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plasticmonkey
bass4funk on September 21, 2015:
bass today:
Never thought I'd see the day when bass endorses a 'liberal' for president. Strange days indeed.
ClippetyClop
Trump is so completely pro-establishment that voting for him is essentially just cutting out the middle man in your political system and admitting that you are all happy to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
goldorak
Have to say it seems us politics have reached a new low with the latest trump vs rubio feud. What kind of politician accuses another of 'sweating too much' or 'having small hands'?!
This would be hilarious if they were not fighting for us top job but seriously how can you get that low? Unbelievable. And people kept cheering. Only in the us moment.
kcjapan
"A Trump candidacy is best for America because a Trump candidacy substantially improves the odds of an electoral rout for Democrats -- a landslide for Hillary, retaking the Senate, picking up House seats and governorships." - comments
Trump's candidacy is likely the worst thing for America.
For seven long years rebuilding from the disaster of George W. Bush's forged documents that betrayed CIA agent Valarie Plame and destroyed the middle east, the financial meltdown of corruption that upended the global markets and disgraced the military in Bush's torture camps, Donald J. Trump's campaign is an extension of the crimes of George W. Bush. Prejudice, fear and lies.
This time, Trump has taken the responsibility himself to manufacture the falsehood, prejudice, lies and torture plans only a Dick Cheney could love.
A Trump candidacy is best for America? Not in any conceivable way. A disgrace to the military he ran from and a disgrace to those who suffered torture at the hands of American soldiers.
Laguna
Understand the sentiment, disagree with the conclusion. Scratch a millimeter beneath Trump and you'll find establishment-linked veins running through his very existence. The only question is which "establishment." Don't be fooled.
nath
Logic failure. Hating Trump doesn't equate to not having faith in one's own party's candidates.
TorafusuTorasan
Ah, I am glad that a few Trump fans are nearby to offer Trumpese translation services. When he shouts 'Are you from Mexico?'--at an Asian audience member--and then blubbers about someone ruining his punchline, what is that all about? I will take a pithy answer from WC or, shudder, a long winded screed from Bass.
LFRAgain
Everything you ever needed to know about Donald Trump and his qualifications as the potential president of the United States:
Link: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Donald Trump (HBO)
https://youtu.be/DnpO_RTSNmQ
The demoralizing part? I honestly believe most supporters of Trump realize perfectly well what a consummate asshat he is, and they're perfectly okay with it.
Hate, anger, uncompromising selfishness, bigotry, racism both casual and overt, an overwhelming malaise of simple mean-spiritedness and painfully willful ignorance -- these have all become the foundation of Republican doctrine and subsequent support over the past three decades.
The Republican Party is effectively dead with a Trump victory on Super Tuesday. And good riddance. Anything this toxic and counter-productive deserves to die on the vine.
Laguna
As the LA Times points out here, many Trump supporters are not anti-government; they simply wish that government support would come to them (middle-class, white working Americans) instead of the undeserving (not the above). That they put their hopes in the Donald "You're fired, loser!" basket is as misguided as it is pathetic. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-trump-big-government-20160301-story.html
kcjapan
"In astonishing remarks this week (Nov 21, 2015) that would have condemned a politician in any other democracy, Republican frontrunner Donald Trump invoked the idea of special IDs for Muslims and shutting down troublesome mosques in steps redolent of the American treatment of Japanese during World War II."
source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Trump-leads-Islamophobia-in-US/articleshow/49865418.cms
The Trump fans have another problem. Back in the Vietnam era they used to chant, "The whole world is watching".
It is sad that not only are Trump's idiotic pronouncements carried around the world, Trump goes as far as to demand Muslims should be forced to have identity cards and present them on demand.
It would be helpful if our brothers in Judaism would mention the following in their Synagogues.
Trump stated: ""We're going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We're going to have to look at the mosques,". He later expanded his remarks at other events and interviews, saying, the United States will have "absolutely no choice" but to close down some mosques where "some bad things are happening." Among other things, he wanted a database to track every Muslim in America he would make it mandatory for followers of the religion to register." (citation above)
Some may well remember the Star of David affixed to the clothing of German Jews. Trump is not only unoriginal in his thinking, (claiming Reagan's 'make America great again' as his own), he is completely unaware of the implication of his programs of torture, forcible expulsion of eleven million Mexicans and branding Muslims in Trump's database of religious affiliation.
This is the Republican solution to make America great again?
Or just the racist savages clinging to the lies and distortions of Donald J. Trump, (suit salesman until Macy's dropped him for racism.)
nath
Because he hasn't stopped being any of the things that people are saying he is. And with the notoriously short attention span of the American voters, these things need to be kept at the forefront, lest the people forget before election time.
Jimizo
@Bass
You are best placed to argue here. You went for a very long time telling us Trump's supporters were lunatics and then had a very dramatic change of mind.
What exactly was Trump saying or doing which led you to the conclusion that his followers were lunatics and what did he say or do to change your mind?
You haven't made this clear and making this clear would be very illuminating in this very febrile discussion of Trump. A non-partisan journalist's account of this transformation of thought would be fascinating.
SuperLib
Does the GOP have any moderates left?
plasticmonkey
Oh, the outrage! Whatever happened to sensible dialogue with the KKK? Poor things. Have to wear their hoods and all to hide their antiestablishment faces.
Madverts
Especially if the NYT off the record business has any truth to it.
It makes sense. Trump is just pushing the buttons of idiots to get elected. He's a demagogue.
Kurobune
Uh-oh. They've run out of e-mails to release just before every primary or caucus ! What're they going to do now ? Oh, yeah, pick on her staff ! Go HRC !
CrazyJoe
Republicans can sprint all they want and run through the night, but all roads for them lead straight to Hell. The demon child they created is upon them and they can no longer stop it. The only way out for the Republicans is to start backing the Democrats! How far they have fallen... May they hit the bottom at full speed!
kcjapan
"The party’s flagbearer in 2012, Mitt Romney, joined the chorus of outrage, tweeting: “A disqualifying & disgusting response by @realDonaldTrump to the KKK. His coddling of repugnant bigotry is not in the character of America.” - article
Mitt at leaste has the sense to condemn the KKK. While a terrible politician, Romney, to his credit isn't asking voters to endorse the torture policies and racism of Donald Trump.
"In the latest controversy, Trump came under withering criticism from Republican and Democratic candidates alike for not immediately disavowing the support of David Duke, a white supremacist who once led the Ku Klux Klan." - article
That's right. Trump wanted a chance to think if the racial terrorism of the Klan was all just a big misunderstanding. Very Presidential. Trump the fraud.
kcjapan
A victory for Trump is a victory for the Klan.
PTownsend
It's the 'fiercely angry electorate', one that includes groups like the KKK, plus extremists in the gunhugging and other angry WASP communities (quote the Don: 'I love the undereducated'), groups that seem to be willing to be led by a belligerent like Trump that should scare the entire world. He's spouting vapid and empty phrases like 'I'll build a wall' and 'Make America great again' (which of course he can't describe) to appeal to a portion of the disenfranchised while intentionally ramping up their fears and whipping up collective anger. Among my many worries of his candidacy is what will happen if he loses? Will he (and maybe more importantly his angry assault weapon carrying sheeple) concede with grace and dignity, qualities he's never in his life shown? WASP bigots see him as their great white hope, and what will happen if he loses?
My biggest worry, though, is his winning and John Adam's 'tyranny of the majority' being unleashed full force on the US citizenry - and the world.
One thing I'll never understand is how a spoiled rich oligarch like him, a member of the US ruling class establishment, can be seen by people he's never dealt with in his life, and if he has dealt with them has looked down on them, as their champion. Why do people think a man who throughout his life has proclaimed that his greed is good, who has done whatever possible to increase his personal fortune, including buying politicians, is going to go to Washington and look out for them? He's a leopard. Do people think he will actually stop trying to accumulate wealth? Are so many US Americans really that gullible and desperate?
kcjapan
"Raucous Trump rallies are nothing like Nuremberg. But the underlying tactics and rhetoric used at Trump forums eerily align with the messages of yesteryear:"
"They play to deep economic anxieties, scapegoating and making wild promises of future prosperity and glory to draw people in. And like past figures, Trump shamelessly promotes himself as a magical strongman who can succeed where all others have failed." - William F. B. O'Reilly, Republican consultant.
Trump's tactic is a simple one. Repetition, outrage and simpleton solutions. The damage to America and Americans is inexcusable and irresponsible. Trump repeats the canned complaint, spices it with racism and religious prejudice and his fans eagerly wait their chance to beat up blacks, the great future Trump has promised them.
Republican consultant O'Reilly pulls the curtain back on the stage craft of Trump's television spectacle revealing the cheap tricks and xenophobia that are the GOP ShiaTea.
The racist has his President in Trump.
kcjapan
The facts show Trump refused multiple times to denounce David Duke and the Klan . . . it is a mater of record.
It is possible Trump's fans don't know that millions watched CNN as Trump refused vehemently to condemn the Klan? Not only possible, it is in fact another illustration of the prejudice flowing in the veins of Trump's bigots.
Dan Lewis
Is it just me, is it just this election, or does election year become more and more disappointing and bleak with each cycle?
Madverts
The Republicans have been getting insaner each cycle...
It's rubber room and titanium straight jacket time in 2016.
Madverts
Refusing to disown the Klu Klux Klan should be all they need.
I hear the MSM mind beams may be increased it being Super Tuesday and all. It's probably wise to increase the microns in the aluminium thickness.
Jimizo
This could be the day when Republicans tell the world they believe Donald Trump is the right man to lead the most powerful country in the world.
A day that could live in infamy. At least the party over at the KKK should be a blast. They'll probably have their party bed sheets on.
nath
Well, the guy is quite smart. He knows how to speak to the disenfranchised in such a way that they hear what he is saying, and in doing so forget what he is. He brings up issues that are obviously important to a large portion of the population, but what they don't realize is that while he may be bringing up important issues, that does not mean he is the correct person to address those issues. They are blinded by anger, and it's blocking their logic.
CrazyJoe
The Republican party has become a cabal of increasingly desperate plutocrats with no concern for the democratic process, and few scruples about the lengths they will go to subvert it.
If you needed any further proof of this, Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn's categorical declaration to refuse to perform their Constitutional duty to meet with and review the qualifications of the president's nominee to fill the vacancy on the Supreme Court, should have put that to rest.
A Trump candidacy is best for America because a Trump candidacy substantially improves the odds of an electoral rout for Democrats -- a landslide for Hillary, retaking the Senate, picking up House seats and governorships.
Madverts
While Trump battles to Deny his difficulty in disowning the Klan, Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse says he will not back the démagogue with the bad wig, the first prominent Republican to do so. Even the Asylum is about to turn on its' monster, the thick black troll milk that nurtured the beast to be withdrawn.
Lemming Day - the Final Chapter will soon be upon us.
Behold it. A thing of the ugliest beauty....
toshiko
****@WC Not Trump He has business on Vegas Strip that he knows difference.
Simon Foston
BNlightenedMAR. 01, 2016 - 11:28AM JST
What, you do? You've looked into Trump's debts, failed business enterprises, lawsuit threats he never followed through on, lawsuits he had to settle, outright contradictions and barefaced lies? You know everything about him and you're 100% sure he's the guy for you?
wanderlust
Despite the rhetoric, the actual choice is the responsibility of the electoral college. On four occasions, most recently in 2000, the Electoral College system has resulted in the election of a candidate who did not receive the most popular votes in the election.
Electors are apportioned to each of the 50 states as well as to the District of Columbia (also known as Washington, D.C.). The number of electors in each state is equal to the number of members of Congress to which the state is entitled, while the Twenty-third Amendment grants the District of Columbia the same number of electors as the least populous state, currently three. Therefore, in total, there are currently 538 electors, corresponding to the 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 senators, plus the three additional electors from the District of Columbia.
Laguna
Davnetcat, most of us anti-Trump types are enjoying the hell out of this. It's not often that our ideological foes provide such entertainment on their own dime. Heck, they're paying basically a movie-ticket worth a day for each and every one of us to sit back and marvel at this! The best thing is that the show will last for MONTHS, and while the result is pretty clear to anyone paying attention, how we get there will be fascinating to observe. Kinda like an Indiana Jones movie.
Kurobune
"Madame President" is sounding better and better ! Go HRC !
ThePBot
If America has some sense and decency, Bernie Sanders will become POTUS.
nath
Could be. And if it is, someday we'll look back on today as the day the Republican party jumped the shark.
GalapagosnoGairaishu
Thanks for the civics lesson@wanderlust, but I don't see your point. Basically if Trump accumulates enough districts in enough states, he'll be the next president. That's the way the system was intended to work. Electors can resign if they don't want to cast their ballot for a winner they don't like, but I hope you're not implying they could overturn the election.
toshiko
Both Trump and Hillary now attacking each other. Maybe they don'f think Cruz and Rubia will be anyone pretty soon? Also Sanders is ignored.
Alphaape
It seems all else has failed by the media to discredit Trump, so they try to pull out the "trump card" of racism to slow him down. He disavowed him, and that's not enough. What they expected was for him to keep talking about it, letting the media set the narrative, but he isn't falling for that. He is still doing his thing, and people are starting to see that. They (GOP) tried it somewhat back in 2008 with Obama when groups like the Black Panthers and his pastor from his church were seen as too radical. Funny, how Rev. Wright openly discussed the ills of America and if Trump were to sit in a similar church for 20 years where the pastor made such comments about Blacks and how America is going to hell because of minorities, he would not have made it this far.
If you study American politics, you will see that there is money in the opposition. If Trump does make it big through Super Tuesday, and on to the nomination and the White House, then with this little flap it will start setting the tone for how the opposition will come at him. It will view those who vote for him as closet racists. Even though, Blacks (just looking at them since it was this group that the KKK was first formed to rage terror on) only make up 13% of the US population. In 2008 Obama won 43% of the white vote, Kerry in 2004 won 41% of the white vote. True Obama won 95% of the Black vote in 2008, had the racial composition of the electorate stayed the same in 2008 as it was in 2004, and had whites remained as supportive of Republicans as they were in 2004, Obama would still have won the popular vote, albeit by a much smaller margin.
But the media will try to "guilt" those who are thinking that they might vote for Trump into believing that a vote cast for him would put them with a racist, but as we have seen this is not really working. People are stating to get fed up with the way politics are run these days.
Trump is setting the narrative, and the establishment doesn't like it.
ghoneim mohamed
MarkG
You are right,Trump is not racist,and Hillary is not honest,Sanders is an honorable man.As far as Sanders wont be Democratic nominee-i wish he will be-Trump will be the best one for oval office.
pointofview
Wc626,
There`s no point in battling these left-wingers on here. The hate and scorn they spew is proof that they are the problem and are the grudge holders. Any wonder they want big government socialism.
The CNN Tapper piece is nothing but a hit piece to try and stump Trump for tomorrow. Duke never endorsed. Trump has disavowed multiple times any potential endorsement when asked by the media.
MarkG
Trump is not racist. Hillary is not honest. Sanders is an honerable man. Rubio is acting like a child. Cruz's incidents are questionable. Kasich is an honerable man. Carson is an honerable man.
For those who keep spewing the hate talk about Trump just look into Hillary's association with a certain clansmember. Seeking his endorsement. I can say accurately Trump did not seek duke's endorsement. Hillary and Sanders sought Sharpton's endorsement. He is racist.
Is it okay to be racist black opposed to racist white? It's both the same to me. Racist is racist. The media twists don't decide for me, actions of the person makes my decision.
Wc626
Don't know I missed that. All I know is that America is already great. So Trump comes along and says he wants to make America great again. No big deal. Doesn't mean your an ultra-nationalist racist.
But eventually Trump "disavowed" D. Duke. That's not enough? Expectations too high. No need for long boring speeches and or apologies.
BNlightened
Hey, liberals: you seem to be very well versed in parroting your liberal media source of choice.
Trump didn't disavow David Duke? Really? Then what's this unequivocal Trump response...coming from way back last week on February 26th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yseotd_fxWY
Have you seen this clip and choose to ignore it in your biased analyses? Perhaps you missed it? Certainly you must've! Maybe you don't actually go out and investigate reality for yourselves, but rather like it spoon-fed to you pre-digested by your leftist talking head of choice? I'm going to guess the latter. I've never lost by choosing the latter before! Funny thing is...that's EXACTLY what you liberals always accuse the "low information voters" of the GOP of doing, yet here we are!
Get real, folks. Liberals are practically blowing themselves up before Super Tuesday, because that's ALL they've got left! Bernie is flaming out, though he'll still have enough money and supporters to drag Hillary down all the way until the July convention and beyond, while Trump's going to have this sewn up mighty quick.
The Liberal's response? (Insert 1980s Chomsky quote they memorized from their liberal arts classes at uni.)
Panic away, everyone! ALL the trends are against the Democrats and Hillary ("It's Going To Be Me") Clinton.
Illyas
Trump already disavowed Duke in 2000 (Reform Party), last August, and last Friday. The media just keeps asking the same question until eventually you trip up and they can try to run with something.
Magnet
Between these two, I'd wish Vladimir Putin was also in the race.
Serrano
"The only way out for the Republicans is to start backing the Democrats! How far they have fallen..."
I dunno, in a Hillary vs Trump poll, Hillary leads by only a couple of percentage points, and there's still 8 months to go...
"Trump is so completely pro-establishment"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Wc626
True, but week after week, day after day, article after article . . . The same posts, "he's a bigot, racist savages, beat up blacks, gun nutters etc" From inside the bubble, it really sounds some posters are in a frenzied panic mode.
BNlightened
More bad trends for Hillary and the Democratic Party, yet more good news for Trump.
In Massachusetts (not exactly a state famous for right-wing lunacy, remember, and a long-time pro-Democratic blue state), the Boston Herald is reporting that more than 20,000 voters in the state have stopped being Democrats!
"Secretary of State William Galvin said more than 16,300 Democrats have shed their party affiliation and become independent voters since Jan. 1, while nearly 3,500 more shifted to the MassGOP ahead of tomorrow’s “Super Tuesday” presidential primary.
"The primary reason? Galvin, himself a Democrat, said his “guess” is simple: “The Trump phenomenon,” a reference to GOP frontrunner Donald Trump, who polls show enjoying a massive lead over rivals Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and others among Massachusetts Republican voters.
"Galvin said the state could see as many as 700,000 voting in tomorrow’s Republican primary, a significant number given just 468,000 people are actually registered Republicans. In Massachusetts. unenrolled — otherwise known as independent — voters can cast a ballot in the primary of any party."
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party
Oh-oh! Where's the Mass. Bern? Where's Hillary's "progressive" energy? That's what the Democrats get for running a one-time presidential loser with more corporate sponsorship than a Nascar race driver! Keeping it real, folks!
Davnetcat
Uh-oh the anti-Trumps are in the corner slashing their own wrists over his success. Haa-haa
FizzBit
Trump = anti-establishment. See the puppies attack from all sides. Following the MSM weak attacks like the recent kkk, while Hillary has made multi million dollar deals of weapons and those weapons are turned on innocent Yemenies. Oh the horror. But the establishment will keep harping on the kkk because that's all they've got, for now. Next week it will be something new. Last week it was Trump university, which was a hard sell once the people realized it had a 98% approval rating. So what's it going to be next week? Just wait and see. The council on foreign relations are throwing papers in the air. Goldman Sachs are doubling down. OH this is gonna be great!
Wc626
What? Its the Blacks who are beating up each other. Or the the ones attacking police officers. The other day in California, some Klan members were beat up (deservedly so). But no more & no less.
You see. He "disavowed" D. Duke. & ur still not satisfied?
Wc626
LoL. I've just scanned this thread real quick. There are an overwhelming number of anti-Trump / republican posts. Why is everyone so apprehensive? Don't you have faith in your Clinton or Sanders campaigns?
bass4funk
They should.
Be worse if Hillary would be the leader.
So the usual Dems will be present? Why?
Nonesense, a groups is as old as the civil war itself and completely irrelevant.
Sorry, but that part of the country was ignored, looked down upon and ridiculed, mocked. There are ways of dealing with racists and bigots, we do it everyday with Democrats, you can always be diplomatic about dealing with these people. You laugh at that comment Trump made, but Holder and Obama have done it as well, but that was acceptable, right?
As long as he builds the wall, I'll vote for him, straight up! As for making America great, if Trump can't, who then? Sanders? He would be too busy taxing you to the max, you won't be able to build anything, let alone a pair of new underwear and what about Hillary, going by her record as a Senator, she was one of the worst for NY and if she can't take care of her state, then how can she take care of the country? Trump to his credit, like him or not, did create jobs and has a proven record building things. I'd rather go with someone that has credentials in that department.
Or better yet, what will the Dems do if they lose?
My worry is, if Hillary gets in the White House, there will be so much lying, deceptions, deflections and cover ups, the country will be in a worse shape than it already is, not to mention, the debt will destroy the country.
Hillary is rich too and is in bed with Wall St., but please continue....
But Hillary can relate to the people? ROFL Question, how much did she get for her last speech?
Hillary did the same thing, but the difference is, she's just sneaky and quiet about how she climbed the corporate ladder, while Trump is just direct and unapologetic about it.
She's a Chameleon
Neither of them will.
For both of these candidates. Sadly, Ohhhh, yes.
Works for him and his supporters, just as Hillary's lies and deflections work for her.
Obama is STILL not finished with scortching the country.
Trump repeats the canned complaint, spices it with racism and religious prejudice and his fans eagerly wait their chance to beat up blacks, the great future Trump has promised them.
You should watch him every night, because he shows the same dirty low-level tricks the Dems are using to get ahead in the elections.
Or Hillary. By the way, when will she denounce the BLM?