Trump and Zelenskyy trade barbs as U.S.-Ukraine relations sour over war with Russia

The president went on to say that the only thing Zelenskyy "was good at was playing Biden ‘like a fiddle.’” He advised Zelenskyy to “move fast or he is not going to have a Country left.”

What an absolute moron Trump is in being so easily manipulated by Putin.

Nobody but Putin and Trump calls Zelenskyy a dictator.

That is because it isn’t true. Zelenskyy is popular in Ukraine and elections cannot be held because it against the constitution. But more importantly, how can people vote if the polls are being bombed by Russia.

Putin sees this misinformation as a way to destabilize Ukraine.

And to suggest that Ukraine started the war, shows how easily manipulated Trump is. Putin has him wrapped around his little finger.

The US political system is fundamentally flawed if it can elect a president who is not just a convicted felon but so wrong and misinformed about the most fundamental and critical issues -- while getting away with it. Where is the accountability? At one point will the system force Trump to explain himself, including his belief - and his policies based on that belief -- that Ukraine started the war and not Putin?

The US needs to reform itself after Trump is gone. Maybe adopt the UK parliamentry model. The White House or executive branch has become too powerful and too shielded from accountability. In the UK system, PMs must go in front of parliament and explain themselves on a regular basis, often amid fiery atmosphere. It would never elect a Trump.

Trump has always been a Russian agent Google Trump RT

Trump also called Zelenskyy “a modestly successful comedian” who “talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and ‘TRUMP,’ will never be able to settle.”

The president went on to say that the only thing Zelenskyy "was good at was playing Biden ‘like a fiddle.’” He advised Zelenskyy to “move fast or he is not going to have a Country left.”

Out of all the dangerously idiotic things Trump has ever said, this might be in his top 3. Now let's see if there are still republicans with a spine left who will stand up to him for spewing Russian propaganda.

“ Out of all the dangerously idiotic things Trump has ever said, this might be in his top 3”

trump saying that ukraine started the war might be a top 3.

there are just so many thousands of idiotic things, it’s hard keep track, let alone rank.

This war will be resolved by Trump.

After Biden was manipulated by both Ukraine and Russia and the US has flushed away billions of dollars, only Trump can end this war.

The US political system is fundamentally flawed if it can elect a president who is not just a convicted felon but so wrong and misinformed about the most fundamental and critical issues -

I disagree, the Dems tried every trick in the book and even tried to override the rules and laws, but it all failed, all of it.

- while getting away with it. Where is the accountability?

If you make that argument, then we should say, Federal officials who hide government servers in public restrooms should be imprisoned or getting our ambassador killed or having an affair with an intern, there should be accountability for those actions as well right? Let’s be fair all around and not cherry pick as to who should be arrested or prosecuted for so called crimes.

At one point will the system force Trump to explain himself, including his belief - and his policies based on that belief -- that Ukraine started the war and not Putin? 

He wants an end to this war, it’s destabilizing Europe, Zelenskyy had his chance, we invested billions and the average American is tired of investing into a country that has no future and over ours? We have enough problems of our own, you always take care of home first before you help others.

The US needs to reform itself after Trump is gone.

The way the future looks for the Democrat party, that will take some time, as of now the Dems have nothing.

Maybe adopt the UK parliamentry model.

ROFL!!!

The White House or executive branch has become too powerful and too shielded from accountability. In the UK system, PMs must go in front of parliament and explain themselves on a regular basis, often amid fiery atmosphere. It would never elect a Trump.

Thanks, but if we wanted to be like the UK we would have never left that island. That was the entire reason of leaving. The people each individual should have the absolute control and voice as to who they want to lead them and run the country.

Anyone with half a brain already knew it would end like this, even back in 2022. I've said it consistently. Only the most deluded armchair generals were convinced that Ukraine could ever defeat Russia, or that the US or EU would send their own blood and treasure to die in Ukrainian trenches as the public watches them being picked off by FPV drones.

This nonsense of meddling in Ukraine was always going to end in tears. Europe's economy is in tatters, US invincibility and prestige has evaporated, Russia and China are close allies, the US dollar now carries even more sanctions risk, and small states are recognizing the potential benefits of another multi-polar world.

What an absolute moron Trump is in being so easily manipulated by Putin.

Exactly. "Trump the appeaser." So much for backbone. Put some B-1s into the sky and bomb any non-Ukraine fighters inside Ukraine borders pre-2014. Trump needs a backbone.

That's one condescending moron. The hatred toward the US is growing by the day.

That's one condescending moron. The hatred toward the US is growing by the day.

The average American doesn’t care what the world thinks of it, nor should they.

Putin’s puppy.

There are so many disputes over the legality of Zelensky's stay in power during martial law.The Constitution of Ukraine has regulated the issue of extending powers on the basis of martial law only in relation to the Verkhovna Rada. There is no such constitutional norm in relation to the president. There is nothing in the Constitution of Ukraine that you all claim here! But there is a law in the electoral code of Ukraine prohibiting presidential elections during martial law. Nevertheless, the Office of the President does not apply to the Constitutional Court of Ukraine to clarify this issue. That is, there are doubts that the judge will side with the expired president. In short, hold elections, as required by the Constitution. Period.

Primusinter

There are so many disputes over the legality of Zelensky's stay in power during martial law.The Constitution of Ukraine has regulated the issue of extending powers on the basis of martial law only in relation to the Verkhovna Rada. There is no such constitutional norm in relation to the president. There is nothing in the Constitution of Ukraine that you all claim here!

Actually, there is. It was modified in 2015 explicitly.

there are just so many thousands of idiotic things, it’s hard keep track, let alone rank.

You gotta separate the idiocy by categories.

This one is in the "dangerously idiotic" category, like "Hey let's inject bleach!" or "Can we nuke this tornado?".

Then you have "laughably idiotic", like "Windmills cause cancer" or "The kidney has a very special place in the heart".

And then you have "worryingly idiotic", like "Nobody knows more about (insert any subject) than I do" or "I will just be a dictator on day one".

Etc.

What a War of Words! (pun intended)

Bass4,it obviously Trump care about what people say about him, triggered as usual

Actually, there is. It was modified in 2015 explicitly.

Give us the text.

"rump also called Zelenskyy “a modestly successful comedian” who “talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, "

The US never gave $350 billion.

"Zelensky condemns Trump: Ukraine leader says US President 'is in a disinformation bubble', demanding $500bn minerals 'is not a serious conversation… I won't sell my country', and says Donald has 'helped Putin'"

DJT knows things many are not privy to, especially what has been going on behind the scenes: big mistake to assume otherwise.

Also, aware how irresponsible and dangerous it is not having the world's two foremost nuclear powers not even talking for 3 years – fortunately that reckless policy, which threatened earth, is receding.

Shutting EU and Kyiv out of the peace talks only way toward peace. Both only relevant if the status quo maintained, thus the 'outrage'. Called having one's bubble burst and facing reality.

Which is: sweeping defense budget cuts at the Pentagon coming, US debt out of control, multilateral arms control agreements forecast and more.

You gotta separate the idiocy by categories.

I wonder. I sometimes think it's ALL meant to undermine any normal sense of decency or justice so thoroughly that in the end we can't distinguish between idiocy that threatens us versus idiocy that merely bewilders us. It's all gaslighting.

Bass4,it obviously Trump care about what people say about him, triggered as usual

Well, he should care, the people elected him to be the President of the U.S., NOT Europe!

Ukraine needs to move on and Elect a new Pres.

Certainly Mr. Zelenskyy can NO LONGER lead this once Beautiful and Prosperous nation .

"Zelensky condemns Trump: Ukraine leader says US President 'is in a disinformation bubble', demanding $500bn minerals 'is not a serious conversation… I won't sell my country', and says Donald has 'helped Putin'"

Says the man who’s on a time clock, ok….smh

trump is " retarded "

JJE

DJT knows things many are not privy to, especially what has been going on behind the scenes: big mistake to assume otherwise.

Obviously not because he doesn’t even know what is factual now. In his last term he was known for not reading intelligence briefings.

Also, aware how irresponsible and dangerous it is not having the world's two foremost nuclear powers not even talking for 3 years – fortunately that reckless policy, which threatened earth, is receding.

Not irresponsible. They have the hotline. Russia needs to be considered as a pariah until Putin stops his imperialism.

Shutting EU and Kyiv out of the peace talks only way toward peace

It will do the opposite.

(To continue from 8:02am...)

Great-power-politics 101 - reality of which is power: conflicts in this realm are provoked. One recent cause is the Biden-era fantasy of knocking Russia out of the great powers (or 'inflicting a strategic defeat' on it), then surrounding China: an utter failure which backfired - both now more powerful.

EU made itself irrelevant, militarily and economically, demoting itself into a much lower tier of non-power (UK too). A bigger mistaken assumption: Ukraine was on an equal standing - never was and never will be.

Biden plan for Cold War part II was a disaster, strategically and economically (for the US and its satellites): Trump admin trying to unscramble the mess, correctly knows they need to work with Russia and other great powers to achieve peace and prosperity here and there, which means correcting the underlying causes that provoked it. Diplomacy only way forward by any measure.

Bottom line: an updated and fair global security architecture for the 21st century will be mutually forged between sovereign great powers in a multi-polar world to bring lasting peace and prosperity to Ukraine and beyond.

Such a public temper tantum, I contend respectfully, is unbecoming for the office of President of the United Sates of America.

To treat subject Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky to such disrespectful undignified denigratory, thats intent is malicious, frankly shameful.

To then accuse Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky of instigating this devastating war is contemptable and false.

President Trump was clear “day one”, his own words none the less, his intent to end the war in Ukraine.  

But to openly use "rhetoric" that could be interpreted as siding with Putin agenda could have far reaching global consequences.

However, I am convinced now, beyond any doubt Donald Trump administration presidency policy goal is to reset US relationships with Europe on every level, trade, economic, security guarantees, even NATO role/treaty.   

To suggest, “the US political system is fundamentally flawed” is the actions playbook behaviour of the snivelling sore loser.

Bottom Trump should know better than to criticize his betters.

WoodyLee

Ukraine needs to move on and Elect a new Pres. 

Certainly Mr. Zelenskyy can NO LONGER lead this once Beautiful and Prosperous nation .

He’s doing a wonderful job and his people think so.

This War MUST end one way or another regardless, saving lives and the future of a nation should be any leader top priority. Mr. Zelenskyy had his chance and he could NOT achieve anything but more death and destruction.

Pres. Trump will STOP BOTH.

Trump only cares about his own insecurities

bass4funkToday  07:41 am JST

That's one condescending moron. The hatred toward the US is growing by the day.

The average American doesn’t care what the world thinks of it, nor should they.

Our national security depends on the rest of world not becoming a colony of China/russia.

Bottom Trump should know better than to criticize his betters.

Zelenskyy is not that person…

Trump only cares about his own insecurities

No, more about the American voter

WoodyLee

This War MUST end one way or another regardless, saving lives and the future of a nation should be any leader top priority. Mr. Zelenskyy had his chance and he could NOT achieve anything but more death and destruction. 

Pres. Trump will STOP BOTH.

Not going to happen. Sorry.

Trump has disaffected his allies and abdicated from the usual position of the US president as leader of the free world. But by doing so, he doesn't realise that he loses the crown, and will lose influence.

He also started the "negotiations" by giving in to all of Putin's demands - in other words, there were none - he is just Putin's lapdog.

But that means that again the rest of Europe will need to stand together and stand strong. Russia does not do well in battle and most crucially, will back down in the face of strong opposition. Europe must unite to fight this threat. I

If needs be, its army could crush Russia's, but there is a much higher value placed on human life in the west than in Russia.

wallaceToday  08:01 am JST

"rump also called Zelenskyy “a modestly successful comedian” who “talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, "

The US never gave $350 billion.

"Zelensky condemns Trump: Ukraine leader says US President 'is in a disinformation bubble', demanding $500bn minerals 'is not a serious conversation… I won't sell my country', and says Donald has 'helped Putin'"

Why does anybody even listen to, let alone even acknowledge what this blubbering fool says? trump has long ago shown how undiplomatic and uncouth he truly is, you can't get anything into his stupid thick head.

Zelensky is no fool but now he's going to have to depend on a rump euro-NATO for help, since the Sputnik Donald doesn't believe in NATO. I'm glad at least Zelensky won't quit, he didn't ask for this stupid war - did nothing to provoke it!

ZENJIToday  08:08 am JST

trump is " retarded "

Even worse. He's uninformed, immature, out of touch, arrogant, thick-headed, uncooperative, unqualified and just plain worthless. He is a total lowlife, not worth the time - for anything.

He’s doing a wonderful job and his people think so.

You are wrong! His people don't think so!

If there is strong, sometimes heated disagreement on strategy tactics, this whole process is supposedly to bring about a ceasefire/ end to some of the most devastating hostiles in Europe since the second world war,

Diplomacy demand these are held in private not giving Putin a front row seat.

bass4fun

"Zelensky condemns Trump: Ukraine leader says US President 'is in a disinformation bubble', demanding $500bn minerals 'is not a serious conversation… I won't sell my country', and says Donald has 'helped Putin'"

Says the man who’s on a time clock, ok….smh

So is Trump too who can only serve about 4 years.

Too Sad for words really. The “Leader of the Free World” is no longer the USA. They have relinquished the right to that title.

Trumps negotiating skills? Give Putin whatever he wanted and what in return?

putin’s puppet indeed.

Kuku

He’s doing a wonderful job and his people think so.

You are wrong! His people don't think so!

They do:

https://www.euronews.com/2025/02/19/zelenskyys-approval-rating-grows-to-57-debunking-trumps-4-support-claim

And now they are rallying behind him, after Trump’s remarks.

Another supreme irony - many now condemning Ukraine and EU being sidelined in negotiations, openly celebrated the June 2024 Swiss "peace summit", which completely excluded Russia.

Vance just took a verbal swipe at Kyiv too, who are playing a very hazardous bunker-lined hole.

Rumour has it that envoy Kellogg, mentioned four times in the article, has been relegated to the bearer of bad news, as opposed to broker/decision maker as the diplomatic process moves forward.

Pro-tip to other countries: avoid being a battleground between great powers at all costs.

Zelensky is no fool but now he's going to have to depend on a rump euro-NATO for help,

Good luck with that one.

since the Sputnik Donald doesn't believe in NATO. I'm glad at least Zelensky won't quit, he didn't ask for this stupid war - did nothing to provoke it!

Well, he doesn’t have to quit, his country as well as Russia and more increasingly the U.S. see him less relevant and more like a liability.

Even worse. He's uninformed, immature, out of touch, arrogant, thick-headed, uncooperative, unqualified and just plain worthless.

Yeah, yeah, relax, name calling will not change Zelenskyy’s fate.

He is a total lowlife, not worth the time - for anything.

And this is why he is being sidelined, Putin and Trump don’t need him, they all want an end to this.

bass4funk

And this is why he is being sidelined, Putin and Trump don’t need him, they all want an end to this.

Then there will be no peace treaty without Zelenskyy and Ukraine.

JJE

Rumour has it that envoy Kellogg, mentioned four times in the article, has been relegated to the bearer of bad news, as opposed to broker/decision maker as the diplomatic process moves forward.

Yes, Kellogg was proving to be too competent, so he, and his experience, were relegated in favor of someone who knows nothing about Ukraine nor Russia.

Once again Trump giving everyone clear evidence that he is Putin's Puppet and Lap-dog...

Ukraine is invaded, its school, apartments, hospitals and shopping malls bombed - and it's children kidnapped...

And this Moron criticizes Zelensky and calls Putin a "genius"....

And NO ONE in the former Repub Party has the guts to stand up say "Foul"....

They are all nothing but Putin's useful idiots...

The result of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin negotiating will be the end of the bloodshed and killing in Ukraine.

Let’s remember that this year is the third year of the war.

There hasn’t been any talk of peace from Ukraine nor the EU nor the UK in the interim.

We should all be celebrating that peace is only a few months or even several weeks away

!

"Trade barbs" is an interesting way of putting it.

"Zelenskyy shows the world how to call out Trump for the addled Russian puppet he is, while Trump whines about it and lies through his teeth", while longer, may be more accurate.

Trump has thrown Zelenskyy and Ukraine under the bus to please Putin.

Trump will also throw Europe under the bus.

What’s so surprising is that Trump, who says he wants a peace deal, can’t stay calm and collected for 5 minutes and jeopardizes it in his first play.

Art of the Deal? I don’t think so.

This guy is the worst negotiator ever!

Zelenskyy is absolutely right, and so was Hillary Clinton when she said Trump was Putin’s puppet.

Trump's practically come completely unhinged. He's throwing out blatant lies, knowing that they're lies (but also knowing that he still has enough of a base who will believe them), and in so doing he's just demonstrating how utterly unfit he is to hold the office he holds.

Imagine any other world leader doing this, and imagine the reaction from both domestic and international press, allies, etc. It would be unanimous. It's only due to the decades-long process of dumbing down public discourse in the US that there are still millions of people who will take Trump at his word. You could show them independent polling data on Zelenskyy and they'd simply refuse to accept it.

wallace

Trump has thrown Zelenskyy and Ukraine under the bus to please Putin.

Some negotiator. Putin played him in the first round.

The White House is now on the side of the Kremlin, which is headed by a former KGB spy, after walking away from and slamming the Western democracies. interesting world we're living in.

Reagan: "tear down that wall!" Trump Whitehouse: "No, put it back up again!"

Putin wants all of Ukraine. And Trump is willing to help him take it.

Our MAGA friends are OK with this.

Shameful.

They will also be OK with Russia taking the Baltic states and China taking Taiwan.

The president of America is no longer the leader of the free world.

Putin and Trump don’t need him, they all want an end to this.

What kind of peace treaty can be made when the country that was invaded is not included in the negotiations?

Total surrender?

Unbelievable how easily Putin has manipulated Donald Trump and MAGA. Everyone already knows Donald is a moron, so that’s nothing new. But MAGA self-proclaims that they have “guts” and full of “real men”. Yet they’ll bow down to Putin so easily and fall in line to whatever Trump or any other authoritarian says.

Both domestically and abroad, they don’t even bother hiding the fact that they now embrace authoritarianism. MAGA can drape themselves in as many American flags they want but the truth is, they don’t actually represent American values.

Tsk, “patriots”. What a load of BS.

Russia knows Trump is their trump card and all they had to do is wait. He will cut off military support for Ukraine and then turn on NATO allies. Russia wins.

Just call the current Trump White House the "Kremlin East"....

It's filled with nothing but Putin-lovers and fellow anti-democratic authoritarian wanna-be's...one who goes around giving "Heil" salutes...

They're doing everything to Make America Irrelevant...and Russia Great Again...

kurisupisu

We should all be celebrating that peace is only a few months or even several weeks away

Have you been following along? Do you think Trump can recover from such a blunder?

I don’t.

He is doubling down: DJT is currently speaking at an event in Florida and laying into Zelensky again (Vance and Musk have already piled on).

"Trade barbs" is definitely putting it very, very, very gingerly and mildly.

Sixty-four dollar question immediately going forward: Where does this leave Zelensky and his regime with regards to their chief benefactor?

Too early to say, but this doesn't exactly look good. Europe is not up to the challenge of maintaining a Biden-style policy of perpetual war: lack of everything including money.

If you look at Putin's comments in the article, he has a level-headed assessment (like DJT). He even goes to say Ukraine will be included. But note he didn't mention Zelensky by name when referencing this, which is an indicator of where this could be headed.

One thing for certain: this is a spectacular public falling out between Trump and Zelensky, however one cuts the cake. He even mocked his previous occupation.

The average American doesn’t care what the world thinks of it, nor should they.

Totally disingenuous.

You sure did care about it under a Democratic administration. You used to say the world was “laughing at us”.

Trump is playing dangerous games.

donald ‘chamberlain’ trump is an unarmed man in a battle of wits.

he’s done irreparable damage to the u.s. economy. buyers of american goods are already sourcing non-american products. uncertainty is a deal killer in international trade.

years of meddling in the mideast has achieved nothing. dictating terms to a nation invaded is as good as being the invader. uncertainly in international relations is a deal killer for allies.

turning the civil service into a spoils system again ignores history. president garfield was assassinated because of the spoils system of crony appointments to civil service and that changed the entire system to merit protect from politics.

musk has shown himself to an incompetent hothead,

you are witness to the golden age of corruption. the worst america has ever seen, and only 30 days in.

capitulating to putin on ukraine is not brokering a peace, it’s just plain capitulation.

It's just so sad to see America so weak. Trump has just surrendered America to Russia. Having lived through the Cold War, I can't believe I'm saying that, but that's where we have arrived. Russia is now our 'friend' and the rest of the world is our enemy. I can't believe it. It's just so sad.

Also of note, several FAA employees whose job is to work on early missile defense detection systems in place, such as in Hawaii, were found to have been laid off. That along with our nuclear arsenal at risk, should send alarms. Who will be protecting American's skies?

Trump has thrown Zelenskyy and Ukraine under the bus to please Putin.

So be it

Donald Dumb calling President Zelenskyy a dictator, an unsuccessful comedian, with low poll ratings.

The man is suffering - definitely amongst others from Borderline personality disorder!

Besides, who is he talking about low numbers.

President Zelenskyy's approval rating roughly 60 %, Donald hovering above 40!

The man is only good at insulting, inciting, and dividing.

Reagan: "tear down that wall!"

It is incredible to think how far the Republican Party is from what it used to stand for.

Reagan: "tear down that wall!" Trump Whitehouse: "No, put it back up again!"

Just don’t ask Trump to be involved in the construction of any walls. Absolutely useless at getting it done.

bass4funk

Trump has thrown Zelenskyy and Ukraine under the bus to please Putin.

So be it

Another Putin supporter. Trump sent the message to Putin that it's ok to invade other European countries like Poland or the Baltic States and Trump won't invoke Article 5 of NATO even if the US was the only NATO to do that in 2002.

Another Putin supporter.

Then maybe you should rethink your position?

Trump sent the message to Putin that it's ok to invade other European countries like Poland or the Baltic States and Trump won't invoke Article 5 of NATO even if the US was the only NATO to do that in 2002.

Your point?

Time to get American bases out of all our countries ,they are no longer a guiding force .Weaker and weaker by the day .Russia and China and Brics is the new world order .Trump is in their pockets , sooner we break off with the Yankeee the better

--rump sent the message to Putin that it's ok to invade other European countries like Poland or the Baltic States and Trump won't invoke Article 5 of NATO even if the US was the only NATO to do that in 2002.

Your point?

So you're OK with Putin taking whatever he wants. By force.

Bravo.

Another Putin supporter.

Then maybe you should rethink your position?

How so?

Trump sent the message to Putin that it's ok to invade other European countries like Poland or the Baltic States and Trump won't invoke Article 5 of NATO even if the US was the only NATO to do that in 2002.

Your point?

You missed it...

Time to get American bases out of all our countries ,they are no longer a guiding force .Weaker and weaker by the day

Not us.

.Russia and China and Brics is the new world order .Trump is in their pockets ,

I disagree

sooner we break off with the Yankeee the better.

Good, that means Europe will spend more on defense and less on European bloated entitlements

Well this certainly explains Trump's inability to understand even basic foreign policy facts and knowledge...

"Donald Trump barely knew of Pearl Harbor, was ignorant about the basics of geography and complained the US constitution was like reading “a foreign language”, a new book reveals.

“Hey, John, what’s this all about? What’s this a tour of?” Mr Trump reportedly asked John Kelly, his then-chief of staff, when they took a private tour in 2017 of the USS Arizona Memorial, a ship commemorating the surprise Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor during the Second World War.

During a meeting with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister’s “eyes bulged out in surprise”, the Washington Post reporters claim, when Mr Trump told him: “It’s not like you’ve got China on your border.” China and India in fact share more than 2,000 miles of common border."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-did-not-understand-pearl-harbor-new-book-reveals-what-s-this-all-about/ar-AA1zkY7b?ocid=windirect&cvid=29d1811d9e5d43bfb3276f6d41ba50c6&ei=16

What most of us knew all along - Trump is a mental midget - and now one deep into the throes of dementia...

"US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz announced the two key European leaders will have a seat at the negotiating table after EU leaders raised the alarm over Donald Trump’s handling of the war in Ukraine."

"Just after the second emergency meeting, held in Paris - mainly through video call - with 19 heads of state on Wednesday evening, US President Donald Trump’s national security adviser Mike Waltz announced that Macron and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer are invited to the White House early next week to discuss the war in Ukraine."

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/02/19/french-president-macron-and-uk-pm-keir-starmer-invited-to-white-house-for-ukraine-talks

bass4funk

Another Putin supporter.

Then maybe you should rethink your position?

Do you want me to be a Putin supporter too? Never!

Trump sent the message to Putin that it's ok to invade other European countries like Poland or the Baltic States and Trump won't invoke Article 5 of NATO even if the US was the only NATO to do that in 2002.

Your point?

Trump's games are making Europe less safe.

Trump showing the world he both has no backbone, and he is Putin's bootlicker.

Trump believes an American enemy over his own intelligence agencies, over his nations allies. Trump has caved in to Putin at the first hurdle, now fighting Ukraine on Russia's behalf.

For a supposed tough man he has shown us all he is made of marshmallow when dealing with Putin. Trump is simply unable to stand his ground against a political opponent with decades of experience.

This does not put Trumps America in a good light, it just blows his image out of the water. Trump proving to be disgustingly weak against Putin.

Russia never invaded Ukraine under Trump.

Fun facts: Obama imposed tough sanctions on Russia to keep its expansionism in check. Trump took those sanctions away immediately when he came into office because he's doing Putin's lapodg. This helped Putin prepare his next invasion, which happened under Biden.

Without the first Trump presidency, this war would have never happened.

and less on European bloated entitlements

You know absolutely nothing about Europe and should refrain from talking about it.

trump is a coward and hides behind his wall of maga ludites while puffing his chest and hurling insults.

The US is having their freedom stolen from them and he is trashing any political capital he had.

Sorry little donny but no nobel peace prize for you, I guess Obama will always have one over you.

Zelenskyy has no self-control. He is in no position to speak his mind. Zelenskyy's statements will invariably disadvantage Ukraine and Ukrainians further. Don't bite the hand that protects you.

Trump said yesterday that Ukraine was to blame for Moscow's illegal invasion of the country three years ago.

quercetum

Zelenskyy has no self-control. He is in no position to speak his mind. Zelenskyy's statements will invariably disadvantage Ukraine and Ukrainians further. Don't bite the hand that protects you.

Unfortunately, he had no choice. Putin had already rolled Trump.

US launches nuclear missile to show 'readiness' amid fears of WWIII. The US Air Force launched a hypersonic nuclear missile in the early hours on Wednesday from California. The mission was to demonstrate the ' readiness of US nuclear force.' The missile traveled 15,000 miles per hour to a test range near Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. It completed the 4,200-mile journey in about 22 minutes.

Ukraine needs to move on and Elect a new Pres.

Certainly Mr. Zelenskyy can NO LONGER lead this once Beautiful and Prosperous nation .

Cant hold any serious election while almost 20% of your country is being occupied. Russia wont just allow Ukraine election officials to go around collecting votes from registered Ukrainian voters in occupied zones and without a full vote any result is meaningless. Russia and Trump know this well but they are all about "getting Zelensky". Putin owns Trump lock stock and barrel.

Trump believes Putin because "Putin says nice things about Trump" so that makes Trump automatically trust everything Putin says, no matter how outrageous.

*Putin also added that he was surprised to see Trump showing “restraint” regarding the European leaders who backed his rival in the U.S. election.*

*“All European leaders effectively intervened directly in the U.S. elections,” he said, adding that some “directly insulted” Trump. “Frankly speaking, I’m surprised to see the newly elected U.S. president’s restraint regarding his allies, who have behaved in a boorish way to put it straight.”*

Bingo. Textbook example is Starmer deploying 100s of UK Labor staffers stateside to work with the Harris campaign. There are other examples but that was the most flagrant. Plenty of insults hurled in many forums by Euro politicians, brazenly over many years: too many to list, even with them scrubbing their SM.

Starmer, with his pal Macron, are apparently due in Washington in a few days to see Trump, with the intention of asking him for a 'backstop' for his planned "peacekeeping force". Good luck with that.

Going to be interesting after the public mudslinging that has gone on outlined above. He must be digesting what has gone on with horror.

Zelensky's massive string of spectacular own goals in this: accusing DJT of living in "Russian made disinformation space" (in effect bringing up the Russia-gate hoax). The next is assuming he doesn't have actionable intelligence reports. Third is assuming he could carry on like under Biden. Fourth is not considering possible consequences.

Do you want me to be a Putin supporter too? Never!

Ditto.

Trump's games are making Europe less safe.

Then Europe needs to spend more on defense and less time n 90 minute lunches

Imagine spewing Russian propaganda in forums and comments... and not even getting paid by the FSB to do it. Voluntarily cheering on and supporting a violent dictator. We need a new word to describe this particular category of internet dwellers.

The "Evil Empire" speech was a speech delivered by US President Ronald Reagan to the National Association of Evangelicals on March 8, 1983, at the height of the Cold War and the Soviet–Afghan War. In that speech, Reagan referred to the Soviet Union as an "evil empire" and as "the focus of evil in the modern world.

There is no more soviet union now. However there has been a hot war since 2022. No longer in the cold war era.

Trump is in the wrong side of history. The ghost of Ronald Regan will not treat him kindly as traitor of free world, US constitution and founding fathers of US of A.

During his inauguration, Trump did not touch the bible during oath of office. The reason is he did not believe or took seriously about the oath.

In Russia history, there was a Peter the great who was a conqueror. Putin wants to become Putin the great as well.

Describing Zelenskyy is a dictator and war monger is same as Putin has become a holy saint for Peter the great loving Trump.

After 100 yrs, Trump will become the Trump the greatest who had ended Ukraine war with complete surrendering of Ukraine territory plus some bordering nations.

What a strange turn of events. The US seems to have completely switched sides in this conflict, from defending Ukraine to fully embracing Putins view of the conflict. And now Trump wants to end the conflict by giving Puting everything he wants, take Ukraines resource revenues and strongarm Ukraine into accepting it.

Vance to Munich Security Conference: 'There's a new sheriff in town'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXygfrzbX2s

Macron, Starmer, Olaf Scholz, Ursula von der Leyen simply fail to draw on any political will to bring about change.

Such an opportunity has long gone, all can, and probably just sit haplessly by, watching the "inevitable" unfold in all its panic, right in front of them.

JD Vance speech was more than just a warning

Quite crazy to think that trump is trying to stop a war in which hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have died and people are losing their minds about it?

isn’t trying to stop a war a good thing???

Trump also called Zelenskyy “a modestly successful comedian” who “talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and ‘TRUMP,’ will never be able to settle.”

Definitely a winnable war, the second North Korean troops were involved is when allies should have went in full force. Putin's supporters from the states are cheering because of how the tables have turned. Russia started everything and now the wrong guy is helping them without even being discret about it anymore

Vladimir, Vladimir, wherefore art thou Vladimir?

Vladimir and Donald

The Biden administration has been too cozy with Ukraine, no doubt because of his son's business ties. America has gone above and beyond to support Ukraine but Zelenskyy has done nothing in return. He just keeps asking for more.

Wasn't this the guy who was going to end the war on his first day in office? The sell out of Ukraine is in full swing and the presidency has been turned into a total disgrace. Nothing but disaster ahead. The strings on Trump's back are being controlled by Putin and he's going to continue the selling out of all allies. What a disgrace we have become to the world.

Quite crazy to think that trump is trying to stop a war in which hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have died and people are losing their minds about it?

isn’t trying to stop a war a good thing???

Depends on the circumstances and terms that the war ends on. Their deaths are for nothing if Putin gets what he wants. Putin committed foul play and should be help accountable for his actions. The better outcome is Nato waives Article 5 and gets fully involved in the protection of Ukraine if we are talking about wanting peace.

Zelenskyy is a thorn in all of this, once he’s gone (and it seems to be fairly soon) maybe a real peace settlement will come in some form. Putin was without a doubt the aggressor and he should pay for what he’s done, but in reality that’s not going to happen, he won’t stop until certain concessions are made, Ukraine will never join NATO so let’s get that out of way, Zelenskyy is in no position to make any demands on any level. We won’t send anymore money or bail him out, so his options are limited at best. He needs to make a deal or whatever he can get, he should be smart and save what is left of his country.

Full Event: Trump Mocks Europe For Its Threat To USA Then Gives Big Warning, Days After Vance Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69avj2jczNo

President Trump need first to remove that hat, I think that America is a "great" powerful global democracy, do I really need to be reminded so often?

Secondly to publicly harangue, to proactively humiliate, instead of challenge debate respectfully is unfathomable, it is.

Zelenskyy is a thorn in all of this, once he’s gone (and it seems to be fairly soon) maybe a real peace settlement will come in some form. Putin was without a doubt the aggressor and he should pay for what he’s done, but in reality that’s not going to happen, he won’t stop until certain concessions are made, Ukraine will never join NATO so let’s get that out of way, Zelenskyy is in no position to make any demands on any level. We won’t send anymore money or bail him out, so his options are limited at best. He needs to make a deal or whatever he can get, he should be smart and save what is left of his country.

Spoken like a true collaborator.

"The school bully keeps hitting me in the face and says he won't stop until he gets my lunch money. OK, he started it, but it's better for me to hand over my lunch money so that he understands that hitting people in the face for their lunch money works. The other kids shouldn't help me either because I'm not in their gang. Guess I just have to go without my lunch money".

Zelenskyy is a thorn in all of this, once he’s gone (and it seems to be fairly soon) maybe a real peace settlement will come in some form. Putin was without a doubt the aggressor and he should pay for what he’s done, but in reality that’s not going to happen, he won’t stop until certain concessions are made, Ukraine will never join NATO so let’s get that out of way, Zelenskyy is in no position to make any demands on any level. We won’t send anymore money or bail him out, so his options are limited at best. He needs to make a deal or whatever he can get, he should be smart and save what is left of his country.

Nah, this ain't a take it or leave it game show. His moral compass and pride isn't going to make a deal that involves being cuked over. Zelensky has honor fighting back against the snake in the grass that Putin is. The countries that use misinformation are the weak ones who know if they don't resort to that mess they would have been wiped out before the war even started

*“They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”*

The statement above reveals language impairment. What Trump means by 24 hours is immediately or with urgency.

There are plenty of criticisms. Why "but he said in 24 hours!"

"To throw the baby away with the bathwater" as in DOGE and the bona fide programs and workers who will be gone would have you say: "Huh, what baby? Where is the baby?"

Like or not this carnage war is coming to an end through non other than the great 47th President of the United States, DJT. The era of throwing cash to every problem is gone. Buckle up Zelensky because the ride will be bumpy but at the end peace will prevail.

bass4funk

Zelenskyy is a thorn in all of this, once he’s gone (and it seems to be fairly soon) maybe a real peace settlement will come in some form. Putin was without a doubt the aggressor and he should pay for what he’s done, but in reality that’s not going to happen, he won’t stop until certain concessions are made, Ukraine will never join NATO so let’s get that out of way, Zelenskyy is in no position to make any demands on any level. We won’t send anymore money or bail him out, so his options are limited at best. He needs to make a deal or whatever he can get, he should be smart and save what is left of his country.

Nope, Zelenskyy will stick around.

Trump can say goodbye to his peace deal. He will fail and try to blame Zelenskyy, when it was totally his fault and his incompetence and lack of patience.

Then Europe will step in to save the day.

The statement above reveals language impairment. What Trump means by 24 hours is immediately or with urgency.

And how is over a month "immediately", exactly?

There are plenty of criticisms. Why "but he said in 24 hours!"

"To throw the baby away with the bathwater" as in DOGE and the bona fide programs and workers who will be gone would have you say: "Huh, what baby? Where is the baby?"

"To throw the baby away with the bathwater" is a colloquial expression no person in its right mind would take at face value.

"I’ll have that done in 24 hours." is not a colloquial expression, it's a declaration of intent that only extremely dishonest people would try to turn into some sort of figure of speech.

Putin to Trump . . .

Come here, boy! OK . . . Now roll over! Atta’ boy!

Ukrainians actually wanted to have peace talks with Putin early on, it was westerners who forced them not to do. Here is just one of the evidence: https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/

Your link literally says the opposite of what you are claiming. You just debunked yourself. Good job.

I fully support, my many posts, stating Donald Trump mandated drive for change.

President Putin invasion of Ukraine has brought Europe to another prolonged war.

I don't believe for a moment Putin narrative to adhere to any treaty/peaceful conclusion with its neighbours, not for a seconds thought.

osan

Ukrainians actually wanted to have peace talks with Putin early on, it was westerners who forced them not to do. Here is just one of the evidence: https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/

Zelenskyy didn’t sign the peace deal because he was forced. He didn’t sign because it was a terrible deal. It would have left Ukraine defenseless and would have eradicated the Ukrainian language and culture.

It was the west who triggered this war by fluffing Ukraine with Nato membership (Trump himself said this multiple times).

Nope. Ukraine wasn’t looking to join NATO. Trump is repeating Putin’s lies.

It was the west who made Ukraine to continue the fight (link above). 

Nope. Ukraine decides by itself to fight.

And now suddenly Zelensky became "a dictator without elections" and stole 350 billion from US, on top of all human lives and material damage his people suffered and millions exiled to the west to fulfil western needs of white blue-collar workers. 

Putin is a dictator, Zelenskyy is not. They can’t have elections, because a war is raging.

You don't get a better lesson than this on western ethics. Russia has not only won the war, it also exposed the lack of morals in the west. I hope Taiwan and all other nations learn from this.

Russia has won nothing. They are miles from Kyiv and they have no chance of getting there.

Trump is the best US President in the last 4 decades.

The sad part is Maga believes that. The only thing he is good at is using people as a stepping stool to get what he wants

Zelenskyy is a thorn in all of this, once he’s gone (and it seems to be fairly soon) maybe a real peace settlement will come in some form. Putin was without a doubt the aggressor and he should pay for what he’s done, but in reality that’s not going to happen, he won’t stop until certain concessions are made, Ukraine will never join NATO so let’s get that out of way, Zelenskyy is in no position to make any demands on any level. We won’t send anymore money or bail him out, so his options are limited at best. He needs to make a deal or whatever he can get, he should be smart and save what is left of his country.

Interesting take....

A robber invades your home and kidnaps some of your family - and it's the homeowners fault for not accepting the invasion and end the violence. The robber is at fault, and should pay for what he's done, but in reality that's not going to happen. The police will never respond and assist and besides that's a waste of money. The homeowner is in no position to make any demands or given support to bail him out. He needs to accept the invasion of his home and make a deal for whatever he can get - and be smart and save what's left of his home...and family...

EvilBuddha

Trump is the best US President in the last 4 decades.

All his cult members agree.

Zelenskyy is a smooth talker who is an expert in making other nations shell out dollars by making them believe that Ukraine is fighting on the frontlines for the future of the democratic world order.

Actually, they are!

Nope, Zelenskyy will stick around.

Because you want it so? Yeah, you dream what you want, no worries

Trump can say goodbye to his peace deal.

Zelenskyy can say goodbye to his country and Presidency

Then Europe will step in to save the day.

That would be a first in 80 years, let’s hope for the best

I don't believe for a moment Putin narrative to adhere to any treaty/peaceful conclusion with its neighbours, not for a seconds thought.

Not trusting Putin or Trump is what any reasonable person would do.

bass4funk

Trump can say goodbye to his peace deal.

Zelenskyy can say goodbye to his country and Presidency

Because you want it so? Yeah, you dream what you want, no worries.

Definitely a winnable war, the second North Korean troops were involved is when allies should have went in full force.

I don't see any winners in a direct full on conflict between nuclear armed Russia and NATO.

trump is a bad person.

Spoken like a true collaborator. 

How?

"The school bully keeps hitting me in the face and says he won't stop until he gets my lunch money. OK, he started it, but it's better for me to hand over my lunch money so that he understands that hitting people in the face for their lunch money works. The other kids shouldn't help me either because I'm not in their gang. Guess I just have to go without my lunch money".

Not sure how the school analogy fits into the equation, but, OK……

bass4funk

Because you want it so? Yeah, you dream what you want, no worries.

No, I don’t care one way or another, the only thing I care about is the US, if Zelensky wants to hold on and lose his country that’s up to him

It’s been working well so far.

Putin is far from his dreams of control of Kyiv, but if he can get Trump to do his bidding in search of a peace deal, he’s all for it.

Trump has fallen for Putin’s tricks, and so there’s little chance of peace from Trump.

Not for the majority of Americans

Factually wrong.

He won with simply 49.8% of votes of people who bothered to show up. Of those 49.8%, a good part voted for him knowing he was a bad person, either because they thought he was the lesser of two evils (and now deeply regret it), or because they actually like bad people. If you consider abstentionists, a good part of them by definition decided not to vote because they thought both candidates were bad.

So the majority of Americans does provably think that Donald Trump is a bad person.

“could have made a deal” to prevent it

Could Trump actually be referencing to that one ?

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/1848-unclassified-phone-call-transcript-Trump-Zelensky-Biden/249ed692ce978e413641/optimized/full.pd