Trump comment about immigration 'problems' baffles Sweden

"Sweden. Who would believe this?”

Notice how often he says "can you believe it?" or "could you believe it?" or "would you believe it?"

Pretty much always before something which turns out not to be true.

The scary part, that some people are still missing, is this:

Fox News, a U.S. cable news channel that has sometimes been cited favorably by Trump, ran a report on Friday night about alleged migrant-related crime problems in the country.

Trump is, and always has been, getting his intelligence on foreign affairs from Fox News. Not the CIA, not the NSA, not any branch of the military, not any of his advisors. Fox News.

"What has he been smoking?"

Can you get stoned inhaling swamp gas?

We are beyond fake news now. We need a new term.

Burning Bush

I hope you are joking!

It seems like Trump may be able to prove the old saying wrong and that, 'You can fool all the GOP supporters all the time'!!

Hey trumpy would never lie right?? Remember he does not need facts or proof!!

Drip, drip, drip, drip... The flow of bumbling incompetency just goes on and on.

Have to laugh at the "clever strategy" spin. As if you could do stupid like this on purpose. right..

I can see what has happened here. There was an attack in a place called Sewhan (in Pakistan) on Friday. Someone told DT about it and his feeble little mind thought he was told Sweden and without asking for any further facts or information went ahead and made a complete clown of his self (again). And when he watched cable news he noticed there were no reports about an attack in Sweden which confirmed his "belief" that the media were deliberately ignoring these "attacks".

It might help if he gets his security briefings complete with cleverly drawn pictures that explain difficult matters in a manner you would to a child.

The American electorate chose Trump.

What does that say about the American electorate?

Didn't he also claim that his movement inspired Brexit?

Didn't that happen before last November?

There was suicide blast in Sehwan Pakistan 2 days ago, Trump might took that for Sweden.

@brbush Clever strategy.

Thanks for sharing a Russian perspective. Speaking for myself, I think many (most?) people living in what Russians call the 'west' prefer honesty; they want to be able to believe their elected officials. However, I'm fully aware there are millions of Americans who want to follow a 'strong' leader and will believe anything he says. Instead of questioning the leader, they attack anyone who questions him. Trump's playing the media better than any leader I can ever recall. He's ramping up fear levels by as you said 'Keep(ing) everybody guessing, deception, misdirection, confusion.'

Trump, by continuing his efforts to undermine US institutions like the media, seems to want to make himself the sole source of MISinformation. And his followers are encouraging him.

Another George W. Bush moment, also struggled haplessly with basic geography......

"The point now is how do we work together to achieve important goals. And one such goal is a democracy in Germany." (5th May 2006)

@gc Have to laugh at the "clever strategy" spin. As if you could do stupid like this on purpose. right..

On second thought and after wrapping myself in heavy duty foil, the Russians might be right. Trump could well be the puppet face. By continuing to blather to his loyal rabble and saying things that could be interpreted to mean just about anything, he's drawing attention to himself and making himself a yuuuge distraction. Is this a start of some wag the dog scenario?

Or it could be Trump's over 70 and lost the plot as the emperor: his companies do make the clothes he might be wearing (in sweatshops around the world).

I only hope the press remains free, that Trump and Bannon don't try to further limit them, so the rest of the world can hear different perspectives on what's happening in DC. And of course Moscow.

Trump tweeted:

"My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden."

It still doesn't clear up what supposedly happened in Sweden last night, but it's pretty clear that Trump's world view is shaped by the spin of one of the most vulgar elements of the MSM. Perhaps he could go online to read Murdoch's Sun tabloid in the UK for a flavor of what's really going on in Europe. I think the online edition still features topless women.

Everyone here seems eager to ridicule Trump

Everyone is eager to stop blatant demagoguery, the lies, and the alternative reality where Trump and his supporters live.

Even the GOP says he needs to stop talking so much. It takes the narrative away from actual work. For example, his "so-called" press conference could have been different if he used the speech and talking points his staff prepared. Instead, he just sounded unhinged....

His base is not going to fact check anything. FOX IS not going to explain anything. During campaigns exaggerating facts or use lies is OKish by our standard now but can the bar go lower? DT is showing us this is possible.

So Trump saw something on Fox News, then presented it incorrectly to the world? He needs to be more careful.

Given the events of the past few days it's clear that Donchan's frothy-mouthed rantings about the media have lost all credibility. Here's a hint Donnycakes; Try to make your lies about something that can't be checked on Google in under 20 seconds.

There was suicide blast in Sehwan Pakistan 2 days ago, Trump might took that for Sweden.

Agree, that's the most plausible explanation. Would actually be very funny if we weren't talking about the potus and terrorism.

The saddest thing is that many of DT's disciples have already forgiven him for the 'confusion' and don't really mind that this exposes him as a liar (as well as his incompetence). They may even come back with "but it could have happened in Sweden, see". What would be an embarrassing moment for many/most is just a blip on theirs and DT's radar.

F.F.N.R.U.S.

First Fake-News Reporter of the United States

Sad that Trump supporters can't call a lie a lie.

@Bass

What do you think of Trump getting his information from a MSM source? You've turned your guns on the MSM in recent times. He did tweet that he got his information from watching Fox News.

Fox did get ridiculed on the subject of terrorist threats in Europe after a terrorism expert blurted out gibberish of such ignorance and breathtaking inaccuracy it led the UK Prime Minister to label him "a complete idiot" and have the 'expert' make a grovelling apology.

I'm not saying everything they say is inaccurate, but don't you think it's disturbing that the US president is trusting the hated corporate MSM?

This kind of nitpicking and over-reaction to tiny events is why Trump won

He won because of gullible people. I understand he's recently been elected and way too soon to come to any conclusion. BUT when in your 1st month you are more concern about your "victory tour" and what people say about you it's not looking great.

You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,”

The present continuous in the past. The fake news is not Trump's only problem.

As for the Swedes, they frankly screwed themselves. It's a bit of a "chickens coming home to roost" situation, but I do feel sorry for the thousands of victims of sexual assault that were created by the government's stupid policy decision.

WOW... criticising a country for being open and friendly. Yes they have problems with immigrants and IS supporters, but are they turning into brownshirts to chase the Muslims away? No... demonising one religion over the actions of extremists is a bit like blaming all Catholics for the Spanish Inquisition (and, no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition). That's what being an open and liberal society is all about. Not some frightened superpower building walls and banning people from certain countries.

Anyway, Trump is making America a laughing stock. He is parodied the world over, the wall is parodied, Kelly Ann Whatserface is a joke, Spicer is a joke, Pence is a joke... they are all bonkers! You couldn't make this stuff up. We've had Bowling Green and now Sweden... what next, the discovery of Atlantis? Claiming the Moon for America? Oh and let's not forget his beautiful clean coal remark. Clean?

"Tucker Tonight - What the US Could Learn From Sweden"

As with everyone else, I don't bother with your links.

What the US could learn from Sweden....Decent healthcare? Social mobility? Ideas of maternity leave? How to create a society educated enough not to vote for a clown like Trump?

Am I getting close?

How much more of this incompetent liar will it take for his voters to admit they elected a buffoon. HRC would have been lightyears better than Trump and we all know it.

@bertiewoo It must be that the vast majority of the American voting public can't read, couldn't care less about who runs their country, have no ability of judgement of any kind or are just terminally thick.

If you changed your statement to 'the MINORITY of the voting public...', you're probably right. Remember, Trump was elected by a minority of American voters. Remember, too, the demographic that constituted his base voters.

Anti-intellectualism in American Life was written in 1964. The hard of thinking have always been with us.

Wow the comments here are an example of regurgitating innuendos and fake news. Below is the transcript of what President Trump said about Sweden.

... trump's comments here

I don`t see "Terror attack"

'Fake news' is news written about something that didn't actually happen, with a wilful intent to deceive the readership.

The news article never claimed it was a terror attack. The only mention of that term in the article was this:

“Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound,” former Foreign Minister Carl Bildt wrote on Twitter.

The article quoted someone's tweet, and that person used the term terror attack.

So what specifically in this article was fake? What part of the article was fake, and didn't actually happen? Which part was written with a wilful intent to deceive?

Let's stop with this attempt at defining 'fake news' to be 'news I don't agree with' mmkay?

It is obvious (and he said on Twitter too) that he was discussing all the problems Sweden is having

No he was not: "“You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,” Trump said."

Last night seems pretty specific to me, not a general situation.

It is obvious (and he said on Twitter too) that he was discussing all the problems Sweden is having that he saw on the Fox News report.

Ahh, so the problem here is that people took his words to mean what he said, rather than what he meant.

Sounds legit.

Trump gets his information from Fox News whose motto is "Balanced and Fair" No wonder he is spouting such nonsense. How do you know that for a fact. You spying on Trump????

Nearly all of his unhinged tweets have language that comes straight from Fox news. Sometimes, within 10 minutes of the language being uttered by Fox news. It is obvious where he is getting his information and perspective.

In this case, Trump and his press secretary cited a Fox show as the source of his comments.

He needs to stay away from the TV. He doesn't seem intelligent enough to discern what is real and what isn't, or to understand when he is out of his depth and should ask an expert. Plus, I wouldn't think he had time to indulge in TV.

Here's the bottom line. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.

It is obvious what he is referring to- not a specific event, but a policy that has, from any reasonable reading of the situation, been horrible for Sweden.

Um, last night is a specific event.

@attila Not my post, do better. But I'd say they are gullible because they fell for the lies of a liar. This is a man who lied about THE PREVIOUS DAY'S WEATHER at a meeting of thousands of people and his supporters believed him.

Latest Trump tweet confirms worst suspicions:

My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden.

"Worst" not just because of what he said but how he came about saying it: seriously, a president of the United States incorporating into a speech unverified info he picked up from a Fox news show? I am an instructor at university, and even I verify facts before espousing them in a class. And what the hell is Trump doing watching Fox in the first place? Does he have so much free time between signing executive orders and jetting to his "Southern White House"?

At any rate, he is wrong: Sweden crime rates have remained relatively flat over the last decade despite the influx of immigrants, and while the per-capita crime rate of immigrants is higher than the general society, when factoring in socioeconomic status, it is roughly the same as natives. But that's just statistics - you know, objective reality, AKA "fake news."

Let's see, first it was Bowling Green, then it was some terrorist attack by Muslims in Atlanta, now it's crime in Sweden. What a hypocrite! He likes accusing others of 'fake news', but doesn't seem to mind dishing it out himself.

Trump said he knows lots of words, including the best ones. It can't be imprecise speaking which is the problem. The 'last night' is puzzling.

I'm just struggling to work out how he made a mistake. He told us he comprehends things better than just about anybody.

Because he obviously hasnt learned yet that he needs to be sooooo careful with every single word that comes out of his mouth in a live, public setting.

You mean that thing that pretty much every president ever has understood, because when they make gaffes it turns into situations like this?

You guys wanted a president who shoots from the hip, one who was different. Well the thing you decided to ignore was that you can change the president, but the country their presiding over is still the same. You choose someone who doesn't know how to operate within the system, you get someone who spends their time having to justify what they said, instead of moving forward and getting things done.

You lie in the bed you made. You guys made this bed. It seems it's not all that cozy though.

Pretty much and the left in Europe are bewildered as to why the far right is becoming more and more popular.

We're not bewildered. We understand that it's all based in fear.

It's hard to make people drop fear though.

President Trump never said anything about a terrorist attack in Sweden. He was referring to an interview with filmmaker Ami Horowitz about the toll multiculturalism is taking on the Swedes that aired on the FNC the previous night.

And yet, what he said was you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. No reference to the MSM anywhere in that statement. And then when he clarified it, he admits he's getting his information from that same MSM that you guys spend so much time criticizing. So, are we to understand that you actually think the MSM can be trusted, and not just trusted, but trusted enough that the president should be taking his information from there and not from his actual teams?

ONE specific, in a paragraph of general statements, during a pep rally, which is easily explained by something that was on TV the previous evening.

And how exactly were people who don't watch Fox News supposed to have known it was on TV the night before when watching his speech?

This kind of nitpicking and over-reaction to tiny events is why Trump won

This kind of nit-picking of speeches has been done to all presidents in modern history, on everything they say. You guys picked a president who is unable to keep things in the realm of fact and truth, and now get angry when people call him out for saying things that aren't in the realm of fact and truth, even though every president is called out when they say something not in the fact of realm and truth.

You wanted a guy who doesn't play the game. You got it. This is the result. How does that bed you made feel while you're lying in it?

What really is funny is the ad hominem and vitriol attacks that libs spew when they don't like someone, I hated the last president 44, but had I ranted about his physical attributes, I would have been considered a raving out of control racist, but when Whites get insulted, it gets a pass. Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Fortunately, the present president (45) never attacked the previous president (44) due to physical characteristics. The fact that 45 insisted year after year for an original copy of a birth certificate had nothing at all to do with 44's color, for example. I am proud of the steadfast way in which 44 welcomed and supported 45 over the years rather than ranting and raving over supposed citizenship issues until the issue became so toxic that even the most crazed were forced to drop it.

The Swedes made a terrible error in accepting so many so fast.

Says who, Fox? Breitbart?

Nothing to do with being open or friendly- those are charming sentiments but have no place in policy making at the national level

By whose standards, yours?

Amazing how some people think similar (pre-sunbed/Frito-Lay) pigmentation means similar values.

When the American electorate chose Bush I was flabbergasted. When he was reelected my flabbers experienced new heights of gasting. And with Trump, coming so soon after the monkey, I came to the conclusion that there must be a massive education problem in the U.S.A.

The idiot ramblings of the arch buffoon Trump were very well publicised well before the election. And STILL he was elected. If anything, this fool is denser and less informed than GW and that's quite a compliment.

It must be that the vast majority of the American voting public can't read, couldn't care less about who runs their country, have no ability of judgement of any kind or are just terminally thick.

Yeah lets try to ridicule Trump and claim that he was speaking about a terror attack that happened last night when he wasnt.

So can you translate 'last night' in the statement You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden from Trumpese to English?

Ok, so now is anyone going to DO anything about the actual problems that exist?

Let Sweden and Swedish people deal with their issues (if you are Swedish go vote for the people representing your views). Here the main issue is not what we do but how we do it. Trump decided to speak before thinking, twisting the truth, calling media fake and his opponents liars. He is making a fool of himself (and USA) every time he tweets, comments, or speaks on TV. He act as a pyromaniac fireman. Creating a fake problem and offering solutions to it when he should be focusing on real issues (unemployment, education, healthcare). I guess he is too busy celebrating his victory to take care if his own people.

you look at what's happening last night in Sweden

No-one manipulated by a mendacious populist?

How do you know that for a fact. You spying on Trump????

Because that is exactly what Trump tweeted.

My statement as to what’s happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden

All of the name calling, pettiness, and protesting about EVERYthing (while knowing nothing about it) just makes the left look ridiculous to the average American.

Well no, only to Trump supporters. Only 20% of the people voted for Trump, and he only has a 40% approval rating, so not the Average American.

I had no idea the other side was this bad until Trump won and started triggering them to announce their true feelings/intentions.

Yeah, unfortunately the election of Trump triggered a lot of people to announce their true feelings. On both sides. Some of those opinions are disgusting on both sides.

Wow! Cherry picking par excellence:

In cases where the crimes were carried out by offenders in a larger group in public places and in public swimming pools the perpetrators have been mainly youngsters who have applied for or have recently received asylum in Sweden

PARENTAL ADVISORY: may contain critical thinking

Asylum seekers' cultural propensity for being in groups* higher than Swedish (or US) average

https://geert-hofstede.com/sweden.html

(*excludes Abba)

Wait a minute! So we should disregard his tweets when he says something and then we should take it as fact when he says something, which is it? You guys can't have it both ways.

This is the most ridiculous attempt at logic you've made so far. So to get this straight, you're saying that even though he said he got the information from Fox News, we shouldn't believe it because he's also tweeted lies about other things?

Wow.

It seems like trumpy is gonna blame the MEDIA, Mexico,SNL,the previous administration, UFO's and whatever else he can imagine in that orange head of his,all the way into another term. I mean after all in his words he has accomplished more than most in less than a month!!!!

Thanks, Attila - exactly what would be expected to happen given their socioeconomic status. Want to increase crime? - Have a baby! There is a statistical chance that your child will go on to a life of crime.

Granted, there is the option of refusing entry to desperate refugees just in case. America has a long history of this from the Asians and Irish and eastern Europeans, but in each case, America has eventually come to its senses - and is America weaker for that or stronger? Mexicans have perennially been in the spotlight (try to imagine America without Mexicans!), and Muslims are attracting attention now.

America is not Japan. That is precisely why America is thriving while Japan is withering. Sweden welcomed these immigrants yesterday and still do so today. That in itself should be telling.

These are the big news stories from Sweden on the day Trumpf was on about...

A man setting himself on fire at a plaza in central Stockholm Famous singer Owe Thornqvist suffering technical problems in rehearsals A man killed in workplace accident Road closures in northern Sweden due to "harsh weather" A police car chase through central Stockholm after a suspected drunk driver

As I read somewhere, maybe it was someone arrested for the Bowling Green Massacre, or an unreported (because you know the media doesn't report terror attacks) by AL-IKEA.

The man is not presidential material... he reminds me more of Caligula... maybe he'll make a horse one of his team.

Atilla, I can appreciate your sentiments. The line between "refugee" and "migrant" is often quite fine, yet in either case, why would either the border countries or the migrants themselves be content with being simply housed across the nearest border? Most important is the attitude of the host country. If Sweden welcomes these hardened young people who have clearly surmounted many hurdles to end up in a land so very foreign from what they left, who is Trump (or you) to criticize?

I'm from California, and I know that the legal realities between Mexico and the US are way out of wack with business requirements, particularly in the agriculture sector. Stopping all undocumented migration (note: not always "immigration" as many return home either annually or after a few-year stint) and many economic sectors in the US would crash. Like it or hate it, you have to make a choice. To add, many studies have shown illegal immigrants to the US having a far lower prevalence for crime than the population as a whole for the same reason I don't risk smoking pot in Japan: bye-bye, never come back.

"Backward societies" - Do not confuse a society with its constituent parts. Americans as a whole love guns. I am American but abhor them. Sometimes I'm surprised that, given the American fondness for firearms, Japan even admits us.

Trump's sudden, out-of-the-blue reference to Sweden discombobulated the public and wrong footed the pundits who haven't quite got used to the reality that Trump's main source of information is not the CIA (who appear to be reluctant to share what they know with their boss), but Faux News and the much maligned fake news programs of the TVMSM he's ironically hopelessly addicted to. Sweden has had problems with large-scale immigration (1/8th of the population) for several years so the situation inside the country is not exactly "news". So why did Agent Orange work himself up into a lather over Sweden? Simple! Columbus "discovered" America in 1492 and Trump discovered Sweden in 2017!

and STILL the sycophants here support Trump! Yeesh

Laguna; a bit OT, but there are NO industries or economic sectors in the US that would disappear without illegal labour. At worst, the price of a restaurant meal or hotel room would increase by a dollar, or a head of lettuce by 25 cents.

Perhaps. You wouldn't think so be the squealing many CEOs make whenever the topic of increasing the minimum wage arises (such as Andrew Puzder, Trump's labor secretary choice and a staunch opponent of the existence of any minimum wage at all), but if they can find the labor, perhaps they wouldn't mind paying $15 an hour. If they can find the labor, that is; some agricultural companies in CA are already paying that rate even for illegal laborers. Think about it: in the shadow of silicon valley, the most highly payed and expensive areas in the world, would you like to toil in a field in broiling heat or driving rain while living several to a room just so that you can send the dollars earned from your sweat to your poor relatives back home? Didn't think so - not many would.

Perhaps this will be good for wildlife, letting these vast stretches of farms run fallow and return to nature.

Yes because when you want to talk to an informed electorate, you go to Florida

You have a 25th amendment, use it

before it's too late

So Sehwan = Sweden? Proof conclusive of what has previously only been hinted at: the Dumpster cannot read.

While everybody else fumbles trying to figure you out, proceed with your plan unabated. LMFAO, thats got to be the most pathetic excuse yet given for Trumps ramblings. Just one problem the only fumblings have been by Trump and his administration, his plans have been abated and none of his policies have come to fruition, his Muslim ban shot down in flames. Whats next saying Fox news is fake also!? LOL

"If it makes people happy to think that he is so stupid that he mistook a place in Pakistan for Sweden go right ahead. Trump got where he was by all the people just like you underestimating him. It is obvious (and he said on Twitter too) that he was discussing all the problems Sweden is having that he saw on the Fox News report."

So first he confused Sweden and Pakistan. Then he used the terrorist attack in Pakistan to confirm the problems Sweden is encountering. This is in the light of a news report from an MSM source which was ridiculed in the past for featuring a terrorism expert informing us that the city of Birmingham in the UK is 100% Muslim and a no-go area for police - much to the bemusement of the non-Muslim residents of that city and non-Muslim members of Birmingham's constabulary.

Is that it? Whichever way you want to look at it, it's not very impressive, is it?

Wow the comments here are an example of regurgitating innuendos and fake news. Below is the transcript of what President Trump said about Sweden. I don`t see "Terror attack"

No need for Trump to say 'terror attack' to know that's what he meant or tried to imply. He's talking about 'something' (what?) that apparently happened the previous night in Sweden then links it to 4-5 places where terror attacks occurred in the last couple of years!

A bit like if I was saying "look at what happened in X, just awful. And same thing 70 years ago, look at what happened at Treblinka, or Auschwitz, Dachau, Buchenwald." Don't you think that I would be implying that what happened at Treblinka etc could very well happen at X or has just happened? Didn't have to use 'genocide' or 'concentration camp' for that.

That's what DT did and has been doing for quite a while now.

Trump spouts "trump talk" a stream of loutish blather only the under educated understand.

Some were, but I would've felt the same had Gore won. Thank God, that didn't happen! yet 8 yrs later Bush left as one of the least popular POTUS, went to war on a lie, that made the whole of the middle east unstable and war still rages today. Just of note I was backing Bush when he won, I was very mistaken.

Mouth, insert foot

That's fake news by Trump

which is what I meant, just to clarify any misunderstanding.

Ahh, so we were supposed to read what you meant, rather than what you wrote.

Very Trumpian.

Good old Trump:

Trump: "I had the biggest Electoral Win since Reagan!"

Reporter: "Nope. Obama's was bigger."

Trump: "Well... that's what I have written here... I meant Republican."

Reporter: "Nope there, too"

Trump: "Well, that's what I was told. I don't know." (waves hands in air).

BlacklabelFEB. 20, 2017 - 12:17PM JST

All of the name calling, pettiness, and protesting about EVERYthing (while knowing nothing about it) just makes the left look ridiculous to the average American.

Talk about the "average American" all you like when the next candidate you support wins the popular vote.

Maybe he meant the massacre at Fraggle Rock.

Most of what the Toddler-in-Chief says baffles someone !

If you want some interesting perspectives on the election, I suggest you read Scott Adams' blog- he's the creator of the "Dilbert" comic. He is one of few who predicted a Trump victory early on, and has very good reasons for doing so.

I watched a long interview with him, and one thing that both sides got wrong was that his prediction of a Trump victory meant he supported Trump. The guy actually doesn't even vote. But he used to be a hypnotist, and he has done a lot of study into the science of persuasion, and he said that Trump is better at persuasion than almost everyone he's ever seen, which is why he predicted a win so early on.

If you look at the worship of Trump by his supporters, even in the face of a disastrous first month, where he has already filled the swamp he promised to drain, it's pretty much impossible to find any fault in Adam's reasoning. Trump has pretty much hypnotized his followers.

Atilla: Statistics show that only about 3-4% of illegal immigrants work in agriculture. Not hard to replace with either legal immigrants or citizens.

I mentioned that Trump Wine was hiring foreign workers in Virginia for manual labor and you scoffed. If it's not hard for the average American it shouldn't be hard for a billionaire like Trump.

He clarified what he meant a few hours ago, that he was referencing the Fox News story that was last night.

Then why did he say You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden and not 'You look at what’s happening last night on Fox News'?

Talk is cheap.

And yet, he keeps getting hung up on it.

In my lifetime I have never ever seen a President elect then President do what he said he would do.

Obama didn't say he would initiate public health care? Or he didn't get it done?

No, Not at all! I was just shaking my head and going, wow!

Oh, well seeing has 'uh-huh' is a term of agreement, I can see that you expected us to read it as you meant, rather than what you said.

Very trumpian.

Keep everybody guessing, deception, misdirection, confusion.

Clever strategy.

So you're saying Trump is doing what he is accusing the media is doing

Can we say "clever strategy" to the media too?

Attilathehungry: "ONE specific, in a paragraph of general statements"

ONE specific comment about last night IN SWEDEN, when you are saying he was referring to the general situation in Sweden, which very clearly was not. Even he denied it at first saying, "That's what I heard on FOX". It's only his usual damage control, short-tempered minions who later came up with the "speaking in general" comments when, again, he was doing anything but when referring to Sweden. But tell us, what happened in Sweden the night before this speech, generally or otherwise? :)

bass4funk: "I think people are already staying away from TV"

Except Trump, who seems to get all of his information from it, then claims that fiction is fact. At least John Oliver paid for some adds to educate him on a few truths he should have known long ago.

Here's the transcript of Trumps Sweden comments:

Trump: "Here's the bottom line, we've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden! Who would believe this? Sweden! They took in large numbers, they're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what’s happening in Brussels. You look at what’s happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris. We’ve allowed thousands and thousands of people into our country and there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing. So we’re going to keep our country safe."

In context, he's talking about people coming into a country

Trump made a mistake about Sweden

But it's one thing to make a mistake, and another thing to make a mistake about another country. It's like saying something bad about a friend's family that turns out to be wrong - may cause damage in relationships. Though in terms of damage, this mistake is relatively low. So be careful when it's your affairs, but be more careful when it's your friend's affairs - make sure first that ya got all your ducks in a row before ya make a claim.

sf2k at Feb. 20, 2017 - 07:53PM JST and STILL the sycophants here support Trump! Yeesh

Worry not they'll soon be back to independent Republicanism. Just like they did after blindly cheering on W Bush. Several of those individuals still rant here....

Bass, however you try to make excuses and blame it all on libs, Trump is making America the laughing stock of the world. He's a bigger joke than GW Bush and that's saying something. A guy who puts himself forward as a world leader who confuses a country in Scandinavia with a region in Pakistan!

What????

He's making Americans look like complete idiots.

Look in the dictionary at partisanship and you'll see the Republican party ROFL!

No, I see a fractured Democratic and marginalized party.

Sounds like KellyAnn on an off day..

if you can find more than 10 getting in people's faces, threatening

only one example needed: the "I wanna punch this guy in the face," Role Model-in-Chief:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zvOZ17eSE

Well after claims of the biggest crowd ever, biggest electoral win in decades, etc., I think it's fair to say that Trump fans can add another fake news story to the pass list.

Meanwhile, their complaining about CNN rages on.

Actually he seems trying to leverage the famous "NO GO ZONE" syndrome, fear of muslim in Europe that FOX News has been reporting already in France and UK, of course, those are all lies and fake news :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gorU1WztIGw

Trump gets his information from Fox News whose motto is "Balanced and Fair" No wonder he is spouting such nonsense.

This is a total reversal of information flow. The guy should not be watching TV.

I am not a journalist, but I believe the news should be getting its information from the government, which the news confirms with independent sources to make sure it is true before releasing a story. In this case, Trump's government is getting its information from the news, which they then provide to the news.

Trump ends up looking dumb because his source for the Sweden comment turns out to be Fox News, which is known for its lack of credibility and willingness to distort the news to fit its conservative agenda.

Trump has a multi-billion dollar information gathering apparatus that he should be using to get his information. Heck, even wikipedia would be better. However, he doesn't use the intelligence departments because it isn't giving him the narrative he wants. Trump needs someone to blame, which was the focus of his campaign and how he won the election.

Who needs the truth when you have feeling! :P

We understand that it's all based in fear.

Uh-huh....

Glad to see you agree.

I guess Liberals are afraid of a successful presidency.

That comment makes about as much sense as a Trump rambling. Who would be afraid of a successful presidency?

Trump made a mistake, it happens, it's just funny when he makes the smallest infraction you would think, someone had just died.

Isn't that the exact intention, Bass?

Look, gullible patriots, a squirrel!

ONE specific, in a paragraph of general statements

Hypermiling on alternative facts. We are impressed!

Do you think the Swedes still board their longships and sack towns on the coasts of Northern Europe?

Gosh that's a clever retort. Ever been to Sweden, Bill?

Not one person on JT has money or could make the kind of money Trump made through his career

Try Deutsche Bank for a second opinion.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/deutsche-bank-examined-trump-account-for-russia-links

That was actually president 44.

Nope 45 ROFL!

The right? No, no, the left, always been since the 60's.

Nope, the right since the dawn of time ROFL!

So why do the left keep stooping so low, pathetic.

If the left put their cheek on the floor they still wouldn't be as low as the right ROFL!

Hey, knock the ROFLing off. It's supposed to be a discussion about Trump's verbal diarrhea. If you don't, the mods will come round and stick that ROFL so far up your Benghazi you won't know whether to believe Obama may be a Muslim or join a lunatic fringe.

Heh, I wonder if Bass has realized that I'm just spitting out the same rhetoric he always spouts, that can't be qualified and is as meaningless as Trump's verbal diarrhea.

Moderator: Please stop posting ROFL.

I suppose it doesn't take much to "baffle Sweden" or brainwashed sheep anywhere.

I know, Americans seem baffled about that terrorist incident at the white house last night, so much so that they're muzzling the press about it.

Now that Trump won, they want the system changed. yet Trump himself said the electoral college was broken. Considering the democrats have now lost two elections in the last five , even while winning the popular vote, who can blame them for wanting to change this discriminatory system.

Trump made a mistake!

And that, Bass, makes it OK?

The guy with the bad hair, who wouldn't look out of place in a clown's suit and red nose knows so LITTLE about world affairs that he confuses a place in Pakistan with a whole COUNTRY in Scandinavia. It's a bit like a surgeon saying, "Oh dear! Was that an artery? Is that why the blood is spurting out?"

Many of you were not aware Trump did not create story.

But he did. Fox aired the piece on immigration in Sweden the night before as part of the Murdoch/Bannon scaremongering narrative to support Trump's attempted Muslim Ban.

Stop ridiculing Trump

He's a self-made man, Toshiko.

Actually I think most Americans would be happier if the anti-Trumpers would quit whining and start doing what they can to help our current president succeed in making America great again.

Nope. Most Americans would prefer it Trump would not say stupid things.

I cannot understand why people who claim to be "educated" would not know that Trump was referring to a documentary on Fox the previous night

You equate 'educated' with being up to date with what airs on Fox?

(1) Most of the world don't even get Fox on their tellies

(2) It wasn't a documentary, it was an interview with some bloke whose claims have been deemed false or unsubstantiated by the Swedish authorities, criminologists and a wide range of news organizations and fact-checkers

(3) Trump gave no indication that he was referencing Fox News so no one listening would have any reason to assume that was what he was talking about. He said 'You look at what's happening last night in Sweden'. He did not say 'You look at what was claimed about Sweden last night on Fox News'.

Even liberal CNN is now reporting that the Swedes' smug post-Trump comment reaction was premature, given the immigrant riots that erupted the other night.

Just more made-up nonsense like almost everything else that spills out of the Dumpster. Followed by a straight lie in his defence by the White House:

"The White House has said Donald Trump was speaking about general “rising crime” when he seemed to describe a non-existent terror attack in Sweden on Saturday night, as the president defended his ideas about banning refugees and travel from seven Muslim-majority countries."

Transparently false. Why would a general comment about crime specify a particular day/time? And be mentioned in the same breath as locations of actual terrorist events - Germany, Paris, Brussels, Nice?

"In this case, Trump and his press secretary cited a Fox show as the source of his comments."

"And even if he did, what's wrong with that? Hillary had CNN in her pocket and Obama had MSNBC."

Well, all three are part of the corporate MSM. As you started reminding us since Trump's rise, these people are not to be trusted.

I've actually got quite a bit of sympathy for your point of view.

Amazing how so many JT posters here still don't get the big picture

How each generation of Americans gets its very own bogeyman?

The relationship between Big Oil and Big War?

Or photo-op Christianity?

Hey Libs!!! Do you think calling all republicans stupid will get any to cross-over to your way of thinking?

I agree, the name calling doesn't help the cause.

But your comment is decidedly one-sided, as there are plenty of Republicans who do exactly the same.

Turns out Trump was right about Sweden.

He was? What was the terrorist attack that happened the night before his speech?

Strangerland, I saw this headline in more than one place early yesterday morning when I checked the news...

“Trump cites non-existent terrorist attack ‘last night in Sweden’ to justify Muslim ban at Florida rally”

I love seeing the left/librals here on JT in meltdown about Trump misspeaking, but sending a message that is true: Sweden has a huge immigration problem. There are parts of Malmo that are not Swedish, with schools that have nothing but Muslim students.

Let's hope the Swedes can pull off the resettlement of a large number of non-European immigrants of various races and ethnicities and still maintain their Swedish character

What, their egalitarian, tolerant and internationalist nature? Or some BS Aryan myth?

Not one person on JT has money or could make the kind of money Trump made through his career and did what did politically

There is Bill Gates. And Gates and Trump are not on JT. Trump says lots of crazy stuff that is not true like having the wall built and the Mexicans paying for it. He also hasn't abolished ObamaCare as he promised. Also, Hillary hasn't been arrested- another of many Trump broken promises.

Don't forget that what Trump did Bill Gates can do 50x over.

According to my Swedish buddy there are big problems with immigrants in some cities there but more so with eastern European organised crime gangs, than middle eastern refugees.

If you are counting registered US voters then about 26% voted for Trump.

Population of the USA: 324,420,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States

Number of Trump voters: 62,979,636 http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

Percentage of the population that voted for Trump: 20.3%

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/08/alleged-gang-rape-facebook-shocks-sweden/97633012/

So did this happen or not? Is it fake news or real news & who are the suspects?

Actually I think most Americans would be happier if Trump didn't say stupid things. You can bend over and support it all you want, but others don't have to.

I've learned....That to ignore the facts does not change the facts. Sweden, and much of Europe, has become a mess due to mass immigration by Muslims who will not assimilate. For Sweden to deny this fact is to deny reality.

notagain That would be CNN, MSMBC, ABC News...

King of fake news is Fox News, Birmingham is a no go city for non-Muslims and London has police enforcing Sharia law (according to them)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zF7nbEvwY

The Swedes claim they are baffled and yet two days after Trumps comments there is a large riot by a group of refugees. I guess if they can't wish the problem away they can just try ignoring it. Hope they have fire insurance.

60 minites did a piece about the increase in immigrant crime a while back...The crew was actually physically attacked. I am not pro Trump by any means but to say that a problem does nor exist there is just counter productive.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2561/60-minutes-tv-crew-attacked-and-beaten-in-sweden.html

I am going to give the demented orange baboon the benefit of the doubt here - he was talking off the cuff and speech patterns are rather different. And despite his claims to "know the best words" he is fairly poor at using them. So let's assume that he was talking about a Fox news report on Sweden.

I wonder where he gets the time to watch rolling news. I barely do and I am not president of the US. And nor do I have access to a huge civil service and intelligence service that could give me balanced reports.

But having been in Stockholm quite recently, you can see the impact of mass immigration on the place. In the city centre itself, there are a large numbers of gypsy beggars (most likely legally from Romania). It is quite staggering - almost every hundred yards there is a woman dressed in rags begging. I had no idea what the men were doing.

In the outskirts there are communities of non-EU immigrants. While I had no reason to suggest any were a threat, it was clearly very different to the Sweden of old.

The country has been very accepting of immigration traditionally but this is clearly now being challenged, as can be seen in opinion polls.

Here's an idea. Go to youtube. Type in 'swedish people talk about muslim immigrants'. Press search. Read and weep.

Ok, that's your opinion, but many don't agree.

With only 20% of the people having voted for Trump, I'd say my opinion is much more likely to be true than the opinion you stated that I was replying to.

whining and complaining is the textbook liberal narrative, so very, very sad.

Look in the dictionary at whining and at complaining, and they've actually included the Republican logo ROFL!

Moderator: We have already asked you to stop posting ROFL.

Wow! Trump is so great he can even predict the future.

He said something happened the previous night. Hardly a prediction.

It's not surprising he'd say it, or that his minions (most of whom probably don't know where Sweden is) would lap it up, considering the following results of a 2002 survey: "About 11 percent of young citizens of the U.S. couldn't even locate the U.S. on a map. The Pacific Ocean's location was a mystery to 29 percent; Japan, to 58 percent; France, to 65 percent; and the United Kingdom, to 69 percent." (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/11/1120_021120_GeoRoperSurvey.html)

Trump - the epitome of fake.

Sweden has a definite problem with immigrant crime and most people are not aware of this. Thanks to President Trump, the world has become more educated....

I really don't understand what is going on, is this guy really the President of the USA ? Getting info from FoxNews, twitting like an angry teenager. I am really puzzled... Is it really him twitting, or his comm crew ?

I cannot understand why people who claim to be "educated" would not know that Trump was referring to a documentary on Fox the previous night that showed events in Sweden, riots and assaults by "refugees" or migrants or whatever they call themselves.

This is a non-sequitur. What does being educated have to do with having watched a documentary the previous night on Fox "News"?

BertieWoosterFEB. 20, 2017 - 08:16AM JST The American electorate chose Trump.

What does that say about the American electorate?"

What that says is the American electorate must be a lot smarter than you appear to be.

By the way, Trump was referring to a documentary aired on Fox the previous night, which showed some of the crimes committed by "refugees" in Sweden. Of course the Swedish government did not like that, because they like to pretend such things do not happen and prefer to cover them up. No politician will ever admit their polices might have been wrong (although I note they never denied that the incidents in the documentary happened). Then some "refugees", ingrates that they are, rioted the very next day to prove that Trump was right after all.

Oh my...

Sweden and President Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCfhbstByU8

It just means that as a default, everything that comes out of his mouth is considered "alternative fact". It's up to the media's to prove him wrong and that's why he hates them so much.

Not by these Swedish guys:

Any Swede that doesn't agree with the Left is ignored by the Left when it doesn't fix the narrative - whether they are domestic or foreign. That's how more than a thousand young British girls got sexually assaulted and raped in Rotherham. Girls as young as girl were sexually abused but the Left didn't want to stop it because the crimes were committed by a politically protected group. Political correctness is dangerous everywhere - not just Sweden.

Trump makes no sense as he is all bluster and bluster does not make a president ! m

Only 20% of the people voted for Trump

If you are counting registered US voters then about 26% voted for Trump. Counting, just those of voting age, that % would be even lower.

Hey Libs!!! Do you think calling all republicans stupid will get any to cross-over to your way of thinking? Your mother should have taught you better. I bet she did, actually. Did you forget the lesson about name calling? It appears so.

President Trump is making lots and lots of mistakes. He probably saw 30 seconds of a TV show and assumed it was live. Simple mistake. All of Europe showed their huge hearts in accepting millions of refugees. Commenting from Japan (of all places), is a little disingenuous - 28 refugees in 2016? I'd be embarrassed. http://www.skynews.com.au/news/world/asiapacific/2017/02/09/japan-accepted-just-28-refugees-in-2016.html Not much of leg to stand on related to anything refugee related, IMHO.

Congress will learn they need to prevent Pres Trump from doing stupid things. How they do that will depend on how much BROAD support they get from Americans of all leanings. I'm a libertarian. Fiscally, I lean towards the republicans. Socially, I lean towards the democrats, unless it directly costs me thousands of extra $$$/yr. Generally, I want the govt out of my and YOUR business except when absolutely necessary. If I could, I'd try to reduce the size of the Federal govt 50% over the next 50 years. I think most Americans living outside inner cities feel the same when you ask. We are mature enough to take care of ourselves and don't need someone else to take our money because it is "good for us", then return 50% of it later. Isn't that how California feels too?

I wish Pres Trump didn't say stupid things. Definitely. I wish he didn't lie as well, but I don't have any doubt that he is trying to keep his campaign promises, just like Pres Obama tried. The fact that I don't like them all from either man, doesn't mean they shouldn't try.

Ok, so Trump got that story from FOX and what should happen to Trump that he made a small boo boo?

This is just another example of how much of a crack pot he is, the guy so smart that he is the smartest guy he knows.

Trump should act like a president and not a crack pot. He should not be creating a culture of hate in America. Soon, we will have new a breed of McVeighs bombing news institutions for perceived slights against Trump.

The GoP should impeach him at their first opportunity.

Turns out Trump was right about Sweden.

Julius... So true, so true!

Here's an interesting comment rom the Styxhexenhammer link I provided above that got 337 thumbs-up, let's see how many thumbs-down on JT it gets, lol:

I think Trump does this on purpose. its called "truthful hyperbole". you say somethng that is 90% true, but leave out just enough that your enemies will try to "debunk you". in turn, theyve just reported on a story they would never have talked about before. you think CNN would be reporting on the Sweden rape crises?

He started to talk about watching the program last night then probably remembered it was Fox and changed his mind...

Most presidents get informed by their staff members and specialists. Trump informs himself by watching Fox news, Twitter and any other fake news he finds on the internet. What an embarrassment.

GW Bush come back. All is forgiven!

That lays out the point I was trying to make so much better than I was able to.

Honestly, I feel like I am in a nightmare, and can't wake up. I want to wake up to find that this thing with Trump was just a bad dream.

"It just means that as a default, everything that comes out of his mouth is considered "alternative fact"

Not by these Swedish guys:

Oh my...

Swedish Democratic Party says Trump is Right about Sweden -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBlL7CKJ30

It may be news to the rest of the world, but gang warfare has been a feature of our country for years now. Stockholm has been witness to Dickensian scenes of young pickpockets and thieves playing games of cat-and-mouse with the police, who feel powerless. Until fairly recently, Sweden was admired for its progressive social policies. Today, one in seven voters supports the Sweden Democrats, a populist party until recently reviled in polite Swedish society.

The problems relating to immigration have been building up for years, but the country’s left and right were united in maintaining employment regulations and rent controls that kept immigrants unemployed in ghetto-like suburbs. As a result, we lost valuable time. Three years ago, there were riots in socially deprived areas of Stockholm, and it’s only got worse since then. A parallel society is emerging where the state’s monopoly on law and order is being challenged. ‘Today, the gang environment is — well, I don’t want to exactly call it the Wild West, but something in that direction,’ says Amir Rostami, an authority on Swedish organised crime who teaches at Stockholm University.

More on chilling tales of what is going on in sweden http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/

"Trump makes no sense as he is all bluster"

Not according to these Swedish guys:

Swedish Democratic Party says Trump is Right about Sweden -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBlL7CKJ30

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/763354/Migrants-blame-serious-crimes-Sweden-police-officer-blasts-rant

Despite getting lots of public support from Swedes, this policeman is now facing hate crime charges simply for pointing out the facts that those "baffled" people in the government deny.

Laguna; you are wrong about the crime rate in Sweden. I checked a few progressive sources, and they very carefully check the crime stats. Until 2014, that is. Using that metric, there has been no large increase in crime. However, if you check the numbers for AFTER 2014, the situation changes. 200,000 migrants (the vast majority of whom are young men) from intolerant and illiberal countries arrive in a nation of less than 10 million. What do you expect would happen?

Sweden’s crime rate has fallen since 2005, official statistics show, even as it has taken in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from war-torn countries like Syria and Iraq.

... but since 2005, Sweden has had an increase in cases of rape and other sex crimes.

Trump is spot on about Sweden apart from the last night part. They have massive problems on their hands due to unfettered immigration from Islamic countries.

Swedish men in particular need to grow a pair and do a better job of protecting their womenfolk.

I don't think he ever suggested a terrorist attack but there are riots again tonight started by police intervention in Rinkeby followed by riots and looting.

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/polisingripande-i-rinkeby-foljdes-av-upplopp-och-plundring/

Wow! Trump is so great he can even predict the future. Riots in Rinkeby or little Mogadishu, near Stockholm.

Police fired warning shots at stone-throwing youths in Rinkeby, Stockholm, on Monday evening. For a time, the police were withdrawing from the area where two violent riots are now being investigated. Even cars have been burned and several shops have been broken. Two people, including a shopkeeper, have been abused.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Lz524/polis-avlossade-varningsskott-mot-stenkastare-i-rinkeby

Don't bother looking for this story on the MSM after their three day Trump bashing about his Sweden comment.

Citizen2012FEB. 20, 2017 - 09:40AM JST Actually he seems trying to leverage the famous "NO GO ZONE" syndrome, fear of muslim in Europe that FOX News has been reporting already in France and UK, of course, those are all lies and fake news :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gorU1WztIGw

I don't personally know about "no go zones" in Paris or other European cities, but I have friends in the UK who inform me that there really are "no go zones" in some cities with large Muslim populations in England. I don't think they are lying. If you frequent YouTube, there are all kinds of videos that allegedly show some no go zones in France and other places. But I suppose you, like most people, just believe what you choose to believe.

"The White House has said Donald Trump was speaking about general “rising crime” when he seemed to describe a non-existent terror attack in Sweden on Saturday night, as the president defended his ideas about banning refugees and travel from seven Muslim-majority countries."

SenseNotSoCommon at Feb. 20, 2017 - 02:10PM JST Let's hope the Swedes can pull off the resettlement of a large number of non-European immigrants of various races and ethnicities and still maintain their Swedish character

What, their egalitarian, tolerant and internationalist nature? Or some BS Aryan myth? ............................................................................................................. Character: natural disposition. Tolerance. Do you think the Swedes still board their longships and sack towns on the coasts of Northern Europe?

A simple Google query discloses that Sweden has experienced numerous riots by Muslim immigrants and has struggled to move Muslim migrants into productive employment.

Oh my...

TUCKER CARLSON TAKES ON Sweden vs President Trump the Facts!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-7pseP0P8

And here's an interesting comment:

Trump is a ( heh heh ) Genius! Get people talking, finding out facts and disproving the Leftist scum! First the media not reporting terrorism - so new reports done and stats released Now the Swedish problem and their problems are highlighted Trump is letting people do their own research Rather than spilling dialogue or not answering questions He is giving people clues and making the self defending leftists prove his point And more people are tuning out of the biased mainstream and looking into independent media He is helping the oncoming Italxit, frexit, austrian exit and danexit and soon hopefully swedxit He is helping to bring down the corrupt islam wielding EU and liberating these states with words and facts not war and finance HE IS A ( heh heh ) GENIUS!!!!!!

Oh my...

Riots Erupt in Stockholm: Trump Was Right, Just A Day Too Early

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnB4yABbGO8

notagain That would be CNN, MSMBC, ABC News...

Because he obviously hasnt learned yet that he needs to be sooooo careful with every single word that comes out of his mouth in a live, public setting. People are acting like there was absolutely nothing related to Sweden that was in the news last night, when there obviously was. Like I said, lets pretend Trump is stupid and attack him so that we dont have to see or do anything about the actual problems he was referring to.

American newscasters are in hurry that they crate their pronunciations for foreign places and words. Did Hulu guys notice Abe was called like Abe Lincoln when he was in USA? Some channels has bottom of screen in writing accuract

KakukakushikajikaFEB. 20, 2017 - 10:48AM JST It is obvious (and he said on Twitter too) that he was discussing all the problems Sweden is having

No he was not: "“You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,” Trump said."

Last night seems pretty specific to me, not a general situation."

I cannot understand why people who claim to be "educated" would not know that Trump was referring to a documentary on Fox the previous night that showed events in Sweden, riots and assaults by "refugees" or migrants or whatever they call themselves. Those people are Muslims. Nobody denied those things happened, but the Swedish government chooses to cover them up, ignore or minimize them, presumably they do not want to admit their policies may have been wrong. I have also heard denials that there are "no-go zones" in many European and British cities inhabited by Muslim refugees and migrants; I know for a fact that there are; they are not safe, especially for women. It must be wonderful to live in some kind of fantasy world where everyone is just wonderful, but if you live in such a world you are living in denial.

Just 494 out of the 162,000 refugees who applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015 have managed to get a job, according to government figures released Tuesday

Getting migrants off welfare and into the job market has been a problem for most European countries during the ongoing refugee crisis.

Sweden has a critical shortage of police officers, which means that it is easy to commit crimes and get away with them. If one would, against all expectations, get caught, the punishment in Sweden is not harsh. If someone is convicted of rape, he would be incarcerated from two to six years. In 2015, the proportion of rapes where the police actually found the suspect was 14%. This means that in 86% of the rapes, the rapist got away.

Many might say that it is racist to associate migrants with sexual crimes. The Swedish police published a report in June 2016 which gave a status report of sexual abuse. In the report, one can read the following quote:

"In cases where the crimes were carried out by offenders in a larger group in public places and in public swimming pools the perpetrators have been mainly youngsters who have applied for or have recently received asylum in Sweden."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoI-gJEOaVc

Laguna: not refugees, migrants. People who took advantage of the weakness of the EU to rush the border. By UN definition, refugees stop in the nearest safe place. They don't shop around for the best deal, as so many of Europe's migrants have done. The rest of your heartstring tugging (but irrelevant) tale is irrelevant.

Yes, Mexicans are important to the US. That is why so many can apply for legal status before entering. However, those who choose to break the law aren't needed. They hurt both the legal immigrants and themselves.

As to the crime, it has risen out of proportion to the population in Sweden. Again, if you import young men from backwards societies, what do you expect to happen?

Laguna; a bit OT, but there are NO industries or economic sectors in the US that would disappear without illegal labour. At worst, the price of a restaurant meal or hotel room would increase by a dollar, or a head of lettuce by 25 cents. A small price to pay so that legal residents and citizens get paid a decent wage and the money actually stays in the country (not sent back to Mexico/Honduras/etc.).

As for the Swedes, they frankly screwed themselves. It's a bit of a "chickens coming home to roost" situation, but I do feel sorry for the thousands of victims of sexual assault that were created by the government's stupid policy decision.

And the line between refugee and migrant is not fine, it is clear and obvious. Refugees are fleeing for their very lives, and are generally families. They don't abuse the hospitality of the neighbouring nations. Migrants are opportunists.

Trump speaks in a language that normal humans can understand. I am normal. I understood what Trump said.

No they wouldn't. Most Americans, as Superlib said, would be happy if Trump actually did a good job and didn't say stupid things.

Ok, that's your opinion, but many don't agree.

whining and complaining is the textbook liberal narrative, so very, very sad.

"Actually I think most Americans would be happier if Trump didn't say stupid things."

Actually I think most Americans would be happier if the anti-Trumpers would quit whining and start doing what they can to help our current president succeed in making America great again.

Yeah lets try to ridicule Trump and claim that he was speaking about a terror attack that happened last night when he wasnt. Lets ridicule that the report was from Fox News and not even try to see that it is TRUE. That allows everyone (including the government of Sweden) to put their head in the sand about the actual problems that he is referencing.

It is no wonder that nothing ever gets done to fix or improve anything. All of this is like a small child trying to twist the words of their parents to escape doing something on a technicality. Ok fine, was no terror attack. Fine, Fox News reported it. Ok, so now is anyone going to DO anything about the actual problems that exist?

a call for help from a citizen of sweden.

Thank you Donald Trump from Sweden Thank you Donald Trump from the bottom of my heart. Me and my friends have seen major changes in Sweden during the last 20 years for the worse. The climate of debate has become insane. They are labeling any criticism of immigrants as hate speech. There are actual laws being put into place to silence crititcs of the muslims coming to sweden. Muslims who in general cant participate in society and also bring crime and rape culture to oir beautifull country.

I have 2 daughters and I fear for their future. I have a blo de girlfriend who I fear for when she takes a walk alone.

This is not written about or the fake news blame us the native swedes for the rise in number of rapes.

It is insane and you are correct. Today Swedish media is runnings negative stories about Donald Trump as they have during the last year and a half. There is no way for us ordinary people to oppose the medias lies.

Therefore I thank you from the bottom of my heart for speaking out for us the ordinary people...

If any Glpers would like to send complaints to swedish media about their fake news it would be much appreciated.

Www.Aftonbladet.se

Www.expressen.se

But he did. Fox aired the piece on immigration in Sweden the night before as part of the Murdoch/Bannon scaremongering narrative to support Trump's attempted Muslim Ban.

Ok, so Trump got that story from FOX and what should happen to Trump that he made a small boo boo? Most Americans would be happier if the looney left would back off and let the man do his job that he was elected to do. But if Dems want to keep shooting themselves in the foot and scream and whine, that's another nail that will get hammered in their coffin, which is fine by me....

Amazing how so many JT posters here still don't get the big picture. lol

He clarified what he meant a few hours ago, that he was referencing the Fox News story that was last night. Anyone want to talk about the actual facts of that is going on in Sweden and why it should serve as a warning to other countries?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/trump-right-swedens-refugee-policy-led-problems-never-thought-possible/

You guys wanted a president who shoots from the hip, one who was different.

Talk is cheap. ACTION speaks louder than words. Trump is actually DOING what he said he would do if elected President. In my lifetime I have never ever seen a President elect then President do what he said he would do. Trump is rewarding his followers and trying to win over the independants. If successful the critics will fade away.

Talk is cheap.

Once again his agenda speaks for itself.

All of the name calling, pettiness, and protesting about EVERYthing (while knowing nothing about it) just makes the left look ridiculous to the average American. Makes me even more happy that the guy whose policies I prefer will be making the decisions the next 8 years. I had no idea the other side was this bad until Trump won and started triggering them to announce their true feelings/intentions.

I suppose it doesn't take much to "baffle Sweden" or brainwashed sheep anywhere. In fact there are all kinds of crimes committed by immigrants, migrants and refugees last night and every night in Sweden and every other country where there are large numbers of "refugees." Of course politicians and the authorities do their best to pretend they don't happen because it might show that their policies are misguided. Why doesn't the media do some in-depth investigating and talk to the victims of those crimes and maybe to the police officers who investigate them instead of relying on BS from politicians for their information?

Many of you were not aware Trump did not create story. Stop ridiculing Trump and look at a map of Pakistan.

It's hard to make people drop fear though.

I guess Liberals are afraid of a successful presidency.

Sadly the Trumpster does have a point. When you look at countries like Sweden, where they have accepted tens of thousands of refugees, there have been serious social problems. The crime rate, especially sexual assault, has soared in the past two years, primarily due to the influx of people (mostly men) from barbaric countries that do not value women and women's rights.

Trump sees it as a harbinger of what awaits any nation that is not extremely careful about who it lets in. Germany is also suffering regrets about being too illegal migrant friendly, and there have also been numerous hideous crimes committed by people who came during the great migrant wave of 2015.

I had no idea the other side was this bad until Trump won and started triggering them to announce their true feelings/intentions.

That's one big favor he has done us all - he really has exposed just how demented the left is. Seems recently many have taken to chanting "shame, shame" to drown out the voices of dissent, a la Game of Thrones. They are too dense to realize even what they are parroting.

Here's the bottom line. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.

Trump does need to slow down and complete his sentences I agree but this was obviously about the program that he was watching on the situation last night not an incident that is "happening last night."

Laguna: Statistics show that only about 3-4% of illegal immigrants work in agriculture. Not hard to replace with either legal immigrants or citizens. Even in California, where there are so many labor intensive crops, less than 25% of farm workers are illegal immigrants. In the rest of the country, the big cash crops (corn, wheat etc) are largely harvested by machinery. The idea that crops would rot in the fields due to lack of labor is a shibboleth that needs to be corrected.

Without illegals artificially depressing the labor market, there would be no need for the minimum wage to rise- it would rise to meet the shrinking labor force. Supply and demand at work.

Thunderbird: The Swedes made a terrible error in accepting so many so fast. Now they are paying the price. Nothing to do with being open or friendly- those are charming sentiments but have no place in policy making at the national level. Tell the thousands of sexual assault victims they should just grin and bear it for the sake of being open and friendly.

As for your childish insults of some of Trump's staff, I will let them speak for themselves. Generally speaking, when you lower yourself to personal attacks it is a sign that you don't have anything more substantive or intelligent to say.

You should google Sweden Immigrant problems before commenting.. SMH

Yeah lets try to ridicule Trump and claim that he was speaking about a terror attack that happened last night when he wasnt.

Trump made a mistake, it happens, it's just funny when he makes the smallest infraction you would think, someone had just died.

That allows everyone (including the government of Sweden) to put their head in the sand about the actual problems that he is referencing.

Pretty much and the left in Europe are bewildered as to why the far right is becoming more and more popular. Wake up.

It is no wonder that nothing ever gets done to fix or improve anything. All of this is like a small child trying to twist the words of their parents to escape doing something on a technicality. Ok fine, was no terror attack. Fine, Fox News reported it. Ok, so now is anyone going to DO anything about the actual problems that exist?

No, the left feel we just have to now live in a time where we just need to accept an occasional jihadist attack every now and then, it's just a part of life now, we just need to deal with it.

Oh, well seeing has 'uh-huh' is a term of agreement,

It could also be used as a "sarcastic negative response"

which is what I meant, just to clarify any misunderstanding.

Clippety: Where is your evidence that Trump voters were gullible? Again, that is just a smear against them that is pure speculation. You need to look a bit deeper and try to put aside your personal biases.

And back to the point, Trump was right. European countries are feeling massive regret over their having introduced large populations of migrants from countries that espouse illiberal values and promote rampant misogyny

We're not bewildered.

We? So when it comes to What Americans think you know full well and when it comes to Europeans, you equally know full well what everyone thinks and fears?

We understand that it's all based in fear.

Uh-huh....

Let's hope the Swedes can pull off the resettlement of a large number of non-European immigrants of various races and ethnicities and still maintain their Swedish character. If they fail, well ... it will have been a noble experiment. I might have added "cultural integration", but that is more problematic.

ONE specific, in a paragraph of general statements, during a pep rally, which is easily explained by something that was on TV the previous evening.

This kind of nitpicking and over-reaction to tiny events is why Trump won, and also why the left may be doomed in the future in the US. You have to show some sense of proportionality, not everything is worth hysteria and fainting fits.

"“You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,” Trump said."

OK, Trump misspoke there, but then "Trump said on Sunday his comment was based on a television report he had seen."

Here it is.

Tucker Tonight - What the US Could Learn From Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ckmP9j-nhg

OK, can we get on now with protecting the citizens of our country? Thanks.

Police: There are no 'no-go zones' in Sweden

Right no problems at all... "put head back in sand"

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6630452

I guess Liberals are afraid of a successful presidency.

Pretty much, spot on.

Glad to see you agree.

No, Not at all! I was just shaking my head and going, wow!

Here is the FULL Trump quote from his speech transcript:

Here's the bottom line. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.

It is obvious what he is referring to- not a specific event, but a policy that has, from any reasonable reading of the situation, been horrible for Sweden.

If it makes people happy to think that he is so stupid that he mistook a place in Pakistan for Sweden go right ahead. Trump got where he was by all the people just like you underestimating him. It is obvious (and he said on Twitter too) that he was discussing all the problems Sweden is having that he saw on the Fox News report.

Is Sweden NOT having problems? as far as I have seen they are significant. But their government doesnt like the visibility of that and it doesnt fit their narrative so they are playing dumb about it.

Go back and listen to his Florida rally speech. President Trump never said anything about a terrorist attack in Sweden. He was referring to an interview with filmmaker Ami Horowitz about the toll multiculturalism is taking on the Swedes that aired on the FNC the previous night.

Liberals/globalists are so quick to portray President Trump in a negative light because he doesn’t want this nation to become a hell-hole like a growing number of Euro countries. . . .

Because that is exactly what Trump tweeted.

Wait a minute! So we should disregard his tweets when he says something and then we should take it as fact when he says something, which is it? You guys can't have it both ways.

Nearly all of his unhinged tweets have language that comes straight from Fox news.

And you know this factually and can back it up because....

Sometimes, within 10 minutes of the language being uttered by Fox news. It is obvious where he is getting his information and perspective.

How would you know? Lol

In this case, Trump and his press secretary cited a Fox show as the source of his comments.

And even if he did, what's wrong with that? Hillary had CNN in her pocket and Obama had MSNBC.

He needs to stay away from the TV. He doesn't seem intelligent enough to discern what is real and what isn't, or to understand when he is out of his depth and should ask an expert. Plus, I wouldn't think he had time to indulge in TV.

I think people are already staying away from TV. "Intelligent?" Not one person on JT has money or could make the kind of money Trump made through his career and did what did politically, private jet, your own Penthouse businesses all over the world. I wonder how many stupid people can do that. ROFL

And that, Bass, makes it OK?

No, but I don't think the man should go in front of a firing squad. Besides, even if you don't like him, millions do, it's ok, that's your right and your prerogative. I just wish liberals would hold other liberals to the exact same standard they hold conservatives to, but liberals and partisanship go hand in hand like a PBJ sandwich.

The guy with the bad hair, who wouldn't look out of place in a clown's suit and red nose knows so LITTLE about world affairs that he confuses a place in Pakistan with a whole COUNTRY in Scandinavia. It's a bit like a surgeon saying, "Oh dear! Was that an artery? Is that why the blood is spurting out?"

What really is funny is the ad hominem and vitriol attacks that libs spew when they don't like someone, I hated the last president 44, but had I ranted about his physical attributes, I would have been considered a raving out of control racist, but when Whites get insulted, it gets a pass. Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Well, all three are part of the corporate MSM. As you started reminding us since Trump's rise, these people are not to be trusted.

But at least on FOX, they held Trump's feet to the fire, gave him credit where credit was due, the other two never did. A constant negative barrage, so bad, the people are turning it off and who could blame them. As you heard Trump say, "Fox and friends" are friendlier to him, but it's not an opinion show, big difference, it's a morning talk show.

I've actually got quite a bit of sympathy for your point of view.

Good to know.

however you try to make excuses and blame it all on libs, Trump is making America the laughing stock of the world.

Personally, I'm more ashamed of how liberals have been acting in America, truth be told, now more than ever.

He's a bigger joke than GW Bush and that's saying something.

GW was a joke? Well, I thought Obama was the biggest joke since we had a presidency, but that's my opinion.

A guy who puts himself forward as a world leader who confuses a country in Scandinavia with a region in Pakistan!

On that, you won't get an argument from me, but I understand he's human and fallible and mistakes happen, had it been Obama, this would have been blown over already. So, I'm not even going to trip over this.

He's making Americans look like complete idiots.

I really could care less what the world thinks. I leave the caring part to liberals, they care about status and being liked and loved, that was the last president, a rock star. If I want a rock star I can go down to Hiollywood, there are thousands of them roaming the blvd.

The American electorate chose Trump.

Yup.

What does that say about the American electorate?

That would depend, when liberals were in control, they never ever complained about it, EVER. Now that Trump won, they want the system changed.

Very Trumpian.

And proud of it too!

Trump gets his information from Fox News whose motto is "Balanced and Fair" No wonder he is spouting such nonsense.

How do you know that for a fact. You spying on Trump????

Worry not they'll soon be back to independent Republicanism.

Most of us that support him here are.

Just like they did after blindly cheering on W Bush. Several of those individuals still rant here....

Which was a good thing

Wow the comments here are an example of regurgitating innuendos and fake news. Below is the transcript of what President Trump said about Sweden.

Here's the bottom line. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening. We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris. We've allowed thousands and thousands of people into our country and there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing. So we're going to keep our country safe.

I don`t see "Terror attack"

When the American electorate chose Bush I was flabbergasted.

Some were, but I would've felt the same had Gore won. Thank God, that didn't happen!

When he was reelected my flabbers experienced new heights of gasting. And with Trump, coming so soon after the monkey, I came to the conclusion that there must be a massive education problem in the U.S.A.

That's your personal opinion, but would tend to disagree.

The idiot ramblings of the arch buffoon Trump were very well publicised well before the election. And STILL he was elected. If anything, this fool is denser and less informed than GW and that's quite a compliment.

One main reason is because so many people were tired of the direction the country was going in and the unwillingness of the last president to work with congress, meaning, if he didn't get his radical liberal agendas implemented then there was no working with congress and that took a toll, a very serious one for the Democrats. The best thing about Trump is, he's not a politician and not pc, very refreshing. I and many other Americans could care less if the world is dissatisfied with Trump, I respect their right to oppose, nothing wrong with it, but I equally think a tolerant person should respect the opinion of others that have a different POV.

It must be that the vast majority of the American voting public can't read, couldn't care less about who runs their country, have no ability of judgement of any kind or are just terminally thick.

Wow. Very interesting as well as insulting, but I think that last comment is a clear testament as to why so many voted for Trump and respect the man, because millions of Americans are tired to feel as IF they need world approval to get their blessing over which president they feel should govern the country. The dislike and the isolationist mentality is the reason and fuel why more and more people want a president to tell everyone else to go milk a rubber duck.