Trump, Putin issue rare joint statement promoting cooperation

The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday issued a bipartisan report concurring with a 2017 U.S. intelligence assessment that Russia pursued an influence campaign of misinformation and cyber hacking aimed at swinging the vote to Trump over his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

Donny’s fans: Now do you believe Russia was interfering in the 2016 election to help your man-child get elected?

This event heralded the decisive defeat of the Nazi regime,”

Salute all nations and individuals involved in defeating the Nazis, the nastiest regime in modern history. A regime even worse than Stalin's USSR. People today who want to further undermine democracies and are pushing national socialist agendas or any other form of authoritarianism must be countered. Using the remaining freedoms allowed by democracies.

Trump had hoped to travel to Moscow to mark the anniversary.

And do what else? Why hasn't Trump come clean about his last face to face meeting with Putin and explained why he won't allow what was said between them to be translated. I thought Trump said (I know, I know - not a word he says can be believed) his WH was going to be the most transparent ever. But given his poor command of English, maybe he doesn't understand what 'transparent' means.

Chip, the pandemic is global and the virus doesn’t care about borders or ideology, it’s time to forget geopolitical rivalries and press forward with international cooperation

The pandemic that you keep downplaying? Why do we need international cooperation if, as you constantly insist, the pandemic isn’t as serious as the experts claim?

If Putin is asking for 'global' cooperation after claiming to be opposed to 'global' movements, after pushing for increased nationalism, that suggests the virus might be hitting Russia hard.

Putin, like Trump and Xi denied the virus was serious (and like both had his global media and social media trolls parrot him) and was late setting up measures to deal with the pandemic. While 'his' people suffered. But probably not his oligarchs. Same in the US and China.

Given the Russian government's 'partial' controls over media, it's hard to know with any degree of certainty what's going on in the Russian Federation and even throughout the Russian Federation's Eurasian Economic Union. What could they be hiding?

Putin, like Trump and Xi denied the virus was serious (and like both had his global media and social media trolls parrot him) and was late setting up measures to deal with the pandemic. While 'his' people suffered. But probably not his oligarchs. Same in the US and China.

Well, the US case is totally different. You had China that downplayed and lied about the deadliness of the virus, you had WHO being in the pocket of the Chinese covering for them and you had the medical experts assure the public that the virus is nothing to worry about, the President believed that as well based on the information, so they all got it wrong and China is solely responsible for not being transparent.

Well, the US case is totally different.

Yes, it is. Donny gutted the CDC, removed the pandemic response people from the NSC, ignored numerous reports saying the US was wore fully under-prepared for a pandemic, downplayed the seriousness of this for two months, and continues to contradict the experts.

I’m not a “Donny fan”. But he is not the authoritarian entity which is trying to lock down the world. I oppose his enemies. So, I support him.

I’m not a “Donny fan”. But he is not the authoritarian entity which is trying to lock down the world.

Nobody is.

I oppose his enemies. So, I support him.*

Sweet “logic.”

But he is not the authoritarian entity which is trying to lock down the world. 

More like a village idiot who is being a village idiot.

I’m not a “Donny fan”.

And that’s ok, that’s your right, there are people that don’t like him and there are people that do, but at least you have a reasonable pragmatic and rational outlook.

But he is not the authoritarian entity which is trying to lock down the world. I oppose his enemies. So, I support him.

I definitely agree with that, the President bares no responsibility for belong lied to by China and the WHO that’s not on him even though as a result he got caught flatfooted, but once everyone was on the same page, he pivoted and made up for that lost time and continues to do the best that he can while China is trying its utmost to cover its track and to erase and dispose of anyone or anything that can link it to this disaster.

Donny’s fans: Now do you believe Russia was interfering in the 2016 election to help your man-child get elected?

Sure, they interfered, not nearly as much as China, but yeah, they interfered. Those Russian Facebook ads were devastating, definitely cost Hillary the election. You believe that, don't you?

One thing is for sure. China sooooo wants Biden to win.

Donald is ignoring the experts now, even contradicting then.

And more Russia-love from Donnie the Dictator - it just never stops. He insults all our friends and allies in Europe, but never misses a chance to laugh and back-slap with his BFF Vlad.

Love letters to Kim, bro-fests with Vlad - we know who Donnie admires...

One thing is for sure. China sooooo wants Biden to win.

Hmmmm. Last time I checked Biden wasn't giving China millions of dollars a year to make his shirt and tie line - with "slave labor" according to one Trump supporter here...

Donald is ignoring the experts now

No, he's not. He listens to them, then makes the decisions he was elected to do.

That's how our system of government works.

Donald is ignoring the experts now, even contradicting then.

So what, listen the person you think fits or appeases your soul when it comes to the best way of dealing with this virus.

And more Russia-love from Donnie the Dictator - it just never stops

But shunning the Iranians is so bad, right?

Hmmmm. Last time I checked Biden wasn't giving China millions of dollars a year to make his shirt and tie line - with "slave labor" according to one Trump supporter here...

Well, I wouldn’t be too sure about that, Biden did say, China is not our geopolitical foe...hmmmm

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051

I definitely agree with that, the President bares no responsibility for belong lied to by China and the WHO that’s not on him even though as a result he got caught flatfooted, but once everyone was on the same page, he pivoted and made up for that lost time

In other words, he screwed it up badly like some other world leaders. Other world leaders acted competently and decisively and didn’t talk about it magically disappearing and injecting disinfectant.

The wheat and the chaff.

In other words, he screwed it up badly

I don’t think he did, Dr. Barbot did for sure, she’s the so called medical professional that said, we should party on. No need to worry.

like some other world leaders. Other world leaders acted competently and decisively and didn’t talk about it magically disappearing and injecting disinfectant. 

Good for them, I just care about the US, whatever the other countries did doesn’t concern me.

All the foolish increasing defence budgets fluttered away on nuclear proliferation, the irony.

When in reality the existential threat is a silent global assassin, devoid of any political morality, or the ability to distinguish right from wrong. Dispensed with ruthless devastating effect, devoid of fear or favor.

A wake up call if the Global Order will ever take heed,

like some other world leaders. Other world leaders acted competently and decisively and didn’t talk about it magically disappearing and injecting disinfectant. 

Good for them, I just care about the US, whatever the other countries did doesn’t concern me.

You said half of your family lives in Europe. Don’t you care about the situation there?

Also, you need points of comparison when assessing how well leaders dealt with this crisis. Trump is in the incompetent column. Leaders bear responsibility - it comes with the job.

You said half of your family lives in Europe. Don’t you care about the situation there? 

Yes, but they’re smart, they have enough food rations and they’re not stupid to go out anywhere in public.

Also, you need points of comparison when assessing how well leaders dealt with this crisis. Trump is in the incompetent column.

I disagree, but I don’t need to compare, different country, size, density population etc.

Again, I could care less what happens in other countries.

Leaders bear responsibility - it comes with the job

That’s what he’s been doing.

@bas4fGood for them, I just care about the US, whatever the other countries did doesn’t concern me.

Strange. I've read some posters repeatedly posting criticisms of Japan's response to the virus.

eaders bear responsibility - it comes with the job

@bas44f That’s what he’s been doing.

Except when Trump says 'I'm not responsible for that', except when he's making 'sarcastic' statements on issues that could affect people's lives as another way to run away from taking responsibility from what he's said.

Anytime he's questioned on a topic he should be responsible for, especially ones he's said he has the 'authority' on, he points fingers away from himself.

Other than giving himself kudos for steroid-ing up the solid economy he inherited from President Obama, what has Trump claimed to have taken responsibility for?

I know he's blaming China for the many problems it's caused, but have he and Ivanka severed their business ties with members of the Chinese Communist Party? In re-checking Google and Yandex, I haven't found any evidence of their doing so.

Since Lil Kim seems to have or is close to kicking the bucket, donny needs to go back to his true love Putin.

A disdain for facts and freedom of the press binds these idiots together.

Not to mention that both these idiots downplayed the virus until it bit them both in the nose!!

And more Russia-love from Donnie the Dictator - it just never stops

But shunning the Iranians is so bad, right?

Shunning? He certainly shunned his "Red Line" to the Iranians, didn't he... Caved, blinked, waffled...

Hmmmm. Last time I checked Biden wasn't giving China millions of dollars a year to make his shirt and tie line - with "slave labor" according to one Trump supporter here...

Well, I wouldn’t be too sure about that, Biden did say, China is not our geopolitical foe...hmmmm

Saying they aren't a foe, versus paying them millions to make his clothes - with slave labor? OK...

Do you agree with the other Trump supporter here that says his clothes are made with Chinese slave labor?

Leaders bear responsibility - it comes with the job

That’s what he’s been doing.

Trump, Mar 13th, 2020: "I don’t take responsibility at all".

https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2020/03/2020-time-capsule-3-i-dont-take-responsibility-at-all/608005/

Strange. I've read some posters repeatedly posting criticisms of Japan's response to the virus

It’s true.

Except when Trump says 'I'm not responsible for that', except when he's making 'sarcastic' statements on issues that could affect people's lives as another way to run away from taking responsibility from what he's said. 

When will people be responsible for themselves, you’re not giving people enough credit to think for themselves. You’re going to stress yourself out too much. Let Trump talk, you can’t stop it, just don’t listen.

Anytime he's questioned on a topic he should be responsible for, especially ones he's said he has the 'authority' on, he points fingers away from himself. 

Especially when he knows the media are trying to bait him so they can run it and say, he admitted it, a Trump haters best dream, that’s another reason why he won’t fall for it.

Other than giving himself kudos for steroid-ing up the solid economy he inherited from President Obama,

He did not inherit a stable economy from Obama, if so, Obama would have lowered the corporate tax rate, give incentives to small businesses and to entrepreneurs, would have been for deregulation and would have been for huge tax cuts to the job providers, he wasn’t even remotely close for anything like that, quite the opposite, if he were, then you can make that sound argument, but he didn’t.

what has Trump claimed to have taken responsibility for? 

He did admit he was slow in the beginning, but that revelation is not good enough for the msm, they want him to bleed.

I know he's blaming China for the many problems it's caused,

As he should since they created this virus.

Donny’s fans: Now do you believe Russia was interfering in the 2016 election to help your man-child get elected?

There is no proof that any election machines were touched by Russia in 2016, so exactly how did they "interfere with the election?"

Only an idiot would use social platforms platforms and believe anything on them without validating it from a trusted source that isn't an echo chamber.

There is no fix for stupid. That's what Mom always said.

Talk to a spook. You'll find they don't use social networks for anything personal and certainly don't trust any of them. They do use social platforms for research to see how gullible people are and the results they publish are frightening.

Trump did something that Obama did with Russia to mark an end to a terrible part of WW2. Seems like a good idea to find any small point of cooperation, since the PSYOPs has clearly been working.

@serranoThose Russian Facebook ads were devastating, 

The Facebook ads placed by Russian state sponsored organizations like the Internet Research Agency plus their and other Russian organization’s ads in NRA, KKK and other publications with readerships made up largely of the intellectually vulnerable might not have been devastating, but were effective in convincing some to vote for Trump. 

I recall several posters on this site parroting the Internet Research Agency’s messages of ‘Hillary's going to start WW3 if she...' And those same posters saying good on Russia for helping Trump. Then later saying they believed the Kremlin’s reports, not ‘western’ intelligence agencies’. I’d say Russian propaganda has been effective in reaching their target audiences.