Trump blames Biden and Harris' rhetoric toward him for attempt on his life

“Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out,” Trump said in comments to Fox News Digital.

So the Dem’s are destroying the country? I’d say that is dangerous rhetoric that may get Harris shot.

Saying that Trump is a danger to democracy is a fact, not dangerous rhetoric.

And be would be correct In that statement.

“The Trump campaign shared Monday a list of more than three dozen instances where President Biden, Harris and other Democrats labeled him as a threat who needed to be stopped, eliminated or defeated. Many of those comments were referring to Trump as a threat to democracy or to basic freedoms, like abortion access, and some Democrats later apologized for comments that drew backlash.”

If only there was legislation that former President Trump could have signed while in office to prevent a person with mental problems from getting those weapons. Maybe the next president will do that.

“Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out,” Trump said in comments to Fox News Digital.

Wow, that is like a same sentence hypocrisy going on there. Is he actually saying only Democrats deserve to be shot at?

And Trump is correct, whether the leftists can admit it or not.

The guy has lost his mind. Wow. He isn’t fit for president.

Trump blaming someone else for his problems? Big surprise. Look in the mirror buddy.

How many immigrants and minorities has Trump endangered with his rhetoric? Tens of millions, at least.

“Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out,” Trump said in comments to Fox News Digital.

Trump seem to be hoisting himself upon his own petard here but that whataboutism is par for the course.

As I said before, all he has to run on now are the assassination attempts and wilder rhetoric.

He might throw out some measly econ populist proposals that he will never follow through on.

He began this escalation with questioning the citizenship of the POTUS and Jan 6.

Blacklabel

Saying that Trump is a danger to democracy is a fact, not dangerous rhetoric

Exactly what the assassin used to justify his intended actions. “Democracy is on the ballot’ we can’t lose!”

you sound very sympathetic and supportive of the assassin’s crazed and dangerous viewpoint, unsurprisingly.

And yet, Trump uses this rhetoric against Harris daily. Hypocrisy.

Hervé L'Eisa

And Trump is correct, whether the leftists can admit it or not.

No. He is not. Trump and the GOP use violent rhetoric. The Dem’s do not.

Blacklabel

The Trump campaign shared Monday a list of more than three dozen instances where President Biden, Harris and other Democrats labeled him as a threat who needed to be stopped, eliminated or defeated.

And the Dem’s could list more than three dozen instances where Trump have labeled Biden or Harris as a threat who needed to be stopped, eliminated or defeated.

Didn’t Trump also say during the debate that Kamala is a threat to democracy? Does he view his own rhetoric as just as abominable?

Reminder that this is the same guy who said "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people ... maybe there is, I don't know."

The Dem’s do not.

so what are the 3 dozen examples of violent Democrat rhetoric that were referenced?

nobody said those?

And the Dem’s could list more

why don’t they then? Please list some for us.

their policies are destroying our country. Not them personally. With Trump, everything is “he” is a threat - never about policies.

Blacklabel

The Dem’s do not.

so what are the 3 dozen examples of violent Democrat rhetoric that were referenced?

None of those referenced are violent rhetoric.

The nature, the tone, the bile, the intensity, of Harris/Biden personal attacks.

The sheer ferocity, savagery, the insinuation, the falsehood, "Donald Trump will take away your democratic right to vote!!"

The Harris campaign "go to" language is intended to incite hostility, so violence response for those that won't/refuse to wait until November 5th, triggering two assassination attempts on the life of an political opponent.

Harris campaign has refuse to debate policies, the economy, health care, choosing instead to "rile up" create a atmosphere of belligerence, to fan the flames of discontent against Donald Trump.

Listen to Kamala Harris rhetoric, "we're not going back"

VP Kamala Harris on Donald Trump's Threat to U.S. Democracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmlFtPNoZOY.

Harris is hide and seek, duck and dive.

Harris rhetoric is to create the toxic atmosphere of despise fear and loathing towards Donald Trump until it provokes action instead of words.............

Kamala Harris isn’t a threat to democracy.

She is just an unqualified cackling accent swapping race and gender pandering idiot. who was placed in the lead DEI candidate role after the old white guy with 14 million votes was “soft couped” out of his rightful nomination cause he “couldn’t win”.

the voters (democracy!) at the ballot box will surely elect Trump to solve that undemocratic action.

So can the left just be quiet with the violent rhetoric, stop trying to murder him and let the people vote? (Democracy!)

extreme Leftists:

“The poll, released by the University of Chicago via the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, found that 26 million Americans believe "the use of force" is justified to keep Trump from regaining the presidency. Of the 26 million, the poll found, nine million have guns, and 22 million have access to "internet organizational tools."

itsonlyrocknroll

The Harris campaign "go to" language is intended to incite hostility

Nope. In no way is the Harris campaign language intended to incite hostility.

As I said before, all he has to run on now are the assassination attempts and wilder rhetoric. 

After two failed attempts, absolutely.

He might throw out some measly econ populist proposals that he will never follow through on. 

And?

He began this escalation with questioning the citizenship of the POTUS and Jan 6.

Thank Hillary and Podesta for rolling that ball and for J6 if he was inciting violence and People acting on it allegedly then the Dems are inciting it by calling him a threat to democracy.

Seems like a case of the kettle calling the pot black. The hypocrisy is so thick. Trump forgets that he is the one who incited and encouraged the Jan. 6th riots urging white supremacist groups like the Proud Boys to march with him on that day (even though he chickened out and didn't meet his followers there). He said things like "Walk down to the Capitol" and "You will never take back our country with weakness".

Let's not forget that he incited violence against Hilary Clinton with his whole "Lock her up!" speech. To add, he incited violence against Nancy Pelosi and there was actual violence committed against her husband due to his words and actions.

He incites violence against minorities by calling Mexican immigrants "rapists and murderers". He incites violence against women all the time not only through his words by his lecherous actions.

And here he has the gall to claim that Democrats are inciting violence against him? I'm sorry Trump, but you're actually doing it to yourself. If you had any iota of compassion, understanding, a moral compass, and righteousness, you wouldn't get people (even from your own Republican party) to feel hatred towards you.

Blacklabel

Kamala Harris isn’t a threat to democracy.

So why does Trump repeatedly say that she is?

Irresponsible. No?

They've tried to kill Paul Pelosi, any number of politicians on Jan 6, their own vice president, and their own candidate twice. The right has a violence problem.

bass4funk

People acting on it allegedly then the Dems are inciting it by calling him a threat to democracy.

And when Trump calls Harris “a threat to democracy”?

And when Trump calls Harris “a threat to democracy”?

So both sides need to tone down the rhetoric

I thought this attempt was about Ukraine. It is not the Democrats who are talking about ending the war quickly, which would probably mean Ukraine lost territory.

So you keep insisting Underworld..........

kamala Harris campaign never intended to debate the genuine concerns the US electorate, or defend her record in office, suitability for the most powerful President on this earth.

No combative interviews, press conference. Scrutiny, accountability, not in Harris vocabulary

No, Underworld, I have to politely state point out, your state of denial, a refusal to acknowledge so, is truly remarkable.

no one takes anything trump says seriously. everybody knows that. i've had the best professors at wharton tell me, "sir, everyone knows it's not true."

no one takes anything trump says seriously.

We don’t take the left seriously and definitely not this administration.

everybody knows that. i've had the best professors at wharton tell me, "sir, everyone knows it's not true."

Hmmmm

i had the greatest attempt on my life ever in the history of the world. no one has had a better attempt, and no one knows more about attempts than me.

Dems do have a nasty obsession with the guy, so I would tend to agree with him

Had it been the other way around, Trump would’ve been saying:

There are very fine people on both sides . . . Blah, blah, blah

The one thing missing from the left’s rhetoric:

”don’t worry left, Trump won’t be able to do any of those ‘bad’ things, cause we gonna win the election”

instead they incite violence and promote election cheating as the only way to prevent these ‘bad’ things from happening. Why dont they simply affirm they will win?

compared to the right: who says nothing to worry about her crazy nonsense! Just laugh it off. none of it will ever pass Congress even if she happens to somehow get elected.

If I weren't laughing so hard I'd point out MAGA's hippie peace rhetoric. But this comment from Mr. Trump should get him a guest shot on Saturday Night Live. The violent rhetoric comes from where again? I forget.

The violent rhetoric comes from where again? I forget.

Trump is a threat to democracy, Trump wants to stop the war in Ukraine and end funding, Trump wants to ultimately seal the border, Trump wants to send back as many illegals as possible, Trump wants to clean out the establishment, Trump was to give the police backing and all the power they need to bring crime under control, Trump wants to broaden the powers of ICE, Trump was to cut entitlements, he’s an American First Nationalist, so yea, he’s inciting violence.

The clear difference between the left and the right (at least the part that is pro-MAGA) is that when Joe Biden performed horribly during the debate, he was called out on it by fellow Democrats, and even high-profiled movie stars like George Clooney, calling for him to step down and be replaced. When Biden made gaffes like introducing Zelensky as Putin, he was lambasted in the media for it, by calling him senile and losing it.

However, when Trump says things like grabbing women's private parts, MAGAs and people supporting him brush it off as locker room talk. When he says hurftul and untrue things like stories about drinking bleach to cure COVID-19, they say he is just joking. When he spouts conspiracy theories like Haitian immigrants eating people's pets, they say he just having fun and not really serious about it, and that we should all have a laugh about it.

bass4funk

The violent rhetoric comes from where again? I forget.

Trump is a threat to democracy, Trump wants to stop the war in Ukraine and end funding, Trump wants to ultimately seal the border, Trump wants to send back as many illegals as possible, Trump wants to clean out the establishment, Trump was to give the police backing and all the power they need to bring crime under control, Trump wants to broaden the powers of ICE, Trump was to cut entitlements, he’s an American First Nationalist

These are just facts.

He began this escalation with questioning the citizenship of the POTUS and Jan 6.

Thank Hillary and Podesta for rolling that ball

Since MAGA Q love their conspiracies how about Trump's history of contributing to the Clinton's?

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071

And taking the bait and running with the Birther conspiracy attacks like a racist dog to fuel his political rise.

Curious.

Point still stands Trump is responsible for the degradation of US political discourse.

He is an unhinged Ukraine fanatic. Said that yesterday. He wrote a 292 page book/manifesto with his nutty theories. Even the NYT, which interviewed him last year, openly described him yesterday as - quote - "in way over his head". Went everywhere including Taiwan. Openly called for first strike nuclear war. Really unhinged stuff.

Look at the videos he did. His ramblings on the subject are a bunch of nonsensical babble.

And indicative of the misinformation setting the agenda of that conflict and its origins.

Blacklabel

Left emotionally triggered by violent rhetoric coming from a very real fear of losing.

Yet the assassination attempts haven’t been from the left.

good thing Trump getting 26% of the Black men under 50 vote in the last NAACP poll then.

These are just facts.

Well, if the left feel that’s a threat to democracy, oh well…

bass4funkToday  07:59 am

Trump was to give the police backing and all the power they need to bring crime under control

the convicted felon, facing more felony trials, might want to start with bringing himself under control.

itsonlyrocknroll

No combative interviews, press conference. Scrutiny, accountability, not in Harris vocabulary 

No, Underworld, I have to politely state point out, your state of denial, a refusal to acknowledge so, is truly remarkable.

I agree totally with what you said. And I have said before that how Harris decides to campaign is up to her.

Why are you so triggered by her campaign tactics?

The outrageous lies, distortions, and fabrications just keep getting bigger - a sure sign Trump knows he's cratering...

He's desperate to claw back the narrative as Harris continues to rise...

But what he doesn't get, even when his own campaign team tells him, is that these wild, crazed rants may excite his core kooky base, but they repel moderate Repubs and Independents...

So keep up-ing the crazy Donald - you're just helping ensure a Blue Wave...

Trump is a threat to democracy, Trump wants to stop the war in Ukraine and end funding, Trump wants to ultimately seal the border, Trump wants to send back as many illegals as possible, Trump wants to clean out the establishment, Trump was to give the police backing and all the power they need to bring crime under control, Trump wants to broaden the powers of ICE, Trump was to cut entitlements, he’s an American First Nationalist, so yea, he’s inciting violence.

No, inciting violence is saying "March to the Capitol with me". None of the comments you posted calls for any action to be done. There is no statement that says to shoot Trump. However, Trump did clearly say to his MAGA followers to march to the Capitol to overturn the election results. He even directly said to the Proud Boys to be ready. Simplly saying "Trump wants to clean out the establishment" is the same as saying "Biden wants to defund the police" and "Kamala wants to overrun your borders with immigrants".

Fact: Trump attempted to overturn the results of an election he lost fair and square. It was the first and only transfer of power in American history that wasn’t orderly and nonviolent. He instigated disorder and was rightly impeached for it.

He has stated that he wants to suspend some parts of the constitution, and that he will be a dictator for a day. He is as a matter of FACT a threat to democracy. Saying so is not violent rhetoric.

As usual, Mr. Trump will blame anyone but himself.

instead they incite violence and promote election cheating

Still pushing the election lies that fomented violence on Jan 6.

Our MAGA-friends may be on to something here when they say "Trump is just joking" when he makes these clear beyond crazy remarks...

Here's a few more things he was "joking" about and never meant....

"We'll build a border wall and Mexico will pay for it - mark my words"...

"Life begins at conception"....

"EVs are a total hoax"....

"RFK Jr is the country's biggest Liberal Lunatic"....

Those were all just jokes - he was "kidding" when he said them...

Anyone who took him seriously is just stupid and easily fooled...

Since MAGA Q love their conspiracies how about Trump's history of contributing to the Clinton's?

Trump was a former lib and friend of the Clinton’s but that has nothing to do with Hillary starting the birther claim.

And taking the bait and running with the Birther conspiracy attacks like a racist dog to fuel his political rise.

The Dems ran with the Russian collusion delusion hoax as well

Point still stands Trump is responsible for the degradation of US political discourse.

And the left as well with their demonization and sick obsession with Trump.

Fact: Trump attempted to overturn the results of an election he lost fair and square.

So did Gore. Raskin and Jeffreys didn’t want to certify the results of the 2016 election. Facts?

It was the first and only transfer of power in American history that wasn’t orderly and nonviolent.

Given what transpired before that, that was a first in history as well.

He instigated disorder and was rightly impeached for it. 

No, because he never called for any violence. He said it, it’s on tape and video, the left cut up what he said and just used only a part that incited anger to the haters and then Pelosi and her minions tried to stop Trump from running so they illegally put on a Shiff show trial to try and impeach the President and failed not once, but twice.

He has stated that he wants to suspend some parts of the constitution, and that he will be a dictator for a day.

How will he do that?

He is as a matter of FACT a threat to democracy. Saying so is not violent rhetoric.

As are the left with their antagonistic rhetoric

So, he is trying to blame others because people don’t like him? People don’t like him because he is a Richard head.

Oh noes:

“Kamala Harris in 'danger zone' in swing states says CNN data reporter: National polls 'don't matter'”

According to media reports the possible assassin didn't have Trump in his sights and didn't fire a shot.

Trump says what he does to constantly provoke people. He does so directly and his actions have been poor one's over the years. It seems all the insults, the hate, and the weirdness is a reason why the shooter(s) have done what they have.

If one doesn't take his own actions into consideration, it's a one sided picture and just a narrative being created.

There's no question in my mind that the respective shooters are exactly why gun laws being so loose are a reason Trump should have a stricter attitude toward firearms, but he cuddles with the NRA. He promotes the shooters to a much higher level of gun use than Biden/Harris.

He's a weasel to blame anyone other than the shooter and guns.

To says this is a right/left thing is a complete waste of brain cells. You rightists who are supporting Trump on this idea that he can blame Kamala Harris is ridiculous at best. You should be embarrassed for believing everything coming out of Trump's mouth is something to lock into and give the normal MAGA shpeel.

It's juvenile, it's irresponsible and it's wrong.

Grow up Donald. I know that's impossible, but come on....this latest 'blame' by him is so Donald, and he needs to denounce violence, not incite it.

I'm going to vote for the guy 'they' keep trying to kill.

Donald Trump claimed Monday that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris' comments that he is a threat to democracy had inspired the latest apparent attempt on his life, despite his own long history of inflammatory campaign rhetoric and advocacy for jailing or prosecuting his political enemies.

Dems? Trump really needs to look in his own Repub Party if he thinks words are inspiring threats against him...

Fellow Repub Ohio Gov Mike DeWine accused Trump of spreading “garbage"....

"There’s a lot of garbage on the internet. You know, this is a piece of garbage that was simply not true. There’s no evidence of this at all,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ohio-gov-dewine-defends-haitian-migrants-springfield-trump-vance-rcna171198

Wow, tough words...wonder how many kooks that motivated to get out their AR15s?

the guy is obviously mentally ill, as more has been learned about him.

so quit making it political. it wasn't democrats, or libs or anything else.

just stop it.

So, what is stopping the current government to push "Save Trump's life" gun control laws?

Either republicans support it (not likely) or they get on record being against saving his life,

Something bad happens to liberals

Liberals : “It’s trump’s fault!

Something bad happens to Trump

Liberals : “It’s trump’s fault!

Blacklabel

Yeah I mean it’s “totally ok”if a guy goes and sets up a sniper nest and waits 12 hours to kill our next President as long as he never had a good line of sight to get off a shot before he was found it’s kinda like meh whatever, huh? He didn’t get off a shot!

Facts are important. The lack of gun laws allowed the assassin to obtain a deadly weapon. It was an unscheduled visit by Trump so how did he know Trump would be playing golf?

It could have been deadly but it wasn't.

then the other guy gets off 8 shots but meh just maybe kinda got him in the ear, no biggie.

Different incidents.

insane levels of delusion and avoidance of reality here every day.

 "honto ni?" (本当に？)

Then the current UK Prime Minster thought it was wise to promote David Lammy to U.K. Foreign Secretary?

Is it any wonder Donald Trump life is in mortal danger?

Since you brought it up, Liz Truss is a Trumpist now and challenging election results.

https://apnews.com/article/liz-truss-economy-book-donald-trump-bbd694da6150d6f851af805b462e92fb

Satisfied Trump and Truss look to be exporting their election denial conspiratorial rhetoric to the UK now?

Biden....

"We're done talking about debate, its time to put Trump in the bullseye"

Truly eyewatering toe curling wishful thinking?

Prophetic, one day before the first assassination attempt, such a statement from a US sitting President

Listen to Biden squirm weasel. attempting to waffle out.

Biden: ‘It was a mistake’ to use ‘bull's-eye’ in remarks about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUO_zrPYocE

Biden/Harris still won't take responsibility for words/actions that incite political violence

What kind of person would proclaim "I will NEVER SURRENDER!" after being shot at by two mentally ill weirdos?

A person with that kind of temperament puts America's democracy under threat.

According to media reports the possible assassin didn't have Trump in his sights and didn't fire a shot.

He just went there to have a picnic, maybe shoot a few squirrels or gators, but the guy just wanted to chill over there next to Trump bringing his firearm.

What kind of person would proclaim "I will NEVER SURRENDER!" after being shot at by two mentally ill weirdos?

A defiant person not willing to bow down to the deep state

A person with that kind of temperament puts America's democracy under threat.

More like the people proclaiming the man is threat

Gun violence is a daily occurrence in the Guns R US.

itsonlyrocknroll

Biden/Harris still won't take responsibility for words/actions that incite political violence

That’s because they don’t say words/actions that incite political violence.

bass4funk

A defiant person not willing to bow down to the deep state

So these would be assassins are now part of the deep state?

bass4funk

According to media reports the possible assassin didn't have Trump in his sights and didn't fire a shot.

He just went there to have a picnic, maybe shoot a few squirrels or gators, but the guy just wanted to chill over there next to Trump bringing his firearm.

The SS spotted him before he had Trump in his sight. The SS fired several shots and the assassin took off.

We all know why he was there.

We all have internet.

So these would be assassins are now part of the deep state?

I wouldn’t be surprised.

Underworld, fascinated, surprised as apposed to triggered.

I am astonished at Harris campaign strategy at the same time impressed,

To shield such a weak candidate in an US election, the scripted rallying cries.

The lack of upfront media scrutiny.

To leverage such smoke and mirrors, such cloak and dagger, has to be admired for its sheer outrageous flagrant duplicitous intent, without even a hint of remorse

Will this lead to better gun laws? I'm certain it won't.

--What kind of person would proclaim "I will NEVER SURRENDER!" after being shot at by two mentally ill weirdos?

A defiant person not willing to bow down to the deep state

Ryan Wesley Routh is part of the deep state?

According to media reports the possible assassin didn't have Trump in his sights and didn't fire a shot.

He just went there to have a picnic, maybe shoot a few squirrels or gators, but the guy just wanted to chill over there next to Trump bringing his firearm.

The SS spotted him before he had Trump in his sight. The SS fired several shots and the assassin took off.

Why would he take off if he’s just picnicking and why take a firearm with a filed off serial number and change of clothes? Gee, odd….

We all know why he was there.

We all have internet.

Well, you just made my argument for me.

burgers and beers

No. He is not. Trump and the GOP use violent rhetoric. The Dem’s do not.

The posts on this site show the complete opposite of what you say.

No they don’t. I don’t use violent rhetoric.

Trump's golf course runs along public roads and it would be very difficult to guard every possible place an assassin could get a shot off.

Trump's golf course runs along public roads and it would be very difficult to guard every possible place an assassin could get a shot off

It’s not difficult you can easily guard that area even if it inconveniences the public. You can spread a parameter wide enough to guard the man, as well as using drone and snipers

Ryan Wesley Routh is part of the deep state?

Yes

bass4funk

we all know why the assassin was there. Why was he able to obtain a deadly weapon? How will that be stopped in the future?

He has been charged with illegal possession of a firearm.

trump is the ultimate poop stirrer.

over 33 bomb threats have been made in the "they're eating your pets" city of springfield.

and the nazis have shown up there. lining a bridge, flying swastika flags with seig heil salutes.

bass4funk

Ryan Wesley Routh is part of the deep state?

> Yes

Another conspiracy for you.

bass4funk

Ryan Wesley Routh is part of the deep state?

Yes

ROTFL

The man who incited an insurrection against the United State government and is a 34 times convicted felon, says what?

itsonlyrocknroll

To shield such a weak candidate in an US election, the scripted rallying cries.

She’s not a weak candidate. She proved that at the debate, where expounded her policies.

bass4funk

Trump's golf course runs along public roads and it would be very difficult to guard every possible place an assassin could get a shot off

It’s not difficult you can easily guard that area even if it inconveniences the public. You can spread a parameter wide enough to guard the man, as well as using drone and snipers

Before you make a comment I suggest you check out the golf course and its location. Google Maps will help. Do you even know how long the perimeter is? The number of SS agents is limited because Trump is only an ex-president and most likely to remain one.

Trump has always been his own worst enemy, but now he's become "Public Enemy No 1", a menace to society, a MAGA powder keg that Biden and Garland let roll out after Jansix through fear of prosecuting and (horror of horrors!) jailing a former president. Now they are reaping the whirlwind of their political backroom skulduggery to protect a man who would be king.

we all know why the assassin was there. Why was he able to obtain a deadly weapon? How will that be stopped in the future?

I’m more concerned with protecting the former President, as to the where, why and how, is irrelevant, we can be here all day debating this. Trump needs more agents assigned to him especially in an election as critical as this one.

He has been charged with illegal possession of a firearm

Filed off serial number is a very bad thing to have. He’s in serious trouble. Thank God DeSantis is launching his own separate investigation.

Another conspiracy for you

You can’t prove or disprove that theory.

Trump's golf course runs along public roads and it would be very difficult to guard every possible place an assassin could get a shot off

It’s not difficult you can easily guard that area even if it inconveniences the public. You can spread a parameter wide enough to guard the man, as well as using drone and snipers

Before you make a comment I suggest you check out the golf course and its location.

I know the street and location

Google Maps will help. Do you even know how long the perimeter is? The number of SS agents is limited because Trump is only an ex-president and most likely to remain one.

Again, not something that the Secret Service couldn’t handle, that’s part of their job. They did that for every other president, so anything else is just an excuse.

And Trump is correct, whether the leftists can admit it or not.

wrong, he voted for Trump in 2016 ans Vivek in the primaries, seems like just another disgruntled republican, for which there are many. There are very few republcians in Trump prior administration that will even endorse Trump

Maybe the UN will have to send election monitors to watch the election.

America what happen to you???

Saying that Trump is a danger to democracy is a fact, not dangerous rhetoric.

People forgot or what? trump was the presidential coup attempts

I am astonished at Harris campaign strategy at the same time impressed,

To shield such a weak candidate in an US election, the scripted rallying cries.

Weak? More Trumpist tu quoque .

After calling Harris dumb as rocks, disparaging her ethnicity and competence ; he received an epic debate defeat after embarrassing himself with all his warmed over immigration demonization boilerplate rhetoric and being baited into semi-coherent ranting.

It is a rhetorical battle now but Trump is clearly on the back foot since the debate.

Democrats in Texas are not waiting for the election,in Texas legal retribution is being carried out against Republicans,it could happen in a case as soon as Friday Trump Train Trial

wrong, he voted for Trump in 2016 ans Vivek in the primaries, seems like just another disgruntled republican, for which there are many.

He voted for Democrats historically and not a whole lot of conservatives live in Hawaii

There are very few republcians in Trump prior administration that will even endorse Trump

Good, fantastic news? We don’t want them, that was the entire goal to get them out, so I feel good.

https://x.com/thequartering/status/1835445548788453791?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

and it seems like he gave quite a bit of money to ActBlue

The fact that Trump would incite and rile his fan base to march to the Capitol to take back our democracy as he put it, to call on groups like the Proud Boys to take up arms, then to not do anything to stop the riots even though he was the sitting President at the time, speaks volumes to the kind of living thing he is. Then, to blame others for the hole he dug, goes even further. He never takes accountability for his actions. He makes up lies like "I didn't do anything", and "It was the Democrats who didn't call security", even though he was the POTUS at that time.

He always shifts the blame and not once accepts any responsibility for anything. Oh, but he'll take credit for things he didn't even accomplish, and use superlatives like "I'm the greatest President ever, even better than Lincoln", and "I attract the largest crowds and have the best rallies in history". He'll say "I know more about the economy, health, weather, etc. than anyone" and then at the same time say "I don't know about the riot at the Capitol", "I don't know about Project 2025", "I didn't know I hired undocumented immigrants worked for my construction companies", "I don't know where that money came from".

bass4funk

we all know why the assassin was there. Why was he able to obtain a deadly weapon? How will that be stopped in the future?

I’m more concerned with protecting the former President, as to the where, why and how, is irrelevant, we can be here all day debating this. Trump needs more agents assigned to him especially in an election as critical as this one.

It would have taken hundreds of agents to fully protect his golf course. There are limited resources. Trump could stop playing golf until after the election.

He has been charged with illegal possession of a firearm

Filed off serial number is a very bad thing to have. He’s in serious trouble. Thank God DeSantis is launching his own separate investigation.

Filed off number or not there are 400 million unregistered weapons.

Another conspiracy for you

You can’t prove or disprove that theory.

That's why they are called conspiracies. I'm not into them. Have Fun.

Trump's golf course runs along public roads and it would be very difficult to guard every possible place an assassin could get a shot off

It’s not difficult you can easily guard that area even if it inconveniences the public. You can spread a parameter wide enough to guard the man, as well as using drone and snipers

Before you make a comment I suggest you check out the golf course and its location.

I know the street and location

Your comment shows otherwise. There are no streets just roads. It is surrounded by public highways.

Google Maps will help. Do you even know how long the perimeter is? The number of SS agents is limited because Trump is only an ex-president and most likely to remain one.

"Trump blames Biden and Harris' rhetoric toward him for attempt on his life."

We all need to realize the spiritual warfare is real and it's marching on right now. Apart from rhetoric from the other side, President D.J.T need to deal with the moles in his campaign. How did a man living in Hawaii knows his schedule and wait for him at the golf course at 2:am in the morning. With all respects it seems the guy knew the Presidents schedule ahead of time. But this should not be surprising bearing in mind the assassin is well documented addressing issue on Ukraine and Taiwan e.t.c. covering their tracks they gonna brand him unhinged now he was caught.

After calling Harris dumb as rocks,

They called Trump worse

disparaging her ethnicity and competence ;

He never made fun of what she was, but it’s true, she’s one minute this and one minute that depending on which way the wind blows. Just watch her videos. Seems like most Black men don’t see her as Black whereas Black women do. Indians think she’s Asian, so there is nothing wrong with bringing it up.

he received an epic debate defeat after embarrassing himself with all his warmed over immigration demonization boilerplate rhetoric and being baited into semi-coherent ranting. 

To the left perhaps, but then again, what’s new, right?

It is a rhetorical battle now but Trump is clearly on the back foot since the debate.

Hardly

Trump could also increase the size of his personal security team.

America what happen to you???

Just read Rick Pearlstein's trilogy on the rise of the modern American Right: Nixonland/ The Bridge/ Reaganland, and you'll never have to wonder any more.

It would have taken hundreds of agents to fully protect his golf course. There are limited resources. Trump could stop playing golf until after the election.

Or they can just add more agents

Filed off number or not there are 400 million unregistered weapons.

Doesn’t matter, when you purchase a hot strap for a few bucks, doesn’t really show you that you have the most noble intentions.

That's why they are called conspiracies. I'm not into them. Have Fun.

Neither am I, you too.

Your comment shows otherwise. There are no streets just roads. It is surrounded by public highways.

All the more to my point and that’s a second time you made it for me.

The number of SS agents is limited because Trump is only an ex-president and most likely to remain one.

Looking at the polls in the battleground and going by Haleprin and Silver, I doubt it.

--Ryan Wesley Routh is part of the deep state?

Yes

lol

He never made fun of what she was, but it’s true, she’s one minute this and one minute that depending on which way the wind blows. Just watch her videos. Seems like most Black men don’t see her as Black whereas Black women do. Indians think she’s Asian, so there is nothing wrong with bringing it up.

It's a serious issue that needs investigating. Trump was just asking questions. He's a curious soul.

How did a man living in Hawaii knows his schedule and wait for him at the golf course at 2:am in the morning. 

If this was an inside tip and the shooter knew the schedule, he wouldn't be waiting from 2 am in the morning.

Have fun with your conspiracy theory.

Oops! correction: the name of the brilliant writer and historian is PERLstein.

More than 40000 people were killed in gun violence in 2023. 385 mass shootings in 2024. But it's never the guns a problem.

"Trump blames Biden and Harris' rhetoric toward him for attempt on his life."

As the Global score board reads:

D.J.T: 2

Devil&Minions: 0

I will never leave you or forsake you, it's evident HE stays true to HIS words and Promises.

despite his own long history of inflammatory campaign rhetoric and advocacy for jailing or prosecuting his political enemies.

As much as I don't like Trump or Harris, there is a huge difference between says you are going to jail opponents (which he didn't do during his term even after all his blustering) and going around at every opportunity insinuating or directly saying Trump is a danger to democracy.

The Dems, Biden, Harris all have a single answer to a y Question : "Trump is a danger to democracy "

Anyone that watched to DNC and every thing was Trump is a danger, they didn't need to put out any policies or say what the plan on doing, just one speaker after another saying Trump is a danger to democracy.

And anyone that says this isn't true is as delusional as the guy that wanted to shoot Trump.

Thank God DeSantis is launching his own separate investigation.

Based on his big question, how did someone in Florida with a firearm get within 500 yards of an ex President?

If you are in Florida you are always within 500 yards of someone with a firearm. That’s how you want it, deal with it.

"So, what is stopping the current government to push "Save Trump's life" gun control laws? Either republicans support it (not likely) or they get on record being against saving his life,"

Good idea that.

"Something bad happens to liberals - Liberals : “It’s trump’s fault!

Something bad happens to Trump - Liberals : “It’s trump’s fault!"

Yep. pretty much sums it up.

and it seems like he gave quite a bit of money to ActBlue

So what.

$140.

45 gave $6,000 to Harris’ campaign and used to be a Democrat.

It was a confused man with a gun and a headful of conspiracies. Same as last time.

It's a serious issue that needs investigating. Trump was just asking questions. He's a curious soul.

And why wouldn’t he be?

Based on his big question, how did someone in Florida with a firearm get within 500 yards of an ex President? 

Ask Biden, Myorkas and Garland that, excellent question.

If you are in Florida you are always within 500 yards of someone with a firearm. That’s how you want it, deal with it.

As if Europeans would know.

Trump does not dance along with the globalists who advocate a one world tyrannical govt. Trump is an obstacle to their evil agenda so they tried to assassinate him because the slanders and cases and impeachment attempts didn’t work.

They called Trump worse

But they've and Trump has called Harris, Biden, war veterans, women, and minorities a whole lot worse. Trump has even been seen on video purposely slurring his words and using fake handicapped gestures to mock disabled people. He's even mocked the LGBT community.

He never made fun of what she was, but it’s true, she’s one minute this and one minute that depending on which way the wind blows. Just watch her videos. Seems like most Black men don’t see her as Black whereas Black women do. Indians think she’s Asian, so there is nothing wrong with bringing it up.

That's the problem with Trump's view of the world (and probably the view of most Republicans), is that you need to pidgeonhole people into one race. Why can't she be both? Nowadays, people often have more than one ethnic background. Trump doesn't understand this. It's why Trump can't understand that when Harris was talking about her Indian heritage on an "Indian cooking show", she never mentioned her Black background. There was no Black recipes being cooked at that time. It's all about context. Yet, Trump gets upset at that. People on the right tend to think you need to be categorized as one race or the other, but the world is not like that anymore.

More than 40000 people were killed in gun violence in 2023. 385 mass shootings in 2024. But it's never the guns a problem.

Or you can further look at the data and see that, According to police stats: the most reliable figures range from 60,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses per year, but the number of lives saved specifically by guns remains unclear due to the complex nature of defensive situations.

"If this was an inside tip and the shooter knew the schedule, he wouldn't be waiting from 2 am in the morning.

Have fun with your conspiracy theory."

Learn to get information from both sides either right or left. Leaning on one side always obscures objectivity leading to erroneous conclusions.

And what you term as conspiracy theory others call it critical thinking.

don’t see her as Black whereas Black women do. Indians think she’s Asian, so there is nothing wrong with bringing it up.

> It's a serious issue that needs investigating. Trump was just asking questions. He's a curious soul.

More than 40000 people were killed in gun violence Blah blah blah.....

Deflection nothing but deflection.

Guns are Major problem in the USA but are they the reason someone tried to kill Trump? No.

Did Trump make stupid and nasty remarks about Harris, Biden, etc...? Yes

Did he accuse them at every chance of being a danger to democracy, a wannabe dictator, etc....? No

There is a big difference between calling Biden " sleepy Joe" etc.. and Harris "not Black" or even calling to lock Clinton up, and telling everyone and anyone that will listen " he is a danger to democracy" "America as we know it is in danger if he wins" " he is a wannabe authoritarian" etc...

What Trump says regardless how stupid it may be is not on the same level as what Harris and her supporters say, stupid comments (Trump) vs fear mongering (Harris etc...).

If this was an inside tip and the shooter knew the schedule, he wouldn't be waiting from 2 am in the morning.

Never underestimate the will power of the committed.

Have fun with your conspiracy theory.

Ditto

As if Europeans would know.

I know. Deal with it.

Trump’s aggressive rhetoric stems from his sense of duty and desire to MAGA and defend and keep Americans safe

…

( people should be quicker to condemn the other side for its hypocrisy and for representing and defending internal and external forces that have nothing to do with the interests of the American people and that contribute nothing to the success of the country and the rest of the Western world )

…

Trump does not dance along with the globalists who advocate a one world tyrannical govt. Trump is an obstacle to their evil agenda so they tried to assassinate him because the slanders and cases and impeachment attempts didn’t work.

By using one shooter who can’t shoot and another shooter who doesn’t fire a shot.

Sure, it’s a deep conspiracy.

Trump (the fourth beast) is the one citing violence just like he did on Jan 6. Just like now.

Trump Admits He Doesn’t Really Care About Effects of Racist Conspiracy

https://newrepublic.com/post/185963/donald-trump-effects-migrants-pets-conspiracy

He has no problem his supporters were going to hang Pence and destroy the capital like he does not care about the bomb threats in Springfield because of his rhetoric.

Yet, he and his MAGA supporters on this thread care that people calls him Weird and Old, which he is because it his feelings and they are also Weird and Old.

Ironically, all of his would-be assassins are disgruntled MAGA supporters who feel betrayed by DonOLD Trump.

patkim

Today 10:39 am JST

They called Trump worse

> But they've and Trump has called Harris, Biden, war veterans, women, and minorities a whole lot worse. Trump has even been seen on video purposely slurring his words and using fake handicapped gestures to mock disabled people. He's even mocked the LGBT community

Can to post any quotes where Trump has said any of these are "a threat to democracy" " a dictator" etc...?

Please let us know!

Not asking if he has said nasty stupid things, my question is very simple has he called the a danger to democracy or the threat to America.

Can to post any quotes where Trump has said any of these are "a threat to democracy" " a dictator" etc...?

Sure. Here you are. There a more if you need them.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5112472/donald-trump-calls-president-biden-threat-democracy

There is a big difference between calling Biden " sleepy Joe" etc.. and Harris "not Black" or even calling to lock Clinton up, and telling everyone and anyone that will listen " he is a danger to democracy" "America as we know it is in danger if he wins" " he is a wannabe authoritarian" etc...

Jupiter threatens to throw everyone who ever crossed him in jail including the sitting President and Vice President, former Speaker of the House and various members of Congress, threatens to cut off fire fighting aid to California if the Governor there doesn't do as Jupiter orders him to do regarding water to farms (never mind the multiple court orders the state and Federal water officials have to obey), says deporting illegal immigrants will be bloody, ect. You don't hear this coming from any Democratic candidate.

That's the problem with Trump's view of the world (and probably the view of most Republicans), is that you need to pidgeonhole people into one race. Why can't she be both? Nowadays, people often have more than one ethnic background. Trump doesn't understand this. It's why Trump can't understand that when Harris was talking about her Indian heritage on an "Indian cooking show", she never mentioned her Black background. There was no Black recipes being cooked at that time. It's all about context. Yet, Trump gets upset at that. People on the right tend to think you need to be categorized as one race or the other, but the world is not like that anymore.

Because Nazis and sympathizers believe in the pure "White" race and maintaining that purity. It was the reason that Jews were targeted. The Jews in Europe are not the original Jews but converts who had to marry descendants of the original African and Northeast African Jews. Thus, their blood was not pure, but they were able to "pass" for non-Jews and pursue their own interests.

These same people (sympathizers) do not like that mixed people include groups that they want to discriminate against. It makes their prejudice to complicated for their simple brains.

Any type of critical thinking may show them that their opinions are stupid which they do not want to know.

Reading this train wreck of a thread as a non-American, it seems pretty clear that you don't even want a united country.

Or you can further look at the data and see that, According to police stats: the most reliable figures range from 60,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses per year, but the number of lives saved specifically by guns remains unclear due to the complex nature of defensive situations.

Those estimates came from 1997 and early 2000s phone surveys of a limited number or respondents that was then extrapolated to the entire US population. Their methodology was poor, counting occasions where someone heard something late at night and grabbing a gun before investigating. No firearm use. Other instances someone saw someone they thought was suspicious in a parking lot and fired at the ground near them. Defensive gun use! Rand Corp did a review of those studies. I attached it. There is no good data to back any claim. The few studies are weak and have poor methodology and suffer selection bias.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/06/andy-biggs/no-government-data-does-not-say-defensive-gun-use-/

https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/defensive-gun-use.html

Florida has a population of 23 million and a size of 170,000 square km.

Nobody knows how many guns there are in Florida because there is no requirement to register them. But we can safely assume it is the many millions. There were 1.3 million firearm sales in Florida just last year.

So unless they are all being kept in the same place if you are in Florida you are always within 500 yards of someone with a firearm.

desantis needn’t bother wasting his time with an investigation. Work on safer gun control measures instead.

Trump does have a point about the level of rhetoric aimed at him. For example, the Biden-Harris claim that Trump is in existential threat to democracy. I mean, no one is shooting at Biden or Harris.

Reading this train wreck of a thread as a non-American, it seems pretty clear that you don't even want a united country.

We have a member of Congress who openly advocates breaking the US up. Somehow in the state of Georgia a person can get elected to the US Congress advocating for the nation to break up.

https://www.businessinsider.nl/mtg-defends-her-call-to-split-up-the-us-by-saying-the-country-is-moving-towards-another-civil-war-we-have-to-do-something-about-it/

Trump does have a point about the level of rhetoric aimed at him. For example, the Biden-Harris claim that Trump is in existential threat to democracy. I mean, no one is shooting at Biden or Harris.

Considering Jupiter's own words threatening to lock up the current Pres, VP, various members of Congress and members of the press their criticism of him being a threat to democracy is more than fair. It's the honest truth! That is not a call to violence. It is a wake up call to those who might be inclined to vote either way.

Florida has a population of 23 million and a size of 170,000 square km.

Google helps

Nobody knows how many guns there are in Florida because there is no requirement to register them.

Thank god!

But we can safely assume it is the many millions. There were 1.3 million firearm sales in Florida just last year.

Good for the dealers

So unless they are all being kept in the same place if you are in Florida you are always within 500 yards of someone with a firearm. 

Ok, but that has nothing to do with this nut trying to snipe the former president. So why the garrulous tangent?

desantis needn’t bother wasting his time

Well, you’re not the governor and you don’t get to dictate and also DeSantis doesn’t trust this administration to do its job in a fair and impartial way. So good on the man for doing this.

I mean, no one is shooting at Biden or Harris.

Nice try, Elon Musk!

I would spend more time trying to figure out why no one is buying Teslas anymore!

Ok, but that has nothing to do with this nut trying to snipe the former president. So why the garrulous tangent?

Desantis wanted to know how someone with a gun could get within 500 yards of 45 in Florida. You called it an ‘excellent question’.

I answered. You dismissed my answer as ‘European’.

I answered again.

Now apparently the question is no longer ‘excellent’ but a ‘garrulous tangent’.

Sure. Here you are. There a more if you need them.

And now let’s look at the Dems rhetoric

Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."

Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."

Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"

Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."

Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."

Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."

Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."

Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."

Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."

Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."

Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."

Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."

Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."

Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."

Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."

Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."

Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."

Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"

Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."

Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."

Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."

Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."

Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."

Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."

Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."

Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."

Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."

Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."

Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."

Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."

Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."

Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."

Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."

Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."

Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."

Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."

Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."

Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."

So you think Trump should tone down his rhetoric? Ok, I will agree, now you do the same and agree with me that the left need to do the same. You going to call them out? Again, both sides need to stop the rhetoric of violence, the left as well. Be fair, don’t let liberal hypocrisy stop you from calling both sides out.

Desantis wanted to know how someone with a gun could get within 500 yards of 45 in Florida. You called it an ‘excellent question’.

And that is why he is calling for an independent investigation.

I answered. You dismissed my answer as ‘European’. 

I answered again. 

You don’t live in the states, not sure why you worry so much

Now apparently the question is no longer ‘excellent’ but a ‘garrulous tangent’.

Both

The guy who told his supporters to beat protesters at his rally and said he’d pay their legal bills, the guy who threatened a “blood bath” if he loses the election, the guy who is out and out threatening to weaponize the government, that guy is the victim of rhetoric?

Thats laughable.

Trump is a scumbag.

Really, it's clear who represents the greatest threat to Trump - the radical far-right - from two areas...

The hard-core evangelicals who think Trump betrayed them when he FLIPPED from life begins at conception to saying he could support abortions until the 15th week. The see Trump as a Judas, a False Prophet who has gone over to the "Dark Side"....a sinner and heathen...a "child murderer"....

Then you have all the MAGA-warriors who believed Trump when he said the election was rigged, urged them all to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell", and that he'd be "right their with you".... Then he comes out recently and admitted;

"I was told if I got 63 million, which is what I got the first time, 'You would win. You can't not win.' And I got millions more votes than that and lost by a whisker," Trump added. Trump received about 74 million votes nationally in 2020, compared to 81 million for Joe Biden. His admission is a departure from his usual rhetoric about the 2020 presidential election results, which he often claims were "rigged."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-acknowledges-lost-2020-election-whisker-rcna169526

So now you have all the MAGA-warriors that are now or have been convicted and jailed because they believed Trump's now admitted lie....add to that all those that sent their last paycheck to him when he begged for money to fight the "fraud"..

Those folks ain't happy - really angry to tell the truth...and they want revenge...

Well stated!!!!!

Your fellow Republican aggress!

BlacklabelToday  06:36 am JST

And be would be correct In that statement.

“The Trump campaign shared Monday a list of more than three dozen instances where President Biden, Harris and other Democrats labeled him as a threat who needed to be stopped, eliminated or defeated. Many of those comments were referring to Trump as a threat to democracy or to basic freedoms, like abortion access, and some Democrats later apologized for comments that drew backlash.”

Trump IS NO THTREAT! Two attempts on this mans life. If I was his political strategist.

I would simply pull him aside in a private office and say look. Mr. President is it really worth it?

Two very serious attempts on your life. You have children who have children. Your Grand children.

Enough Money. Enough wealth. A good life. Use your funds like Soros. Be the Soros for the Republican Party and wreak havoc for the Democrats. Lets put Ben Carson in or someone who will destroy Kamal politically. Here is running a list of names from the GOP. Take a page out of the Democrats book. Give it to the greater good. Its not worth your life. Step aside. Its not worth your life dying for these Democrat nutters out there.

bass4funk

So you think Trump should tone down his rhetoric? Ok, I will agree, now you do the same and agree with me that the left need to do the same. You going to call them out? Again, both sides need to stop the rhetoric of violence, the left as well. Be fair, don’t let liberal hypocrisy stop you from calling both sides out.

No need to tone down the rhetoric at all, especially when they are just stating facts.

Trump tried to steal the election before and there is every chance he will try again. Certainly, a threat to democracy.

now let’s look at the Dems rhetoric

Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."

Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."

Pointing out objective fact is not hateful rhetoric.

For example, calling him an adjudicated rapist, isn’t hateful. It’s the truth.

And now let’s look at the Dems rhetoric

Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."

Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."

Trump rhetoric:

'Dangerous': Trump's escalating 2024 election rhetoric criticized by officials, experts

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dangerous-trumps-escalating-2024-election-rhetoric-criticized-officials/story?id=113588140

Remember, there are 1000s of Jan 6. defendants in prison and bomb threats going on in Springfield, Ohio because of Trump's rhetoric within the last week.

Can the left get any lower?

Did you need any more links to 45 claiming Biden is a threat to democracy or was just the one enough?

The guy who told his supporters to beat protesters at his rally and said he’d pay their legal bills, the guy who threatened a “blood bath” if he loses the election, the guy who is out and out threatening to weaponize the government, that guy is the victim of rhetoric?

This needs to be repeated!

You don’t live in the states, not sure why you worry so much

Yaaaaawn. Then we have something in common. Neither of us live in the states. I visit often though, maybe more than you.

Now apparently the question is no longer ‘excellent’ but a ‘garrulous tangent’.

Both

Huh?

desantis needn’t bother wasting his time with an investigation. Work on safer gun control measures instead.

The shooter flew to Florida from Hawaii and from what I have read borrowed the guns from one of his kids.

I would simply pull him aside in a private office and say look. Mr. President is it really worth it?

Well...Christopher! He is not the president. The country pulled him to the side 4 years ago. The country said, "You are fired!"

“The Trump campaign shared Monday a list of more than three dozen instances where President Biden, Harris and other Democrats labeled him as a threat who needed to be stopped, eliminated or defeated. Many of those comments were referring to Trump as a threat to democracy or to basic freedoms, like abortion access, and some Democrats later apologized for comments that drew backlash.”

Those are not calls to violence such as those Jupiter uses all the time. Those are calls to get out and vote. Do you understand the difference?

Wow mods double standards.

Open-minded

Today 11:16 am JST

Ironically, Shinzo was also found to be corrupt like Trump, big fan of Trump and both had assassination attempts on their lives by former supporters.

So trying to make a justification for trying to kill Trump and for killing Abe is ok but pointing this out for what it is , well that isn't permitted.

To all those trying to deflect the situation towards guns in the United States. Let me point a few things out.

I am from a country where guns are rare. No one in my family has ever owned one. I have never seen or held a real gun. I live in Japan where guns are even rarer.

But let me remind you, despite Japan having some of the strictest gun laws in the world, prime minister Ave was killed by a gun. A homemade gun, but a gun so stop trying to deflect.

Ironically, Shinzo was also found to be corrupt like Trump, big fan of Trump and both had assassination attempts on their lives by former supporters.

Antiquesaving wrote:

So we are justifying killing people.

How low can people go?

So we are putting words into other people statements to support their own narrative,

How low can Antiquesaving (JT mod) go?

Its not worth your life dying for these Democrat nutters out there.

Nope. How about hold the left accountable for their violent rhetoric that incites crazed people to think the only way to win is if Trump is murdered?

Desantis wanted to know how someone with a gun could get within 500 yards of 45 in Florida. You called it an ‘excellent question’.

And that is why he is calling for an independent investigation.

Just a hunch but if such an investigation does occur and publishes an honest result I don't think the answer is going to set well with the gun rights advocates. In a place where any idiot can buy a gun and carry it in public it should not surprise anyone when an idiot shows up at one of Jupiter's golf courses aiming to shoot at him.

None of the solutions to this problem would be supported by gun rights advocates so Pudding Fingers "investigation" is probably going nowhere.

Oh gee whiz, Bass...comments of threat to democracy is because he encouraged the insurrection to break into the capitol. He wants to control all three branches of government. Both things are obvious threats to our constitution, and he is a narcissistic dictator (at least for a day, derp) wannabe, who doesn't care to follow the whole constitution, just to parts that fit his narrative.

Stop with the threat to his wrongs toward the constitution are saying to threaten him as a human being, it just isn't true that Biden/Kamala threats were a message to shooters.

Wow mods double standards.

So trying to make a justification for trying to kill Trump and for killing Abe is ok but pointing this out for what it is , well that isn't permitted.

Antiquesaving....You would know because you are one!

But let me remind you, despite Japan having some of the strictest gun laws in the world, prime minister Ave was killed by a gun. A homemade gun, but a gun so stop trying to deflect.

It's entirely possible to have populace kept away from guns but still have the high level of security with firearms candidates in the US have.

You have to have been born yesterday or simply being obtuse to claim Trump is any sort of victim in all this. He's been stirring the pot for years.

Nope. How about hold the left accountable for their violent rhetoric that incites crazed people to think the only way to win is if Trump is murdered?

No one in the Democratic Party or in the left in general is saying that.

3 dozen examples of the left “saying that” were posted today.

Nope. How about hold the left accountable for their violent rhetoric that incites crazed people to think the only way to win is if Trump is murdered?

Exactly, why would commit insurrection because Trump incited you to do so knowing that you risk imprisonment or death.

Why would attack protesters you disagree with because Trump to you that he pardon you later?

Why attempt to steal an election or documents from the Whitehouse and hide them Mar Lago because Trump said he would pardon you later!

So DeSantis is doing an investigation?

I hope Trump asked him first which was more important...

This guy with a gun near Trump's golf course...or....

Groomers in Government...

Is it really too much to ask that you refrain from inciting people to try to murder our elected Presidential candidate every 10 weeks?

no one is trying to murder yours, who wasn’t even the one elected.

The guy who spreads, as we discuss this, a damn lie about dark-skinned legal immigrants stealing and eating pets, and when asked to explicitly condemn the bomb scares against children that resulted, refused to do so.

Yeah, that guy’s the victim…/s

Is it really too much to ask that you refrain from inciting people to try to murder our elected Presidential candidate every 10 weeks?

no one is trying to murder yours, who wasn’t even the one elected.

Is it too much?

To not ask supporters to beat protesters at his rally and said he’d pay their legal bills,

to not threatened a “blood bath” if he loses the election, or

to not threaten to weaponize the government against those he do not like.

The guy who told his supporters to beat protesters at his rally and said he’d pay their legal bills,

The Dems did the same

the guy who threatened a “blood bath”

Dems called Trump a Nazi, concentration camps?

if he loses the election, the guy who is out and out threatening to weaponize the government, that guy is the victim of rhetoric?

And if he wins the Dems will just smile and accept it.

Thats laughable. 

Really?

Trump is a scumbag.

So are the left.

The guy who spreads, as we discuss this, a damn lie about dark-skinned legal immigrants stealing and eating pets, and when asked to explicitly condemn the bomb scares against children that resulted, refused to do so.

I’ll wait on the lie part.

Yeah, that guy’s the victim…/s

When you shoot at someone, I would say so.

Musk tweeted on "X" "Why is no one trying to assassinate Biden/Harris?"

Nope. How about hold the left accountable for their violent rhetoric that incites crazed people to think the only way to win is if Trump is murdered?

Yes they should be held accountable. But take note. All should be held accountable in all three active parties.

I have read things and statements that seriously disturb me coming out of my own party.

You know lack of censorship and oversight is really to blame here. Media. That's how these nutters are fed.

I have had enough of the divide. And another thing, I have enough of coming to the defense Trump and MAGA by force and not choice because I am Republican. Some Democrats might feel the same way.

I have had enough of PICK A SIDE AND DEVOTE TO IT. America was not built of division. It was built on Republicans working in harmony with Democrats. It was always give and take. Democrats must own a majority of the extreme left pollical rhetoric coming from some not all, and in kind Republicans should do the same.

bass4funk

Yeah, that guy’s the victim…/s

> When you shoot at someone, I would say so.

Are you saying Trump wasn't a victim this time because the assassin didn't fire a shot?

The Dems did the same

Prove it! Which Democrat or affiliate told others to attack protesters, and they will pay their legal bills.

Distracting us from your coworkers comments?

Donald Trump says there will be a bloodbath if he loses the U.S. presidential elections to Kamala Harris

Synopsis

Donald Trump continues to invoke violent imagery in his speeches, suggesting future "bloody" outcomes related to his policies and potential election results.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/donald-trump-says-there-will-be-a-bloodbath-if-he-loses-the-u-s-presidential-elections-to-kamala-harris/articleshow/113233530.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Is that not violent talk?

Bass

The Dems did the same

We are still waiting for your proof!