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I'm not saying that this is the end of Trump's campaign. For good or for ill, the Republican party is saddled with Donald Trump through at least November 3rd, and then January 20th, 2021. And more than likely he'll occasionally kick up sparks and cinders in the years to come.

But this event was a major embarassment for him, and a worrying sign. He was in the reddest of red states. Even if Tik Tok and K-pop had flamed him, even if people were worried about protesters, and all of that, there are enough pure-red Repubs in Oklahoma that he should have been able to pack that arena.

Instead it was half full or less.

And then there was the speech. As one commentator said, it was like watching a mash-up of all his previous speeches and Twitter rants over the past 4 years, with nothing new.

Racist gaslighting? Check.

Blaming 'Democrats'? Check.

Meandering stories 'explaining' his flubs? Check.

Lies, lies, and more lies? Check.

The crowd was looking for something new. But Season 2020 of the Trump Show is like the following seasons of The Apprentice... falling ratings because people have already seen it all. And like The Apprentice, all of his non-family members are fleeing the ship, leaving behind a sinking ship.

The Trumptanic has hit the iceberg. And nobody's saying "I'll never let go Donald, I'll never let go!"

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"When you do testing... you are going to find more people, you will find more cases," Trump argued.

"So I said to my people, 'slow the testing down.'"

And there you have it. Confession straight from the source.

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3 years and no new wars. Keep draining the swamp!

People will judge him by his actions and I’m certain he’ll win by a landslide.

it’s understandable the left wing media will use all their dirty tricks against him but it’s becoming increasingly obviously everyday that they really have no substance.

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Pure comedy.

Seeing trump coming up with 'witty' one liners including references to "kung flu" and finally being able to raise a cup of water to his lips like a normal human being, never laughed harder in my life.

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PenfoldToday  06:51 am JST

3 years and no new wars. Keep draining the swamp!

People will judge him by his actions and I’m certain he’ll win by a landslide.

Yet the only action you seem to be able to come up with is not starting another war.

it’s understandable the left wing media will use all their dirty tricks

What dirty tricks would those be? Can you provide any examples or did you just think that sounded good?

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He's lost three big cases in the courts and now he can't fill a venue. He's ten points down against a fairly weak opponent.

It's fascinating to watch this man implode. Only a few months ago his re-election looked quite likely and now it is slipping from his grasp.

He knows it and is absolutely crapping himself.

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3 years and no new wars. Keep draining the swamp!

The man isn't even capable of building a wall, let alone starting a war.

People will judge him by his actions and I’m certain he’ll win by a landslide.

We've seen him in action and now know more then ever that he is not for office.

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U.S. President Donald Trump's reelection campaign hit out at protesters and the media

Another example of Trump's ongoing attempts to disparage the US Constitution's right to peacefully assemble and right of a free press.

'media' in Trump/alt right dialect is a pejorative used to assail outlets that question him and his far right agenda.

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"So I said to my people, 'slow the testing down.'"

Also sprake the alt right messiah.

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Trump has something of an obsession with big crowds

Just like any self respecting wannabe dictator does.....

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ALL the big Mouths . are so happy now......... Why the 50000 seat stadium was not full..... People are watching it on the live... He spoke almost two hours... It has reached all corners of the world. Very good TV rating.....More than Trump supporters the so called ANTI -Trump gangs watched it more... He said whatever he wants to say to all......He has educated all the Antifa and communist liberals........Great job Trump... That was the purpose of the rally.

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Donald J. 'Rambling Speech' Trump. The man is a complete waste of time and space and oxygen.

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I have been watching Trump very closely. He is a fighter and a real interesting guy. But not good for America.

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I hope he have many rallies, filled with superspreaders

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Trump has lost whatever sense of reality he ever had. At his rally in Tulsa he demanded no masks in the midst of a pandemic. This inspired many of the faithful to stay away. Of those who came it is certain that a fair number will end up in ventilators or die.

Trump has even turn some Republicans against him. Romney, G.B. Bush, George F. Will and even loopy Ann Coulter.

Meanwhile, the U.S. is a medical, economic and moral disaster area thanks Trump.

I cannot wait to see the Republican. Convention.

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So basically, the Trump campaign spokesperson is saying that many of the MAGA tough guys didn't attend the rally because they were cowards.

LOL! She has that right. 

The rally backfired as badly as the church photo op did.

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Why the 50000 seat stadium was not full

19000 seat stadium.

People are watching it on the live... 

Excuses excuses.

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"The last time I saw a crowd this small was Trump's Inauguration," tweeted Pennsylvania congressman Brendan Boyle.

Hahaha!

Zing!

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Almost as embarrassing as the inauguration attendance, but way funnier. If tiktok teens can do this, Russia would’ve had no trouble.

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flubbed rally

Yeah, right. In Frankie TAGGART's mind. To everyone at the rally, it was a great rally.

The Trumptanic has hit the iceberg

Haha, be sure to have a good supply of tissues on Nov.4. :D

Seeing trump coming up with 'witty' one liners including references to "kung flu" and finally being able to raise a cup of water to his lips like a normal human being, never laughed harder in my life.

I prefer WuFlu myself. And he didn't want to ruin his silk tie. :D

I have been watching Trump very closely. He is a fighter and a real interesting guy. But not good for America.

You ain't been watching closely enough. He's great for America.

The rally backfired as badly as the church photo op did.

In your mind they backfired. Millions of patriotic Americans think otherwise.

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To everyone at the rally, it was a great rally.

Yeah, I hear they both had a wonderful time.

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2 important lessons.

Parscale’s career as a campaign manager is over.

trump’s career as president is over.

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This was the largest rally crowd ever. PERIOD. McEnany doesn't have the fire; Spicey, where are you when we need you? hahahaha!

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People didn't turn up in numbers because they were afraid of the virus. Simples.

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He's 74 years old and has a reported 10 billion dollars in the bank. 

The first part is correct, 2nd obviously not.

No one knows how rich/poor he is, but with his failing businesses he might not even have one billion.

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Bradscale will file for unemployment benefits soon.

trump will try to save his failing businesses, they are reportedly close to bankruptcy.

No one knows more about bankruptcy courts than trump, that one I will agree to.

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Monumental flub.

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To everyone at the rally, it was a great rally.

Yeah, I hear they both had a wonderful time.

So rainyday thinks there were only two people at the rally! Hahahahahahaha

Trump returned to the White House looking like a puppy with its tail between the legs, washed out!

In your mind. Not in reality.

Monumental flub.

How so? Because it wasn't packed to capacity? At least he held a rally, and an entertaining rally it was.

All Biden ever does is bark from his basement.

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"When you do testing... you are going to find more people, you will find more cases," Trump argued.

"So I said to my people, 'slow the testing down.'"

A White House official later told AFP that Trump was joking

Trump cracks ‘jokes‘ and uses ‘sarcasm’ that nobody gets. The few people in the audience didn’t laugh at his joke about reducing testing and his sarcasm about injecting disinfectant didn’t bring the house down either. His audience laughed and cheered when he called someone a ‘son of a bitch’ and so it’s not as if you can’t get a laugh out of them.

All very confusing.

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“Trump is trailing Biden by 9.5 points nationally”. Great, except the votes are not counted nationally! How is he doing in the critical swing states? The only ones that matter.

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6500 vs. 1,000,000. Even Donald Trump can do the math. Well, maybe not.

But his narcissism must be butt hurt something terrible.

How embarrassing. I feel bad for him and his cult. All 6501 of them.

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3 years and no new wars

Wrong.

He's in an endless war with reality, to which he is losing.

No new wars would mean that he has been a successful diplomat. I beg to differ, he almost started a war with North Korea his first year, raised tensions in Syria, Iran. Luckily there are checks and balances.

He almost ignited a 2nd Civil War with his rhetoric and failed leadership. The guy is as incompetent as they come.

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Trump only wants to stay in power so he can avoid spending the next 10 or so years (i.e. till he dies) in court every day!

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How is he doing in the critical swing states?

Badly. Biden is up in Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona according to the averages.

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So he’s saying the Democrats bought up all the tickets to the seats that were empty and blaming the protestors for obstructing entry. Easier on the ego.

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plus the 8.3 million who watched online on a weekend.

TiKToK trollers, etc.

Fool you once, shame on them, fool you twice, shame on you.

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I'm not saying that this is the end of Trump's campaign. For good or for ill, the Republican party is saddled with Donald Trump through at least November 3rd, and then January 20th, 2021.

January 20, 2024 to be exact.

And more than likely he'll occasionally kick up sparks and cinders in the years to come.

AS will the Democrats like they are continuing to do now.

But this event was a major embarassment for him, and a worrying sign.

Not really, they did however get caught flat-footed and that mistake won't happen again. Not to mention, we just re-opened after COVID-19 and a lot of people are still not coming out and still apprehensive about leaving their homes, not to mention this...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/style/tiktok-trump-rally-tulsa.html

This was the underlying reason and that mistake won't happen again, but as the days pass, more people wiill come out, now Biden, if the man can get 5 people that will be a monumental accomplishment for him.

He was in the reddest of red states. Even if Tik Tok and K-pop had flamed him, even if people were worried about protesters, and all of that, there are enough pure-red Repubs in Oklahoma that he should have been able to pack that arena.

Oh, stop! Most places aren't filled to capacity yet, it takes time. I can whizz through LA like never before and that is huge. Usually on the Freeways it's bumper to bumper and you'll be there all day, so this is a moment to enjoy, but all that will quickly end and we will be back to the nut and grind.

Instead it was half full or less.

And then there was the speech. As one commentator said, it was like watching a mash-up of all his previous speeches and Twitter rants over the past 4 years, with nothing new.

To liberals, it was, but to the rest of the country, it wasn't.

Racist gaslighting? Check.

Blaming 'Democrats'? Check.

Democrats ONLY traffic in race politics.

Lies, lies, and more lies? Check.

Dems have him beat 5 to 1 on that.

The crowd was looking for something new.

The crowd was and is still looking to make a comeback to life, because if Trump were in the dumps, he still wouldn't be hovering at 59% when it comes to the economy, so either the msm is lying, all of them or they are just hoping the average liberal is dumb and don't notice that crucial fact. Even the richest liberal won't support Biden, they may talk BS about Trump, but they know what a Biden Presidency on their overall pocket plan would do to them. Liberals are once again making the same mistake as they did 4 years ago. And Biden won't get a big chunk of the black vote because he won't defund the police, he's not that stupid and he's in a pickle for sure, because Dems need blacks in order to win elections otherwise they couldn't with their toxic socialist policies and Biden just won't go there.

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If Trump wins, we will see him really mess up in a way that he cannot get himself out of. He admits that he slowed down the COVID 19 testing, he is breaking down from all sides. No one believes him. He lost creditability with the American people and cannot govern effectively. Only the paid background supporters show Trump is great. Can't pay everyone Trump. And you cannot blame Obama for your fat either.

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Come January 2021 is my worry. It's what outsiders will do on that day. The newly sworn in president has to arrive running. China, Iran, North Korea, drug dealers, etc. will be making their move. Little time will be available for national issues. Will the winner be wise?

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Nov.4, 2020 Headline: Joe Biden President-elect

Xi Jinping: Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Yesterday was Summer Solstice which means Trump's days in office are getting shorter.

Zichi - everyone's days are getting shorter until Dec. 21 :D

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BTW, Isn't Tik Tok Chinese? Hmm. I smell something rotten. Let's see what the FBI & Co discover. Since when do youth in these numbers care about politics? Free tickets? Let's look into this (and other?) social media.

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If Trump wins, we will see him really mess up in a way that he cannot get himself out of.

No, we're going to see America greater than ever before.

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If Trump wins, we will see him really mess up in a way that he cannot get himself out of. He admits that he slowed down the COVID 19 testing, he is breaking down from all sides.

So he should listen to the experts, he shouldn't, he should lock the country down, he shouldn't, we shouldn't wear a mask, we should. It's not Trump, it's the so called experts, Trump gets scolded for not following them and then gets scolded for following them. Can liberals please stop flip flopping and take just one position?! So annoying!

No one believes him. He lost creditability with the American people and cannot govern effectively.

No one believes the Democrats of the experts either, the same thing.

Only the paid background supporters show Trump is great.

What? lol

Can't pay everyone Trump. And you cannot blame Obama for your fat either.

I don't know what fat has to do with anything, but whatever.....

Can't wait until the country is back in full swing again.

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I am sure he will win again!

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After the Tulsa snoozefest do we need any more confirmation that Trump's nasty rallies have jumped the shark? The rambling old windbag's speech sounded like air escaping from a tire and his interminable spiel witlessly whining over the saluting, shaking glass of water, silk tie and schlepping down the ramp was lame stand-up without a single laugh. If this is a "comeback", Trump is going to bore even his cult followers to death. Meanwhile, TickTok, TikTok... time is running out for Trump even though November is still 4 months away. As covid-19 cases surge Trump's gaslighting us about intimidation and violence from "the radical left" will ring hollow as he cancels his rallies and resorts to broadcasts from his bunker. Zzzzzzz.

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SerranoToday  08:11 am JST

In your mind they backfired. Millions of patriotic Americans think otherwise.

How many millions, would you say? It's obvious that... your sort like to think they're in a majority but the facts don't really seem to bear that out. I suspect that millions more Americans dismissed that rally as an embarrassing farce, although as we have all learned what most Americans think doesn't necessarily matter in presidential elections.

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I am sure he will win again!

I'm sure too, but then again, Biden does have his moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoTF4jQxCXM

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Biden would love to have a “flubbed” rally like that.

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I am sure he will win again!

Go bet everything you own on it, then. It's a sure thing! LOL.

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How many millions, would you say? It's obvious that... your sort like to think they're in a majority but the facts don't really seem to bear that out. I suspect that millions more Americans dismissed that rally as an embarrassing farce,

And millions didn't especially the ones that watched it at home.

although as we have all learned what most Americans think doesn't necessarily matter in presidential elections.

Brits have been saying that since we left that Island, nothing new and we take the same attitude now as back then, who cares if they approve or not, they can't vote, so for us it's just cute and funny hearing that every 8 years. LOL

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Trump campaign seeks to reset after flubbed rally

Flubbed? That's an understatement - it was a mega-failure...

The White House had promised Saturday's much-hyped event -- Trump's first rally in three months -- would be flooded with up to 100,000 people, but large sections of the 19,000-capacity BOK Center were empty.

The Tulsa Fire Dept out the crowd at 6200 - way less than half-filled. A disaster...

An outdoor event for the overflow crowd was canceled because no one showed up, despite the campaign claiming huge interest ahead of time and boasting more than a million ticket requests.

We'll hear that comment again on Nov 3rd - Trump lost in a landslide because "no one showed up"...

Trump has something of an obsession with big crowds, frequently boasting about the size of his rallies compared with those of Joe Biden, his Democratic rival for November's presidential election.

Is that ever true - which is why Trump showed a new picture of the crowd today - it showed 6200 people, and 15,000 stick figures drawn in Black Sharpie...

But several U.S. media outlets, citing multiple sources close to the White House, said he was "furious" at the small crowd in Tulsa.

Back to hiding in the bunker....

Parscale instead blamed the poor attendance on the "fake news media" for reporting on health concerns over the staging of a large indoor gathering during the coronavirus outbreak.

Hilarious - the media reported on what Trump's own CDC and Surgeon General advised - stay away from large indoor gatherings... More evidence the campaign is in meltdown...

The stakes could not be higher for Trump's political fortunes, five months before an election in which he is currently trailing Biden by 9.5 points nationwide, according to polling data aggregator RealClearPolitics.

And Fox News, yes Fox News, has him down 12 points....oh my...

What I noticed most was his profuse sweating - while spending 10 minutes trying to show he isn't a feeble old man, and failing, he turned red and started sweating and looked like he was ready to have a coronary...

Trump is not well - physically and mentally....I'm not sure he can make it to Nov....

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Flubbed? That's an understatement - it was a mega-failure...

And you rise up, Apple did, NASA, Hiroshima....

The Tulsa Fire Dept out the crowd at 6200 - way less than half-filled. A disaster...

2.5 million viewers, live streamed and and 4 million across the campaign's digital media channels hardly a disaster.

We'll hear that comment again on Nov 3rd - Trump lost in a landslide because "no one showed up"...

If the people want the anarchists to run the country, maybe. How's CHAP these days?

Back to hiding in the bunker....

Seems Biden will stay.

Trump's own CDC and Surgeon General advised - stay away from large indoor gatherings... More evidence the campaign is in meltdown...

Hmmm....but rioting thugs and protesters can march and gather. I guess the virus is politically adaptive and smart.

And Fox News, yes Fox News, has him down 12 points....oh my...

But 59% when it comes to the economy.

Trump is not well - physically and mentally....I'm not sure he can make it to Nov....

More like the msm aren't mentally smart because if they were they know Biden won't have any black supporters by then.

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For a damp squib, trump sure put up a bizarre performance.

He spent 12 minutes explaining his ramp shuffle at Westpoint, shows that the mockery really pricked him.

Then he talked bout slowing down testing so that the number of cases would go down.

Even for the not so smart right wing crowd, it appeared mind boggling.

A lot of them went silent, not able to make sense of the ramblings, cheering only when trump used the cuss word!!

If this is the performance trump is going with, Biden need not even go out, the election is his.

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Flubbed? That's an understatement - it was a mega-failure...

And you rise up, Apple did, NASA, Hiroshima....

Thanks for agreeing with me that it was a mega-failure - someone is starting to see the light...

The Tulsa Fire Dept out the crowd at 6200 - way less than half-filled. A disaster...

2.5 million viewers, live streamed and and 4 million across the campaign's digital media channels hardly a disaster.

And 2.4 million of those viewers were in Russia...

We'll hear that comment again on Nov 3rd - Trump lost in a landslide because "no one showed up"...

If the people want the anarchists to run the country, maybe. How's CHAP these days?

Is that a friend of Stormy?

Back to hiding in the bunker....

Seems Biden will stay.

Did Donald invite him again?

*Trump's own CDC and Surgeon General advised** - stay away from large indoor gatherings... More evidence the campaign is in meltdown...*

Hmmm....but rioting thugs and protesters can march and gather. I guess the virus is politically adaptive and smart.

Ask the 6200 who sat in the virus pool last night how they feel in 10-14 days...

*And Fox News, yes Fox News, has him down 12 points....oh my...*

But 59% when it comes to the economy.

BINGO! And even with that he's still 12 points down... Cooked, done, finito...

Trump is not well - physically and mentally....I'm not sure he can make it to Nov....

More like the msm aren't mentally smart because if they were they know Biden won't have any black supporters by then.

Sure, they'll vote for the guy that gave the Medal of Freedom to the racist that said "take that bone out of your nose...

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6.7 million people watching the President either on TV or the internet does not make the peaceful protest in Tulsa a "flubbed rally".

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America is in depression. 40 million claiming unemployment. Tens of millions rely on food banks to feed their kids. Millions can't pay mortgage or rents. 120,000 Covid-19 dead.

And the answer to that is more socialism? Again, Biden will lose millions of blacks once he says for the record he will never defund the police, it's over for Biden

Trump hasn't enough time to fix it all.

2024 should be able to fix a lot.

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Thanks for agreeing

I never did, nice try.

And 2.4 million of those viewers were in Russia...

According to Jim Acosta? ROFL

Ask the 6200 who sat in the virus pool last night how they feel in 10-14 days...

So all those rioters and looters will be filling up the ICU across the country very soon.

BINGO! And even with that he's still 12 points down... Cooked, done, finito...

Not when it comes to the economy. Socialism needs to take a raincheck....

Sure, they'll vote for the guy that gave the Medal of Freedom to the racist that said "take that bone out of your nose...

Yes, "vote for me or you ain't black", that's a seller right there. lol

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bass4funk: "2.5 million viewers, live streamed and and 4 million across the campaign's digital media channels hardly a disaster"

Except that Trump bragged for weeks that not only would the venue be packed, and be safe, but that they would rent an additional adjoining space for tens of thousands more, only to see the main venue with... what... 30% capacity filled? hahaha. Oh, you know Trump is not happy about that, and that it was a disaster. If Trump only cared about digital views he'd have helped it with an empty stadium in front of a laptop. And the funniest part about the whole thing is that to "reset" their bungled start they would learn their lesson and not hold this kind of thing again, but we know that'll last about as long as Trump's vows to stop giving press interviews.

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6.7 million people watching the President either on TV or the internet does not make the peaceful protest in Tulsa a "flubbed rally".

Half of those were watching for the comedy value. Whilst at the same time many many millions more Americans were playing smartphone games or watching another channel. Don’t get too excited about that number, it means diddly squat.

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6.7 million people watching the President either on TV or the internet does not make the peaceful protest in Tulsa a "flubbed rally".

Now you're saying something liberals will not talk, touch or be honest about, they don't want to hear that, it hurts their Trump attack narrative, it's easier for them to feel emotionally better if they can focus only on the stadium attendance part. Focusing on Partial and selective attacks is what makes liberals shine with pride and gives their base hope. Don't rob them of that.

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I really dont know what people here are going to do when Trump wins again.

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Thanks for agreeing

I never did, nice try.

Never did? Why do you deny reality - its right above for everyone to see...

And 2.4 million of those viewers were in Russia...

According to Jim Acosta? ROFL

Vladimir Putin - Trump's Shadow Campaign Manager...

Ask the 6200 who sat in the virus pool last night how they feel in 10-14 days...

So all those rioters and looters will be filling up the ICU across the country very soon.

Did Trump's team really hand out stickers to all the attendees; "I'm a Trump Super-Spreader"....

BINGO! And even with that he's still 12 points down... Cooked, done, finito...

Not when it comes to the economy. Socialism needs to take a raincheck....

Yea, just when it comes to the election - down double digits...finito....

Sure, they'll vote for the guy that gave the Medal of Freedom to the racist that said "take that bone out of your nose...

Yes, "vote for me or you ain't black", that's a seller right there. lol

And remember, you defended him discriminating against black renters in the 70's...

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Except that Trump bragged for weeks that not only would the venue be packed, and be safe, but that they would rent an additional adjoining space for tens of thousands more, only to see the main venue with... what... 30% capacity filled? hahaha.

It is funny, got scammed by China and their Tik Tok baby brand, but that mistake won't happen again.

Oh, you know Trump is not happy about that, and that it was a disaster.

Yes and No. Visually, it wasn't that great, but streaming and online, massive success.

If Trump only cared about digital views he'd have helped it with an empty stadium in front of a laptop.

You live and learn. Wish Dems would learn after 4 years.

And the funniest part about the whole thing is that to "reset" their bungled start they would learn their lesson and not hold this kind of thing again,

If the protesters can go out, so can Trump supporters even if the virus is politically selective.

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all the mockery wont change a single vote.

So unless the Dems plan on getting the supposed China sponsored TikTok teens to rig the election too, its irrelevant.

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Never did? Why do you deny reality

Not me, liberals....

Yea, just when it comes to the election - down double digits...finito....

But double digits on the economy...pheeew...

And remember, you defended him discriminating against black renters in the 70's...

Biden and his crime bill has incarcerated more blacks than any other crime bill and that guy wants Kamala Harris? Another liberal that caused so much misery by locking up so many blacks, not to mention Biden won't defund the police....keep it coming Joe! Throw more wrenches in your campaign.

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Never did? Why do you deny reality

Not me, liberals....

Sure. Me: "It was a mega-failure"... Bass: "And you rise up"

Gotcha...

Yea, just when it comes to the election - down double digits...finito....

But double digits on the economy...pheeew...

It's not Economy vs Biden, it Trump vs Biden - and in that poll he's down 12 points. Finito...

And remember, you defended him discriminating against black renters in the 70's...

Biden and his crime bill has incarcerated more blacks than any other crime bill and that guy wants Kamala Harris? Another liberal that caused so much misery by locking up so many blacks, not to mention Biden won't defund the police....keep it coming Joe! Throw more wrenches in your campaign.

Still agree with him discriminating against renting to blacks?

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Ahh silly me. Forgot I had tickets for that.

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The biggest worry for trump's campaign isn't the low turnout and the lack of interest in his racist agenda.

It is more on trump unraveling day after day, every time he opens his mouth he sounds even more bizarre.

Now that even Bolton has spoken of voting for Biden, you cannot call Trump's base right- wing.

The only people who will support him in the end are the die-hard racists, whose only hope of returning to an old America is the failed, corrupt businessman in power.

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It was actually South Korean K-pop fans. Nothing to do with China. Yes it will happen again.

And Tic Tok which is owned by China, so yes, it has everything to do with China and No, it won't happen again, because for one thing it never happened before, so there is no way they will allow that to happen again.

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already debunked as fake news, sorry.

Now that even Bolton has spoken of voting for Biden, you cannot call Trump's base right- wing.

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Sure. Me: "It was a mega-failure"... Bass: "And you rise up"

6.7 is a lot of viewers, success,

It's not Economy vs Biden,

It's always about the economy, just disputing that shows that liberals are once again bad when it comes to money management. But numbers not moving and still at 59% on the economy, that's fantastic.

Still agree with him discriminating against renting to blacks?

You think Biden is a racist for saying "y'all don't vote for me, you ain't black?"

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I really dont know what people here are going to do when Trump wins again.

It's fun playing imaginary futures!!

Wait. Lemmesee...oh, I know...we all go to the Men's World Cup and watch Japan and the USA in the final, with the USA becoming World Cup futbol champion. Trump says, 'that's not real football' and refuses to acknowledge them, until he realizes it's a great photo op, so he takes them to the church across the street and holds up a soccer ball, upside down. He tries with one hand, but drops it....hand too small/can't hold things....so he uses both hands. What a sporting man!

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“Flubbed”? With a minimum of 1 million viewers at home, hardly. Typical left wing commentary.

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Sure. Me: "It was a mega-failure"... Bass: "And you rise up"

6.7 is a lot of viewers, success,

Hmmmm.....so first you agree it was a mega-failure, now trying to spin it as a success.... That sounds like Rudy; "He's innocent, he's guilty"...

It's not Economy vs Biden,

It's always about the economy, just disputing that shows that liberals are once again bad when it comes to money management. But numbers not moving and still at 59% on the economy, that's fantastic.

Same Fox poll - The economy is poor - 71%..... Finito....

Still agree with him discriminating against renting to blacks?

You think Biden is a racist for saying "y'all don't vote for me, you ain't black?"

I asked first...

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The biggest worry for trump's campaign isn't the low turnout and the lack of interest in his racist agenda.

No, we just came out of a 3 month hiatus lockdown, if 6.7 million watched that's astounding, wait until they can all get out again. Let's see if Biden can get even 1/3 most blacks won't show especially since he said, he won't defund the police.

It is more on trump unraveling day after day, every time he opens his mouth he sounds even more bizarre.

He sounds the same as I know him since I was in high school, confident, cocky, the you know, usual. lol! love it!

Now that even Bolton has spoken of voting for Biden, you cannot call Trump's base right- wing.

No, Bolton will not be voting for Biden, please don't tell that farce. This is how fake news starts. Bolton may be desperate for a book deal, but voting for a liberal is just unthinkable for a hawkish guy like that.

The only people who will support him in the end are the die-hard racists,

So racists minorities will vote for Biden? I can see that actually happening.

whose only hope of returning to an old America is the failed, corrupt businessman in power.

So we should allow the anarchist thugs to run and ruin the country and turn it into another Mogadishu? Nice....

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Yes imaginary futures were fun in Oct 22, 2016 too. Its only June 2020, still a looooong way to go.

"Using her most dismissive language of the campaign — “I don’t even think about responding to him anymore” — Clinton said Saturday she is now more focused on electing other Democrats in the final days of the 2016 campaign than her Republican opponent.

It was the surest declaration of confidence yet from a candidate and a campaign that enters the home stretch in so commanding a position that they are redirecting cash and manpower to traditionally red states, including Arizona, Missouri, Indiana and Georgia."

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Hmmmm.....so first you agree it was a mega-failure,

No, I didn't

now trying to spin it as a success....

6.7 viewers is a success. Not spinning anything. I didn't tell these people to watch? Don't blame me.

Same Fox poll - The economy is poor - 71%..... Finito....

And the same poll has him at 59% on the economy...coming back baby!

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Seems to me that the ONLY way he can win is if the Electoral College gives it to him again. Clinton beat him by almost 3 million votes, and Biden is looking to do even better than that. And yet, for the third time in the last four elections, the Electoral College may override the will of the people.

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Hmmmm.....so first you agree it was a mega-failure,

No, I didn't

More denial of your own words... OK, just don't expect anyone to believe anything you say if you deny it one post later...

now trying to spin it as a success....

6.7 viewers is a success. Not spinning anything. I didn't tell these people to watch? Don't blame me.

The ones in Russia?

Same Fox poll - The economy is poor - 71%..... Finito....

And the same poll has him at 59% on the economy...coming back baby!

And losing to Biden by 12....Finito...

And don't dodge, still agree with him discriminating against black renters?

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largest Biden rally, the day he announced, before anyone knew something is wrong with him. Still smaller than this supposed disappointing Trump rally.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/28/biden-energy-crisis-1345359

Last Saturday, when Biden held a rally for his headquarters’ opening in Philadelphia, his campaign estimated the crowd size was 6,000 — a count that some local observers thought might be generous. One local elected Democrat who supports Biden privately told POLITICO the rally was smaller and less energetic than expected.

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I didn't see everything, only the low-lights. Was there a ramp?

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More denial of your own words...

No denial, sorry.

just don't expect anyone to believe anything you say if you deny it one post later...

Or you...

And losing to Biden by 12....Finito..

But holding steady on the economy at 59%

And don't dodge, still agree with him discriminating against black renters?

I didn't, but you think Biden's racist remarks should be overlooked just because you guys hate Trump? Two standards?

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Biden is up in Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona according to the averages.

Two things:

The poll averages cited are of "registered" voters that are heavily weighted toward democrats.

Any poll numbers don't mean anything this far out before the general election. Things that will decide who will win in November have not even happened yet. Example: the "Access Hollywood" tape October Surprise was released just weeks before Nov. 8, 2016. It wound up being a horrible bust for the democrats.
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Plus all the polls are like Biden 48-35 in the lead.

Who is everyone else voting for, as thats not 100%?

Why did they only ask only 25% Republicans when 33% of the vote was Republican last time?

How can Trump approval be 42% in a poll, yet the same poll of likely voters it claims only 35% will vote for him?

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Really? How many of those live, at the stadium that Trump and the WH said would be so packed it would spill over into other venues?

Again, let's take this nice and slow. Even if the venue wasn't packed, you have to count the people that were watching, you can't dismiss that, that would be political suicide. Of course you have to count them and factor them in, so going that that, it was very huge. I was one of those that was watching.

if he promised that, and it did not happen, it is by definition a failure.

For the seats and having saying they would be packed to a point on that promise given why and how these teens sabotaged it, but watching and online an astounding amount.

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And don't dodge, still agree with him discriminating against black renters?

I didn't, but you think Biden's racist remarks should be overlooked just because you guys hate Trump? Two standards?

You didn't? I see we're going full flip-flop today....

It's in your archive - you supported Trump's discrimination against renting to blacks - you said it was "understandable"....

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You didn't?

I did not and was totally accurate.

It's in your archive -

So will you liberals support Biden or call him out for his comments and the crime bill he wrote?

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bass, could you actually answer the question? No counter questions, no "b-b-b-but whatabout", just answer.

Unless you're afraid.

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No, we're going to see America greater than ever before.

how will it be greater than ever before, its considerably worse off than when Trump came into power.

MAGA 2020 dump Trump, vote for your lives, vote for America

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I think we have a new phrase now ' to get Tulsaed'

'To be fooled into a believing oneself in a position of strength and getting humiliated'

trump sure got Tulsaed.

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So you are a coward, thank you for confirming.

No, just don't like the liberal one-sided hypocrisy. 

MAGA 2020 dump Trump, vote for your lives, vote for America

Not unless you want a racist that wrote a crime bill that destroyed millions of black lives, they're predators as he once said. Can't wait for the debate when he gets asked that question and this time Jill can't hold his hand. 

thats all theyre got left, nothing of substance to defend Trump anymore, just deflection and whataboutism

And liberals have zero excuses and nothing. Speaking of deflections, how long do liberals think they can hide Biden and all of his toxic bandage? When the debates start, watch Biden screw up, this is why the Dems are worried, very worried because they know he will be crushed by Trump and rest assured, he won't be holding back.

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at some point, some day, Biden will need to come out of hiding. He has many things to answer for, as well as a laundry list of past comments and political positions that were not favorable to Blacks to answer for.

He isnt even finished with the radio interview yet, Charlamagne says he has more questions. That was disastrous last time, as it was live and no script.

At some point, there will also need to be a Biden rally, and several debates. Several hours of uninterrupted speaking without a gaffe when he hasnt proven he can go more than 10 mins. Challenging, for sure.

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