Trump criminal investigation looms over Manhattan DA race

Dems always play scorched earth politics. Republicans need to step up their game or get obliterated.

Oh, he’s GOING to prison. It’s only a question of which jurisdiction.

He’s not going to prison, but will they try to bleed him dry, probably, that’s what this suit is really about, getting as much financial compensation as they can.

This is a criminal investigation, not a civil investigation.

Facts, schmacts.

This is all about far left socialists who hate the current legitimate president of the United States, Donald Trump, who won 2020 in the biggest landslide in American history. The left has always wanted to take him down because they know that he alone has the power to clean up the swamp.

And all that crap about Trump's past history of dirty dealings--fake university, stealing from his own charity, stiffing subcontractors and banks? None of it true! And if it was, what about Hillary and Hunter?

Republicans need to step up their game or get obliterated.

Time to come up with more legislation to disenfranchise "Democrat" Party voters.

Seeing as how well other "predictions" have turned out, I will place my faith in the Judicial Branch which has proven immune to the former guy's buffoonery, thanks.

He's going to die in prison.

but will they try to bleed him dry, probably, that’s what this suit is really about, getting as much financial compensation as they can.

Who is "they"?

This is a criminal investigation, not a civil investigation.

So was the Mueller probe and the so called impeachment probe twice. Kind of hard to convict someone of a crime if none was committed to the point where the person needs to be incarcerated. But the Dems want to try again, go for it, please! How many more times do Dems need to be disappointed. Lol

Time to come up with more legislation to disenfranchise "Democrat" Party voters

Sadly, The Dems need to worry about their own leaders disenfranchising them and their party.

The Dems need to worry about their own leaders disenfranchising them and their party.

Your point is way beyond my understanding. Please explain in layman's terms.

So was the Mueller probe and the so called impeachment probe twice.

As always, you are forgetting that Trump was successfully impeached twice, and was only acquitted (and not exonerated) by his own party. Do you have trouble understanding what that entails?

Guess you guys didn’t see the small print article the next day that says the criminal investigation is into the personal taxes of the Trump Organization CFO not Trump.

they want to pressure and threaten him so he will flip and give them something useful on Trump. Whether anything exists or not, of course.

the ex-daughter-in-law law of the CFO is saying that she got a bunch of benefits years ago that she happily took but now that she is an “ex” feels might have been “wrong”.

As always, you are forgetting that Trump was successfully impeached twice, and was only acquitted (and not exonerated) by his own party. Do you have trouble understanding what that entails?

I'm going to guess the response. Something about 12 or 13 angry Democrats, the Steele Dossier, Comey, Strzok, and other "rouge" cops.

Trump has been in and out of trouble with the law most of his life. He's won some, lost some. Typical track record for a scammer.

Orlins knocked Vance for declining to bring charges against Trump's two eldest children, Ivanka and Donald Jr., in 2012 after investigating allegations they defrauded clients in a Manhattan condominium project.

Another scummy Trump family move. They lied to potential buyers about how many units had sold, creating a false sense of demand. Trump gave the buyers their money back in exchange for the buyers not cooperating in any investigation. To put it another way, he bought himself out of his lies.

See: Carter Page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

The Republican-controlled Committee released its final report on 2016 Russian election interference in August 2020, finding that despite problems with the FISA warrant requests used to surveil him, the FBI was justified in its counterintelligence concerns about Page.

Is this who you're talking about? What does he have to do with anything here?

Irrelevant to you claiming a criminal probe is being used to bleed Trump dry. 

Its all relevant because these prosecutors careers and reputations are on the line, of course it’s about bleeding him dry. If you can’t get Trump in prison for crimes, even Jonathan Turley and Dershowitz stated that, two Democrats that are going by the law, leaving the emotions aside.

Yes, because dem leaders are suppressing their own voters

In some ways, but internally, very much so

About as much as the 3rd Democrat witch hunt.

A "witch hunt" would imply Trump hasn't done anything wrong. As always, you are forgetting that Trump was successfully impeached twice, and was only acquitted (and not exonerated) by his own party. Do you have trouble understanding what that entails?

did nothing wrong. Nothing at all. Was never even charged much less convicted.

Did you miss the part where a republican-led committee found that the FBI was justified in its counterintelligence concerns about Page? Here, I'll post it again for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

The Republican-controlled Committee released its final report on 2016 Russian election interference in August 2020, finding that despite problems with the FISA warrant requests used to surveil him, the FBI was justified in its counterintelligence concerns about Page.

Here's some more details in case you're confused:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934/

Whatever Page’s motives were for helping Russian intelligence—greed, naivety, stupidity—his actions surely justified the FBI’s interest in him. There was a simple way of avoiding U.S. surveillance and a FISA court warrant. It could be summed up like this: Don’t hang out with Russian spies.

So keep investigating the Trump CFO personal taxes until 2024 so that liberal media can falsely claim Trump himself and his family are under criminal investigation.

Those are two separate investigations. Apparently you're not entirely familiar whith what's going on, so here's an easy explanation from last week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/19/trump-organization-investigation-ny-explained/

A "witch hunt" would imply Trump hasn't done anything wrong.

More liberal changed terms, spare us, it’s enough the left tries to throw down terms and pronouns to change the English language, stay grounded, but seriously, Trump allegedly committing crimes? Dems tried this twice and what happened? Nothing. And now they want to do it again??? Lol, please do.

*As always, you are forgetting that Trump was successfully impeached twice, *

Acquitted twice as well, no, I didn’t forget about that.

and was only acquitted (and not exonerated) by his own party. Do you have trouble understanding what that entails?

No, but it seems the left does. If these lawyers want to keep their licenses, and I am assuming that they do, if they follow the law straight and true, Trump will not be going to prison. I don’t care what the guys on CNN or msnbc want to push people to think. It’s the same like with the border. The only people I will listen to are the people that work along the Southern border. Everyone else is just a political sock puppet. I trust Turley and Dershowitz because both are not Trump supporters, both are Democrats and both are non-partisan.

This is irrelevant to your claim that a criminal probe is being used to bleed Trump dry

No, because that’s exactly what they’re trying to do since impeachment didn’t work….twice. So if I were these slimy lawyers, so what could I do to try and stop this man from possibly running again? Bleeding him dry, that’s exactly what I would do if I were an obsessed TDS lawyer.

black: Guess you guys didn’t see the small print article the next day that says the criminal investigation is into the personal taxes of the Trump Organization CFO not Trump.

The investigation, one of them at least, is about Trump Co giving away free benefits to employees instead of compensation to avoid taxes and other liabilities. Instead of paying execs an extra $100,000, they'd rent them a Trump apartment for next to nothing.

they want to pressure and threaten him so he will flip and give them something useful on Trump.

They won't have to pressure him. There will be a paper trail (bad) or a lack of a paper trail (really bad). Whether he takes a bullet for Trump remains to be seen, but that's his personal choice. He's a CFO so playing dumb about financial situations isn't going to fly.

Whether anything exists or not, of course.

Yes, I understand that it's your position that if anyone under investigation says anything that could implicate Trump, it's because law enforcement forced them to make up a story. I believe you'd used that position dozens of times so it's probably safe to say it is and will always be your position, even in any future cases.

Yes, I understand that it's your position that if anyone under investigation says anything that could implicate Trump, it's because law enforcement forced them to make up a story.

Embellishing it, yes.

I believe you'd used that position dozens of times so it's probably safe to say it is and will always be your position, even in any future cases.

Wonder how many more times do Dems need to have their hearts broken?

Why is the entire prosecution effort always dependent on forcing someone to “flip”?

cant law enforcement or congress or trump haters just prove a crime independently?

doesnt the person who gets a free apartment from their company have a responsibility to report that on their own taxes?

it's because law enforcement forced them to make up a story.

The Trump Organization (not Trump) supposedly gave that ex wife a rent free apartment and paid for private school for her child. Supposedly.

which she happily accepted but now that she is an “ex” she is ungrateful for. That evil man Trump! He educated my child and gave my family a place to live! Evil!

If it were something that she could be expected to return I’m quite sure she wouldn’t be saying a word.

Guess you guys didn’t see the small print article the next day that says the criminal investigation is into the personal taxes of the Trump Organization CFO not Trump.

Legally they are one in the same as it’s not a publicly traded corporation. All officers can be held criminally accountable if there was criminal activity occurring and they could have known about it.

Trump signed the tax returns. If there was false information (and we just know there was) he’s liable criminally.

And Weisleberg flipping will add context to facts already in evidence. And he will flip.

Why is the entire prosecution effort always dependent on forcing someone to “flip”?

It's not always like that. But if Trump is doing it with a hundred employees, getting the CFO to flip makes sense if he's guilty. It's not like Trump is going to confess.

cant law enforcement or congress or trump haters just prove a crime independently?

They have. Lots of Trump's circle has been convicted, even the ones who didn't flip like Stone and Manafort. Crimes proven in a court of law.

doesnt the person who gets a free apartment from their company have a responsibility to report that on their own taxes?

Both would. One other example they are looking into is Trump Co paying tuition for the CFO's family at private schools. Nothing wrong with that at all as long as both parties disclose it and account for the tax situation.

In a word: Trump. Prosecutors reportedly aim to “flip” Weisselberg

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/554762-legal-intrigue-swirls-over-ex-trump-exec-weisselberg-five-key-points

They TRIED to flip every single person. The media breathlessly reported that every one of them had or would flip.

why can’t they put together a case without forcing someone to flip? It’s a valid question.

Trump signed the tax returns. If there was false information (and we just know there was) he’s liable criminally

And usually in that case, they will ask you to pay all fines and back pay on everything that was owed or cheated on, pick your position, in any case, receiving the money is more important than putting someone in prison, if that were the case, we would have Federal prison overcrowding. Now if Trump can’t pay, then it’s a much different story, but since he can pay, prison is out of the option.

Which was punishment for their refusal to make up stories about Trump and “flip”.

Lots of Trump's circle has been convicted, even the ones who didn't flip like Stone and Manafort. Crimes proven in a court of law.

Blacklabel: Which was punishment for their refusal to make up stories about Trump

People don't go to jail for refusing to make up stories. They go to jail because they committed a crime, went on trial, and were convicted.

At this point is it safe to say you refuse to believe any verdict or settlement against Donald Trump? Because all of your positions are based on the belief that everything is just made up by corrupt law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, and juries.

And does that opinion spread to people not named Donald Trump, or just him?