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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Trump calls London mayor a 'disaster' after a spate of killings
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coskuri
With over 10 000 killed by gun violence each year in the US, the current president must be a giga-disaster.
jcapan
Imagine a foreign head of state condemning your local mayor for street level crime. Say, Jacinda Adern lambasting the mayor of Kawasaki for last month's tragedy. That's how beyond the pale Trump is, and we haven't even gotten to the blatant Islamophobia and trafficking in fascists tweets.
lostrune2
The US has already had mass shootings almost every couple weeks this year - what does that say
Don't throw stones from glass houses and all that
theFu
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
London has some issues. The USA has some issues. Baltimore is the most dangerous city in the USA, less than 50 miles (70km) away from the White House. Just read that it is #19 of the most dangerous, non-war zone, cities in the world. That is worse than some deadly cities in Latin America.
When it comes to crime and murders, some US cities are much worse than London. I can't recall Trump speaking about that - well - speaking truthfully about that. His El Paso speech was so incorrect to be useless. He lied about NYC crime too.
At this point, it is more shocking when Trump actually gets facts correct.
ndwariga
Ignorance of how US law works is why anyone would think Trump has any constitutional authority over city violence. The feds have no jurisdiction, yet The mayor of London has direct Authority over London.
lostrune2
There are ways the US federal government can influence reducing city violence. The US police city chiefs have outlined some of them in a report they published a couple years ago:
"Full Report: Reducing Violent Crime in American Cities: An Opportunity to Lead - Evidence-Based Recommendations for Strengthening Federal-Local Partnerships while Enhancing Local Control of Violent Crime Strategies"
https://www.policefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/PF-MCCA_Reducing-Violent-Crime-in-American-Cities_FullReport_RGB.pdf
PTownsend
showed he's a thug appealing to those in his base who get woodied when he talks like a schoolboy bully.
Alistair Carnell
Only a ‘stone cold loser’ retweets bile from odorous hag Hopkins.
Alistair Carnell
*odious (autocorrect) :(
bass4funk
It’s a free world, he can say what he wants.
Eppee
10s of kids killed by automatic weapons in schools, thoughts and prayers.
A couple of stabbing in a foreign city, this is a disaster the mayor needs to be replaced!!
u_s__reamer
Life in the White House goldfish bowl must be boring Trump out of his gourd for him to be obsessing over the mayor of a far away city that has no love for... Oh! I get it! He feels neglected and unloved again (where's Melania?), another of his daily mini-mental meltdowns that get his spiteful little thumbs a-twittering. Poor old POTUS!
bass4funk
Oh, please! World leaders constantly criticize Trump, but he has to shut up and take it? I don’t think so, they have the right to their opinion and he does as well and if leaders from around the world don’t want to get criticized by him, then don’t say anything. Trump is not going to let someone talk smack about him or throw glass in a glass house.
That goes both ways.
Nor from many European leaders.
bass4funk
Doesn't matter who started it, the point is, everyone is allowed to make comments, that was my only point and it doesn’t matter who likes them or not, including the President. People can say things about him and he can say things about world leaders as well. Everyone needs to get thick skinned.
Alfie Noakes
Katie Hopkins is a racist bigot who's been fired from jobs at the Sun, the MailOnline and the radio station LBC for her repellent views. She's a gutter-dwelling trash monster who is even too extreme for the repulsive Sun and Mail, which really takes some doing:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/katie-hopkins-daily-mail-why-did-she-end-her-contract-a8079816.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/katie-hopkins-sacked-lbc-radio-cheers-applause-presenter-fired-final-solution-manchester-attack-a7756961.html
Why is Trump retweeting filth from Hopkins? Why? Is he a racist bigot who shares her opinions on a Final Solution for Muslims?
Also, doesn't he know that the Tory government's 10 year austerity programme has cut 21,000 police jobs in the UK, which has led to the current rise in knife crime.
Jimizo
Trump retweeted dodgy videos from a UK based racist organization which showed Muslims in a bad light. This understandably annoyed people in the UK. He should have been suspended from Twitter for disseminating inflammatory fake news.
Retweeting someone who is lower than tabloid trash is his right, but shows where his mind is.
He’s trash.
plasticmonkey
Sounds consistent to me.
bass4funk
And Khan can say that, I don’t have a problem with that. But he needs to look at his own record as well.
No, it doesn’t matter because everyone has to right to criticize, Khan criticized the President over the limited Muslim ban and Trump threw it back in his face, fair is fair. Sorry, I don’t believe in you punch me, I turn the other cheek, sorry.
Let him, the man can say what he wants because guess what, none of us can stop it. Lol
Deal with it, comes with the territory of being in the public eye. As if the media getting angry is going to shut this President up, where have they all been these last 3 years?
Ascissor
How extensive is this problem? How many Muslim patrols take place (other than the one we've all seen on YouTube)?
As an atheist and secularist (I take it that you're a secularist too?), I find public displays of religiosity like this annoying, but on the other hand, that's what freedom of religion looks like.
Except that many white British people are Muslim too, and many non-white British people are...non-Muslims. So I don't get the logic there.
But would you say this is a London-specific problem and an example of "London falling from grace"?
plasticmonkey
PC? You mean common decency.
I don't know how calling the mayor of London a "stone-cold loser" and re-tweeting racist dog whistles is combatting "PC".
Maybe you can explain that to us.
Jimizo
You are missing or deliberately avoiding the point. Trump retweeted dodgy videos from a UK based racist organization whose leaders are now in jail. I’m with you on free speech, but Trump retweeted inflammatory fake news and trash which led to a deserved rebuke from the UK PM.
Two questions:
Are you okay with retweeting material from racist organizations? Think KKK.
Is it acceptable to retweet dodgy material from racist organizations?
As I said, Trump can retweet trash like Hopkins, but I think if he’d been sanctioned by Twitter for his revolting behaviour, his Twitter account might be less of a toilet.
You like the wrecking ball approach, but I don’t see why this necessarily entails dodgy videos from racists which understandably incensed British Muslims like Khan.
Incidentally, Khan and Trump are both now disliked by majorities of their electorates. Maybe they could get together talk about this problem. It could be more constructive than fighting.
plasticmonkey
You don't like Obama and liberals. Ok and?
Your response is simply irrelevant.
Jimizo
Yes, but perhaps this unwillingness to get into cat fights was part of why you and your still unnamed non-partisan historians regard him as a successful president.
You could say the same about Obama. Some rightist crackpots were calling him the anti-Christ, others said he was a closet Muslim working for Islamists and some toilet-dwelling trashmongers were putting forward birtherism.
My take is that it isn’t in the nature of Bush 2 or Obama to get into catty Twitter fights. I certainly couldn’t imagine them retweeting dodgy racist videos, asking people to check our non-existent sex tapes or quoting trash like Katie Hopkins. You evidently don’t see acting with reserve or dignity as a virtue in a president. Fair enough.
Strangerland
Yeah - because he started a war on a sovereign nation that was complying with the demands of the weapons inspectors.
Remember the logic at the time? "We can't find them, so the Iraqi's are lying to us and hiding them".
Followed by "mission accomplished".
No one was unfairly hostile to Bush.
bass4funk
I’m not and neither of millions of Brits that think they speak on behalf of Americans.
That’s your opinion, but there are millions that believe so and by the way, the haters won’t stop him so.....
None of these people insulted the President the way Khan did. Kim did in the beginning so remember how that went.
He has no reason to and it would be unwise for him to do it since we need the Saudis, I hate it, but I understand the game.
Chip Star
Trumpophiles sure are playing the victim card to defend Donny. Hilarious.
bass4funk
His prerogative after man man called him unhinged, I would have done the same.
Chip Star
A lot of defense of the thin-skinned, victim president. Too funny.
bass4funk
To their political demise in my opinion.
That’s you, you are free to do and think as you wish, nothing wrong with that.
Thank you.
mmwkdw
Perhaps Trump is annoyed by what he sees as a quiet Muslim (Islamic) revolution going on within the UK, hence his banter.
Chip Star
It's not an opinion that Donny lacks dignity and diplomatic skills.
Chip Star
They were both two-term presidents. Their "political demise" were term limits. Hilarious.
bass4funk
No, it’s an opinion, because I don’t think so, but you do, we just happen to disagree with each other. I think all the Democrats have a couple of nuts and bolts loose that can never be fixed. That’s what I think.
Jimizo
Both won 2 terms in office. Obama won the popular vote twice too. Obama left office with impressive approval ratings and while Bush 2 left office with terrible approval ratings, you and your still unnamed non-partisan historians saw his time in office as a success.
Do you think Bush 2 would have done better if he’d have shown dodgy videos from racist organizations and asked his followers to check out non-existent sex tapes? How about showing a picture of his extremely attractive wife next to an unflattering photo of an opponent’s wife?
Do you think that could have secured the popular vote for him over Gore and who do you think that kind of behaviour appeals to?
bass4funk
Ok, I disagree with you, you don’t think so, but I do.
Listen, I’m not going to hate the President because the liberals do. But don’t worry, there are many socialists that I deeply despise. The list too long for me to get Not each of these nut jobs. You don’t like this President, fine. I don’t like the socialists in Washington trying to make a hammer and sickle experiment out of my country.
Jimizo
The honest Trump supporters see Trump’s crassness, trashiness, ignorance and childishness and will accept this as long as he does what they want done.
Defending Trump the man is an exercise for partisans only.
One interesting question would be if those opposed to Trump would accept an ignoramus and a trashmonger from the left if he or she could beat Trump in a trash-off.
And no, Bass. There is nobody currently running for the Democrats who fits that description.
ndwariga
Trump is a breath of fresh air from the oppression of political correctness enforced by leftists.
Get them their chocolate and safe spaces.
wtfjapan
the point is, everyone is allowed to make comments
Trump can make comments all he wants, the FACT remains the homocide rate is UK is more than 4 times lower than the US 1.2/100000 compared to the US 5.3/100000. only a stone cold loser would state the opposite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
ulysses
Donny retweeting a bigot, what a surprise!
elephant200
London is quite dangerous these days, not the Old London ! But it has nothing to do with Khan or blaming Khan! Trump's tweeting is always always distrurbing! It just reflects his nasty personality!
SuperLib
Unless it's Russia and election meddling.
CrazyJoe
There is no "feud" between Trump and Mayor Khan. That is false equivalence of the two sides and a lie.
Khan is responding to Trump's racist and irresponsible tweets and offensive insults to himself and to London. You know, like the attempted equivalence of Trump on Charlottesville: "There were good people on both sides."
This is not a feud. It's a competent, rational and intelligent mayor condemning factual racist, offensive, divisive and extremist statements by Trump. Period.
presto345
Trump's thing is lies and insults, gets him off.
bass4funk
That was already litigated.
plasticmonkey
Yup. Civil society, democratic governance, science, technology, education. All built on nothing but opinions. There is no objective truth. Interesting to see conservatism in America follow an extreme version of the moral relativism that it used to decry.