Trump backs release of memo alleging FBI abuses

Is that the same Nunes, who March 21, 2017 made a secret nighttime visit (in drag) to the White House? And then, the next day waves his “evidence” that Obama tapped Trump’s phone?

This time, his staff coordinates with the White House to write a partisan Memo discrediting the FBI. And then, he leaks and starts “Release the Memo Campaign”.

Ryan: Release Nunes from his HIC responsibilities.

This time, his staff coordinates with the White House to write a partisan Memo discrediting the FBI. And then, he leaks and starts “Release the Memo Campaign”.

If there was no smoke, why was the deputy fbi stooge forced to resign?

Why didn't any democrat yell bloody murder before a vote was carried out for it's release?

Do you give the republicans absolutely no credit so as to assume they'd push something that could come back to haunt them?

Why is the fbi falling over ask backwards regarding the release and Aren't any revelations into the corrupt machinations of the fbi good for the country in the long run?

CrazyJoeToday  07:32 am JST

Is that the same Nunes, who March 21, 2017 made a secret nighttime visit (in drag) to the White House? And then, the next day waves his “evidence” that Obama tapped Trump’s phone?

Yes. The same Nunes who altered the content of the memo once out of the House Intelligence Committee.

This is how authoritarian regimes get their start. Claim based on false evidence that every check on their power is a political adversary, and once all the checks are out of the way ensure they can't come back. It's amazing how certain posters here complained for 8 years that Obama was an authoritarian because he would one day take away our guns, something he never did, but that doesn't matter because it sounds like something Hitler did, so they wanted to believe Obama was an authoritarian, so they just decided he would do it, even though he never did.

Meanwhile Trump is following the playbook of authoritarians around the world exactly if incompetently, and the same people who were terrified Obama was going to take over are now cheering for the Trump dictatorship with, "Finally, strong leadership!"

If there was no smoke, why was the deputy fbi stooge forced to resign?

At the moment, no one knows the answer to that question except the people who were a part of it. Your phrasing sure makes it seem like you've decided there is only one possible answer though, which is about as silly a concept as anything in this dynamic world with trillions of variables.

Yes. The same Nunes who altered the content of the memo once out of the House Intelligence Committee.

Who told you that? Adam Shiff? Lol

I'm eagerly awaiting to hear from those that say Mueller's investigation is bias because of the number of democrats on his team to start signing the unbiased praise of Trump's lap dog Nunes.

The rule: When it's the other side doing the investigating, the results are inherently bias. When it's our side, the results are inherently credible. Watertight logic.

At the moment, no one knows the answer to that question except the people who were a part of it. Your phrasing sure makes it seem like you've decided there is only one possible answer though, which is about as silly a concept as anything in this dynamic world with trillions of variables.

The question is based on the flow of events. He was forced out right after wray had a look at the memo. Why not previously? If something smells like track covering, it usually is. No matter how much cognitive dissonance might try to convince otherwise.

Trump is putting U.S. institutions into a meat grinder to cover his Russian connections.

Nixon and the Clintons are beginning to look better and better every day compared to this cover-up.

Trump is truly frightened.

Wolfpack: My posts are a direct response to other member's posts. In tone and substance. Certain posters refuse to address the substance of other's arguments by constantly replying in an irrelevant manner. Those posters also constantly use highly-suspect personal anecdotes to support their arguments and deny verifiable facts. They also constantly attack liberals.

I am all for people disagreeing with me if they are capable of explaining why and listening to my points. When they start slinging mud, they better expect to have mud slung at them.

My side of the matter was clearly expressed in my original post: If Mueller's team is biased because it is composed of democrats, then Nunes team is biased because it is made up of republicans Trump sycophants. It's called being intellectually honest.

As Comey says- history will catch up to weasels and liars.

This memo will backfire, trememdously. I've got my supply of popcorn ready.

The question is based on the flow of events. He was forced out right after wray had a look at the memo. Why not previously? If something smells like track covering, it usually is. No matter how much cognitive dissonance might try to convince otherwise.

Maybe he wasn't shy about his dislike of Trump behind closed doors and was pressured to resign to remove any doubt of a biased investigation. It seems like they're being extra careful, but in reality, people can have strong opinions and not let it affect their work. Either way, McCabe was going to retire later this year anyway. If you got a chance to get out of this mess early with full benefits, wouldn't you?

And what about the flow of events on the GOP side? You know they used to be all about intelligence agencies. Nothing suspicious about the timing of their attempts to discredit them now? Just as the investigation is getting closer to Trump himself?

Why didn't any democrat yell bloody murder before a vote was carried out for it's release?

They did, but you probably missed it amidst all the other yelling. The Trump administration provides reasons for Dems to scream murder every other day.

Do you give the republicans absolutely no credit so as to assume they'd push something that could come back to haunt them?

Few things come back to haunt GOP politicians, because GOP voters rarely hold them responsible for anything. Why would they give a crap if their voters don't? Remember when Trump said Mexico would pay for the stupid wall?

Why is the fbi falling over ask backwards regarding the release

Did you read the article? Because the memo is highly biased and rebutting it would require the divulging sensitive information.

Aren't any revelations into the corrupt machinations of the fbi good for the country in the long run?

Yeah, but that's not what's happening. This is the revelation of cherry-picked information that can't be rebutted in what appears to be an attempt to prevent the revelation into the corrupt machinations of the Trump administration.

My posts are a direct response to other member's posts. In tone and substance.

That’s debatable.

Certain posters refuse to address the substance of other's arguments by constantly replying in an irrelevant manner. Those posters also constantly use highly-suspect personal anecdotes to support their arguments and deny verifiable facts. They also constantly attack liberals.

The same holds for the left doing the same to the right.

I am all for people disagreeing with me if they are capable of explaining why and listening to my points. When they start slinging mud, they better expect to have mud slung at them.

It goes both ways.

My side of the matter was clearly expressed in my original post: If Mueller's team is biased because it is composed of democrats, then Nunes team is biased because it is made up of republicans Trump sycophants. It's called being intellectually honest.

The flaw in your argument is quite simple. Democrats for years had a long distrust of the department and many of their tactics involving surveillance and questioned it and were skeptics often of some of the measures they took to obtain information and now all of a sudden that we now know that some top officials in the department have been clearly abusing power, the left is ok with it, they don’t want to hear any inquiries and expect people to trust the department when for years they themselves had apprehensions about the department, we are now supposed to just blindly trust them because a bunch of liberals hate the President? No one is buying it, doesn’t matter what Shiff thinks or any of the other Dems think or the people on JT think, the memo is going to come out and the people have the absolute right to know what our intelligence is doing and how they are dealing with this farce investigation and if the people still think it’s a fair investigation, then fine, if they don’t, then at least we will see how far the corruption has spread and none of the Democrats can stop this and no one in the FBI or DOJ can stop it. If people have a problem with Trump, I don’t have a problem with that, but when a political party works hand in hand with our intelligence agency to undermine a duly elected President, I have a serious problem with that and as they say, “sunshine is the best disinfectant” and Shiff’s efforts to stonewall and to block Nunes from getting any information or getting close or even answering important questions about the investigation or methods used and if the FBI and Shiff and other Democrats were so confident and solid about their tactics, they wouldn’t be panicking about this, absolutely not, but their efforts to stop Nunes and to plead with Republicans not to release this public memo makes one seriously wonder. But soon we shall see and at least, the people will know and can make up their own minds, but we won’t have to make general accusations anymore from this point once it’s out there. Good on Nunes and his efforts for never yielding to uncover the truth.

Stick it to them Mr.President ! Let -the- chips -fall -where -they -may!

Stick it to them Mr.President ! Let -the- chips -fall -where -they -may!

Exactly.

Yes, Mr. president, stick it to them be degraded institutions that form the bedrock of American democracy.

This memo will backfire, trememdously. I've got my supply of popcorn ready

You do know there'll be an IG report coming out later right? I won't gloat. Patience is key.

Mr bum thanks for taking time.

However,

Few things come back to haunt GOP politicians, because GOP voters rarely hold them responsible for anything. 

With the confident fervor, I still feel there's something there. Otherwise they'll come off as complete asshats that care nothing about transparency. Time Will tell.

The worst offender in regards to irrelevant replies and refusal to accept verifiable facts replies. What a hoot.

What supposed facts?

That poster also asserts that "we now know that some top officials in the department have been clearly abusing power" without any evidence.

If there was not a smidgen of abuse the Feds and the leading Democrat Shiff wouldn’t be jumping around like a flea on a dogs back. That’s why Trump doesn’t have a problem talking to Mueller because he feels he has nothing to hide, on the other hand the FBI and Shiff do. Judge Napolitano and others like Law professors like Alan Dershowitz and Johnathan Turley feel the same, we as tax paying American citizens have the absolute right to know what our government and intelligence agency are doing and they need to be transparent and they have not been.

Whether democrats complained about the FBI previouslynis irrelevant to conservative hypocracy in claiming Mueller's team is biased but Nunes' team is credible.

We haven’t been getting any cooperation from the left, Not from Shiff or the FBI, so yes, now it’s time to take another perspective and accurate look since the left don’t think they need to be transparent.

Zero relevance, which is what we all expect from certain posters.

Full and complete revelance

now all of a sudden that we now know that some top officials in the department have been clearly abusing power

That is not fact. That is a Team Trump story line.

for years [Democrats] themselves had apprehensions about the department, 

Prove it. The Justice Department, the FBI, and intelligence agencies have been widely respected by both parties. And still are. It's only a fringe group of die-hard Trump defenders that are pushing this nonsense.

If the FBI and the DOJ were so infested with partisan hacks, why did they spend so much time and energy going after Clinton's emails? If this so-called "deep state" was so in the bag for Clinton, why would they do that?

Once the "memo" is released, it will be found to be full of cherry-picked info that won't stand up to scrutiny. The only people it will convince are Trump and his zealous cult followers. A FISA warrant has to go through numerous levels of screening before it is sent on to be approved by a judge. There is simply no way every person along that process was operating based on nothing but the Steele dossier and a desire to take down Trump.

Unfortunately, this game of obfuscation and distraction will continue ad nauseam.

The question through this all is, what is Trump so afraid of? I suspect it has something to do with money laundering and a cozy network of plutocrats and oligarchs (including you-know-who and you-know-who).

Do you give the republicans absolutely no credit

For acting rationally, no.

For acting tribal or like short sighted politicians, yes.

the memo is going to come out and the people have the absolute right to know what our intelligence is doing 

The FISA court and the process is secret, and the public doesn't have a right under law to know what our intelligence agencies are doing with it. The public only has a right to know what the laws allow, so maybe the public will change it.

I have no issues with Carter Page being tapped and investigated by the FBI, NSA, CIA or any other government agency. Page isn't a victim of cyber stalking by the NSA, FBI, . .

Page is a squirrelly dude who always sought attention and contacts with Russia. There are Russian agents caught discussing calls with Page saying he was stupid for for speaking Russian while they were trying to keep the meetings from drawing attention. Page's activities in the dossier have been confirmed.

I don't know what the current laws regulating the NSA's ability to intercept, but previously, if you had contact with a foreign national, you were susceptible to being wire-tapped. The dissemination of information gathered would be another matter based on content. My guess is that the laws have expanded since 9/11 and collection has improved.

Prove it.

I don’t have to, just wait for the memo, trust me, it’s coming.

The Justice Department, the FBI, and intelligence agencies have been widely respected by both parties.

But for a very long time, the Democrats had certain distrust of the FBI especially after 9/11+during the Bush years as they were skeptical about the practices of the agency possibly spying on citizens.

And still are. It's only a fringe group of die-hard Trump defenders that are pushing this nonsense.

No, the majority of FBI agents are hardworking loyal and great Americans, that was not the issue, the issue was corruption coming from the top senior staff.

If the FBI and the DOJ were so infested with partisan hacks, why did they spend so much time and energy going after Clinton's emails?

How would Comey know in advance that she wasn’t going to be indicted before the investigation was over? Why was she prematurely exonerated and why would Comey make that statement when that wasn’t his to make?

If this so-called "deep state" was so in the bag for Clinton, why would they do that?

Because of the appearance to look as if she’s guilty, but at the last minute deciding no charges need to be filed because she’s going to be President, but they got blindsided. It’s funny with all the physical evidence that surrounded Hillary, McCabe was in charge and oversaw her files and who was his wife again, who are they good friends with? The Clinton’s.

Once the "memo" is released, it will be found to be full of cherry-picked info that won't stand up to scrutiny.

To Trump haters of course not, to the average American, it will

The only people it will convince are Trump and his zealous cult followers.

Not only them.

A FISA warrant has to go through numerous levels of screening before it is sent on to be approved by a judge. There is simply no way every person along that process was operating based on nothing but the Steele dossier and a desire to take down Trump.

Ok, lol that’s the far lefts side take on it, but we shall see if the FISA warrent was obtained illegally as to BS the judge with a convincing lie in order to obtain one. So let’s just wait and see.

Unfortunately, this game of obfuscation and distraction will continue ad nauseam.

For the left I am sure.

The question through this all is, what is Trump so afraid of?

The bigger and real question is what is Shiff and the FBI afraid of?

I suspect it has something to do with money laundering and a cozy network of plutocrats and oligarchs (including you-know-who and you-know-who).

Well, If you feel like that, then maybe we are both right, the left have nothing on Trump and the right have nothing on the FBI and DOJ. And who says we can’t agree on something?

The FISA court and the process is secret, and the public doesn't have a right under law to know what our intelligence agencies are doing with it. The public only has a right to know what the laws allow, so maybe the public will change it.

Uh-huh...

https://youtu.be/aILaFuZB4Kg

https://youtu.be/j_rc9MJUSsk

And finally a very liberal Hillary support

https://youtu.be/viS1S35Z8T4

If the memo wasn’t bad for Dems it would have leaked by now.

Viking: Page's activities in the dossier have been confirmed.

What crime has been confirmed that Page committed that can be used as a pretext for the FBI, under the leadership of a Democrat administration, to ease drop on a Republican presidential campaign?

The bigger and real question is what is Shiff and the FBI afraid of?

They have stated clearly. Schiff (not Shiff) is concerned about the balance in the content of the memo, that it was cobbled together with cherry-picked info by a member of Trump's transition team with a history of goofball antics in obvious partisan service to his lord and master Donald Trump. The FBI has warned that some of the information could compromise security, i.e. impede ongoing investigations.

Donald Trump, on the other hand, has not stated clearly why he is so insistent on badmouthing and/or taking action against Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Rosenstein, McCabe, the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA. If there is, as he says, "no collusion", why would he not just let the investigation run its course and rest easy? Even if the top ranks of the FBI are so horribly compromised (which is pretty far-fetched), there surely are enough reasonable people to check and balance the process and the outcome.

What crime has been confirmed that Page committed that can be used as a pretext for the FBI, under the leadership of a Democrat administration, to ease drop on a Republican presidential campaign?

That the probable cause to issue the warrant may have been based on biased information or a lack of disclosure of information that could show bias, a dossier paid for by an adverse party, shouldn't make the warrant or application invalid. Most warrants are based on information from sources that are totally biased.

Page has a history of speaking with Russian spies and drew the attention of the intelligence services before he was associated with the Trump campaign. He was also speaking with Russian spies while working for the Trump campaign, which was borne out through the FISA wire-tapping.

Is it so hard to believe that Page should have been tracked by the U.S. intelligence services? That he was involved with a Presidential campaign that sought out help from the Russian government to win the election at a time when it was widely known the Russians were helping Trump only increases the need to track Page.

Russian spies were talking to Page = Page was part of the Trump campaign = Trump campaign was being helped by Russian spies. Easy dots to connect, even for a Trump supporter resulting in a Russian spy, Page, Trump sandwich with a couple of sides of obstruction.

The Nunes Memo reportedly alleges that at least a dozen FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors fabricated evidence, engaged in a criminal conspiracy to commit perjury, lucked out on being randomly assigned Judge Low Blood Sugar who looked the other way, and — coincidentally — ended up obtaining evidence that justified extending the initial FISA surveillance. ...

If Nunes has in fact singlehandedly uncovered this vast criminal enterprise, it’s hard to know what’s more astonishing: That a government bureaucracy managed to pull it off — or that Nunes has exposed it all in a scant four-page memo.

Yale Law professor Asha Rangappa

Is this the same Nunes who received a nice little million dollar land deal?

The memo won't change much of anything. Trump fans will still think Trump, a known scammer and proven liar, is an honest man. And they will still believe the Republican leadership at the FBI and DOJ are corrupt and out to get Trump.

Remember, these are the same people that brought you Pizzagate.

I wonder what liberals will say if the memo says Bernie was spied on too.

There is no collusion period with President Trump, but there’s delusion of collusion with Democrats.

It's no wonder that conservatives don't care that Nunes' memo omits material facts given their absolute lack of concern for facts.

Here's a hint, my conservative friends: material facts are necessary for a corrext understanding of anything.p

It's hilarious reading conservatives frothing at the mouth with excitement that this hyper-partisan, semi-accurate memo will be earth-shattering. Even funnier will be reading conservatives ranting on and on about how earth-shattering the memo is after it's released and someone reads it to them.

If the memo wasn’t bad for Dems it would have leaked by now.

Airtight logic.

Here's a hint, my conservative friends: material facts are necessary for a corrext understanding of anything.p

We must have similar conservative friends.

But I do have one friend who listens to Rush Limbaugh and who talks about mind numbing conspiracy theories until I have to ask him to change the subject. One common ground, no one in either GoP or Dem primary was worth a shite.

Oh my...

The Atlantic Finally Gets It: No Way Mueller Indicts Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsNAnKisdkc

I  wonder what liberals will say if the memo says Bernie was spied on too.

They might wonder why the Repubs voted recently for expanded FISA powers while attacking FISA.

They might also wonder which version of the memo will be released - the one Repubs voted to release or the edited version. (This might be illegal.)

In addition, they might wonder why the Dem rebuttal memo was denied release by the Repub majority on the panel.

Yes, Black: There are many wondrous things.

All brought to us by Nunes, the guy whose first stunt failed so spectacularly he had to recuse himself from the investigation.

Russian bots are waiting to see which new GOP hashtags to promote.

Russian bots are waiting to see which new GOP hashtags to promote.

Funny yet Sad because true.

We do have a few headlines from Axios:

The Russian oligarch list has little value for sanctions

Trump has delegated Russia sanctions to subordinates who just copy-pasted well-known material as if to say "Nothing to see here."

Lawyers for Rick Gates withdraw

No reason for lawyers to surround a guy who's gonna spill his guts anyway.

Rising White House fear: Nunes memo is a dud

Of course it's a dud. Look at the history of Nunes. There is nothing he's done over the last few years that hasn't been borderline illegal or totally embarrassing - or, more often, both. Whether his constituents, hard-scrabble central California farmers, choose to continue funding his follies from this fall will be interesting to see.

They have stated clearly. Schiff (not Shiff)

Whatever.

is concerned about the balance in the content of the memo, that it was cobbled together with cherry-picked info by a member of Trump's transition team with a history of goofball antics in obvious partisan service to his lord and master Donald Trump.

Shiff is only concerned about Shiff and how he looks, this is totally absurd, he’s not a dumb guy.....sorta...but he knows he’s making it a political issues, these thugs are so scared that this memo is coming out, he tries to spin a lie that the memo was altered in the hopes and attempt that the memo would not be released and it didn’t work, so up the rhetoric CYA and demonize the report and hope that Trump haters latch on and take the kook aid.

The FBI has warned that some of the information could compromise security, i.e. impede ongoing investigations.

Uh-huh, so now all of a sudden we should take their word because they say so or that Shiff says so? Get real.

Donald Trump, on the other hand, has not stated clearly why he is so insistent on badmouthing and/or taking action against Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Rosenstein, McCabe, the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA. If there is, as he says, "no collusion", why would he not just let the investigation run its course and rest easy?

He is Mueller is still there, but since we know this entire investigation is complete farce, now we will be able to see by tomorrow or within the next few days how the Democrats and Hillary and even possibly the Obama ministration have tried 12 be nice the FBI and the DOJ to illegally spy on incoming administration. These people said that they have nothing to hide, OK if that is so, then they should be as transparent as possible and allow the public to see what their tax dollars are going to.

Even if the top ranks of the FBI are so horribly compromised (which is pretty far-fetched),

No, it’s not.

there surely are enough reasonable people to check and balance the process and the outcome.

And So we shall see.

Is this the same Nunes who received a nice little million dollar land deal?

The Clinton’s received 100 times as much.

It's hilarious reading conservatives frothing at the mouth with excitement that this hyper-partisan, semi-accurate memo will be earth-shattering.

Of course, because then we can see the players and more less specifically who was the person that sort all this nonsense farce.

Even funnier will be reading conservatives ranting on and on about how earth-shattering the memo is after it's released and someone reads it to them.

I think Its Funny watching Democrats and all the Trump haters sweat that this could be the end of this stupid investigation or severely tarnish it.

This conservative conspiracy theory about the FBI's top echelon being corrupt may begin to rival the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Conservatives sure are repeating the mantra loudly and steadily enough.

Funny, I'm reading the same posts as everyone else and haven't read any democrat/liberal/Trump Hater express concern for Mueller's investigation because of the memo.

So whilst the US falls into disarray, it seems the only winners here are the Russians. Perhaps they were the ones that seeded the initial belief that the Republicans were in bed with some foreign power ?

Material fact is a fact that is important, significant or essential to a reasonable person in deciding whether to engage or not to engage in a particular transaction, issue or matter at hand. ... The term material fact is also used to distinguish the unimportant or trivial detail.

So its basically the reason something was done that make you feel that is was ok to do it even if its wrong or criminal.

Accusation: The FBI spied on Trump Material fact: Its ok because Trump is a stupid, lying, orange dotard.

Accusation: A fake dossier was used to start the Mueller investigation Material fact: Thats ok because Im sure he did something wrong because he is a stupid, lying, orange dotard. Even if there wasnt a dossier something else would have eventually started the investigation.

See how this works? Any crime can be excused away with a "material fact"

I am going to die from laughter if this memo proves Trump was spied on in Trump Tower by Obama “department of justice”.

I’m sure even if so, a convenient “material fact” can be created as to why it was ok.

Comey's just tweeted his two cents:

All should appreciate the FBI speaking up. I wish more of our leaders would. But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liars never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy.

Yup: I've yet to see a "Joe McCarthy" named street, school, or airport. Fresno's not a populated place, and its streets tend to be expansive, dusty affairs, but I suspect we'll never see anything named after Nunes.

Nice assuming what material facts have been omitted from this memo.

No crime can be explained away by a material facts. Omission of a material fact can get a case dismissed. Yikes.

The material fact omitted were that all this was done to Trump. so whatever it was isnt a crime.

We don’t like him, we wanted Hillary as president so obviously he deserved to be spied on, lied about and have an investigation opened against him.

Ok so no crime can be explained away by a material fact. So why does it matter if material facts are missing?

They either lied to get a warrant or didn’t. Illegally spied or didn’t. Wiretapped him or didn’t. Paid for dossier or didn’t. Dossier is fake or not. Why do I need material facts if I have actual proven facts?

What if memo says James Coney leaked a classified memo to his friend to start this whole special counsel. That’s a crime. Does he go to jail? Or does a material fact explain why it was “ok” for him to commit this crime and everything is cool?

What if memo says James Coney leaked a classified memo to his friend to start this whole special counsel. That’s a crime

Ahh, the 'what if game.' What if Trump robbed a bank? That's a crime. What if Trump defrauded investors? That's a crime.

What if Trump sexually assaulted women? What if he told lies? What if he practiced racial discrimination? What if he or is team knowingly colluded with Russia?

Oh, wait...

seems Schiff just mad he couldn’t add an excuse after each crime, whatever they may be. Heard his memo is 10 page response to 4 page memo so 6 pages of excuses? It’s definitely not 6 more pages of crimes.

Liberals love explanations to justify why it’s ok to mistreat the orange dotard. I want facts. I don’t care if someone didn’t “intend” to do something if proving intent isn’t part of the law.

Yo, Black, calm down. The truth will eventually emerge regardless of whatever adjective you choose to modify "fact." In fact, concern regarding facts are why Trump is so concerned about releasing the Nunes memo.

Yep we will have a list of crimes and criminals by this time tomorrow. Then people can start justifying why those things aren’t crimes in their mind or explaining why those things were necessary to do even if f illegal.

Then once that happens you can never complain again if someone does the same to “your guy”.

Liberals love explanations to justify why it’s ok to mistreat the orange dotard. I want facts. I don’t care if someone didn’t “intend” to do something if proving intent isn’t part of the law.

You've got no idea whether Donny is being mistreated. None. Donny has lived his whole life amongst a shady cadre of characters and now it seems its all finally catching up to him. Cry me a river.

@laguna yeah of course you are right. It will all come out now and I really hope all of it is a lie that our government would abuse its power like that. But if they did, I don’t want people explaining it away just because of a Trump hate.

The memo is a blatant and transparent attempt to pervert justice and will be seen as such. Only co-conspirators can possibly defend it or its release. Luckily it will not succeed.

Oh ok so you have already justified in your mind that he deserves anything illegal that was done to harm or falsely accuse him. Then the contents of this memo are irrelevant to you.

For me I would prefer the memo is a bunch of ridiculous nonsense that isn’t true. The alternative is really bad for our country and our freedoms. But if it’s bad it has to be dealt with not ignored. So let’s see. You guys have a good weekend.

For me I would prefer the memo is a bunch of ridiculous nonsense that isn’t true.

Good. You won't be disappointed then.

Oh ok so you have already justified in your mind that he deserves anything illegal that was done to harm or falsely accuse him.

No, I'm saying Donny has surrounded himself with criminals for years, he's had mobsters buy property from him. He's delivered developed properties with convictee felons.

That he has not gotten caught yet is a minor miracle in and of itself. Now, it seems these illegal dealings are finally catching up.

NOT some sort of witch hunt. Donny's fraud chicken are coming home to roost, and members of the GO like Nunes are freaking out.

No way is Nunes trying to clean up the FBI.

When the Russian bots are multiple posting you know that backsides are twitching at Team Trump.

As per the only sane reporter at Fox "news" Shepard Smith rightly states, the memo is nothing but "a weapon of mass distraction"....:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7BvC4MpeI

Black, you're falling into the trap that was designed for people just like you.

Pay attention: Russia hacked the US election in ways which have not been completely explained. Many around Trump's circle have either been charged with or have pled guilty in association with this.

Now the attacked are attacking the attackers. There is no problem with this except that it will not work. You can continue with your semantics, and I can continue parrying them, but in the end, it is the law that matters, and if you think the 3 3/4 worth of revisioned pages Nunes has submitted amounts to more than a hill of beans - well, you're in the same boat as Trump. And that is certainly one boat not to be in.

This conservative conspiracy theory about the FBI's top echelon being corrupt may begin to rival the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Conservatives sure are repeating the mantra loudly and steadily enough.

I see. Ok, so I’m your humble opinion, let’s say this, the FBI are as guilty as Trump, there you go.

The material fact omitted were that all this was done to Trump. so whatever it was isnt a crime.

We don’t like him, we wanted Hillary as president so obviously he deserved to be spied on, lied about and have an investigation opened against him.

The real reason why the Dems and libs don’t like this was, this is their only chance to possibly rid themselves of the President and a lot is on the line, they’re nervous because they don’t know how far this goes and it could further jeopardize an already tainted witch hunt investigation. I’m not expecting anyone to go to prison, but to out these thugs and using Chicago ghetto tactics to undermine the President is so grossly abhorrent and disgusting that these top echelon leaders are besmirching the department is demoralizing.Cant wait until they come out.

As per the only sane reporter at Fox "news" Shepard Smith rightly states, the memo is nothing but "a weapon of mass distraction"..

Shep is sane when he goes after Trump, but insane if he didn’t. You guys are hilarious! Lol

I'm guessing Wray isn't looking forward to today. If he defends the FBI then he will be branded as yet another corrupt Republican in the justice system, a list that seems to grow longer by the day. If he doesn't defend the FBI then he will have his staff to answer to.

I'm guessing Wray isn't looking forward to today. If he defends the FBI then he will be branded as yet another corrupt Republican in the justice system,

Hey, even Republicans can be corrupt sometimes.

a list that seems to grow longer by the day. If he doesn't defend the FBI then he will have his staff to answer to.

From what I’ve heard, a lot of agents in the bureau aren’t happy with Wray and want a change within the agency.

Trump ripping America apart at the seams...

No, it was the last President that put on on this trajectory of identity politics and hate. The left hate Trump and would like nothing more than to see him fall. I hope they all quit or go to jail. This has nothing to do with collusion or the Russians, this has everything to do with the FBI and the DOJ doing ever.ything within their power to get Trump out of office and interestingly, if Hillary had won, we would have never known about none of this. It’s as almost as if Hoover woke up from the dead.

talk about fake news this memo is nothing more than a distraction and going by his supporters on this site its working well..

You think it’s fake news, fine, but the FBI and DOJ and Schiff are not happy at all with this and it’s funny, you’d think they would want to know what’s going on and would welcome this revelation.

Lets see what Muellers so called witch hunt comes up with...its all going to come to one bit bang baby.

Yes, let’s see.

But something you might want to ask yourself, bass, is how did so many corrupt Republicans made it to the top levels of our government.

If your positions are to be believed.

But something you might want to ask yourself, bass, is how did so many corrupt Republicans made it to the top levels of our government. 

Part of the establishment elite and that covers both parties, but of course you have more corrupt Democrats establishment elites than Republican elites that hate Trump, but make No mistake, there are a few twisted Republicans.

If your positions are to be believed.

Im always fair.

so out of the 35,000 FBI agents how many aren't happy with Wray?

From what I heard a lot, Sorry, but I didn’t ask for a headcount.

The Memo is out. Turns out that the FBI and Obama DOJ knowingly used opposition research funded by the DNC/Hillary campaign to fool a Federal judge into spying on the Trump campaign.

Corruption of the highest order. Watergate just got one upped by Hillary.

Yep, the memo is out. Looks like a nothingburger. It will get some play in the conservative media, might be used to fire Rosenstein, but that's about it.

Looks like a nothingburger.

Imagine if rogue agents in the Bush led FBI used a Republican political opposition research ‘dossier’ to initiate surveillance of the Obama campaign in 2008. I doubt you would think that was a nothing-burger. Worse still Hillary and the DNC paid the Russians to play a role in their corruption.

Time to get out the Dems memo and ultimately make public the underlying intelligence used to spy on an American presidential campaign on behalf of the party in power.

The imagination game is fun.

So looks like Trump Jr. and Hope Hicks will be next up for Mueller. This is where things really get interesting.

WOw... that’s it?! Geez. The Big Mac of nothingburgers. That’s got to be the most anticlimactic « reveal » ever. Must be banking on their base being dumb enough that they could literally say anything and they’d take it as a revelation.

The fall out from this should be good.

Time to appoint a second special prosecutor - for Hillary’s collusion with the Russians. ;-)

I think most people are assuming the fallout will be Rosenstein's firing. Yep, yet another corrupt Republican working against Trump. Seems to be a pattern.

Someone new will get in there. He will either work to obstruct the investigation, or, wait for it, he's corrupt and working against Trump.

Yep, the memo is out. Looks like a nothingburger. It will get some play in the conservative media, might be used to fire Rosenstein, but that's about it.

That’s the main idea, the memo is to embarrass, expose and to show that the left lied all along and that this investigation is a total farce, now the people know and can see and think for themselves. No one was thinking the left are going out in cuffs that was never the intent. Now the left can stop with the BS that this is about Russian collusion, it’s always been about undermining and getting rid of the President.

So looks like Trump Jr. and Hope Hicks will be next up for Mueller. This is where things really get interesting.

It sure does. Looks like Rosenstein is probably the next one to get his walking papers.

I think most people are assuming the fallout will be Rosenstein's firing. Yep, yet another corrupt Republican working against Trump. Seems to be a pattern.

It doesn’t matter, the Washington establishments are made up from both parties, so when both sides work together.

Someone new will get in there. He will either work to obstruct the investigation, or, wait for it, he's corrupt and working against Trump.

Or maybe he’ll be honest and know this whole investigation is and always has been a farce. But at least we know the FBI under its current leadership is corrupt as can be.

It sure does. Looks like Rosenstein is probably the next one to get his walking papers.

If Comey, Rosenstein and the others knew that the dossier was paid for by Hillary’s campaign and in fact used this political document to get a Federsl judge to sign off on a wire tap of someone in the Trump presidential campaign, then this is nothing short of Watergate level corruption. Someone needs to go to jail.

If Comey, Rosenstein and the others knew that the dossier was paid for by Hillary’s campaign and in fact used this political document to get a Federsl judge to sign off on a wire tap of someone in the Trump presidential campaign, then this is nothing short of Watergate level corruption. Someone needs to go to jail.

That is precisely why the mama was released, in part to Paris the FBI show that the FBI basically made up this false story and Cassie in order to try to get a duly elected president out of office. It wasn’t meant to get someone locked up, it was meant to expose the FBI under its current administration as a bunch of corrupt officials In order to get a FISA warrent to illegally spy on the incoming. This goes beyond Trump, discussing that the FBI currently under leadership is beyond corrupt and will lie in order to investigate anyone they see as a threat and that includes every American citizen.

Hahaha, that's the memo the Pubs were getting all wet in the panties over?

Wow, that must have been a letdown. And they're still trying to frame it like it means something.

Worse still Hillary and the DNC paid the Russians to play a role in their corruption.

When can we expect Hillary's arrest over this?

Someone needs to go to jail.

Hillary. What is Trump waiting for? It's not Hillary's fault if Hillary doesn't get arrested. It's Trump's fault.

how low and dirty the T party can go?

As usual, any comment that doesn't outright bow down to the democrat party gets downvoted into oblivion.

Holding law enforcement to, at the very least, the standard of the law be damned, apparently.

It should not matter what party you support, something the FBI is doing and has done is dirty and the laundry needs to be aired. The public deserves to know what happened and whether or not there really was criminal intent behind the FBI's actions. It doesn't matter whether you are a democrat, republican other, or somewhere in between. The FBI is supposed to uphold the law. All these panicky resignations and protests about the release of memos stinks.