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The outlook is Stormy.

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"It never happened, and she is violating her agreement never to disclose that thing that never happened."

And if that makes any sense, congrats: you are a Republican,

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Even better:

"It never happened, and she is violating her agreement that cost Trump 130k to never to disclose that thing that never happened."

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Stormy just filed defamation lawsuit. Stay tuned.

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Happened didn’t happen....yawn....who cares?

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Surprise! Team Trump (aka Trump and Cohen) are terrible at politics. They used the law as a weapon, used cease and desist for decades to bully weak contractors and poor people into submission.

Trump's cease-and-desist letters used to frighten - now they function as crypto-currency , conferring millions on their recipients.

"Immediately comply with this demand or else ... become one of the most famous people on earth!"

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Hey Stephanie Grisham...a news flash for you. Melania went on the View, on national television, to hurl that birther crap at the Obama family, including their two young daughters. She gave up any right to demand privacy for her son. What goes around, comes around.

Melania needs to be reminded that there was a child involved. It was Stormy's child and one of Trump's goons threatened the baby.

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@bas4 Happened didn’t happen....yawn....who cares?

Given how many times you've commented on Trump's latest allegations of sleaziness I have to assume you do.

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Stormy just filed defamation lawsuit. Stay tuned.

Stormy doesn't have the brains to do that. The wanna be "celebrity" lawyer counseling her did it on her behalf. She will lose no matter what. The scumbag lawyer exploiting her wins both ways.

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@yak greed! An old rich man and a prostitute.

To defend Trump his backers have to keep lowering the bar. After all, their idol's just another reality TV star masquerading as the POTUS.

Good theater for his followers, who are a minority of Americans, but worrying for the rest.

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She gave up any right to demand privacy for her son. What goes around, comes around.

I sure hop liberals remember this in the future when they get attacked by conservatives, women, children, they better not cry foul, because as they you say, all bets are off.

Melania needs to be reminded that there was a child involved. It was Stormy's child and one of Trump's goons threatened the baby.

How do you know if this happened? How can you prove it? This woman has admitted to lying and has a credibility problem, if you can prove it, so be it.

Given how many times you've commented on Trump's latest allegations of sleaziness I have to assume you do.

For JT conversational sake....not caring, but to respond in amusement.

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Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen has admitted paying Daniels $130,000 shortly before the 2016 election, but has not explained why.

LOL

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Interview highlights of Stormy Daniels & Karen McDougal:

"Mr. Trump told me I was bright, beautiful and sexy. And that I reminded him of his daughter, Ivanka."

The only thing missing now is a comical blue movie featuring Trump getting it on. An old geezer chasing women half his age around a hotel room.

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I sure hop liberals remember this in the future when they get attacked by conservatives, women, children

Liberals already remember this happening in the past.

Maybe you should go back in time and give that advice to your own people. If you did, then you wouldn't be seeing this issue right now. For most Liberals, the main issue here is the hypocrisy of the right in having freaked out about these exact type of issues in the past, while now saying things like 'no one cares' when the tables are turned.

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Who do we believe, the porn star or the orange clown's minion? The porn star, of course.

Nice Presidency you've got there. A shame if something happened to it.

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So it never happened and the lawyer never paid her 130k to keep her from saying it happened, because it never happened? :-/

makes perfect sense!!!!

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Trump would probably have an easier time defending himself if he weren't a known liar and proven scammer.

But that's his choice. Oh well.

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Trump would probably have an easier time defending himself if he weren't a known liar and proven scammer.

And he would probably get less mud slung at him if he were not a mud slinger. Remember that non-existent porn tape he told everyone to search for? The fake news he spread, while now whining about fake news?

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Illegal agreement, because it lacked Trump’s signature

Violated federal laws that impose limits on campaign donations

Cohen now sued for defamation

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

It's great to see Trump getting a taste of the same kind of legal harassment he's handed out all his life. Karma sucks, doesn't it Spanky?

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Liberals already remember this happening in the past.

They do? It would seem some liberals forgot, so the memory needs to be jogged a bit to never forget, because as was said, what comes around, goes around.

Maybe you should go back in time and give that advice to your own people. If you did, then you wouldn't be seeing this issue right now.

Right back to the liberal left.

For most Liberals, the main issue here is the hypocrisy of the right in having freaked out about these exact type of issues in the past, while now saying things like 'no one cares' when the tables are turned.

Yes and we will point out the hypocrisy on the left as well, the day isn't long enough to list them all chronologically.

Who do we believe, the porn star or the orange clown's minion? The porn star, of course.

Ok, you can believe the porn star, I don't and we just have to differ on that one. Lol

Nice Presidency you've got there. A shame if something happened to it.

That he gets rid of entitlements? That would be yuuuge!

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They do? It would seem some liberals forgot

Oh now, we remember. That's why we're playing your own game right back at you guys, and you haaaaaaate it.

Right back to the liberal left.

Right back to the conservative right. You guys started this. Sucks to have your own game played against you don't it!

Yes and we will point out the hypocrisy on the left as well, the day isn't long enough to list them all chronologically.

There isn't enough time in the universe to list all the hypocrisies of the right.

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I sure hop liberals remember this in the future when they get attacked by conservatives, women, children, they better not cry foul, because as they you say, all bets are off.

Trump partisan declares war on those trying to uncover the truth shocker!

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Oh now, we remember. That's why we're playing your own game right back at you guys, and you haaaaaaate it.

No, I just know it'll come back around again, I just don't want to hear whiny libs complain when it does and not be in a gasp.

Right back to the conservative right. You guys started this. Sucks to have your own game played against you don't it!

No, you guys started getting nutty back in 1984, but it was still manageable and not as severe as it is now.

There isn't enough time in the universe to list all the hypocrisies of the right.

Not nearly as much as on the left.

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I just don't want to hear whiny libs complain

No one complains like conservatives. They are the kings.

No, you guys started getting nutty back in 1984, but it was still manageable and not as severe as it is now.

And the GOP started getting nutty in 1982, and it’s always been bad for America. Guaranteed.

Not nearly as much as on the left.

But twice as much on the right.

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No, I just know it'll come back around again

Yeah, I'm sure it will, as we can already see how it has come back around to you guys right now.

I just don't want to hear whiny libs complain when it does and not be in a gasp.

I'm sure you don't want to hear liberals complain, but that would be pretty hypocritical of you, considering that you're complaining right now, when it has come back around to you. So why would you expect Liberals to do something other than what you do?

No, you guys started getting nutty back in 1984, but it was still manageable and not as severe as it is now.

No, that's when you guys elected Regan and got all nutty.

Not nearly as much as on the left.

We're rubber and you're glue. What you say bounces off us and sticks to you.

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Stormy doesn't have the brains to do that.

Yeah, go on thinking that. It takes a lot of smarts for an over-the-hill porn star to get where she's gotten.

Suing Cohen instead of Trump was astroke of genius - the latter would have been wrapped up in standing and constitutional procedures forever. A suit against Cohen should progress rapidly, perhaps concluding before the mid-terms. Now, anyone who thinks Trump is telling the truth and Daniels is lying is delusional. Cohen will be forced to either reveal the lies (and the inner workings of both the the White House and the Trump Organization), and Trump himself will likely be forced to receive a deposition.

So the question comes down to this: Will Trump and Cohen perjure themselves or finally come clean? Either choice is disastrous for both of them. Still calling Daniels stupid?

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I think she was honest when she said once. Another said continuously. And she is honest ,too.. Trump's lawyers. Majority are fired or resigned.

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I'm going to deny that there are stars in the night sky.

I think she was honest when she said once.

Me too. I mean, once with that thing is revolting enough.

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bass4funk: "They do? It would seem some liberals forgot, so the memory needs to be jogged a bit to never forget, because as was said, what comes around, goes around."

Who forgets when you say all this and then STILL bring up Clinton's sex scandals in an effort to undermine his wife, whom you then resort to nicknames in calling after saying nicknames are immature, etc.? Because what you're doing is talking about hypocrisy while engaging in it more than anyone on here.

"Yes and we will point out the hypocrisy on the left as well, the day isn't long enough to list them all chronologically."

As I said, you specifically do this more than anyone on the site. Remember, you STILL bring up Clinton's affairs, claiming immorality, and now say "Who cares?" when it's Trump; just like the evangelicals. Heck, let's just recall you saying Trump was a "lunatic" before he was chosen for the GOP ticket, and now look how you adore him. Drain the swamp? He fills it up ("Who cares? LOL").

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It could be postulated that SD was threatened by her own Guild... that representing those who partake in her line of work.

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Clearly, as of now,... she has killed off all High end Escorts, as no one in their right mind who can afford them would wish to be with them, for concern over what may happen in future...... that looks like a major Hate club membership to me.

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So much Fake News. Never been more voluminous or more inaccurate

Coming from the man who goes to the National Enquirer for roaring stupidity and lavatorial conspiracy trash.

Stormy Daniels should have spanked his backside with Obama’s birth certificate.

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Right back to the liberal left.

The behavior exhibited by Trump has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. I do not blame conservatism for Trump's dishonesty, shameless self-aggrandizement, and lack of care for anything besides himself. I blame Trump and his sycophantic enablers for those severe character flaws.

I find it really abhorrent that some Trump supporters have turned this issue (and others) into a battle between conservatives and liberals. Claiming that Stormy Daniels broke a non-disclosure agreement about an affair that supposedly never happened, an agreement that Trump never signed and was supposedly settled with money paid by Trump's lawyer--would you say this kind of behavior is inherently "conservative"? It just stinks, and anybody who claims nonpartisanship should call it out as such.

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The infidelity in and of itself may be bad, but it's a private matter. The bigger matter is the hypocrisy of those who take a moral high-ground about marriage issues and infidelity... until it's one of their own. Then it's ok.

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Who cares?  Unsurprising that he would lust after a porn star.  look at his list of publicly acknowledged women/wives.  seems like they were a good match (Stormy claims she loved him????).

Meanwhile he gets on witht he business of making America great again.

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Trump and his bumbling attorney Cohen are outclassed by Daniels and Avenatti in all ways.

Avenatti has been setting legal traps for Cohen and Trump, and they bumble into them time and time again. I was waiting for this last trap to be tripped, challenging Daniels to present proof. Avenatti tweeted a picture of a data disk, which is most likely proof that will come out in court.

Avenatti filed libel charges against Trump and Cohen to try to force them to give testimony.

Furthermore, by Cohen's own statements and now Trump's, the affair didn't exist, so the is no damages for violating the NDA. There could be a libel case if she is not telling the truth, not likely.

The NDA calls for $1M in damages for each disclosure, but that is absurd and legally not enforceable since only actual damages can be awarded. Cohen suing for $20M for 20 disclosures is absurd, each disclosure doesn't result in additional damage since information would already out there.

Plus, how damaging is sex with porn star when you are talking about a man like Trump. His supporters already know he is a creep. Melania certainly knows he is a creep. So, how can a porn star's story be damaging to Trump?

Once this bogus NDA gets shredded by the light of day, more people who have been silenced by BS NDAs are going to come forward.

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Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen has admitted paying Daniels $130,000 shortly before the 2016 election, but has not explained why. "The president doesn't believe any of the claims Ms Daniels made in the interview last night were accurate," Shah said, while admitting Trump may not have watched it all.

"There's nothing to collaborate her claim," Shah added,

Although I wouldn't say that the 130k payment 'corroborates' her claim, DT's camp's failure to give any plausible explanation certainly does cast doubts on his credibility/version of events. What was it for then?

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More power to him, I say!

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Since he STRONGLY denies it, I think we are free to STRONGLY call him a liar.

Lawyers don't pay $10 to shut someone up over something that never happened, much less $130K. Plus, if Trump didn't repay his lawyer, there is campaign finance rules that were violated. $130K is a "gift in-kind" which is over the allowed limit and must be declared.

This is all slimy, except the adult film star and the relatives on both sides forced to deal with our boy-man President because he can't control "the little head."

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Live this. The constantly outraged are falling over themselves in faux indignation while President Trump’s approval rating went up 7 points since February.

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Love this

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Trump’s approval rating went up 7 points since February.

Are you sure you read the numbers correctly this time?

Is that the average of the polls or just the one you like?

I’m guessing it’s the latter.

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It’s pretty funny how such a “stable genius “as trump with all his “money “ hires two of the most incompetent lawyers I have ever seen.

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The latest CNN poll, Jimizo.

Or are they fake news as well?

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And yet, still the least liked president in modern history:

Trump's approval rating remains below that of all of his modern-era predecessors at this stage in their first term after being elected

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And more interesting tidbits from that same article:

On the President's character, Trump has made some improvements since November lows on a range of attributes, but most remain in negative territory. Majorities say he cannot bring the kind of change the country needs (52%) and that he won't unite the country (60%). About six in 10 say they don't see him as honest and trustworthy (59%), that they are not proud to have him as president (59%), and that he does not respect the rule of law (58%). Most also say Trump does not care about people like them (56%).

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Who cares? Unsurprising that he would lust after a porn star. 

Little did Trump know at the time that Stormy Daniels was an alt-left, deep state, fake news porn star. Working for Comey, Mueller, and Crooked Hillary. This is all building to an incredible narrative climax.

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Nope. He’s neck and neck with St Obama

And yet, still lower than all.

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The latest CNN poll, Jimizo. 

Or are they fake news as well?

The other day you named Rasmussen as the only polling company you trusted. I tried to get you to name another but you refused to do so. I asked so many times but got nothing in reply. I made the assumption you thought Rasmussen was the only trustworthy one.

When did you start trusting CNN polls? It must have been after our conversation the other day.

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You do going by the number of comments you have posted on this sexual encounter.

No just conversation for JT. But I’m still voting for him, even if this porn Star lies her way to some form of macabre fame. I think it’s funny actually.

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macabre fame.

What does that mean? Is that a 'euphenism'?

I’m still voting for him, even if

That's it in a nutshell. It's all just tribalism.

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Love hearing from a women who chose to make a "career" out of taking guys into every orifice of her body as someone credible. You had an affair with Donald Trump a long time ago. Consensual as she admitted. Any plans to return the NDA money?

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It’s all relative, my friend. If CNN says 7 points, it’s probably higher

point is; No . One. Cares!

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a women who chose to make a "career" out of taking guys into every orifice of her body as someone credible.

How does sexual activity on screen correlate with not being credible? If anything, I'd think such a person would have less to hide.

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It’s all relative, my friend. If CNN says 7 points, it’s probably higher

It seems strange to pick a poll you don’t ( didn’t? ) trust and then go on to state the number is probably higher anyway. What’s your formula? Pick a poll you like and add...5? 10?

I think you’d be better off just thinking of a number you like and settling on that. It’s more honest in some ways.

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How does sexual activity on screen correlate with not being credible? If anything, I'd think such a person would have less to hide.

I'm ok with looking at reasons why she may not be credible, but if the only 'reason' is because she was in porn, I would find that incredible, for it would make the person making such a statement, not very credible.

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I think you’d be better off just thinking of a number you like and settling on that. It’s more honest in some ways.

I see.

So. Are you suggesting his rise in popularity is false news?

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Clemenza, RealClearPolitics provides an amalgam of polls, including those by Fox (and even they have him nine points underwater). Most people don't pay attention to news details, so recent events likely are not reflected in polling numbers - much less what will come out when the trial begins.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

What's also unmentioned is Trump's popularity with Melania. With Daniel's interview concluded but worse to come with the trial looming, one wonders if she will ever move back to the White House.

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Yeah, go on thinking that. It takes a lot of smarts for an over-the-hill porn star to get where she's gotten.

That go the same for TRUMP too.

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so will the other 27% of Hispanics/Asians who voted for him

So will the military, blue collar workers, gun right holders, evangelicals, now you’re bringing it up to 50% but that added 27% is also very helpful.

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Could care less, but hopefully when the guillotine falls on Trump people will remember that he was a slimeball con man from beginning to end. Nothing can wipe the muck off someone who was scummy in the first place.

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So. Are you suggesting his rise in popularity is false news?

The "fake" news is reporting 7% increase because of the economy. I don't see it as a referendum on Trump. His party is still losing in primarily red jurisdictions that Trump is backing and won during the election.

The population looks at things very short term, an inability to discount future benefits (in economic terms).

The Fed just raised interest rates and plans to keep doing so. The bill for the tax give-away to the rich is coming due. In order to balance the budget following that give-away, the GoP will be cutting soon to be retiring people's social security and medicare. Even assuming the GoP gets kicked in the teeth during the mid-terms and losses the house (and entitlements are not cut), the bill on the give-away will still be due, and interest rates will continue to rise in order to keep inflation at bay.

We also have the makings of a trade war that will hurt the economy. Funny how people can't factor that in when saying the economy is better under Trump.

Let's see how the population feels about the economy when they start feeling the effects from those changes.

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So will the military, blue collar workers, gun right holders, evangelicals, now you’re bringing it up to 50% but that added 27% is also very helpful.

You are double counting and then applying a dismal approval of 42% to an ability to win a contested election?

The GoP has idiots saying learning CPR and learning how to defend yourself from a shooter is more important than sensible gun laws.

The only sensible thing from the GoP (shocking really) in recent days is a proposal to legalize farming of hemp, the gateway crop banned by big industry. Look out oil, cotton, and textile industries, the GoP is acting against your interests. Time to yank the chain on Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul before they do something rational.

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If you say so, but you voted for Obama in his first term and then turned against him for the second so you could do the same with Trump.

No, I never voted for the man, I’m not stupid, I would never do that, knew what the man was and what he represented, so I voted for McCain.

That's it in a nutshell. It's all just tribalism

That’s how the left calls it? Tribalism, the very definition of a liberal collective, not part of it, bro.

The behavior exhibited by Trump has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. I do not blame conservatism for Trump's dishonesty, shameless self-aggrandizement, and lack of care for anything besides himself. I blame Trump and his sycophantic enablers for those severe character flaws.

No different every other human, but with more smack down finesse.

I find it really abhorrent that some Trump supporters have turned this issue (and others) into a battle between conservatives and liberals.

No, Trump supporters were always attacked, scorned, ridiculed, deemed unworthy, called deplorables, called dumb, ignorant etc. the left started the name calling as they always do and the lib networks, my former employer cannot go a single day without disparaging any conservative, abhorrent doesn’t even begin to describe the liberal assault and outrageous petty attacks and if they can’t get the President out of office, then let’s bring a questionable former porn star with the credibility of a Taco Bell Shop and see if we can at least humiliate him privately with something unimportant that happened 12 years ago.

Claiming that Stormy Daniels broke a non-disclosure agreement about an affair that supposedly never happened,

Supposedly, if you tend to believe her version, which I don’t.

an agreement that Trump never signed and was supposedly settled with money paid by Trump's lawyer--would you say this kind of behavior is inherently "conservative"? It just stinks, and anybody who claims nonpartisanship should call it out as such.

Looks like we will never know the truth. The left believe the porn star and the right believe Trump.

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I think you’d be better off just thinking of a number you like and settling on that. It’s more honest in some ways.

I see.

So. Are you suggesting his rise in popularity is false news?

His approval rating according to the average of the polls have risen about 2% in the period you claimed they had risen by 7%. If you look at that hard line chart thing, he’s been fluctuating between 39% and 42% for quite a while now. Very low indeed, lower than average and still lower than when he was inaugurated with the largest crowd ever witnessed.

Can we add CNN to Rasmussen as polls you trust? CNN has his approval rating at 42%. How much do you add to that according to the Clamenza formula to get a more realistic number? 15%?

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So. Are you suggesting his rise in popularity is false news?

Depends, are you saying that CNN is a reliable source of information?

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His approval rating according to the average of the polls have risen about 2% in the period you claimed they had risen by 7%. If you look at that hard line chart thing, he’s been fluctuating between 39% and 42% for quite a while now. Very low indeed, lower than average and still lower than when he was inaugurated with the largest crowd ever witnessed. 

I was just saying, but I never put too much stock in polls, never have, they proved to be wrong so often.

Can we add CNN to Rasmussen as polls you trust? CNN has his approval rating at 42%. How much do you add to that according to the Clamenza formula to get a more realistic number? 15%?

I trust the economy, that will dictate the overall outcome of the presidency and midterms.

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I trust the economy, that will dictate the overall outcome of the presidency and midterms.

But as your non-partisan historians pointed out on the Bush years, the economy isn’t always the vital factor. Your non-partisan historians regarded his presidency as a success although the economy flew off a cliff.

I think you need to read these non-partisan historians again.

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I trust the economy, 

What about the "economy" do you trust?

Higher stock market prices? Increasing GDP? Low unemployment? Higher average wages? Low inflation?

I used to trust Greenspan... Now, I see most economists in public or educational institutions as shills.

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Happened didn’t happen....yawn....who cares?

60 Minutes got their best ratings in a decade from this episode. So a lot of people obviously care.

The last episode that got better ratings was from an interview with the Obamas, in 2008. Both of which dwarfed the numbers the interview with trump got when he was on.

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Anybody who believes anything Trump says on any subject ever is a complete fool. By definition she is more credible, simply by not being Trump.

Apart from Cohen going public about the existence of the NDA when he admitted the dodgy payment, the content was made public through the publication of the old magazine article based on interviews done long before the NDA. Stormy had nothing to do with making it public so she can't be blamed for that, and now it's in the public realm. So I think she is in the clear. She has also offered to repay the dough.

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Anybody who believes anything Trump says on any subject ever is a complete fool. By definition she is more credible, simply by not being Trump.

Exactly. I knew this before the election when Trump played a loud mouth fool on TV.

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Hee hee. Just read that Daniels' lawsuit jurisdiction is Los Angeles County Superior Court. Ah, Los Angeles: probably the place with the greatest gap between tolerance for porn stars and contempt for Trump. It is scheduled to be heard on July 12.

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"There's nothing to collaborate her claim," Shah added, going a step further and accusing her of changing her story.

To collaborate her claim?! Why does this WH have such a tough time with English?

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Why does this WH have such a tough time with English?

But Trump has a lot of words, the best words...

Unfortunately he and his team don't assemble them into coherent thoughts or sentences.

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Stormy doesn't have the brains to do that. The wanna be "celebrity" lawyer counseling her did it on her behalf. She will lose no matter what. The scumbag lawyer exploiting her wins both ways.

You clearly have no idea of how tort law works. Defamation is a tort. Tort lawyers work on contingency fees. This means that if there is no recovery, the lawyer doesn't get paid.

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Looks like we will never know the truth. The left believe the porn star and the right believe Trump.

Another way of stating this is: The left believe the person that has not yet been proven to be a compulsive/pathological liar and the right believe the person that has been demonstrated numerous times to be a compulsive/pathological liar.

Smart move, conservatives.

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Happened didn’t happen....yawn....who cares?

Clearly you given you posted 7 or 8 times after your first post. Brilliant way to demonstrate your point.

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"There's nothing to collaborate her claim," Shah added, going a step further and accusing her of changing her story.

To collaborate her claim?! Why does this WH have such a tough time with English?

Trump is hearby unpresidented and to great for educatuon.

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Scariest thing about this is not Trump's lies, er, denials but the fact that he has the kind of contacts who can threaten women.

Think about that. If his contacts can threaten lives before becoming PotUS, how far can he go now?

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The wanna be "celebrity" lawyer counseling her did it on her behalf. She will lose no matter what. The scumbag lawyer exploiting her wins both ways.

Maybe you are confusing the celebrity in the WH.

The "wanna be celebrity lawyer" is an extremely competent and successful attorney. Cohen is laughable in comparison.

In fact, Trump has some of the world's best attorneys . . . as adversaries in civil and criminal matters. Kinda scary.

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Clifford's lawyer is nicely taunting Sleazy Don into a Twitter meltdown.

"The ratings for my client's @stormydaniels appearance on @60minutes last night CRUSHED (BY MILLIONS) any Apprentice show in the last ten years as well as Mr. Trump's Nov 2016 appearance," he tweeted Monday.

Earlier, he hinted at revelations that could also spur presidential outrage.

"She can describe his genitalia," he said on NBC's "Today" show.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-stormy-daniels/index.html

Suck. It. Up. Evangelicals.

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Suck. It. Up. Evangelicals.

This:

"She can describe his genitalia," he said on NBC's "Today" show.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-stormy-daniels/index.html

?

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point is; No . One. Cares!

Clearly you do given your posts. Odd how rightists are always spouting off falsehoods about something and then when challenged falling back on: No. One Cares!

If nobody cared, why did you engage in the "conversation," as Bass put it?

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Yes and we will point out the hypocrisy on the left as well, the day isn't long enough to list them all chronologically.

Give us your top 10 list then. A liberal like Letterman could do it, surely you can. Heck, let's make it easier; your top 5.

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No, I never voted for the man (Obama), I’m not stupid, I would never do that, knew what the man was and what he represented, so I voted for McCain.

So, you are doing what you claim lefties are doing, calling the opposing team deplorables or in this case stupid. I never said conservatives are deplorables, but they seem to have lost their minds lately and can't tell fact from fiction. I think it is desperation.

You voted for McCain after he picked Palin for VP? She is scarier than Pence as a VP. I Instantly decided Obama was worth voting for, plus he had a better message.

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In the past you have said that you voted for Obama. I’m not alone in having read that. What gives champ?

I read that too.

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In fact, Trump has some of the world's best attorneys . . . as adversaries in civil and criminal matters. Kinda scary.

Very scary. Michael Cohen would best be described as Trump's consigliere, as in this Godfather clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sql3pQoSito

He and other Trump thugs have a long history of threatening those Trump tells them to. A few examples are here, including a slip-up by Cohen's lawyer that will attract interest: https://www.vox.com/2018/3/26/17164212/stormy-daniels-trump-michael-cohen

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Well I remember when the tables were turned, and it was he Republicans ranting about a stained dress and Clinton's antics. I thought it made the Republicans look like idiots. In fact, they did look like idiots.

So it's funny to me that some anti-Trumpers here think this is a smart course of action. They will end up looking just as stupid, and Trump will still be president. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it....

The fact is, Americans didn't care then, and they care even less now. The faux outrage on the left is hysterical. Now they have not only adopted McCarthy era anti-Russian hysteria, but now they are all about family values as well. Maybe they should start calling themselves Republicans.

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But as your non-partisan historians pointed out on the Bush years, the economy isn’t always the vital factor.

I did.

Scariest thing about this is not Trump's lies, er, denials but the fact that he has the kind of contacts who can threaten women. 

If that is what indeed happened.

Think about that. If his contacts can threaten lives before becoming PotUS, how far can he go now?

Juanita Broderick was threatened as well or so that’s what she claimed.

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The faux outrage on the left is hysterical. Now they have not only adopted McCarthy era anti-Russian hysteria, but now they are all about family values as well.

Yeah, I can't speak for others but I'm more concerned about the long history of lies and sexual predatory behaviour of Trump and that it appears the woman was threatened.

A death threat.

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Vernon - the world is full of wealthy tyrants, full of themselves without a sense of common decency, ready to squash any and everyone who opposes them.

History is littered with them. Nothing special at all.

And Trump is the modern leader of the pack.

He vowed to clean out the swamp - so his alligator kin could rule it themselves.

Ms Daniels will certainly croc up his skin.

I thought he was a creep 20 years ago, and no amount of flash now, can convince me otherwise.

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Americans didn't care then, and they care even less now. The faux outrage on the left is hysterical. 

Commanteer, you're speaking like Trump now. When he say's "Americans," we know who he means - and who he doesn't.

To set the record straight:

Liberals are American.

The outrage is not faux.
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Yeah, I can't speak for others but I'm more concerned about the long history of lies and sexual predatory behaviour of Trump

So you say.

and that it appears the woman was threatened.

A death threat.

So she says.

People say all kinds of things, all the time. That's why we need evidence.

Commanteer, you're speaking like Trump now. When he say's "Americans," we know who he means - and who he doesn't.

That's remarkable. You actually have a line straight into his brain. Even accepting your bold premise that liberals are American, when have they ever been bothered by infidelity in a politician (who wasn't, you know, a republican)? And let's not forget the horrible misogynistic abuse and bullying heaped on Monica Lewinsky, by... ahem... liberals.

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People say all kinds of things, all the time. That's why we need evidence.

I agree, which is why your post can be included under the "what people say" file

that some anti-Trumpers here think this is a smart course of action. They will end up looking just as stupid, and Trump will still be president. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it....The fact is, Americans didn't care then, and they care even less now. The faux outrage on the left is hysterical. Now they have not only adopted McCarthy era anti-Russian hysteria, but now they are all about family values as well. Maybe they should start calling themselves Republicans.

Which is an opinion and not evidence.

Apart from those who don't learn from history. Which is a given.

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Which is an opinion and not evidence.

Of course it's an opinion. Actual facts tend to get far more downvotes here!

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when have they ever been bothered by infidelity in a politician (who wasn't, you know, a republican)?

John Edwards comes to mind. Legally, his debacle most closely resembles Trump's, with the exception that Dems immediately ostracized him though he was a front runner while Repubs keep doubling down on their champ. Even the Christioan Right is comparing Trump to King David - a major difference being, of course, that the latter realized his errors and begged God for forgiveness, while Trump continues with his lies.

And let's not forget the horrible misogynistic abuse and bullying heaped on Monica Lewinsky

You are correct, and most Dems would - and do - agree. The way Lewinsky was treated back in the '90s would be scandalous today. But today is not the 90s. The Dems have learned from their mistakes. Will the Repubs?

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Once again I say, why would you believe anything a silicone pumped up porn star drug addict would say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujk4k9Zvac8

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It’s too late for Trump fans to turn back, and this porn star story isn’t going away. Should be good fun.

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Once again I say, why would you believe anything a silicone pumped up porn star drug addict would say?

Same answer as before.

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Vernon - I guess one could say -

" Why would you believe anything a fake-tanned up, ex tv star, sex addict would say?"

After seeing the "...grab 'em by the p***y..." video, not much else could pass Trump's lips worth anything of value.

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TH - Thank you SO much for keeping that out there!

zichi - The President has not confessed to anything. We have yet another drugged-up floozy coming out of the woodwork to make a buck. Nothing more, nothing less

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We have yet another drugged-up floozy coming out of the woodwork to make a buck. Nothing more, nothing less

More denigration of women. Nothing more, nothing less.

And unfortunately for your unreliable narrative, your President has confessed to sexually assaulting women. It's on tape. Actual tape - not one of his make-believe recordings.

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And unfortunately for your unreliable narrative, your President has confessed to sexually assaulting women. It's on tape. Actual tape - not one of his make-believe recordings.

Nope. You have a man on tape admitting what all men know - women throw themselves after rich, powerful men.

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We have yet another drugged-up floozy coming out of the woodwork to make a buck. Nothing more, nothing less

Please, Clamenza, you and your cohorts, please continue with this type of rhetoric through November! Trump squeezed by with 52% of the white female vote in '16 (though his share of the entire female vote was only 41%). GOP congressmen are in despair as displayed by the record number of incumbents dropping reelection bids - many of them chased out by newly-energized female candidates.

So keep it up, Clamenza. And please tell all of your friends to do so, too. Ya'll are being a great help to the liberal cause.

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We have yet another drugged-up floozy coming out of the woodwork to make a buck. Nothing more, nothing less

Who were the other ones?

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"The outlook is Stormy"

Oh my...

Steyn on not-so-Stormy Daniels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLPmg88LWPk

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My sources say Stormy Daniels was high due to excessive pupil dilation and my sources ask why Larry Sinclair nor the Clinton accusers never had CNN end 60 minutes “specials”.

So I thought I would be nice instead and just report that your sources are unimpressed with Stormy and her lawyer as well.

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So you didn’t learn about Stormy Daniels by the 18 consecutive days of multiple articles on cnn.com or the hours of their daily tv coverage? Wow it was really hard to miss it for anyone who has a tv or internet. But ok guess one of the other liberal sites or stations got you this important info.

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My sources say Stormy Daniels was high due to excessive pupil dilation and my sources ask why Larry Sinclair 

I recall some other story about Trump being high on coke during one of the presidential debates. Seems we share the same sources

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President Trump having sex while married to someone else bothers me, just like when President Clinton did it.

I'm torn about which matters more to me, moral faults or incompetence as a President.

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You have a man on tape admitting what all men know - women throw themselves after rich, powerful men.

It's clear some men have a distorted view of how they should comport themselves and the role of women. I don't know where they learn it but it's genuinely saddening.

The comments directed towards Daniels and other women involved are a symptom of some men's attitudes towards women as a whole. Objects who exist only for their pleasure, to be used, abused and then sneered at when they query that role or use whatever means they can to fight back.

That Trump has enabled the misogynistic, maladjusted malcontents to "assert" themselves over women in such a grotesque fashion, it's hardly surprising that women are saying "enough is enough".

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Well wow you are missing such a valuable source for all the critical anti Trump stories that impact us as a nation.

It's not so much the coverage, rather the response from the die hard Trumpologists that shows your nation in a bad light.

Well, some of your nation, at any rate.

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Your ridiculous liberal media trying to tell me that Stormy Daniels would beat Trump in an election. But only if she doesn’t use her porn name. No wonder no one listens to your polls and nonsense that liberal media people write

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/380446-poll-trump-would-beat-stormy-daniels-in-2020-but-would-lose-if-she-used-her

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Trump needs more lawyers but his side lawyers are either fired by Trump or resigned.

@bass4: If you want to help Trump, stop. writing. You have been increasing anti Trump crowd.

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How does sexual activity on screen correlate with not being credible? If anything, I'd think such a person would have less to hide.

It's no different than in a court of law. Right or wrong, but a porn "star" is simply a woman who chooses to have sex with men on camera for money - i.e. a prostitute - and those are NEVER the type of witnesses any lawyer wants to have as their one and only.

Again, getting to the point...she admits she had sex with a private citizen 10+ years before he became president. Ok, and? She shopped the story around since then to try and make financial gain. That makes her credible? Oh no, no.

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Not at all. There's plenty for the media to report, and which they basically have a duty to report.

They do, but I remember a time when I was starting out as a reporter, a story like this would have got you laughed out of a room. This is not news that people will say, this helps me with my everyday life. Maybe if the MSM would report on the actual news their ratings wouldn’t be in the toilet.

The story involves a little more than Trump's sexual adventures, because it affected the closing days of the presidential campaign. The media aren't just going to let it fade out, they'll want to know every detail of who paid what, how it was paid, what the NDA contained, whether it has any legal standing, whether any crimes were committed by making the payoff. If you think they'll let go of that, you're dreaming.

They MSM are so obsessed with this President in such an unhealthy and selfish way, they completely neglected what the people want to hear, no wonder their ratings are in the toilet. But if this is all they have and their best, then they really have nothing at all.

"This woman who is a porn star" was worth someone's while to pay more than $100,000 to. And that was a little over a year ago. This is not something that's just buried in the distant past. Now it gets unnecessary additional publicity because she's being sued. Trump and Cohen have plenty to lose by this, and about 20 different ways to lose.

And?

The Twitter silence is impressive. I didn't realize DT was capable of such restrained, almost noble, dignity. He's going to burst a gasket if he has to keep a lid on it much longer.

Why on Earth with the president even lower himself to address these allegations. The media and Trump haters can marinade and dwell on this as long as they want. He’s got more important things to do like running the country and making the left look like desperate moonbats.

But still lower than any other previous president except Gerald Ford.

But still rising. Ford had to deal with a country that had been beaten by Watergate, the country was tired, tossed in a disarray, the war in Vietnam, Ford was thrown in without the people that just had to accept him, so very different times, different situations.

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Once again I say, why would you believe anything a silicone pumped up porn star drug addict would say?

Once again I say, why would you believe anything a demonstrated compulsive/pathological liar would say? You're claiming the poem star may lack credibility when we already have ample evidence that Trump has no credibility.

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Don't worry Trump supporters, Trump lawyer is during $20.million against Stormy. Meanwhile, Federal investigation is on for campaign donation ilegurality allegation.

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Sex between two consenting adults is nobody else’s business. That is the Clinton’s legacy. Unless of course if you are one of those pervy people that like to watch.

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Sex between two consenting adults is nobody else’s business.

And back then, the left insisted on driving that point and scolded the media and the GOP to remember that.

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Trump will strongly deny he started WW3

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Nope. You have a man on tape admitting what all men know - women throw themselves after rich, powerful men.

Women throwing themselves at a man is far different than a man uncomsensually grabbing those women by the genitals. In the former case, women are giving consent through their action of throwing themselves at the men. In the latter case, the women were unwilling participants in the man's grabbing of the women's genitalia.

See the action and inaction dichotomy there? Yeah, that's where Dumpster Fire Donny admitted to sexually assaulting women.

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And back then, the left insisted on driving that point and scolded the media and the GOP to remember that

Yes, because sex between two consenting adults is nobodies business until one of them makes it other people's business.

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Sex between two consenting adults is nobody else’s business.

Until the lawyer of one of these adults pays $130,000 to the other adult to keep quiet about it 12 days before a presidential election, potentially violating election law. Then it becomes everyone's business.

If the affair never happened, Trump could have just waved off the allegations like he has so many others. If the affair did happen, the NDA and its timing indicate that Trump was using money to support his own campaign without declaring it. Which is illegal. Unless you believe Cohen was just paying independent of his client's knowledge or intent.

I remember a time when I was starting out as a reporter, a story like this would have got you laughed out of a room.

And I remember a time when I was starting out as a reporter, predicting that a ridiculous character like Donald Trump would someday be POTUS would have got you laughed out of a room.

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Sex between two consenting adults is nobody else’s business.

But when one of them is on record as assaulting women and lying and is now President, it becomes everyone's business.

How many more lies is this man telling?

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1.) "I did not have sex with Stormy Daniels!" 2.) " I am sueing Stormy Daniels for $20 million for violating the Non-Disclosure Agreement regarding the sex that we had."

Got it.

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Yes, because sex between two consenting adults is nobodies business until one of them makes it other people's business.

On the one part you are right on the other half, it's d the one part it's a different story if you are the President of the US, when you are a private citizen, be my guest, I could care less.

Until the lawyer of one of these adults pays $130,000 to the other adult to keep quiet about it 12 days before a presidential election, potentially violating election law. Then it becomes everyone's business.

The only people that care about this in a very unhealthy and obsessive way would be the folks at CNN, they care, but as far as this be the smoking gun, you guys.....good luck, that is chasing another squirrel through the trees, get a tissue and wipe the saliva off. But I do give the media credit for trying. Poor Zucker, he must be pulling his hair out....forgot, the man has no hair.

If the affair never happened, Trump could have just waved off the allegations like he has so many others. If the affair did happen, the NDA and its timing indicate that Trump was using money to support his own campaign without declaring it. Which is illegal. Unless you believe Cohen was just paying independent of his client's knowledge or intent.

Stormy is not the problem and won't be the downfall of the President, so no worries on that one, however, the Karen McDougal, that's a different story, while equally it won't hurt him politically, but privately, that might be a very different story. Stormy was a porn star and....well, it was supposedly a one night stand, but with McDougal it was a real relationship and that could have possible ramifications within his marriage. Time will tell.

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predicting that a ridiculous character like Donald Trump would someday be POTUS would have got you laughed out of a room.

You are right, but looking back, many of us thought like that at the time, boy were we wrong!

But when one of them is on record as assaulting women and lying and is now President, it becomes everyone's business.

What record? Stormy's mouth? Who was there? Who saw what? You take the porn stars word for it, I don't. None of us know if this actually happened or not or in the manner which she said it did.

How many more lies is this man telling?

How many more lies is she and the media are telling or willing to tell?

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What record? Stormy's mouth? Who was there? Who saw what? You take the porn stars word for it, I don't. None of us know if this actually happened or not or in the manner which she said it did.

Trump is on record for sexually assaulting women. It's on tape. He admitted it. He's a proven liar so this is why people are questioning his honesly on this.

How many more lies is she and the media are telling or willing to tell?

Can you answer my question, ta?

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Trump is on record for sexually assaulting women. It's on tape. He admitted it.

He admitted what? Beating up women? Raping them? Where and when did he say this? What tape?

He's a proven liar so this is why people are questioning his honesly on this.

Show me one politician that never lied. If you go by that statement, then all of them are liars, so what you're saying is nothing significant.

Can you answer my question, ta?

I just did.

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@bas4 He admitted what? Beating up women? Raping them?

Show me one politician that never lied

Trump supporters can only support him by keeping the bar low.

Curious why Trump supporters are so obsessed with Stormy, especially when they must realize there are so many more women who've accused him of sexual assault.

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Trump supporters can only support him by keeping the bar low and continued whatabbouteries.

Uh-huh, when all else backfires revert to name calling and why? The left has nothing that's why.

Curious why Trump supporters are so obsessed with Stormy, especially when they must realize there are so many more women who've accused him of sexual assault. But then I've read many extremists, particularly, ultra-rightists, are OCD.

The right are not in the slightest obsessed with this woman, it's just funny to us why the left keep this woman in the headlines. What purpose, the woman is not that attractive, she's a porn star, the woman has been on record to be a known liar and why would anyone even think of taking a porn star serious? Lol

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as far as this be the smoking gun, you guys.....good luck, that is chasing another squirrel through the trees

won't be the downfall of the President, so no worries on that one, 

Smoking gun? Downfall? Don't be so melodramatic. Journalists have a duty to report questionable activity by those in power, including the president. Automatically assuming the press' motivation to be nothing but a partisan hit job is an affront to the profession, at least as the profession is conceived in democratic societies. You've been in the business long enough that I don't have to tell you that.

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And back then, the left insisted on driving that point and scolded the media and the GOP to remember that.

And back then, there wasn't a payoff during an election.

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"It never happened, and she is violating her agreement that cost Trump 130k to never to disclose that thing that never happened." "It never happened, and she is violating her agreement that cost Trump 130k to never to disclose that thing that never happened., and every time she talks about something that never happened itll cost her an extra $1million"

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And back then, there wasn't a payoff during an election.

LOL! Ok, so what do you want to have done?

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 What purpose, the woman is not that attractive, she's a porn star, the woman has been on record to be a known liar and why would anyone even think of taking a porn star serious? Lol but there is that other lady Karen McDougal who was a playboy model she is very attractive and refused payment from Trump after their first encounter, can we take her seriously!? Or maybe thats not possible since shes a woman!?

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LOL! Ok, so what do you want to have done?

Violations of the law are laughable now?

And, I thought Nixonian style corruption was history. At least the GoP put Nixon in check. How times have changed.

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Karen McDougal who was a playboy model she is very attractive and refused payment from Trump after their first encounter, can we take her seriously!? Or maybe thats not possible since shes a woman!?

McDougal, I do take seriously and I believe her, I just as always wonder the timing of all this. 12 years ago and now she just decides to come out in an election year? Yeah, right.

Violations of the law are laughable now? 

Then if anything, Stormy could be dragged for violating a signed document, her lawyer is trying to fight the charges, so far, not having any luck.

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Then if anything, Stormy could be dragged for violating a signed document, her lawyer is trying to fight the charges, so far, not having any luck.

She may very well be subject to civil damages for violating a contract, even if she is subject to a damages ruling, the damages will not be $1M per violation. Penalty damages are not allowable under contract law. Only actual damages are allowed. Daniels is not facing any criminal "charges".

No, Trump and his crew are the ones dancing around criminal charges.

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Trump denies this affair with Daniels?

Are there people out there that still actually believe anything that comes out of this guy's mouth?

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If there is no story here, why did they pay her all that money? I don't get it.

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It will be a breath of fresh air once the liberals wake up and realize this story is another dead end.

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Not according to FLOTUS who decided to remain in Florida and check out her prenup agreement limiting her to a $50 million payout day.

And you know this because.....

Not enough to maintain her level of comfort and spending.

And you have proof of this from....

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My political instincts predict it will be a complete Scud.

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My political instincts predict it will be a complete Scud.

Maybe, depends on if it develops and how Trump reacts to it.

Be careful about making predictions and trusting political instincts. Politics can be very unpredictable. Some people thought Trump was the leader of a lunatic fringe and predicted the whole thing would fizzle out and that Hillary Clinton would win the election.

With some people, I’ve actually put money down based on doing the opposite of what they predict based on ‘instincts’.

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Maybe, depends on if it develops and how Trump reacts to it. 

I think if anything at all should come from it, it would be with Melania.

Be careful about making predictions and trusting political instincts. Politics can be very unpredictable.

Just guessing bro. Not a complete science, but so far, I haven’t been that far off concerning the outcome of assaults on the President.

With some people, I’ve actually put money down based on doing the opposite of what they predict based on ‘instincts’.

I got money, don’t need to take other people’s money, especially over a possible nothing burger.

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With some people, I’ve actually put money down based on doing the opposite of what they predict based on ‘instincts’.

I got money, don’t need to take other people’s money, especially over a possible nothing burger.

You’ve misunderstood me. I’m talking about gambling. I’ve gambled money with bookmakers after reading the predictions of some with a terrible record of predictions. He said red, I backed black.

What’s your prediction for the 2018 midterms?

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bass: "It will be a breath of fresh air once the liberals wake up and realize this story is another dead end."

They won't wake up, lol

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It will be a breath of fresh air once the liberals wake up and realize this story is another dead end. it not about being a dead end but the continued reavealing of what Trumps true personality is

McDougal, I do take seriously and I believe her, I just as always wonder the timing of all this. 12 years ago and now she just decides to come out in an election year? Yeah, right. I agree it should have come out before the election, if the American people actually new the full scope of Trumps vileness would he still be POTUS or would they be chanting that same slogan he labeled President Hillary, lock him up! lock him up!

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What’s your prediction for the 2018 midterms?

I don't bet whether it's money etc., It might be a close one, but if you are asking me if the Dems win in a landslide, I doubt it.

Why indeed. Most people know why he would - because he can't restrain himself, because he's in the habit of ignoring legal advice, because he's the human equivalent of a skunk with an overactive spray gland, and numerous other reasons. 

Everyone knew this before he came into office. Come on, we're talking about a man who doesn't drink or smoke and never did drugs, he likes women, always did and when the story came out the President 12 years ago had sex with a porn star, you think people were like...."Omg! How could he?" Come on, get real! I wasn't surprised and every person that voted for him wasn't either.

But you're right to imply that he shouldn't. Morally and legally - I speak of the payoff and the non-disclosure agreement - he and Cohen are on exceedingly thin ice. There aren't many ways for this to go well for them, but a multitude of ways for it to go badly.

Yeah, but it won't, so I'm not too worried about it. This is going to end up in the dumpster of other failed attempts to get the President, so the porn star doesn't work, so we're right back to Russia....again, let's try for the 30th time now until hopefully something better comes along.....

You wouldn't really expect any luck at this stage, unless you live in a cloud of mental confusion. Until the suit receives a ruling, a decision isn't made for or against the plaintiff. What could easily happen in the meantime is that the suit is withdrawn, a common practice (especially for a nuisance litigator like Trump) and an entirely plausible outcome in this case, which involves considerable embarrassment to the White House and to Cohen himself. If they persist in pushing it all the way, "winning" isn't even close to a foregone conclusion, and could anyway be no more than a technical win with minimal damages awarded. 

I see. Well, anyway, this will be another dud firecracker.

There's a bit of a problem with contracts that contain illegal, unenforceable, or fanciful material, or that were signed under some form of duress. There's also a question of whether a person can be compelled to not speak about something that actually happened - especially as people are at such pains to state that what happened is "no biggie". And a judge may not be eager to enforce a document that could in a variety of ways be dismissed as worthless - they may not be sympathetic to legalistic thuggery.

A slap on the wrist and a fine, but Stormy taking down the President over something that happened 12 years ago, not going to happen.

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Tommy: In the latter case, the women were unwilling participants in the man's grabbing of the women's genitalia.

I don’t mean to be picky here but I believe Trump said that women let him grab them. So he stated clearly that the women were willing participants. You and the rest of those criticizing him for that “locker room” comment are lying about what he actually said.

See the action and inaction dichotomy there? 

Yes, wealthy men have women that chase them around and allow these men to do things to them that not just any poor sap can get away with. Are you really that naive?

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Were it to be true, which one has bad taste ? Sleeping with a dodgy prostitute, or sleeping with a dirty old man ?

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Irrelevant and illogical comment of course. 

Not at all, everyone knew that Trump wasn't a choir boy, but wanted a huge change over the crap we had before and to be rid of the establishment for once.

To return to where you started, your question was "Why would he lower himself to address these allegations". So I told you why he would; the fact that everyone knew before the election that he is a douchebag has nothing to do with your question or my answer.

We love our douchebag, better than the Washington snake pit scoundrels that circle D.C.

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over the crap we had before

There is crap now. Debt is ballooning. Medical costs are rising. Also, there is no wall. Even if there was a wall then who is going to pay for that? That's right. More debt to the taxpayers!! Trump is also proposing gun control.

better than the Washington snake pit scoundrels that circle D.C.

Those are Republicans. The USA is controlled by the Republicans.

wealthy men have women that chase them

You would have to be if you were old, fat, had fake orange hair and dentures.

I got money

Me too

It will be a breath of fresh air once the liberals wake up

They are not running Washington.

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but if you are asking me if the Dems win in a landslide, I doubt it. I doubt it also, but it only takes 1 or even two extra Dems seats in congress and Trump is neutered.

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Which is irrelevant to your question: "Why would he lower himself to address these allegations". That's question that I answered explaining exactly why he would do so. Why did you ask the question if you can't take the answer without pretending that it means something else? 

Uh-huh, anyway, this is another dud attempt of the left trying to nail the President.

No matter what process of distortion you apply, and no matter how many times you do it, "he wasn't a choirboy" doesn't have any relevance to your question and my answer. All you're trying to do is imply that the answer was making a different point (it wasn't), and that it made it without reference to your own question (it didn't).

Hmmmmm, you think so? 

but if you are asking me if the Dems win in a landslide, I doubt it. I doubt it also, but it only takes 1 or even two extra Dems seats in congress and Trump is neutered.

And there are 10 seats where there are vulnerable Democrats that are in States where Trump one big that are very nervous where the GOP could pick up a few seats, so this is not a sure deal by any means.

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"I did not have sex with Stormy Daniels, and I am sueing her for $20 million for violating the non-disclosure agreement about the sexual encounter that we did not have."

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Hey, I'm no big Trump supporter, but if my memory serves, the same crew of Democrats and left-leaning media who think they have Trump nailed up against the wall in their final big showdown with him here already told us (a full two decades ago) that there was "nothing to see here, move right along" when a president pulled the same stunts while IN office, while IN his office, and ON the clock.

Maybe if the Democrats focused on the path forward for their platform instead of just trying to "RESIST" and telling us all what it is today that we should be very offended and outraged by, they might win a few more elections.

Just sayin', like...

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*CaptDingleheimerMar. 30  09:07 pm JST **Maybe if the Democrats focused on the path forward for their platform instead of just trying to "RESIST" and telling us all what it is today that we should be very offended and outraged by, they might win a few more elections.*

Just sayin', like...

I don't know of any Democrats who actually care a whit about the affair or are in the least bit offended or outraged by it. It's not as if it's even a little surprising that he "might" have had one, or two or ten given his track record. What does offend is the near complete and utter silence regarding said affair and hypocrisy thereof by the majority of the good, Christian, family-values-loving right who've spent the past three decades telling everyone else how they should live. Oh, and the possible illegal use of campaign funds to keep Stormy quiet. Just saying .....

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Fact is if Mr Trump is shy of his affair with Stormy , it is clear he is clearly most untrustworthy man he proves himself is obvious, why she will reveal his sex desires like a play boy he did with her? any one may ask - see during McKinley's time he was very honest man so too T. Roosevelt, H Cabot Lodge, they were just great presidents to be respected, same Republicans who were supporting them were really a better lot of today for they got angry when Cuba was annexed, the same republicans why democrats also made so very clear, when American mind was very clear they never wanted more states but only wanted business with all over the world, they stated 'If empire could be shown to pay, the capitalists would swallow such qualms as some of them had pocket their profits. Empire however would always nag at the democratic conscience.' thee American were saying - today in 21st century, you have a man who wants to build a mexico wall, Putin's assistance for his alleged illegal election to the office of president it shows how very same political parties have become so base and had fallen from the pedestal they were on...even congress in McKinley's time declared, it will take appropriate action if the president failed but today other way, some GOP men talk very funnily, so one needs to see 'are we really mentally advancing or mentally degrading the Nations'? - see American political economy as a battle ground between capitalism and democracy, the decision for empire seemed simply one more illustration capitalism's currently dominant position. American Capitalism is just doing business and expand markets for its surplus goods, but today very same America behaves like china or russia means something went very seriously wrong one can conclude.

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It is sad when a man must deny that he made love to a beautiful woman.

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Assuming billionaire businessman Trump did had sex with this porn actress...

We all know he must have had a GREAT sex life lol this just confirms it!

100% ALPHA MALE BOSS !!! Thank God he's our president!!! Funny as hell watching the FAKE NEWS looking and fingering for his used condoms lol

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It is sad when a man must deny that he made love to a beautiful woman.

It's sad when people use the phrase 'make love' to describe a financial transaction.

Whatever happened between Trump and Daniels, there was no 'love' involved on either side, unless it was self-love (Donny loves Donny) or love of filthy lucre (and it don't come much filthier).

I doubt Donny Boy has ever made love to anyone. Apart from his mirror.

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And I think the reason he does not want to say 'he made love to a beautiful woman', is the fact that he had a wife and a new baby at home when it happened.

Of course, for all we know, he was allowed. Melania hasn't said anything, and seems to be sticking with him, so maybe they had an arrangement, or she just knew/expected it would happen from the start.

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If it never happened, why the non-disclosure agreement?

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Stormy has consensual sex all the time after all she is a “ professional adult movie actress”. She’s had to fake so many sexual encounters on screen it’s a wonder she’s able to remember them all. Like the Christian Bible quotes Jesus Christ “let those without Sin, cast the first stone” on in this instance “let those who’ve never had a casual consensual sexual encounter with anyone other than their hand” publicize it from the mountaintops.

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Does The Trumper always tell the truth? He has never told a lie in His Life?

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Stormy has consensual sex all the time after all she is a “ professional adult movie actress”. She’s had to fake so many sexual encounters on screen it’s a wonder she’s able to remember them all. Like the Christian Bible quotes Jesus Christ “let those without Sin, cast the first stone” on in this instance “let those who’ve never had a casual consensual sexual encounter with anyone other than their hand” publicize it from the mountaintops.

She's not saying the sex was unconsensual. She's just saying it happened, and when it happened. She's also very clear about her being a porn actress. So your entire premise falls apart.

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you guys disingenuously questioning someones acceptance of a CNN poll result - its amusing.

I think Clamenza, like any discerning individual, recognizes that CNN is virulently leftist/liberal and anti-trump, so the fact that EVEN CNN is reporting an increase in Trump's popularity is very significant. And yes, I believe we can safely add several points to those numbers.

Do you get it now?

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leftist/liberal and anti-trump

Can you tell the difference between these descriptions?

Liberals are center-right.

Many leftists support neither Trump nor the Dems.

And some leftists prefer Trump over HRC.

There are few absolutes, when it comes to politics.

Except for politicians lying about where and who they've been sleeping with.

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@toasted heretic, 'there are few absolutes when it comes to politics'.

Well, thankyou for this stunning insight.

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FritzX, LOL!

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