Trump blurs lines between personal lawyer, attorney general

Trump supporters (US and 'foreign) are getting what they've said they wanted since the election. They wanted him to tear down US systems and he's been doing just that.

Their loyalty lies not with the country, not with the Constitution (with the exception of the 2nd Amendment) and its separation of powers, but with the reality TV star. (Think 'Our Ford' in 'Brave New World')

One area where they've been wrong is they wanted him to go after something they called the 'establishment', which included Wall Street among others, but instead his 'policies' have made Wall Street and other 'establishment' groups even stronger.

Some 'Americans' actually believed a corrupt businessman would not become a corrupt politician. However Trump's 'foreign' backers backed him for reasons. Was it because they knew he would bumble and mess things up more, fuhrer increase the divides, or because they knew he'd do their bidding. Which he in fact has done.

Barr is the nation's top law enforcement officer and leads a Cabinet department that traditionally has a modicum of independence from the White House.

Barr's department oversees federal prisons, including the one where Epstein met his fate. Does that suggest Barr's more responsible than Trump for what happened to Epstein? Barr's a lifelong deep swamp member, after all, and has been highly paid to protect his fellow swamp creatures and the putative 'elites'. He's one of many corrupt insiders Trump's added to the swamp in his time in office.

Deny, Deflect, and Distract!

That's long been the method Trump's troll armies, US and 'foreign', plus 'useful idiots' organizations like the NRA, and KKK have used 'globally', not just on this site.

Has Barr ever had any reason to think Trump regards him any differently than he does Giuliani?

William Barr has some resigning to do. And if he doesn't, Congress has more impeaching to do. There couldn't be a clearer conflict of interest - the whistleblower complaint specifically implicated Barr, and he refused to recuse. It's ridiculous. A first year law student, before taking classes, would know that's a direct unwaivable conflict of interest.

Giuliani represents Trump's personal interests and holds no position in the U.S. government, raising questions about why he would be conducting outreach to Ukrainian officials.

How anyone other than Trump's most loyal followers can continue to deny Trump, Giulani, etal do not have connections to Putin and his oligarchs -

suggests they're true believers with zero interest in keeping 'foreign' influence out of US politics. They seem to think anything good for Trump and his elite is good with no regard for the US population in general as Trump and his GOP undermine US systems and do all they can to remove environmental consumer and worker protections that protect them from predatory corporatocracy.

But then these followers include those who've long stated their fellow 'American' citizens are their enemies, and not the 'foreign' powers 'meddling' in US affairs. Their 'I'd rather be Russian than Democrat' says it all.

Rudy Giuliani has pulled out of a paid, scheduled appearance at a Russia-backed trade conference which Vladimir Putin and other high-ranking Russian officials are expected to attend.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7514399/Giuliani-suddenly-pulls-paid-appearance-Russia-backed-conference-Armenia.html

Trump sees himself as America. As such, he see s the power of the presidency as a power to serve him; America. And he sees anyone who criticizes him as criticizing America. If you don't do what he says, you are anti-America, and anyone who isn't loyal to him, isn't loyal to America.

The Republicans seem ok with that.

The Republicans seem ok with that.

But remember the primary aim of the Republican Party has long been ensuring the wealth of the wealthiest is maintained. Trump and his fellow GOP members have done just that.

The majority of Republican pols will support Trump's policies to ensure their corporate sponsors continue to donate megabucks to their campaign war chests. They'll continue to tell their constituents they need to be grateful for being trickled down on, that big brother knows what's best for them.

Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine

No, not at all.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-ukraine/ukraine-must-investigate-joe-bidens-son-says-ex-ukrainian-pm-idUSKBN1WC1T3

Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau said on Friday it was investigating activity at Burisma between 2010-2012, but that it was not looking into changes to its board in 2014 when Hunter Biden joined. 

Hunter Biden was a director on Burisma’s board from 2014 until at least 2018, according to documents filed by the company in Cyprus where it is registered. 

Azarov, who was prime minister from 2010-2014, is himself wanted by Ukrainian authorities for alleged abuse of power. 

He said he was not aware of any evidence suggesting wrongdoing on Hunter Biden’s part, but said it was in the Ukrainian public interest to ascertain the legality of his activities.

Azarov said the key thing for investigators to establish from a Ukrainian legal viewpoint would be whether Biden’s fee was a token one or whether he actually did any work to justify it.

So to be fair, let’s see where this goes, if Hunter and Biden are innocent, then fine, but it should be looked into, if you want to look into the Presidents activity, both sides should play fair and leave the bias.

Oh my god, he “blurred a line”. Impeach!

a person familiar with Barr's thinking told The Associated Press. This person was not authorized to speak about the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.”

here we go again with made up sources who didn’t hear anything themselves. They word it this way to avoid saying “hearsay”

So to be fair, let’s see where this goes, if Hunter and Biden are innocent, then fine, but it should be looked into, if you want to look into the Presidents activity, both sides should play fair and leave the bias.

The Trumpers will keep on baying about Biden, but everyone knows its all baseless...it helps them sleep at night while worrying about all the Putin- Trump transcripts hidden on the secret server.

Trump repeatedly told Ukraine's president in a telephone call that Barr and Trump personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani could help investigate Trump's Democratic rival Joe Biden, according to a rough transcript of that summertime conversation. Justice Department officials insist Barr was unaware of Trump's comments at the time of the July 25 call.

When Barr did learn of that call a few weeks later, he was "surprised and angry" to discover he had been lumped in with Giuliani, a person familiar with Barr's thinking told The Associated Press. This person was not authorized to speak about the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

And here we get to the heart of the matter - who is Trump going to throw under the bus first to try to save himself. They are all lining the rails of the Trump Titanic - and they all know Trump has a history of sacrificing someone to save himself - even his children....

Barr, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Crazy Rudy - they all have to thinking; Am I next? Should I cop a plea before?

I'm reminded of the movie; "The Ship pf Fools"...

The Repubs only chance is to recruit Romney and Ryan for a second try in 2020 - you have to know that "snake" McConnell is already planning that...

so all the other transcripts are “hidden” now, that’s the narrative? Nice word choice to make it sound like something wrong is being done.

No they are not “hidden”. They are in a secured and protected where they are supposed to be according to laws about classified materials. You can’t hide something that is not fit public view in the first place.

where are the transcripts of all the previous presidents?

Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, often appears in rambling television interviews as a vocal defender of the president.

Wow, "rambling TV interviews" is being kind... Raging Rudy has mental breakdowns on TV where is says one thing and contradicts himself in 30 seconds. If I was Trump, I'd be seriously worried Rudy would go on a show and be asked the question; Is your client guilty? And answer "No", then when asked seconds later, say "Of course"...

Giuliani represents Trump's personal interests and holds no position in the U.S. government, raising questions about why he would be conducting outreach to Ukrainian officials.

BINGO! Along with the cover-up and the Putin-Trump transcripts, this is what will sink Trump and Rudy - a rogue personal attorney of the President contacting foreign governments to coerce them to influence an election.

Rudy, you should have talked to Cohen before you took the job. Well, maybe you can get the cell next to his and you two can commiserate together...

And you can talk bad about the Great Orange Inmate a few cells down from you...

so all the other transcripts are “hidden” now, that’s the narrative? Nice word choice to make it sound like something wrong is being done.

When will Repubs learn the cover-up is always worse than the crime - it's all laid out in "All the Presidents Men" - movie or book...

No they are not “hidden”. They are in a secured and protected where they are supposed to be according to laws about classified materials. You can’t hide something that is not fit public view in the first place.

They were deliberately taken from a non-classified server and placed on a special high-security code word server that only few people have access to - along with all the Trump-Putin transcripts. COVER-UP!

And as we've seen today, Putin and Russia are freaking out that these transcripts may be released.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-tells-the-white-house-not-to-release-trumpputin-transcripts

Maybe Putin doesn't want the Russian people to know about that Trump Tower Penthouse...or worse...

Speculation. Transcripts of phone calls with works leaders have never been released not should they be.

Sad state of leakers has caused access to be even further restricted. Or do you expect all those transcripts to be released too? Why?

Liberals really need to learn what “cover up” means.

its not protecting things that are supposed to be protected. (Some Things are secret, you know?

It’s also not when everything you ask for is declassified and released and you didn’t find what you hoped to find.

Lol! Your source is Asarov! Nice...........!

Bass4funk wrote :

Azarov, who was prime minister from 2010-2014, is himself wanted by Ukrainian authorities for alleged abuse of power.

SECURITY! of classified material. (Cause liberal leakers are ok with releasing classified material now to “get Trump”)

They were deliberately taken from a non-classified server and placed on a special high-security code word server that only few people have access to - along with all the Trump-Putin transcripts. COVER-UP!

Liberals really need to learn what “cover up” means.

Really? Study a little history and you'll understand that Repubs really need to learn what it means - can we spell WATERGATE?

its not protecting things that are supposed to be protected. (Some Things are secret, you know?

Its a violation of information security rules to place unclassified or lower classified information on a higher level system - read DODM 5200.1-R....

It’s also not when everything you ask for is declassified and released and you didn’t find what you hoped to find.

"I would like you to do us a favor though" - BINGO!

SECURITY! of classified material.

You mean COVER-UP of high crimes and misdemeanors...

So the Democrats want to impeach the president who's looking into the corruption in the last election and elect Biden who was involved in the corruption. Makes sense to me, lol.

The Trumpers will keep on baying about Biden, but everyone knows its all baseless...

Just like with Trump, baseless accusations....again. Anyway, Biden won’t win, won’t be the nominee.

And here we get to the heart of the matter - who is Trump going to throw under the bus first to try to save himself. They are all lining the rails of the Trump Titanic - and they all know Trump has a history of sacrificing someone to save himself - even his children....

Interesting outlandish and comical view from liberals once again. Humor is getting better for sure.

The Repubs only chance is to recruit Romney and Ryan for a second try in 2020 - you have to know that "snake" McConnell is already planning that..

Ok, so back to reality, in 2024 I seriously wonder who the Dems will nominate or what knight in Russian armor of the will come to save the party?

When will Repubs learn the cover-up is always worse than the crime - it's all laid out in "All the Presidents Men" - movie or book...

Just like with the Democrats, loved what Bill Maher said, who’s far left progressive who hates Trump, but even he said, Hunter was a spoiled brat who got the position because of his dad and had it been Don Jr. Maddow and her sleepy crew of boredom would rake the newsfeed cycle 24/7 were it him. He’s definitely right about that.

They were deliberately taken from a non-classified server and placed on a special high-security code word server that only few people have access to - along with all the Trump-Putin transcripts. COVER-UP!

Ok, so what else did you see while you were in the WH? Nadler should call you and have you testify under oath for knowing this serious charge and your evidence is exactly.....

Transcripts of Presidential phone calls are obviously not unclassified or for public release.

It is likely they weren’t heavily classified until the Trump era because people knew not to leak them when it hurts America and our foreign relations.

if they are unclassified let’s have all the others from every president.

Now that first hand knowledge no longer required to submit a whistleblower complaint the whole process is useless. Strange how that changed in August 2019 right before this complaint.

read something on the internet or see CNN or Rachel Maddow show, go file a complaint.

It seems some pretty silly people think the talking point about blah blah second hand blah blah is more relevant than a transcript showing Trump did exactly what everyone is saying he did.

transcript showing Trump did exactly what everyone is saying he did.

No mention of money of quid pro quo, so the Dems are going to impeach him on because of...based on.....and the facts are....

The Republicans are going to make the Dems look like bigger fools than they already are. Funny. This is going to damage the Dems so bad.

The Trumpers will keep on baying about Biden, but everyone knows its all baseless...

Just like with Trump, baseless accusations....again. Anyway, Biden won’t win, won’t be the nominee.

Well, I'm glad you finally see the light and know Biden's allegations are baseless - well done.

And here we get to the heart of the matter - who is Trump going to throw under the bus first to try to save himself. They are all lining the rails of the Trump Titanic - and they all know Trump has a history of sacrificing someone to save himself - even his children....

Interesting outlandish and comical view from liberals once again. Humor is getting better for sure.

I'd bet Pompeo, Barr, Mulvaney and Crazy Rudy aren't laughing - they're lawyering up....

I hear Rudy is looking at hiring Avenatti....

The Repubs only chance is to recruit Romney and Ryan for a second try in 2020 - you have to know that "snake" McConnell is already planning that..

Ok, so back to reality, in 2024 I seriously wonder who the Dems will nominate or what knight in Russian armor of the will come to save the party?

Hey, Trump is the one that called McConnell a snake after he said Repubs would work to knock off Manchin, a Trump friend. You know Donnie is thinking Moscow Mitch is hatching Plan B...

When will Repubs learn the cover-up is always worse than the crime - it's all laid out in "All the Presidents Men" - movie or book...

Just like with the Democrats, loved what Bill Maher said

So who's right, Bill Maher or Ann Coulter?

They were deliberately taken from a non-classified server and placed on a special high-security code word server that only few people have access to - along with all the Trump-Putin transcripts. COVER-UP!

Ok, so what else did you see while you were in the WH? Nadler should call you and have you testify under oath for knowing this serious charge and your evidence is exactly.....

Won't have to - they'll all be subpoenaed. Will Donnie continue to stall and cover-up? He really ought to read All the Presidents Men...

Transcripts of Presidential phone calls are obviously not unclassified or for public release.

Might be unclass, might be FOUO, might be Confidential, might be Secret, may even be TS. But unless they're trying to cover something up, they wouldn't be TS compartmented code word....

Just like with Trump, baseless accusations....again. Anyway, Biden won’t win, won’t be the nominee

There are rumors that HRC might actually jump in for a 3rd crack at it.

Well, I'm glad you finally see the light and know Biden's allegations are baseless - well done.

Like with Trump as well. So Biden’s out, Dems have a shot 2024

Hey, Trump is the one that called McConnell a snake after he said Repubs would work to knock off Manchin, a Trump friend. You know Donnie is thinking Moscow Mitch is hatching Plan B...

But thanks to McConnell, he’s stacking the lower courts, so that’s over 150 new judges, two conservatives on the SC bench, the courts shifted, all is in place when we have a socialist President comes into the WH.

Won't have to - they'll all be subpoenaed. Will Donnie continue to stall and cover-up? He really ought to read All the Presidents Men... 

And nothing will happen as usual, but it will be fun to watch Nadler and President Swawell get frustrated and seeing their meltdowns. Lol

bass4funk:  "This is going to damage the Dems so bad."

But it is damaging the US even worse. Why do you support a President that has done so much damage to your beloved nation since gaining office.  This mentally ill President  has made a laughing stock of the US.

Barr really stepped in it. Getting involved with Trump invariably results in historical destruction of reputation and possible jail time.

This mentally ill President has made a laughing stock of the US.

It's called Making America Great Again, apparently. Who would have thought a criminal organization would get such fervent support?

But it is damaging the US even worse.

So why are the Dems doing this? Pelosi Must be out of her mind when she said, “we really don’t want to do this.” What is she on? They wanted to impeach this President from day one. Look, if you don’t like Trump, fine. Want to beat him, do it through the elections, let democracy play out, but Democrats know they can’t beat this President on the issues and especially the economy, so they need to dig to the bottom of the muddy sewer to come up with dirty tricks to get this guy, it’s the only way they to have at least a sliver of a chance.

Why do you support a President that has done so much damage to your beloved nation since gaining office. 

No, you’re question should be, why liberals support a radical party that want to turn the country into another socialist failed experiment and ruin the country, all in the effort of gaining power to usher in a system that would destroy the country.

This mentally ill President has made a laughing stock of the US.

It was a laughing stock when the last President went on a capitulation apology tour. At least Trump is unapologetic which is one of his more admirable qualities I love.

Pelosi Must be out of her mind when she said, “we really don’t want to do this.” What is she on?

Dunno. What's with Trump's slurred words, sniffing and sweating?

why liberals support a radical party that want to turn the country into another socialist failed experiment and ruin the country,

The Dems are about as radical as a side parting. Can you tell us how socialism has failed in the Scandi countries or various Europeans nations?

It was a laughing stock when the last President went on a capitulation apology tour.

He improved your nation's standing and was warmly welcomed all over the world. He wasn't laughed at or protested at wherever he went. Not bad for a Democrat.

At least Trump is unapologetic which is one of his more admirable qualities I love.

Along with the racism, lies, corruption, nepotism, treason, paying off porn stars, misogyny, sexual harassment and advocating violence.

ROTFL, LOL etc

so they need to dig to the bottom of the muddy sewer

Scum floats on the surface, too. But yes, agreed. It is a very muddy sewer, indeed.

Dunno. What's with Trump's slurred words, sniffing and sweating?

Cold?

The Dems are about as radical as a side parting. Can you tell us how socialism has failed in the Scandi countries or various Europeans nations?

Smaller population, little regulations, free markets, 8 million people. The US free capitalism, no regulations, no ceilings and 330 million, even taking all the money from the 1%, it would never work. California is the prime example of that.

He improved your nation's standing

No, he made it a laughing stock, especially in the ME.

Along with the racism, lies, corruption, nepotism, treason, paying off porn stars, misogyny, sexual harassment and advocating violence.

You just described the Democrat party in a nutshell

Trump has driven a greater wedge between the Oval Office and the intelligence community. They are further part than ever.

Their own fault, serves them right for trying to take down a duly elected President and I’m proud this guy is a country counter puncher. The intelligence community got and are getting one crooked agent at a time what they deserve. It’s just funny how when The last President was in office, the Democrats hated the intelligence agency and now they support it...give me a break. Lol

bass4funk: "The Dems are about as radical as a side parting. Can you tell us how socialism has failed in the Scandi countries or various Europeans nations?"

"Smaller population, little regulations, free markets, 8 million people. The US free capitalism, no regulations, no ceilings and 330 million, even taking all the money from the 1%, it would never work. California is the prime example of that."

Your answer is nonsensical?

Why don't your answer the question? "Smaller population" - what has this to do with socialism?

Well, I'm glad you finally see the light and know Biden's allegations are baseless - well done.

Like with Trump as well. So Biden’s out, Dems have a shot 2024

Just wanted to get it on the record - Biden's allegations are baseless, so don't expect you to keep bringing it up, right?

Hey, Trump is the one that called McConnell a snake after he said Repubs would work to knock off Manchin, a Trump friend. You know Donnie is thinking Moscow Mitch is hatching Plan B...

But thanks to McConnell, he’s stacking the lower courts, so that’s over 150 new judges, two conservatives on the SC bench, the courts shifted, all is in place when we have a socialist President comes into the WH.

Yea, and he's ringing Romney and Ryan's phone off the hook begging them to run after Trump is impeached...Moscow Mitch knows when to fold'em - and he's given up on Trump...

Won't have to - they'll all be subpoenaed. Will Donnie continue to stall and cover-up? He really ought to read All the Presidents Men... 

And nothing will happen as usual, but it will be fun to watch Nadler and President Swawell get frustrated and seeing their meltdowns. Lol

That's what Nixon said...

The desperation of the Trumpers here is palpable - all they can do is parrot the WH talking points; Biden, The Squad, socialism, and Obama, Obama, Obama...all the while Trump's confession in the transcript stares them right in the face, and Pompeo, Barr, Mulvaney, the recently resigned Ukraine Ambassador, and Rudy all talk to their lawyers and consider cutting a deal for immunity...

Can't wait to see those Putin-Trump transcripts - maybe we'll find out why Don Jr and Eric said they get all their money from Russia....while Daddy said he has zero business there....

bass4funk:

"Why don't your answer the question? "Smaller population" - what has this to do with socialism?"

Again, I ask; want has "Smaller population" got to do with socialism?

"I disagree, It’s the socialist Dems that are destroying the country, look at California, people leaving mostly middle class, who’d ever thought that cleaning feces off the streets could be a great moneymaker, pathetic."

More incoherent ranting! What does this mean?

With supporters like you God rally does need to save America.