are too obsessed with bashing orange man.
Hello Kitty 321
@Starpunk
The Ukrainian regime was put in place as the result of a US-planned and financed armed coup against the democratically elected president, so it is not as 'very clear who stands up for justice and democracy' as you seem to indicate.
Satedaya
This guy just woke up?? Was it like 4 years ago??
Oh yeah I forgot there are many Ukrainians ancestors in Canada and he will need their votes in upcoming elections.
What a joke.
lostrune2
Tartars native of Crimea have it worse now
"Crimea: Russia's Dark Secret - A harrowing look at killings and kidnappings undertaken by Russia to scare off Crimea's Muslim Tatars"
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2018/12/crimea-russia-dark-secret-181212065810629.html
These are still just theories; it's yet not proven. Like Trump, everybody just keeps repeating it, so they think it's true
rlperez@hotmail.com.au
Where is Trudeau's support for the Palestinians against the Israeli land grab of Palestinians territories? Oh, that's right, Israel is a US outpost, so hands off.
Raw Beer
Exactly! This clown talks about "the illegal annexation of Crimea” but I am sure he has never said anything about Israel's illegal and brutal annexations.
Trudeau is an embarrassment. Pierre must be rolling in his grave...
Anyway, what can he do to help Ukraine's regime, said a few tugboats?
u_s__reamer
What's JT's cunning plan? To stop the Russian tanks by bogging them down in a sticky morass of Canadian maple syrup?
Asakaze
@Satedaya
Not usual ancestors. After WWII Canada sheltered many staunchest Nazi collaborators - members of 14th Ukrainian Waffen-SS division "Galicina", personnel of Ukrainian auxilliary polizei / anti-partisan units, notorious for their crimes against civilian populace. Canada became a heaven for such scum.
@lostrune2
Outstanding. You consider Al-Jazeera a reliable source, at the same time active and direct U.S. support for the Ukrainian coup is "just theories". What about videos / photos of Nuland and McCain in Kiev, actively encouraging the coup plotters? What about the pressure the U.S. piled on the ex-president Yanukovich to make him cede power?
Asakaze
How the U.S. decides who stays and who is out, the conversation between Nuland and the U.S. ambassador at Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k
Madverts
And I remember when fanatical Russian nationalists where claiming there were "no Russian troops invading Crimea" when even Sergey "komikal" Lavrov was starting to blush.....
WilliB
madverts
Alas, the propaganda narrative that you "remember" is not quite historically correct. I would hazard to guess that CNN forgot to telll you that the Crimea was traditionally Russian, until Chrushtshew gifted to on a drunken night to the Ukraine, that the population is overwhelmingly Russian, and the that only Russian black sea base is in the Crimea, which the Russian Federation could not possibly hand over to the corrupt, Clinton-supported gang that took over the Ukrain. Surprise, eh?
Asakaze
What this sugar boy is talking about? Crimea? In February 2014 the whole Ukrainian military group in Crimea - 20 thousand men under arms (army, navy, air force, border guards, state security units) did not fire a single shot, about 14 thousand immediately shed their Ukrainian uniforms and re-enlisted in the Russian forces.
Anyway, before croaking about mythical Russsian aggression the West should face justice for its real aggressions. Only after its leaders are brought to war crimes trial for Iraq and Libya the West (Canada included) should have any moral right to open its mouth.
Asakaze
The fact is that Russian troops saved the Crimean populace from the same madness and blootbath the neonazi plotters organized during the coup. The criminal coup the West actively encouraged and fully supported, though even now it tries to conceal it. "The liar of the decade award goes to....."
lostrune2
Ah, that Al Jazeera from Qatar, blockaded by Saudi Arabia for becoming closer to Iran, who is supported by Russia? If anything, Al Jazeera would be biased towards Russia to cozy themselves up with Iran.
Videos, photos, pressure, yes they're circumstantial evidence - but still circumstantial. Show us studies or investigative reports from peer-reviewed publications. We can't just make up our conclusions without actually doing in-depth studies. (For example, look at the assassination of JFK - everybody has their own conclusion about who killed him, but actually few people made in-depth studies beyond what they saw on TV or photos.)
starpunk
War crimes in Iraq, yes. Remember Abu Gharib?
As for Libya, the people rose up against Khadafy and his army was raping and gassing the rebels. He also was a terrormonger threat to Europe, Meditterrean, half of Africa. He was very dangerous and the Libyan rebels needed help. If NATO didn't step in, many more lives would've been lost, Libyan and foreign.
Asakaze
@lostrune2
Very unlikely. Qatar pushes its own agends, Al Jazeera is more close to radical moslem ideas. Anyway, the article you you provided link to was done without "actually doing in-depth studies" as you said are needed to make any serious conclusions. Just propaganda.
Very amusing. Then why Trudeau is saying about "Russian aggression" without any evidence at all? And much less evidence was enough for Theresa Mayday-Mayday to claim that the Salisbury hoax definitely was a Russian operation.
So, videos of foreign diplomats encouraging street riots in Kiev are not compelling evidence for you? Then how would the U.S. authorities react if, let's say, during the Ferguson riots there were videos of foreign diplomats encouraging the protesters, "down with the Obama dictatorship"?
@starpunk
Sure. But remember that during the Nuremberg trial the crimes of Auschwiz and Buchenwald were just a part of a bigger and more horrible picture. The invasion of Iraq is a crime itself.
And as the result of the NATO aggression much more lives were lost. Compare Libya before the aggression with the wreck of Libya now. Your attempts to excuse the NATO crime are deplorable.
lostrune2
Everybody has an agenda. Nobody has no agenda. The trick is to pick with the least bias either way towards a subject. Qatar has not much bias either way about Russia on this topic - they're not much for nor against Russia. That's the trick.
And it's a news report what native Crimean Tartars say, not a study. What were you expecting?
They can say whatever they want - doesn't mean to automatically believe them. Doesn't mean to automatically believe Russia's rebuttal neither. And if that happened in Ferguson, it's still just a theory until more studies come out.
Btw, everybody has a right to their own theories; I won't deny people that. But for another example, look at the question about extraterrestrial sentient life - there are tons and tons of circumstantial evidence of that. Some of those theories may still turn out right, but nobody has connected the dots.