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If Pence were the candidate I'd vote for him in a flash. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Trump starts frothing at the mouth at the last debate.

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Clearly Pence is extricating himself from the Trump train wreck and readying for his own 2020 run.

Trump supporters,

Give good solid reasons why others and I should vote Trump.

I don't want to hear about Clinton, her flaws, nor do I want hear about how the election is rigged.

I'm listening.

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Trump charges U.S. election results being rigged

get some monitors from 3rd world countries.

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I don't really see anything that off the mark with his statements. Philadelphia is always a perennial example of fraud as Gingrich cited today but there were actual arrests last year. The FBI is also actively investigating voters in Colorado, Virginia and multiple other swing states casting ballots months, and in some cases years after their deaths, The fraud was so pervasive in Chicago 10 years ago that the Indiana Supreme Court overturned the results of the primary and ordered a new special election that resulted in a different winner. So while 'many' doesn't necessarily imply a large scale conspiracy no one can reasonably argue it is useful to keep in mind how easy it is to subvert an election system:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Philadelphia-Election-Officials-Voter-Fraud-Election-Fraud-304185341.html

Philly Election Officials Charged With Election Fraud

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Sore losers sounds more accurate to me. Every election will have some people trying to rig it, but rather than widespread as Donnie and his followers would have you believe, its very small scale and few and far between. No wear near enogh to make any difference. For those with actual proof of the opposite, im all ears... (and i do mean actual, not some column of hearsay or a youtube vid of someone claiming he saw it happen)

Truth hurts.

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Just because you can’t turn on a television or a radio without hearing about how Donald Trump’s campaign is struggling doesn't make it so. He said himself in New Hampshire this weekend that internal poll numbers are very strong. The bottom lines remain: 1. The polls are tight, and that’s always bad for the perceived incumbent.

I only see Trump signs on the same streets where I had seen numerous Obama signs.

Trump is still keeping a large ad campaign reserve on hand.
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He said himself in New Hampshire this weekend that internal poll numbers are very strong.

Then why's he complaining?

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(sigh)

Ok I'll rephrase to avoid the deletion.

This is a portion of the revelations from last week that are not receiving their due investigative treatment. Pay special attention to the bit about receiving 'gift' from a known terrorism supporter. How anyone can continue to push this individual as the viable alternative is simply vile.

Clinton Foundation donors expected “benefits in return for gifts.”

The Daily Caller uncovered an independent “governance review” by a law firm that specializes in nonprofits. The review was requested by Mrs. Clinton’s daughter Chelsea who had concerns about the Clinton Foundation and potential conflict-of-interests with its donors, and was sharply opposed by her father’s friends and donors. The review, conducted in December 2010, concluded many of the foundation’s donors had “an expectation of a quid pro quo benefits in return for gifts.”

Obama’s Cabinet picked by Citigroup executive — during the bailout — a month before the election.

The New Republic uncovered an email from Michael Froman, who was an executive at Citigroup during 2008’s election, that listed potential Cabinet picks in an Obama administration, a month before the general election. The bank was being bailed out at the time.

The revelations reinforce “the need for critical scrutiny of Hillary Clinton, and for advocacy to ensure the next transition doesn’t go like the last, at least with respect to the same old Democrats scooping up all the positions of power well in advance,” the New Republic wrote.

Mrs. Clinton tried to save a profitable Wall Street speech before her campaign launch. Mrs. Clinton didn’t want her husband’s speech before Morgan Stanley to be canceled before her campaign rollout, despite the bad optics, Breitbart reported.

“HRC very strongly did not want him to cancel that particular speech,” Huma Abedin said. “I will have to tell her that WJC chose to cancel it, not that we asked.”

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook argued that continuing on with the speech would be a political risk, saying it would be “begging for a bad rollout.”

Qatar, an Islamic State funder, gave former President Bill Clinton $1 million for his birthday.

Qatar gave the Clinton Foundation $1 million for Mr. Clinton’s birthday present in 2012. Ami Desai, director of foreign policy for the Clinton Foundation, told several staffers about the check.

“[Qatar] Would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” Mr. Desai wrote.

In a 2014 email, Mrs. Clinton said Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both giving financial and logistical support to the Islamic State terror group and other extremist Sunni groups.

Mrs. Clinton team poll-tested attacks on Obama’s Muslim heritage.

An email exchange between Mr. Podesta, Paul Begala and a Clinton pollster worked a list of negatives about Mr. Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign. The pollster wrote, “we have reworked the Obama message into the survey as requested,” and then lists the negatives, including: “* 7 Obama (owe-BAHM-uh)’s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world’s most populous Islamic country.”

Mr. Begala told the New York Post on Thursday that the poll was to test potential right-wing attacks on Mr. Obama to prepare him for the general election and was not used by the Clinton campaign.

Mrs. Clinton discussed hiding emails from Mr. Obama, then deleted them.

On March 4, 2015, Mr. Podesta wrote Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer Cheryl Mills about hiding Mrs. Clinton’s emails to Mr. Obama from congressional investigators. The day before, her team was subpoenaed to turn over all of Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

“Think we should hold emails to and from potus?” Mr. Podesta asked. “That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but seems like they will.” Three weeks later, Mrs. Clinton’s team BleachBit more than 33,000 emails.

Mrs. Clinton’s spokesman urged her to lie to the public on whether she sent classified information.

Bloomberg News reported Mrs. Clinton’s campaign spokesman Brian Fallon urged her to issue a blanket denial that she ever sent classified information through her private email server because anything less could open her up to charges she broke the law.

“We should not think it is fine to find something that ‘should have been classified at the time,’ ” Mr. Fallon, the spokesman, wrote to other top campaign officials on Aug. 22, 2015, as they debated a statement Mrs. Clinton would make on her use of an email server in her home.

“Our position is that no such material exists, else it could be said she mishandled classified info,” Mr. Fallon wrote

Moderator: Sorry, this comment is not for this particular story.

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Not a chance in hell of him getting in, of course, unless Wikileaks drops the bomb on Hillary, but if he doesn't, I hope Trump stays in the loop. His comments are entertaining, random and often just plain silly, but they do make people think.

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Clearly out of his mind, and he's now challenging a fellow presidential candidate to take a drug test. You couldn't make this stuff up if you had to. And yes, that private email server issue is really on a par with Watergate and Iran-Contra.

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Trump has probably heard that he's already way behind thanks to those voting early. Can he really be surprised that he's so far behind based on the ridiculous things he keeps coming out with?

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nadaku: No wear near enogh to make any difference. For those with actual proof of the opposite, im all ears... (and i do mean actual, not some column of hearsay or a youtube vid of someone claiming he saw it happen)

turbotsat: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/08/19/surprise-nonexistent-voter-fraud-strikes-in-four-states-n2206947

... The Heritage Foundation has compiled a database of hundreds of fraud cases nationwide -- and those only count the people who were caught. ...

The database:

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-8-7-15-Merged.pdf

A Sampling of Election Fraud Cases from Across the Country

turbotsat: ... a (mostly non-partisan!) interesting discussion of voting fraud in recent presidential elections, but unfortunately not including the last two (and note the list is not just a list, but a list of descriptions of the frauds benefiting each of the presidents Truman (D), Kennedy (D), Johnson (D), Nixon (R), Carter (D), and G. W. Bush (R)):

http://rangevoting.org/PresFraud.html

US Presidents and Election Fraud

Many people, even after the 1876 Hayes vs. Tilden and Florida 2000 Bush vs. Gore elections, still believed that election fraud was a relatively rare event in the USA, especially as regards presidents, and exerted a relatively small effect on history.

That perception is false. In fact, election fraud has exerted a very large effect on US (and hence world) history. Indeed, it has been one of the largest factors affecting post-World-War-II US history. To show that, we will now detail the fact that of the 11 US Presidents since World War II, the careers of at least 6 depended crucially on election fraud.

If you can name any other factor which created 6 or more out of 11 US presidents, please do. We suspect you can't name very many, in which case you agree with us that election fraud has been one of the pre-eminent factors altering US and world history. Bet you didn't learn that as a schoolchild, did you? Gee, I wonder why.

The list: ...

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Trump has probably heard that he's already way behind thanks to those voting early.

I think you are the one accepting misleading headlines. When you look at the charts in these article they are quite favorable for Trump in Florida, NC and Iowa both for today and when compared to 2012 results...Expect the best but prepare for the worst.

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Trump is right about the rigging. His Russian friends ARE trying very hard to rig our election...

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Amazing how things change. Now it's the left and Democrats screaming "the Russians are coming!" And the one candidate who speaks against those war drums is called a loony.

I hope they confine those nuclear targets to the cities that support this madness at least.

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The third and final debate between Trump and Clinton will be on Wednesday in Las Vegas.

Viva Las Vegas. RIP Trump.

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@Lizz Trump has damaged his own campaign nobody else you dont need to be a member of Mensa to work that out..Maybe he should be charged with treason after he is done and dusted.

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If you want to be wrong every single time, think to yourself, "This is the lowest. Donnie stubby-nubs couldn't possibly sink lower than this." You'll be wrong. Every. Single. Time.

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commanteerOCT. 17, 2016 - 09:26AM JST

Now it's the left and Democrats screaming "the Russians are coming!"

You're talking about the accusations that they're trying to influence the election? Now, who else has been saying the Russians are involved... oh, yes - Mike Pence.

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If Trump loses big, he wouldn't have to worry about it

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We know exactly how many cases of voting fraud have taken place in recent years: 31, out of 1 billion votes cast. Trump is such a numbskull that he doesn't realise that literally nobody outside his cocoon believes this nonsense. He has contradicted Pence in public for the second time in seven days on this. Pence should walk before he is irreparably damaged (not that I would care if he was, mind, but for his own sake...).

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Its obvious he has to be aware of the rigged being rigged. Theres so much rigged and slimy behaviour going on it`s ridiculous.

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if anybody still remembers Bush beat Gore during their campaign, but Gore actually won the popular vote. So too lose an election when the majority of the voting population actually voted for you shows there are flaws. Although I doubt Trump will get enough votes to claim flaws/rigged system

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Well, I guess the pollsters have just been so darn accurate this year! I mean didn`t they say it would be be impossible for Trump to become the nominee? And what about the BREXIT? I thought the BREXIT was also impossible?

And now to be worried about voter fraud? Im pretty sure you dont need to provide any kind of photo ID or any other kind of ID when you go to the voting booths. WHAT A FOOL PROOF METHOD! And, according to evidence leaked by wikileaks documents, dead people did vote in the primary as well as illegal immigrants.

But I think team Obama, whoops, I mean Hillary, are starting to paint this big picture that Russia hacked into the DNC. Now Joe Biden made a public announcement that the US is going to cyber attack Russia? THINK ABOUT THAT! A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT by the VP??????? Sounds like this will lead to a retaliation ... perhaps on voting day.... just by coincidence of course....

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And yes, that private email server issue is really on a par with Watergate and Iran-Contra. what next? youll be saying 9/11 was an inside job!?

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Donald Trump was informed in official security briefings that Russia was behind the Podesta email hack. Not a theory, but an objective fact. The response? He chose to ignore it because it didn't suit his agenda. This is the kind of idiot we are dealing with here.

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Moderator, what exactly are you trying to point out in my comment? I'm not being derogatory at all. This is discourse after all no?

hillary received funds through her sketchy husband from terror supporting entities. How is this alone not a bombshell revelation?

Here's that and other indiscretions not being covered as much as trumps.

(sigh)

Ok I'll rephrase to avoid the deletion.

This is a portion of the revelations from last week that are not receiving their due investigative treatment. Pay special attention to the bit about receiving 'gift' from a known terrorism supporter. How anyone can continue to push this individual as the viable alternative is simply vile.

Clinton Foundation donors expected “benefits in return for gifts.”

The Daily Caller uncovered an independent “governance review” by a law firm that specializes in nonprofits. The review was requested by Mrs. Clinton’s daughter Chelsea who had concerns about the Clinton Foundation and potential conflict-of-interests with its donors, and was sharply opposed by her father’s friends and donors. The review, conducted in December 2010, concluded many of the foundation’s donors had “an expectation of a quid pro quo benefits in return for gifts.”

Obama’s Cabinet picked by Citigroup executive — during the bailout — a month before the election.

The New Republic uncovered an email from Michael Froman, who was an executive at Citigroup during 2008’s election, that listed potential Cabinet picks in an Obama administration, a month before the general election. The bank was being bailed out at the time.

The revelations reinforce “the need for critical scrutiny of Hillary Clinton, and for advocacy to ensure the next transition doesn’t go like the last, at least with respect to the same old Democrats scooping up all the positions of power well in advance,” the New Republic wrote.

Mrs. Clinton tried to save a profitable Wall Street speech before her campaign launch. Mrs. Clinton didn’t want her husband’s speech before Morgan Stanley to be canceled before her campaign rollout, despite the bad optics, Breitbart reported.

“HRC very strongly did not want him to cancel that particular speech,” Huma Abedin said. “I will have to tell her that WJC chose to cancel it, not that we asked.”

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook argued that continuing on with the speech would be a political risk, saying it would be “begging for a bad rollout.”

Qatar, an Islamic State funder, gave former President Bill Clinton $1 million for his birthday.

Qatar gave the Clinton Foundation $1 million for Mr. Clinton’s birthday present in 2012. Ami Desai, director of foreign policy for the Clinton Foundation, told several staffers about the check.

“[Qatar] Would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” Mr. Desai wrote.

In a 2014 email, Mrs. Clinton said Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both giving financial and logistical support to the Islamic State terror group and other extremist Sunni groups.

Mrs. Clinton team poll-tested attacks on Obama’s Muslim heritage.

An email exchange between Mr. Podesta, Paul Begala and a Clinton pollster worked a list of negatives about Mr. Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign. The pollster wrote, “we have reworked the Obama message into the survey as requested,” and then lists the negatives, including: “* 7 Obama (owe-BAHM-uh)’s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world’s most populous Islamic country.”

Mr. Begala told the New York Post on Thursday that the poll was to test potential right-wing attacks on Mr. Obama to prepare him for the general election and was not used by the Clinton campaign.

Mrs. Clinton discussed hiding emails from Mr. Obama, then deleted them.

On March 4, 2015, Mr. Podesta wrote Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer Cheryl Mills about hiding Mrs. Clinton’s emails to Mr. Obama from congressional investigators. The day before, her team was subpoenaed to turn over all of Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

“Think we should hold emails to and from potus?” Mr. Podesta asked. “That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but seems like they will.” Three weeks later, Mrs. Clinton’s team BleachBit more than 33,000 emails.

Mrs. Clinton’s spokesman urged her to lie to the public on whether she sent classified information.

Bloomberg News reported Mrs. Clinton’s campaign spokesman Brian Fallon urged her to issue a blanket denial that she ever sent classified information through her private email server because anything less could open her up to charges she broke the law.

“We should not think it is fine to find something that ‘should have been classified at the time,’ ” Mr. Fallon, the spokesman, wrote to other top campaign officials on Aug. 22, 2015, as they debated a statement Mrs. Clinton would make on her use of an email server in her home.

“Our position is that no such material exists, else it could be said she mishandled classified info,” Mr. Fallon wrote

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He's right. California is already doing it. Good lord, No one is surprise. Just another day in the world of liberals lies and cover ups. Smh.

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I think Trump is completely unqualified and would be dangerous as a President. However there are very good arguments against Ms. Clinton here. It was interesting to hear Jill Stein's point of view indicating she finds Ms. Clinton more dangerous than Mr. Trump. I agree with her partially, however seeing how easily rattled Trump is I find that a bit unsettling as well.

@Bertie Wooster - I agree with you on this one. I think there is a very little chance Trump will win. If he loses I would also like to see him engaged some how. As you correctly pointed out some of the things he has said (although like a bull in a china shop in many cases) have made people think. Opposing views are always welcome.

However the U.S. seems to be going the other way. Controversial views are being squelched and some universities are now providing segregated housing!! This seems like a huge step backwards!

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That doesn't happen in America lol!!

Will never forget Bushes second term and they found mass votes in a school shed. Yes they got used and helped bush win lol.

Trump has good reason to think this will happen.

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@Bububu

Are you refering to the $6 million the Clinton Campaign paid for people to troll online? Otherwise I`m not following and you must be off topic.

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(sigh)

Ok I'll rephrase to avoid the deletion.

This is a portion of the revelations from last week that are not receiving their due investigative treatment. Pay special attention to the bit about receiving 'gift' from a known terrorism supporter. How anyone can continue to push this individual as the viable alternative is simply vile.

Clinton Foundation donors expected “benefits in return for gifts.”

The Daily Caller uncovered an independent “governance review” by a law firm that specializes in nonprofits. The review was requested by Mrs. Clinton’s daughter Chelsea who had concerns about the Clinton Foundation and potential conflict-of-interests with its donors, and was sharply opposed by her father’s friends and donors. The review, conducted in December 2010, concluded many of the foundation’s donors had “an expectation of a quid pro quo benefits in return for gifts.”

Obama’s Cabinet picked by Citigroup executive — during the bailout — a month before the election.

The New Republic uncovered an email from Michael Froman, who was an executive at Citigroup during 2008’s election, that listed potential Cabinet picks in an Obama administration, a month before the general election. The bank was being bailed out at the time.

The revelations reinforce “the need for critical scrutiny of Hillary Clinton, and for advocacy to ensure the next transition doesn’t go like the last, at least with respect to the same old Democrats scooping up all the positions of power well in advance,” the New Republic wrote.

Mrs. Clinton tried to save a profitable Wall Street speech before her campaign launch. Mrs. Clinton didn’t want her husband’s speech before Morgan Stanley to be canceled before her campaign rollout, despite the bad optics, Breitbart reported.

“HRC very strongly did not want him to cancel that particular speech,” Huma Abedin said. “I will have to tell her that WJC chose to cancel it, not that we asked.”

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook argued that continuing on with the speech would be a political risk, saying it would be “begging for a bad rollout.”

Qatar, an Islamic State funder, gave former President Bill Clinton $1 million for his birthday.

Qatar gave the Clinton Foundation $1 million for Mr. Clinton’s birthday present in 2012. Ami Desai, director of foreign policy for the Clinton Foundation, told several staffers about the check.

“[Qatar] Would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” Mr. Desai wrote.

In a 2014 email, Mrs. Clinton said Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both giving financial and logistical support to the Islamic State terror group and other extremist Sunni groups.

Mrs. Clinton team poll-tested attacks on Obama’s Muslim heritage.

An email exchange between Mr. Podesta, Paul Begala and a Clinton pollster worked a list of negatives about Mr. Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign. The pollster wrote, “we have reworked the Obama message into the survey as requested,” and then lists the negatives, including: “* 7 Obama (owe-BAHM-uh)’s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world’s most populous Islamic country.”

Mr. Begala told the New York Post on Thursday that the poll was to test potential right-wing attacks on Mr. Obama to prepare him for the general election and was not used by the Clinton campaign.

Mrs. Clinton discussed hiding emails from Mr. Obama, then deleted them.

On March 4, 2015, Mr. Podesta wrote Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer Cheryl Mills about hiding Mrs. Clinton’s emails to Mr. Obama from congressional investigators. The day before, her team was subpoenaed to turn over all of Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

“Think we should hold emails to and from potus?” Mr. Podesta asked. “That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but seems like they will.” Three weeks later, Mrs. Clinton’s team BleachBit more than 33,000 emails.

Mrs. Clinton’s spokesman urged her to lie to the public on whether she sent classified information.

Bloomberg News reported Mrs. Clinton’s campaign spokesman Brian Fallon urged her to issue a blanket denial that she ever sent classified information through her private email server because anything less could open her up to charges she broke the law.

“We should not think it is fine to find something that ‘should have been classified at the time,’ ” Mr. Fallon, the spokesman, wrote to other top campaign officials on Aug. 22, 2015, as they debated a statement Mrs. Clinton would make on her use of an email server in her home.

“Our position is that no such material exists, else it could be said she mishandled classified info,” Mr. Fallon wrote

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in trying to get other people to place as much importance on these email leaks as they do, and not succeeding.

This is not about who comes out on top. It's about being above the dirty shenanigans perpetrated by both individuals. Or am I to assume that Clinton receiving a one million dollar so called gift from terrorist enablers doesnt rub you the wrong way?

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Strangerland - I am not a Trump supporter but there is alot to the e-mail leaks that show the duplicity of Ms. Clinton. Also relative to Benghazi I do not believe the fault is with the Republican Congress. Whether this is Clinton's fault or not....I do not think that was proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

There are many of us that support neither candidate and many of us leaning more toward the Democratic party that despise Ms. Conton. My candidate of choice is a Democrat however when I see someone like Clinton on the ballot I just cannot vote for her. I do not think she represents the lower and middle class. I do not agree with all of Jill Stein's policies but I admire her candor and also I respect she is not hypocritical and seems to maintain consistent positions.

In the end I believe she will win the election and we will get to see what she really does once election.

Is their bias favoring her in the media - absolutely - I think it is undeniable. Will ballots be rigged? Who knows?? These types of allegations were floating around since Kennedy defeated Nixon in 1960.

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Trump the Traitor now calling American democracy flawed with rigged elections and requesting voter intimidation? How is Trump even still alive..?

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George Soros in the woodwork!

https://www.google.com/#q=hillary+unaccountable+voting+machines

http://www.subjectpolitics.com/voting-machines-rigged-16-states-hillary-mega-donor-just-hijacked-election/

VOTING MACHINES RIGGED IN 16 STATES! Hillary Mega-Donor Just Hijacked The Election

We’ve just learned that Hillary is tied to the one company that has the power to sway this entire election – Smartmatic. ... Smartmatic manufactures the voting machines that will be used this November. ... The Chairman of Smartmatic, Mark Malloch-Brown, is on the board of George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. ...

SMARTMATIC’S VOTING MACHINES WILL BE USED IN THESE 16 CRUCIAL STATES: AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, IL, LA, MI, MO, NJ, NV, OR, PA, VA, WA, WI ...

Just take a look at this chart detailing some of the primary results between Hillary and Bernie. Look how much better Hillary did in states that used HER voting machines: ...

Clinton beat expectations ONLY in states that use her unaccountable electronic voting machines!

States with paper trails to placed votes: Clinton polled 48% pre-election, ... (received) 49% in official results on primary night

States with unaccountable voting machines: Clinton polled 58% pre-election, ... (received) 65% in official results on primary night

As you can see, in the states that used these voting machines, Hillary improved BY A WHOPPING 9 PERCENT. Conversely, in states that didn’t use these machines she only won by 1 percent. ... These machines are just like any other machine; they’ll do whatever they are programmed to do; this gives the manufacturers some AWESOME power. These machines can be programmed to cast your vote for Hillary, regardless of which candidate you actually select. ...

And haha, "31, out of 1 billion votes cast":

theeastisred: We know exactly how many cases of voting fraud have taken place in recent years: 31, out of 1 billion votes cast.

And no link? So you pulled that number from where?

The Heritage foundation PDF list has many more than that and they appear to be including only convictions. So cases with no conviction and any incidents in places where the authorities are loathe to investigate are not in their list (and if you think there are none of this last kind, just google 'fbi agents angry at comey' for a similar category).

rainydayOct. 17, 2016 - 11:42AM JST

Interestingly, not one article about Clinton and wikileaks on JT. Disgusting double standards.

Except for uh...this one here. And the dozen or other articles a 2 minute scroll through the archives turned up covering Clinton`s emails.

"This one here" from October 11th, six days ago?

How about right now, this minute?: Nothing on front page, nothing on World page.

Archives available where?

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I think Trump is filthy, and disappointed with himself, that he has lost the corporate media battle. Even Rupert Murdoch distanced himself from DT. Never a good sign before an election (UK and Oz know that).

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Tomorrow I fully expect Trump to tell us he is the reincarnation Napoleon or Ghandi.

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Trump is basically saying: "You see, the problem is with 'those' people. You know who I'm talking about; they live in 'certain' areas. 'They' are the ones who will vote multiple times, risking felony convictions for a minuscule effect on election results. 'Our' people, who live 'here', would never commit voter fraud. So show up packing at polling stations to ensure that 'we' are allowed in smoothly but 'they' are challenged."

It would be interesting to see how Trump would react if, say, the Black Lives Matter or La Raza groups took up the same theme. After all, it's vote integrity, isn't it? I'm sure white voters would not mind entering a precinct lined with gun-toting minorities demanding to see their proof of citizenship.

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bass4funk: "He's right. California is already doing it. Good lord, No one is surprise. Just another day in the world of liberals lies and cover ups. Smh."

Wow, bass... we all know you are the biggest partisan on here, but now you're buying into the loony theories out of desperation as well? Even Pence has said there is nothing of the sort going on and they will respect the results. You going to string him up and take out the pitchforks and torches, too?

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theeastisred: turbot: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/03/heres-how-rare-in-person-voter-fraud-is/ - well, you asked

That article is counting 31 incidents of in-person voting with a total of 241 votes, counted in a 2014 study by law professor Justin Levitt, head of the DOJ's voting fraud unit as of 2015. But he's not counting voter fraud cases as a whole, only in-person fraudulent votes. That number's not even close to the total. And he's only including cases he found.

How does he explain the hundreds of dead voters voting year after year just in Southern California, as exposed by a local CBS unit this year? (http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/05/25/report-dead-voters-found-voting-california/)

How does he explain the 100K fraudulent votes cast in just one election in 1982 in Chicago, an estimate provided by the DOJ? With 63 convictions? Do you really think the number of fraudulent votes for the entire nation could drop to whatever multiple of 100K it was in 1982 to 241 across a 14 year period, 10 years later? Remember that six of the years in Levitt's study, 2008-2014, were under the Obama administration. (Re Chicago: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/04/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-in-chicago)

What's his number for total fraudulent votes for the time period of his study, not just impersonation fraud? What does Levitt think about the possibility of voting machines illegally switching millions of votes?

Even WaPo touts a study that estimates "that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010" based on a small study. If those percentages held for the population at large, they'd result in millions of illegal votes. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/)

Here's the link you provided. 241 is NOT the number of total fraudulent votes over 14 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/03/heres-how-rare-in-person-voter-fraud-is/

For that, we turn to the much-cited 2014 analysis of voter fraud reported by The Post (ts: link appearing here is next link below). Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt looked at 14 years of voting and found 31 possible incidents of in-person voter fraud, comprised of approximately 241 fraudulent ballots. ... The most significant chunk of those 241 are from 145 ballots that were cast between 2008 and 2011 in Michigan, where names, dates of birth and addresses of people who cast ballots matched those of people who'd died. ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?tid=a_inl

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One word: evidence ?

Answer came there "none".

Trump has finally lost it completely, mentally speaking. Meltdown. This is what happens when you confront a fragile, narcissistic ego with the prospect of world headlines reading "TRUMP: LOSER".

I am genuinely worried that the only thing left is for him is to try and wring Hillary's neck on live TV on Wednesday.

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Herbert:

The voter ID campaign is supposedly aimed at countering in-person voting fraud, which as we now know does not exist in any meaningful way. The real reason for trying to tighten up the rules is of course to exclude legitimate voters who may struggle to meet the requirements for various reasons, and thereby to skew the election voting in a certain way. In other words, it is invoking a fear of non-existent fraud IN ORDER TO COMMIT voter fraud itself.

Trump is clutching at straws. Nobody is taken in by this foolishness, except perhaps a few people brave enough to admit their gullibility on sites such as this. Can you think of anyone like that?

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facts and reason have nothing to do with Trump or his voters. The Idiocracy has arrived

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but also at many polling places - SAD

This is not going to end well for Republicans.

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Trump should be ashamed of himself.

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If Trump somehow does win then that would show the election really is rigged!!!

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The same person who questioned the legitimacy of President Obama's citizenship for more than 6 years, even with evidence, now wants to question the legitimacy of U.S. elections. What a whiny sore loser!

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I suppose Trump thinks the media is also "rigged" when it's calmly pointed out that he did in fact say, on TV, something that he subsequently completely denies having said ? This has happened so many times (and even Pence has had to lie in support of Trump on this) that the fact checkers are losing count. Whatever you think about Hillary she simply hasn't done that. It's hypocrisy of the most transparent sort for Trump supporters to call Hillary a liar, and the GOP should be ashamed of itself.

Trump has proven himself to be a man whose concept of objective truth is completely misaligned with reality - how could someone like that ever be President, seriously? He shouldn't even be allowed to employ people in his business, he should be in a straightjacket in a secure facility until he is deemed safe for release.

I don't even like or support Hillary - if I was voting I would be very upset at being presented with only one choice of a candidate who could reasonably be considered as fit for office. This is way beyond politics now. It's about public safety.

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Tokyo-Engr: and many of us leaning more toward the Democratic party

You quote Breitbart. You just railed on mythical conservative censorship. You promoted the myth of motor fraud. And added a dig about universities.

So what is it that attracts you to us Democrats?

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"I am genuinely worried that the only thing left is for him is to try and wring Hillary's neck on live TV on Wednesday."

If he did this on live TV, half of the posters here would claim it was the liberal MSM showing him in a bad light.

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Now which one of you domestic terrorist Hillary people fire bombed the GOP headquarters in S.C.?

I just want to hear one of you Hillary people say it once;

A NO FLY ZONE IN SYRIA IS A GOOD IDEA!

Common! Hillary is your (wo)man! You love this idea or what?

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Not sure if the election itself is rigged, but the media certainly is. What happened to the press holding both sides accountable? There is no balance whatsoever in the coverage of the candidates. I defy you to find a story about Clinton's corruption and collusion, anywhere near the size of Trump's scandals. Generally, Trump gets the first 20 minutes of the newscast, Hillary (if we are lucky), a brief mention at the end.

It's a gross abdication of their responsibilities.

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In 2012 a San Francisco consumer advocate sued Nike for it's use of lies in it's advertising. Nike fought back by identifying itself with individuals and their rights to say whatever they please. Look up Marc Kaska for more details. I see direct parallels in this line of thinking with Trump's utterances. I alo believe that Pence is very familiar with this line of corporate thinking. Very familiar. Bill Buckley had a smart retort."I wouldn't build a cathedral around that statement."

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"It's a gross abdication of their responsibilities."

I think it's more to do with the fact that stupid s###, inflammatory comments, conspiracy theories and general inanity is far more entertaining and attracts more attention than anything to do with Clinton.

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The media only seems biased because Trump gives them so much to work with!!

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@SuperLib - I have also quoted The Nation. I try to see all perspectives and I want to get as much information from both sides as possible. My candidate of choice is

What attracts me to Dems? Well my candidate of choice (Webb who is not on the ballot) seems socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I am pro gay marriage and pro choice and also I support fair wages, national health care (not what Obamacare is or has become) and I where necessary I am pro union (especially in the private sector) in spite of the fact the union has become corrupt. It seems to be the only chance the working person has against the political machine.

As for the "dig" about re-segregation in universities....I do not see it as a "dig". I think re-segregating is not the answer to issues. This seems to be a huge step backwards. There are also cases of controversial views being squelched in universities. I also believe Clinton sent an e-mail out indicating Breitbart does not have a right to exist. I think all points of view should be heard. Regarding voter ID - cases of fraud do exist (not in extreme high numbers) however I think it is common sense to require an ID to vote.

Yeah so some issues I likely am in synch with the Democratic party and in others I diverge. I do not think it needs to be an "all in" or nothing deal

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I defy you to find a story about Clinton's corruption and collusion, anywhere near the size of Trump's scandals.

I totally agree - because there are no Clinton scandal stories anywhere near the size of Trump's.

Listen, this is the big leagues. Clinton's already been investigated, exhaustively and continuously, for almost three decades. Trump is a playboy TV host and one-time property developer; that the GOP didn't bring out the skeletons that were obviously in his closet during the primaries is the result of their own incompetence, not the media. Further, Trump's continual inability to resist obvious bait dangled from the Clinton campaign is his own fault. The GOP screwed up royally, Trump continues to do so, and the media is simply reporting on this.

If you're unhappy about this, I'd suggest switching to one of the several Russian news outlets available in English. Their coverage is quite more sympathetic, and Trump apparently relies on them for much of his news. http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-appears-to-have-read-an-email-doctored-by-russian-media-2016-10

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I wonder if the Trumpster would like some cheese with his whine ? Wah, wah, wah ! Remember guys, Hillary for America ! "Madame President" ! - 1/20/17

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hahaha, being neither a Democrat nor a Republican , a Clinton fan nor a Trump fan I am amazed at some of these comments, You only need to look at Trump on TV , listen to both him and Pence lie about his statements to know that he has a huge Ego and wants to be President more for himself than the people of America, Saying that however , how some can watch the same news and think that Hilary is less of a liar then Trump amazes me completely and she definitely wants to be President for herself and no-one else. I now look forward to the big thumbs down from everyone, its just a shame that out of the population of America your Republican and Democratic parties could not find a decent candidate to put up between them. Your allies are terrified and your enemies are laughing.

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he is really losing the plot these days,just hope he will spontaneously combust soon

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"He's right. California is already doing it. Good lord, No one is surprise. Just another day in the world of liberals lies and cover ups. Smh."

we all know you are the biggest partisan on here,

I'm not, there's just more liberal hypocrisy coming out of the liberal camp, but please continue...

but now you're buying into the loony theories out of desperation as well?

For example?

You going to string him up and take out the pitchforks and torches, too?

I refuse to lower myself to liberal dirty tactics.

This is not going to end well for Republicans.

Actually, I think quite the opposite will if she does become president, she wants to carry on the same policies that have wrecked and destroyed the country,. If it does happen, it should be fun to watch the train wreck. All in due time.

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"If she becomes president . . ." ? Do you really, truly think that is not going to happen ? Three more weeks, guys. History will be made. Our first female POTUS. GO HILLARY ! ! ! GOTV (Get out to vote!)

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27 more days, exactly, if she becomes president, I've seen it all and a lot can happen. So I sat, Go Trump! It's never too late. Kudos!

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"Our first female POTUS"

Heck, I'm with her, I don't care how corrupt she is,or how many lies she's told, I'm with her!

And, oh my...

"NEW WIKILEAKS EMAILS: CNN Claims It's Illegal To Read WikiLeaks. Viewers Should Only Trust Media" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjKaJIP9Ec

"CNN Tries to Scare Its Viewers into Not Reading Wikileaks Material" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha02WqQAMM8

"Clinton Suggests Possibility of claiming Entire Pacific Ocean" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5NPfYwgJI

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For all you "MSM" bashers, here's a closer look at how an email hacked by Russia was misunderstood by a Russian government-owned news agency, with the misunderstanding promptly parroted by Trump. At least, unlike Sarah Palin, he'd be able to answer the question re: from which sources he gets his news ("All of them! RT, Sputnik....")

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

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Trump and Clint are actually very similar.

Neither can see that what they did was in any way wrong.

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@BertieWooster For the first time I'd have to agree with you.

To be honest, I can't believe anyone when it comes to this election. I also know all parties including media lie to a degree. What I'm sure is neither Clinton nor Trump are 100% truthful. and I know, from CNN to Fox, NY Times to NY Post, all media are somehow biased. This is an election where clear and overall true information have not been provided. We can't tell who lies. I guess everyone lies.

I'd vote for Clinton if I were an American. But that doesn't mean I believe she is an honest person. Maybe Clinton is a more skillful liar than Trump. It's only that realistically Clinton would run the nation better than Trump.

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Vote rigging would not surprise me. They said it could not happen in the UK but we all suspected it was happening in certain religious minority areas. Then came the proof that got the former Mayor of Tower Hamlets removed from office for exactly that.

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Media rigged in favor of Hillary and voter registration rigged for Trump so let's call it even.

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The issue is still "whether this particular election is rigged or not" as Trump accuses.

There is only one other issue attached to this. That is... "who" is "allowed" to vote in each precinct, and state.

Voting is still by the numbers. So therefore, the key is in the people who are allowed to vote.

The "rigged" or the "rigging" can be by many. many methods where the numbers are "controlled" or " miscalculated" or even allowed to be controlled and miscalculated by including those who can vote or not allowing those who can vote.

If the USA is to have a "valid" vote, then it must follow the simple rule that "citizens" who are properly "registered" and "qualified" to do so based upon the rules and laws that determine such "validity". When those "requirement for "validity" is altered and changed to "favor" any one party or candidate... then it is logically rationally speaking "rigged".

If Trump is saying that... then there are facts and evidences pointing to that.

When foreigners that are illegal immigrants are allowed to vote only because they happened to be "present" (even then illegally" within the USA)... I question the voting process and since it happens to favor only Clinton and the Democratic party... only because they made the changes... it can be called "rigged".

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Clinton would run the nation better than Trump.

She would run the nation to wars better than Trump.

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Not really related to the election, but:

There should be severe consequences to Russia or any sovereign nation that is compromising the privacy or the security of the United States of America.

...is such an incredibly ironic/profound thing to say, given what America has been caught doing to allies in recent years.

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tinawatanabe: "She would run the nation to wars better than Trump."

How so? Remember, Trump wants to cast out all Muslims. Trump wants to build a wall and cast out all illegals, if not all immigrants. Trump wants to leave Japan and other nations that are pivotal geographic locations in preventing China's spread unless those countries pay 100% of the cost of housing US military forces (don't forget that while you mock Clinton). Trump says he would bomb everyone. Trump cannot even take the criticism of a comedy program (SNL), but claims he would be presidential material in dealing with other nations.

No, tina, Trump would be the end of the US, and likely the world.

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On the issue at hand... the election process itself has been rigged from the very beginning.

The very fact that we have the Electoral college and have them vote already says that our votes do not really count. (Which when the country began assumed that the general public did not understand nor have the knowledge and educational level to be able to give a qualified and meaningful opinion and vote.)

Then the government has the ability to overturn the election by basically claiming that the entire election was "rigged" and there is a need for a new election. (A kind of mistrial in the courts.)

Or if in case of a War, which means Martial Law.

We live in a dangerous world...

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

I guess Clinton is better administrator. Guess what happens if Trump meets Merkel or Theresa May or even Mrs.Ave and do this and that? Unimaginable....

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smith, Remember Clinton represents the interest of 1% but Trump represent that of 99%. Give him a chance. I think Trump would be the best thing US has had since Lincoln.

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@tinawatanabe

do you really believe Trump represents 99% knowing how he treats his employees? I think he is 1% who enjoys being the 1%.

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The other issue is with each political party where their own candidate selection process is "rigged".

No need to add to that... we all saw that... Those with political power and special interest within the party are able to change the "rules" for the nomination process and even the votes cast actual voting public by having the "delegate" and "super delegate" process.

The very fact that "money" flows to help certain candidates from the political parties indicates a level of "rigging".

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Back in early 1960s, Richard Nixon did not believe John F Kennedy really won the election. However he said he did not want to be seen as sore loser and moved on until next election. He may be kicked out because of watergate affair. He was someone matured and reasonable.

Al Gore won more popular or primary votes. He still lost the election.He accepted high court judges decision as Georege Bush Jnr as winner. Bush Jnr did not like recounting votes because he was determined to win even he lost. Trump may want to become another Geore Bush Jnr.

Trump has already made it clear that he will not become like them. He is urging his supporters for not accepting the outcome of election if he lose.

If Hilary has won, Trump supporters may wave the conferderate flags with Arms. They have strong hatered over Hilary more than anything else. She does not deserve for that.

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The crooked billionaire represents the 99% because he said so between Hillary insults.

Seems legit to me.

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It is undeniable that there has been no perfection in any political or legal systems. Abuses of power, and/or corruption, etc have been the questions of degree. But the denouncing that the 2016 presidential election "is rigged" has been Trump's vicious abuse of the US election law itself [freedom of speech, etc.]. Shame on Trump and his cronies, who have passionately promised about Trump's mission for change. The only change that Trump and his cronies could bring about will be the destruction of the GOP Trump's chance to win the election has reached the negative percentage. If Trump and his cronies wanted to know about the truly rigged elections, they should have read the history of Russia, China, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, etc.. In short, Trump's candidacy is over. Security should be tightened at the final debate, because the unchained Trump has become dangerous.

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7 out of 10 Americans think ( know ) the U.S. is headed in the wrong direction.

Choice A: Hillary Clinton, corrupt, establishment / basically no change / more Obama with more lies and less style

Choice B: Donald Trump, a damn bulldozer plowing through all the corruption, tax cuts to get the economy moving, border security

You can also look at it this way:

Vote for Captain Quint, salty, politically incorrect, will save you and your famiiy from the shark

Vote for the shark

This is interesting: "NEW CLINTON EMAIL SCANDAL: State Dept Bribed FBI To Protect Hillary From Espionage Act Indictment" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAM48bmtMDc

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For all you "MSM" bashers, here's a closer look at how an email hacked by Russia was misunderstood by a Russian government-owned news agency, with the misunderstanding promptly parroted by Trump

I haven't slept in 20 hours but if Wiki released the emails, why would Russia need to hack it. I also noticed they didn't link the Sputnik article. Kind of important to prove their point. This article reminds me of the Michigan Militia propaganda my brother used to try to give me. I didn't see any hard facts backed up with references here, so yeah, the MSM is corrupt and can not be trusted.

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Can Jerry Springer host the Las Vegas debate?

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Give him a chance. I think Trump would be the best thing US has had since Lincoln.

Trump isn't even in the same political universe as Abraham Lincoln.

Trump would be the best thing for alt-right, white supremacists since presidential candidates Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, or David Duke. It took the election of a black man with an African-sounding name to bring the loonies out of the woodwork.

But Lincoln? --- What a laugh. The GOP started to divorce itself from Honest Abe's principles as soon as they ended Reconstruction.

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The answer: paper ballots. Voting machines are easily rigged.

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At least Trump didn't try to use Lincoln to try to explain Hillary's public policy positions and her private policy positions.

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The GOP started to divorce itself from Honest Abe's principles as soon as they ended Reconstruction

.That's why he was assassinated? At least he tried to make the country independent from the establishment.

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2 ( +2 / -0 )

"At least Trump didn't try to use Lincoln to try to explain Hillary's public policy positions and her private policy positions."

I must admit, Clinton's reference to Lincoln in the debate was fingernails down the blackboard. On the other hand, Trump using white supremacist tweets multiple times to get his point across should have alarm bells ringing in everyone's head.

If you don't have those bells, take a long look in the mirror and ask the deplorable question.

This is the beauty/tragedy of Trump. No matter what seedy, dishonest and ugly material you can dig up on Clinton, Trump can completely overshadow it with insanity, stupid s###, pure WTF and genuinely disturbing trash.

Utterly incompetent as well as pure trash. An average candidate could have destroyed Clinton.

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so yeah, the MSM is corrupt and can not be trusted

Are you gonna accept the results of the election as reported by the media?

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I love how SNL is now part of the "rigged election"! hahaha. Trump honestly sounds almost as senile and stupid as Giuliani. No wonder the latter supports the former and vice versa.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

I must admit, Clinton's reference to Lincoln in the debate was fingernails down the blackboard.

Oh, please. Apples and howitzers.

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The crooked billionaire represents the 99% because he said so

Trump has done absolutely nothing, ever, to show that he supports or represents the 99%. Sure he says he does, but he has done absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever, that would support his words.

The biggest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the people he didn't exist.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Trump and his supporters didn't seem to mind him dominating the election coverage during the primaries. I believe they even credited him with being brilliant for all the free airtime.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

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Forgive me for repeating myself, but it's time to scrap both the liar Clinton and the loudmouthed buffoon Trump and START AGAIN.

NEITHER of these people are qualified to lead one of the planet's major powers.

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Forgive me for repeating myself, but it's time to scrap both

I hope I won't have to repeat myself, Bertie, but perhaps it's time for you to come to America and start your crusade. See how many people you can get behind you before election day -- and who don't start to view you the way you view both.

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Bertie: Forgive me for repeating myself, but it's time to scrap both the liar Clinton and the loudmouthed buffoon Trump and START AGAIN. NEITHER of these people are qualified to lead one of the planet's major powers.

Noted. See you in 2020.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Trump was a SNL host just last Fall during the Republican presidential primaries.

So it's all good when he's winning the primaries, but when he's losing the election, it's all bad. That's like bipolar.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Trump has done absolutely nothing, ever, to show that he supports or represents the 99%

He hasn't had the chance. But what he is saying is consistent. He said about jobs, immigration, FRB, America first, fight against the establishment, and many many more that indicate the 99%.

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He hasn't had the chance.

He's had 40+ years of chances.

He said about jobs, immigration, FRB, America first, fight against the establishment, and many many more that indicate the 99%.

He has also said he'd pay people X amount of money to do work for them, then after they did it, he told them he would only give them 10% of that, and if they don't like it they can take him to court.

He says one thing, then does another when the person cannot do anything about it.

The difference is that once the people elect him, they won't be able to go to court to get him out of the presidency if he doesn't do the things he promised. Which is lucky for him, because some of those things, for example 'the wall' are impossible (notice how he doesn't talk about it anymore?).

Trump has deceived you, just like he is deceiving all the Strumpets.

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I'm aware of my naivety, that's why I have the name Bertie Wooster, but I wonder why, when I suggest that both the Clint and the Trump are not fit to serve I get so many "bad" clicks.

Are there people who actually support either of these people?

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What a choice to have to make , based purely on the fact that you hate one of the candidates more than the other.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Are there people who actually support either of these people?

I support Hillary. She most definitely doesn't move me like Obama did, and she has her faults. But I think that for one, she's been smeared relentlessly which overtime has given people the feeling that she is much, much worse than she actually is, and that she embodies a lot of the qualities that will make for a strong president, even if she's not the most personable candidate ever.

But her single best quality, more than anything, is that she's not Trump.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

This is interesting:

"WIKILEAKS 10 EMAILS: NBC News Meet The Press Chuck Todd Hosted Dinner Party For Clinton Campaign" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od7JWKFI_f4

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This is interesting:

Heh, I notice you're actually posting URLs now.

I bet you don't realize that the only people who are going to follow them are those who want their bias confirmed though.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

and the ones who don't watch are keeping there biased in tact.

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