Their second head-to-head debate was cancelled, but Joe Biden and Donald Trump will hold separate town hall events at the same time instead Photo: AFP
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Trump, Biden plan dueling town halls instead of scrapped debate

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By Ben Sheppard

Donald Trump and White House challenger Joe Biden will duel for airtime in rival televised town hall events Thursday night, after their second head-to-head debate was scrapped following the president's Covid-19 diagnosis.

Trump set up the scheduling clash by organizing his own town hall on NBC at the same time as Biden had arranged his event on ABC.

The president, a former reality TV show star and a keen follower of viewing figures, will be seeking to score a victory over Biden by attracting a bigger audience during the primetime 8 p.m. slot.

The two were meant to have met on stage for their second debate on Thursday in a town hall format where the two candidates would have fielded questions from voters.

Debate organizers said they wanted to switch to a virtual format for safety reasons after Trump contracted the coronavirus, but he refused.

The president, who will be at the Perez Art Museum in Miami for the one-hour show, has 20 days left to overturn dire polling figures to win the Nov 3 election and secure a second term.

Biden, who had already booked his appearance last week, will be in Philadelphia for his town hall as he tries to secure his front-runner status.

NBC said it had received a statement from the clinical director at the National Institutes of Health, Anthony Fauci, that there was "a high degree of confidence" that Trump is now "not shedding infectious virus."

Trump and the NBC host will be socially distanced at the outdoor venue and the audience will wear safety masks, NBC added.

Biden has been frequently testing for coronavirus and reporting negative results since Trump's Covid-19 diagnosis on October 1.

The first of three scheduled presidential debates was widely criticized for descending into an angry shouting match as Trump attempted to inflict a late wound to Biden's campaign.

At a rally in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, Trump accused Biden of "choking like a dog" during the debate, and unleashed a tirade of lurid insults at his challenger, calling him mentally "shot."

"He can't stand up to the lunatics running his party," Trump told the large, raucous crowd in Johnstown.

Furthering his long-running narrative that 77-year-old Biden is too frail for the presidency, Trump, 74, tweeted a crudely faked picture purporting to show Biden in a wheelchair.

The attack came as Biden stepped up his own courting of the important elderly vote, telling an event at a retirement center in Florida Wednesday that Trump has "never been focused on you."

"His handling of this pandemic has been erratic, just like his presidency has been," he said.

The coronavirus has claimed more than 215,000 lives in America, with Trump himself hospitalized for three nights after testing positive -- derailing his campaign in the crucial last weeks of the race.

A RealClearPolitics average of national polls has Biden up by 9.8 points, with the Democrat leading Trump by substantial margins in half a dozen key battleground states.

Determined to turn the tide as he hits the ground again this week with back-to-back rallies, Trump's next campaign stop is Des Moines, Iowa later on Wednesday.

"Iowa has been ravaged by the coronavirus pandemic," said a statement from Biden.

"But President Trump isn't coming to the Hawkeye State to offer words of comfort to those suffering... he's here to spread more lies about the pandemic and distract from his record of failure."

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Trump, 74, tweeted a crudely faked picture purporting to show Biden...

Showing yet once again how dishonest and nasty Trump is.

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The president, a former reality TV show star and a keen follower of viewing figures, will be seeking to score a victory over Biden by attracting a bigger audience

He may succeed in drawing a bigger audience, as his provocative and unhinged rants are more “entertaining”. But he won’t expand his base. Those choosing to watch will be there for the show, whether in cultish ecstasy, or in horror.

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Plastic: Enough said.

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I'd bet my last dime Trump's townhall gets more participants and viewership than Biden's.

A lot more.

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I'd bet my last dime Trump's townhall gets more participants and viewership than Biden's.

I think you’re right.

The Nuremberg rallies were pretty popular in their day too. Society of the spectacle.

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Let’s see if the questions from the audience are screened.

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I don't understand NBC's scheduling, why couldn't they have done it on another day? Separate day scheduling would have allowed Americans to see and hear both candidates; they just played straight into trump's playbook.

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He’s not doing himself any favors.

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Maybe that's what he wanted to get from the beginning?

No direct meeting and debate, but in front of his followers.

He needs it, those worshipers who still don't understand!

Insulting, denying, refusing, blaming, distracting .... and so on.

He's so good at this!

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The majority of Americans will take incipient dementia any day over full-blown narcissism and the megalomania of a psychopathic clown. Thanks to his presidential Obamacare Trump may have dodged the bullet, but Covid is a regular attendee of tRump's campaign rallies of the faithful and ultimately it's going to grab him by the ballot.

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Dumb and Dumber. It does not matter who wins. You are never never if you think it will make any difference.

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Trump is like a drowning man, he is desperate, and will grab at anything eventually dragging any and everything down with him

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Poll after poll show Trump getting spanked badly by Biden.

These are the last dying days of a failed presidency.

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Trump's personality is disintegrating, the man's in serious trouble.

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A RealClearPolitics average of national polls has Biden up by 9.8 points

Yeah. We see how many people come out to Trump rallies and how many people come out to Biden rallies.

Many people either don't talk to pollsters or give false information because they believe the pollsters are creating doxxing lists or attack lists for Antifa/BLM to strike. Or they just hate the pollsters on principal.

Trump-Pence 2020 landslide!

The majority of Americans will take incipient dementia any day over full-blown narcissism and the megalomania of a psychopathic clown. 

So you admit your candidate had dementia. And you still support him over Trump, who not only hasn't got us into any new wars, he's getting our troops out of the Middle East, to have the nuclear codes. And you want Harris to have the nuclear codes? Dayum!

I'd bet my last dime Trump's townhall gets more participants and viewership than Biden's.

I think you’re right.

The Nuremberg rallies were pretty popular in their day too. 

You're saying Trump is Hitler. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Trumpy clown wanted the in-person debate to play his well known dirty tricks..

Are you kidding? The next moderator was a former Biden intern. And at least Trump didn't wear a wire. Oh, maybe it was just a loose thread. We'll probably never know.

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The trump fans are flailing hard and early.

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What a dumb idea, forcing people to choose. I guess Trump thinks people and the media will focus on the ratings more than the content?

Is that his goal here?

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Furthering his long-running narrative that 77-year-old Biden is too frail for the presidency, Trump, 74, tweeted a crudely faked picture purporting to show Biden in a wheelchair.

The quality of his trash memes is dropping. He should have appointed a member of his family to his cabinet to create funnier trash.

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Trump accused Biden of "choking like a dog" during the debate, and unleashed a tirade of lurid insults at his challenger, calling him mentally "shot."

There used to be a dance called the Limbo. The point was to get beneath a bar that gradually got set lower and lower.

Trump would've been a natural.

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Has mud wrestling been ruled out then?

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I'd bet my last dime Trump's townhall gets more participants and viewership than Biden's.

I think you’re right.

The Nuremberg rallies were pretty popular in their day too. 

You're saying Trump is Hitler. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Serrano

I don’t think he’s saying Trump is Hitler. He’s just saying Trump is a wannabe and is using the same tactics.

Trump-Pence 2020 landslide defeat!

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Honestly, I don't care to watch either of them. We already know what we're getting from both of them.

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Determined to turn the tide as he hits the ground again this week with back-to-back rallies, Trump's next campaign stop is Des Moines, Iowa later on Wednesday.

There is a billboard outside the airport saying 'Trump Covid Superspreader event'.

Reflects the mood of the country!!!!

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Trump, 74, tweeted a crudely faked picture purporting to show Biden in a wheelchair.

That'll go down well with elderly supporters.

He's really messed up this time.

Clearly, he sees being disabled as a weakness.

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Trump ran from the debate, and now he's having another diaper disaster because people are calling him out.

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Donald Trump and White House challenger Joe Biden will duel for airtime in rival televised town hall events Thursday night, after their second head-to-head debate was scrapped following the president's Covid-19 diagnosis.

Well, one will be a typical political rally....

The other will be a domestic bio-terrorism event...

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The MSM Biden people, the Democrats AND World MSM Cabal KNOW that through real Internal Polling Trump will win by a Landslide and is WAY in front. BUT as they have been Lying about Trump for 4 years they continue to Lie. Everything they accuse Trump of Doing is what they actually Did.

The Democrats though through theire Tens of Millions of Ballots Illegally sent out, for DODGY Mail in Ballots for Democrat EXTRA Votes KNOW they can only win by Cheating with about 80 Million Illegal Votes.

They did the same in the Previous Election with their Cabal Icon Leader Clinton. ALL Lies.

They are doing it agian and said they will NOT except the Election Result.

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These are the last dying days of a failed presidency.

We've been hearing that since 2016.

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Trump ran from the debate, and now he's having another diaper disaster because people are calling him out.

Why agree to a virtual debate where the moderator can cut off your mic and won't press Biden when he dodges questions?

Time to get rid of this partisan commission that runs the debates.

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So the “bi-partisan” commission cancelled the in person (and virtual) debate and now both candidates will hold a town hall event. What?

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Why agree to a virtual debate where the moderator can cut off your mic

So that the American public can hear what the other debater is actually saying.

and won't press Biden when he dodges questions?

Your guy's answer to "should abortion be illegal" was "we killed General Soleimani".

Time to get rid of this partisan commission that runs the debates.

There is no partisan commission that runs debates.

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Bob Dole, of all people, would like a word with you.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bob-dole-donald-trump-presidential-debate-commission-elections-2020-10

Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole, the 1996 GOP presidential nominee, said that he's "concerned" about anti-Trump sentiment among members on the Commission on Presidential Debates.

On Twitter, Dole suggested the commission was "biased" and might not treat Trump fairly.

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Bob Dole, of all people, would like a word with you.

I am unconcerned with Bob Dole's opinions.

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I wonder if Trump will play "Macho Man" and "YMCA" by the all gay group Village People like he did at his last rally....

Is Trump giving a hint to his evangelical supporters?

I mean, I can't see Pence as anti-LBGT as he is but maybe Trump and Billie Barr?

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Bob Dole? Can someone let me in on this new conspiracy theory?

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In his Town Hall, I wonder if Biden will take any questions about or discuss the NY Post article concerning his meeting the Burisma executive. It would be informative if he did since both Twit and FacePlant have banned/censored any mention of it. The Ministry of Truth seems to rallying around him as usual. I would actually vote for him if he would commit to disbanding The Ministry of Truth and let the Sun Shine In. Light is a great disinfectant and he could the Town Hall to let some illumination in.

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Bob Dole is friends with all the "Republicans" on the "bipartisan" election committee.

He simply identified that all his friends dont support Trump, therefore the committee is full of NeverTrumpers masquerading as the Republican part of a supposed "bipartisan" committe.

No different than the "Republicans" on CNN or the "conservatives" at WaPo and NYT.

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He wont be asked. The moderator is George Stephanopolous- again.

In his Town Hall, I wonder if Biden will take any questions about or discuss the NY Post article concerning his meeting the Burisma executive.

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He should have appointed a member of his family to his cabinet to create funnier trash.

Not sure, no one shows up to Biden’s rallies and no one shows up and then he continuously forgets he’s running for the Presidency and not Senate. Trump is just non-stop on the campaign trail and Biden retires after a few hours....

Sad....

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Debate organizers said they wanted to switch to a virtual format for safety reasons after Trump contracted the coronavirus, but he refused.

"Debate organizers"? Did the author of this article, Ben Sheppard, forget the actual name of the "debate organizers"? It was the "debate organizers" who chose to change the format of the 2nd debate WITHOUT NOTIFYING EITHER PARTY. Then the "debate organizers" act surprised when the debaters find another outlet from which to speak to the people.

Trump and Biden will still be competing for the voter's votes, but they will using NBC and ABC to deliver their messages. I wonder which candidate will draw more viewers? Should I assume that Biden's anti-free-speech followers will now demand that people boycott NBC?

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preview of the softball questions that will be asked of Biden at the town hall.

Wont ask them anything about policy, but this is a critical question to educate the voters.

"I would kick myself if I didn't just ask you ... if you noticed the fly on Vice President Pence's head at the time during the debate," MSNBC host Rachel Maddow asked Harris during an appearance on her program Wednesday. "We could see it at home. Could you see it sitting next to him." 

"Oh, Rachel," Harris smiled, before taking a pause and then nodding to communicate she did, in fact, see the insect on the Vice President's head.

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and yes, liberals are angry at NBC for scheduling Trump at the same time as Biden.

I've heard from over a dozen NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC sources (talent and staff) and the frustration with and anger toward their employer for scheduling a town hall against Biden is palpable.

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More victimization complaints from conservatives. Perhaps they were born with it.

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Bob Dole is a partisan Republican throwing his so-called friends under the bus to try and drum up drama.

No different to posters who claim to be lifelong Democrats who just coincidentally advocate far-right GOP politicians and policies every chance they get.

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I am unconcerned with the opinions of a dozen NBC talent and staff.

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The level of desperation and panic is off the scale in Trump-world....

Biden leads Trump from between 10-14 points nationally...

Biden is leading in all the swing states...

The virus isn't "disappearing" - it's resurging across middle America...

Trump was caught saying the virus was "a killer" and "deadly" - yet continued to tell the American people it was "just the flu"...

He paid zero tax or at most $750 in ten years...

His former campaign manager threated to commit suicide...

He held an unsafe ceremony that violated all CDC precautions and infected 37 people so far to include himself, his wife and son...

They know they're losing in a landslide and are trying to keep their ever-shrinking base motivated by peddling super-crazed conspiracy theories and outright lies...

They know this race is over...but as they've done for the last four years, they continue to con and scam Trump's supporters...

The reckoning for them on Nov 4th will be crushing...

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Bob Dole is friends with all the "Republicans" on the "bipartisan" election committee.

He simply identified that all his friends dont support Trump, therefore the committee is full of NeverTrumpers masquerading as the Republican part of a supposed "bipartisan" committe. 

No different than the "Republicans" on CNN or the "conservatives" at WaPo and NYT.

Thats definitely it. It had nothing to do with Trump refusing a virtual debate because he was infected with a virus that will magically disappear.

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lincolnman - The level of desperation and panic is off the scale in Trump-world....

Biden leads Trump from between 10-14 points nationally...

Biden is leading in all the swing states...

That sounds a lot like what the democrats were saying in 2016.

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Biden's town hall will be about how he is not a liar.

Trumps town hall will be about Biden's lying to the American people regarding the Ukraine.

Game over Biden. Maga 2020!

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incolnman - The level of desperation and panic is off the scale in Trump-world....

Biden leads Trump from between 10-14 points nationally...

Biden is leading in all the swing states...

That sounds a lot like what the democrats were saying in 2016.

Except the few polls that predicted a Trump win in 2016 all show Biden leading in 2020...oh my....

And thanks for agreeing with me on all the other points...

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ummm the NY Post article that is being suppressed tells a quite different story.

Biden's town hall will be about how he is not a liar.

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Are you kidding? The next moderator was a former Biden intern. And at least Trump didn't wear a wire. Oh, maybe it was just a loose thread.

We know you like to joke. Are you joking? Or was that meant for your other account?

We'll probably never know.

You got that riht

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Black: that is being suppressed

More victimization.

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We've been hearing that since 2016.

Well, if you’re already used to the idea it won’t come as too big of a surprise to you.

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Biden, a 47 year corrupt politician, not good.

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ummm the NY Post article that is being suppressed tells a quite different story.

By George Soros? The cabal that controls the MSM?

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and yes, liberals are angry at NBC for scheduling Trump at the same time as Biden.

Did you conduct or participate in the poll necessary to determine this? Are you now back to trusting polls?

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He simply identified that all his friends dont support Trump, therefore the committee is full of NeverTrumpers masquerading as the Republican part of a supposed "bipartisan" committe.

Don't support Trump, therefore masquerading as Republicans. Gotcha.

To be a Republican, you must support Trump. You can't do otherwise. That's some real 1984 logic.

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The NY Post story has already been proven to be nothing but Russian disinformation - and once again, we have Fox News and all the other far-right media helping peddle it...

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-hunter-joe-biden-giuliani-red-flags-disinformation-2020-10

It just goes to show how desperate Trump-world is...

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oh maybe this is the disinformation. as there has been not enough time and not any effort to look into it before it was immediately censored by social media platforms.

The NY Post story has already been proven to be nothing but Russian disinformation

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none of which mattered when it was the Steele dossier. huh?

 The most glaring questions center around whether the emails described in the story are legitimate, how they were uncovered, and how the Post obtained them.

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oh maybe this is the disinformation. as there has been not enough time and not any effort to look into it before it was immediately censored by social media platforms.

Oh no! Those evil social media platforms. Did they also turn off the internet? Can you still go to nypost’s website and read the breaking news?

Do Trump conservatives ever get tired of playing the victim card?

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yes, the NY post is still available. Which leads me to their new article that mentions the Biden Campaign isnt denying any of this. So it should be a town hall question tomorrow to get a denial on the record.

The meeting wasnt on an official calendars. Oh what about the "unofficial" calendar?

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

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First topic in Town Hall.

The Biden campaign didn’t respond to The Post’s five pre-publication requests for comment nor ever deny the e-mails’ veracity. It won’t even say Joe never met with Pozharskyi — but only that no such meeting shows on his “official schedules.”

Nor did Hunter dispute The Post’s reporting. His lawyer George Mesires refused comment, except to slam Rudy Giuliani, who gave us a copy of the hard drive Sunday.

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Politico: "Biden’s campaign would not rule out the possibility that the former VP had some kind of informal interaction with Pozharskyi"

Cant wait until Biden isnt asked about this at all in the Town Hall.

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Trump: "They spied on my campaign", "it was treason", "it was massive"....

Today Barr's own investigation commissioned to look into any wrongdoing in the "unmasking" allegation came up with....wait for it......NOTHING!

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/unmasking-trump-biden-michael-flynn-2016/index.html

And one more crazed Trump conspiracy theory bites the dust...

The desperation grows....

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The first debate was a disaster for Trump in the polls, so not a surprise that he cancelled the second one.

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*yes, the NY post is still available. Which leads me to their new article that mentions the Biden Campaign isnt denying any of this. So it should be a town hall question tomorrow to get a denial on the record. *

The meeting wasnt on an official calendars. Oh what about the "unofficial" calendar?

Deep State business is on the “unofficial” calendar. It is collaborating with Soros to undermine Trump by quoting Trump’s own words and suppressing NYPost articles.

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so you also arent denying it happened. just deflecting with loaded word nonsense.

Did this happen or not? why wont Biden deny it? Should he be asked to go on the record about it at the Town Hall? or will he be protected from having to answer something- again?

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so you also arent denying it happened. just deflecting with loaded word nonsense.

I don’t have bought information to make a statement beyond pointing out it sounds like someone playing the victim card, which seems to be underpinned by a conspiracy theory.

We have to get to the bottom of this.

Did this happen or not? why wont Biden deny it? Should he be asked to go on the record about it at the Town Hall? or will he be protected from having to answer something- again?

I don’t know what happened because I don’t have enough information.

Perhaps Biden prefers not to react in a knee-jerk manner. Perhaps Biden is actually dead, and he’s been replaced by a clone. The possible reasons are endless, but I’m sure it has to do with a multifaceted cover up with dire implications.

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The first debate was a disaster for Trump in the polls, so not a surprise that he cancelled the second one

Not just Trump, Biden as well, it was bad for both of them.

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tv ratings revenue = democracy

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and yes, liberals are angry at NBC for scheduling Trump at the same time as Biden.

Funny, I heard that Trump demanded that time slot when NBC wanted to schedule differently. Perhaps your anger should be directed toward Trump?

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Actually ABC had Trump Town Hall at 9pm, then decided to give Biden a more favorable ratings time slot of 8pm.

NBC assumed ABC would use 9pm for Biden too, so they scheduled 8pm. so now we have both at 8pm,

Lets see who watches which ones and then listen to liberals mansplain tomorrow why Trump was much higher rated and that it doesnt mean anything.

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