Trump wants those who 'invade' sent right back without appearing before judge

Good to see President Trump putting American blue-collar workers first by refusing globalist demands to import exploitable 3rd world labor. The last time Republicans took away Democrats’ slaves was the Civil War!

Trump is right in a sense. Globalism has merits and demerits. Accepting immigration inconsiderately has a danger of destroying countries. Having people from different culture, religion, level of education etc. may cause serious problems. Democracy is only successful in countries where the countries are in high standards with mature civilizations.

You need only take one look at Europe to see what unchecked immigration brings. Let's see if we can get this wall built.

You need only take one look at Europe to see what unchecked immigration brings. Let's see if we can get this wall built.

Bingo!

Good idea. No sympathy for invaders. Europe is in the mess it's in now because of lax immigration.

Good move. That is exactly what Japan and China do, or they lock them up!

Good to see President Trump putting American blue-collar workers first by refusing globalist demands to import exploitable 3rd world labor. 

That right, and if the current immigration policies are not changed soon, the U.S.A. will officially be a 2nd world country.

Using terminology like "infest", "invade", "these people" and so forth is the language of the bigot. Trump is playing to his base. He's got it down to a tee.

It's a form of dehuminisation and as rabbi Laura Janner Klausner points out, “The numbing of empathy, the dehumanisation of other people through the encouragement of disdain are documented stages in history that have led to atrocities and even genocides.“What has happened on the US-Mexico border is a moment of reckoning as it points to a systemic toxicity in public discourse and action. This needs to be stopped now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/23/british-rabbi-trump-immigration-policy-like-genocide-theresa-may-visit

The rampant xenephobia and paranoia that we see now is nothing new. It goes hand in hand with the type of populism and demagoguery that's currently playing out worldwide.

Here we are folks. Full blown fascism, American style. Clear violation of his oath of office to enforce the laws. Grounds for impeachment.

Democracy is only successful in countries where the countries are in high standards with mature civilizations.

Which is ironic when you have a man like Trump trying to do away with democracy, due process and human rights.

If you don’t enforce your borders, you have no country. The Democrats want blanket amnesty, once these people enter the US, they shower them with entitlements and hope they vote Democrat and after that, they just abandon them. It has always been about votes for the Democratic Party, they don’t want to end chain migration, close the border, end the visa lottery program, they don’t want to end sanctuary cities, they don’t want voter IDs or ICE to do background checks or any verifications, they don’t want the police to detain or ask any questions about their legal status, the Democrats are a disease that are slowing eroding the country and they don’t care as Washington is so out of touch with what most Americans on the border want.

Watch anyone who demands that "certain people" not be given due process in court. Such people always define "certain people" flexibly, to their own advantage over you.

Just enforce the laws as written. This would mean capture those caught crossing illegally, put them in some form of detention (without separating families), have them appear in court, confirm there is no genuine need for them to stay and then deport them back to the country of origin.

Trump's stating he would bypass the judicial process is asinine. I am liberal but I agreed there is a genuine issue with illegal entry into the U.S. however doing this would be ridiculous.

Trump knows he cannot do this and I believe he knows this would not past muster with even the most conservative of higher courts and he is just blowing smoke. He is no better than the likely next leader of Mexico who wants to flood the U.S. with illegal immigrants.

Both political parties are screwing the American people on this issue - big time.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/elecciones-2018/amlo-urge-epn-detener-actos-racistas-e-inhumanas-de-eu-migrantes

Since 1776 but unraveling slowly, one stitch at a time, day by day. It is sad.

once these people enter the US, they shower them with entitlements

And the myths about these people continue. From the NY Times:

They underestimate immigrants’ education and overestimate both their poverty rate and their dependence on welfare.

Most migrants from poor countries never make it to the United States or Western Europe, instead moving to other developing countries nearby. A little over half of emigrants from Africa settle in other African countries, while 60 percent of Asian migrants relocate elsewhere in Asia.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/20/business/economy/immigration-economic-impact.html

Riiiight. When Melania entered the US on a tourist visa and immediately began working, she should have been shown the door right there and then.

@Toasted - That is a very good article and I agree with much of it.

I am all for immigration as long as it is done legally and through process.

What Trump said was beyond stupid. However, what is happening in the U.S. is not being done legally and through proper process. Perhaps the U.S. should establish a larger facility south of the border for people to apply for asylum, etc. Then people can go through the process prior to crossing the border. The likely outcome however would probably be people denied asylum in the U.S. would still try to cross.

The Democrats want blanket amnesty

No they don't. That's pure rhetoric. No Democrat has said that ever.

they don’t want to end chain migration, close the border, end the visa lottery program, they don’t want to end sanctuary cities, they don’t want voter IDs or ICE to do background checks or any verifications, they don’t want the police to detain or ask any questions about their legal status, the Democrats are a disease that are slowing eroding the country and they don’t care as Washington is so out of touch with what most Americans on the border want.

Wow, that's an amazing amount of stuff you just posted that isn't actually based in reality.

@Laguna - here is an article about what you write

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/14/17012134/melania-trump-parents-visa

I do not think this proves or disproves your point. Just information. The article indicates there is no proof or evidence she was paid when she first entered the U.S. She received in H1-B visa shortly after entering (long before she met Trump by the way... she entered in the 90's).

What the article does discuss (a much more interesting perspective) is the fact that her parents have been in the U.S. for a long time and their visa status is unknown. It is likely Melania sponsored them and brought them to the U.S. The hypocrisy here is that this is the type of visa "chain migration" that Trump wants to disallow. No one seems to want to answer what type of visa Melania's parents are on.

For the Trump supporters - yes this article is biased against Trump - however I think the facts check out pretty well.

As much as I dislike Trump I have a bit of respect for Melania. I am not sure I could hold up as well as she has giving all of the vile things said about her and her son. As I have said before I do not think she wants anything to do with being First Lady. There are times where it appears she does not want to have anything to do with being Trump's wife either.

What ticks me off is that I agree illegal immigration to the U.S. is an issue that needs to be addressed and here we have a President who came into office saying he was going to address it but instead it seems like his actions have resulted in huge steps backward and we are now further away from meaningful action on this issue than we were before he entered office.

Watch anyone who demands that "certain people" not be given due process in court.

Coming from the left that think this administration should be tarred and feathered and run out of town without due, I find it very......ironic.

Such people always define "certain people" flexibly, to their own advantage over you.

Oh, I agree. Lol

Even for Trump that's a high level of right wing populism !

Our Immigration policy, laughed at all over the world

The world is laughing at the US, but not because of immigration. Strange people don't understand that yet...

"I have no sympathy for these people that are in this administration who know it is wrong what they're doing on so many fronts but they tend to not want to confront this president," Waters said at a Los Angeles rally on Saturday. 

the left been using the same exact rhetoric. I ageee you don’t need a judge. The law already says people are deported. you don’t need to involve liberals judges to start making exceptions or deciding to not enforce the law cause feeeeeelings.

How about giving the visas? If they are legal then they can be tracked, work legally and live a secure life where they can work and study and become Americans. No need to do dodgy stuff, just a 2 month assimilation course and let go and work hard.

No they don't. That's pure rhetoric. No Democrat has said that ever.

They don’t have to say it, their actions over the last 50 years speaks louder than words.

Wow, that's an amazing amount of stuff you just posted that isn't actually based in reality.

Yes, liberals do avoid facts all the time. You look at a tomato see it’s bright red color and the liberal will say, No, it’s an eggplant. Yup, the Unicornverse in all of its perfect splendor.

And the myths about these people continue. From the NY Times:

They underestimate immigrants’ education and overestimate both their poverty rate and their dependence on welfare.

No, it has always been about votes. I find it funny how foreigners try to tell me what’s going on in my country who grew up in a border State, too, too funny.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

This is excatly the reason why the left will never agree to any immigration reform that curbs illegal immigration.

A larger explanation is political. Between 2008 and 2016, Democrats became more and more confident that the country’s growing Latino population gave the party an electoral edge. To win the presidency, Democrats convinced themselves, they didn’t need to reassure white people skeptical of immigration so long as they turned out their Latino base. “The fastest-growing sector of the American electorate stampeded toward the Democrats this November,” **Salondeclared after Obama’s 2008 win. “If that pattern continues, the GOP is doomed to 40 years of wandering in a desert.”**

So all of this boo hooing and grandstanding is very clear as to the true intentions of what the left always wanted, the problem with all this is, they should be honest about it. I don’t hate Dems for what they really want, I get it, it’s vital to their very political survival, but what I hate is the boldface lie that they are so concerned about these kids and illegal immigrants, if they really cared, they would care about the thousands of Americans that are locked up in the same situation and how

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/350217-americans-support-a-border-wall-more-than-the-media-wants-to-believe

“A majority of likely voters think illegal immigrant parents are more to blame for the latest immigration crisis than the Trump administration, according to a Rasmussen poll released Thursday.

When migrant families are caught illegally crossing the southwest border and subsequently separated for criminal prosecution, 54 percent of American voters say the adults are to blame for breaking the law.

Only 35 percent believe the government is at fault for enforcing the law, while 11 percent are unsure of who is”.

losing political issue.

losing political issue.

Then why did Trump flip-flop on it? If his policy was correct, it was a winning issue meaning he should have pushed it even harder. Why do you think he is so weak that he couldn't push a winning issue?

How much do you imagine 500 judges cost per year? 50 million dollars?

Also don’t you think there are other immigrants who needs judges other than just people illegally crossing the border?

There were only a little over 2000 kids to begin with and 21% have been reunited so that around 1500.

If you can rationalize Trump signing his own name on large framed photos of murder victims, you'll accept any amount of direness from this creepy con man.

Returning illegal entrants straight back used to happen all the time, especially with Mexicans, to whom you could simply show the door. Trump, though, wants to prosecute all illegal entrants. You can have one or the other, but not both. As usual, Trump is either being too clever for his own good or knoweth not of what he speaks.

The only people who should be granted time in front of a judge are those who follow the proper procedures for asylum. Enough of this "there are no borders" nonsense that nobody thinks about any other country than the US.

Simple question. The front door of your home. Do you consider this a border of sorts to your home? You expect people you don't know to knock first, wait for an answer before entering, the leave and try again later if no answer? Or you think anyone is allowed in, no rules needed to be followed?

Trump, though, wants to prosecute all illegal entrants.

He should prosecute ILLEGAL immigrants

You can have one or the other, but not both. As usual, Trump is either being too clever for his own good or knoweth not of what he speaks.

You can have legal immigrants, you can have both, no one said, you can’t.

The USA is a nation of laws.

People entering the USA illegally are provided due process, which is a right for everyone.

Offering voluntary deportations without any processing would make sense, but it is up to the person being charged to decide. If I'd just spent $6000 to a "coyote" to help me cross the border illegally, got caught, I'd want due process for the tiny chance that my situation would meet the minimal standards for asylum.

Yes, it would be easier, but it wouldn't be proper under the American justice system. President Trump doesn't have the power to disable this part of the constitution.

Reminds me, time to pay my annual ACLU gift.

Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86 (1903).  A young Japanese girl -- age 16 -- was deported because she had no one here and would be a "Ward of the State." Rather then make her "our" burden, she was sent back to Japan.

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the deportation and even ruled that the courts have no say-so in the matter. As long as the deportee was fairly tried by the authorities, the immigrants had no right to appeal.

The law is on Pres. Trump's side on this one unless there has been another case that has overturned it.

For those who may have made it into the interior of the country and lived for a few months/years, then give them due process and a hearing.  But for those right at the border or who are caught not far and in the process and have not established themselves in the USA, send them back to wherever they come from.

“What President Trump has suggested here is both illegal and unconstitutional," said Omar Jadwat, director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project. "Any official who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and laws should disavow it unequivocally."

Sounds pretty cut and dry. What do the “law and order” people think?

When the Prez floats an idea, that isn't grounds for impeachment. Heck, even if he tries to make an exec order, that isn't grounds for impeachment. Lying under oath is, but he will claim executive privilege, just like Obama, Nixon, and Clinton did.

If President Trump goes down, it will be for campaign finance or something like that. Democrats will need to be the majority in both houses to make it happen.

Fox News’ coverage of the tweet leaves out the whole illegal part:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/24/trump-wants-these-people-who-invade-our-country-sent-right-back.html

No matter what we think of President Trump, I believe that it is perfectly reasonable for him to insist that anyone who wants to enter his country does so legally. Almost every country does that. Otherwise you'd have chaos.

No matter what we think of President Trump, I believe that it is perfectly reasonable for him to insist that anyone who wants to enter his country does so legally. Almost every country does that. Otherwise you'd have chaos.

Seems perfectably reasonalbe, rational and logical to me.

It's always been about Legal and Illegal. Some folks try to blur the lines. As I've said before, when you enable people to illegally stay in the US, you're also enabling the governments of the country they are originally from to not take responsibility for their actions and never become better so their people don't want to leave. If people have to stay where their from, they'll be more motivated to make things better for themselves when they finally say, "enough is enough, we want something better."

It's always been, "I'll go to this country because it's better than my country" instead of, "Why is my country not as good as that country. I should do something to help make it better."

Concerned Citizen: No matter what we think of President Trump, I believe that it is perfectly reasonable for him to insist that anyone who wants to enter his country does so legally. Almost every country does that. Otherwise you'd have chaos.

Well everyone wants that.

Its just an emotional issue. Trump and his supporters intentionally targeted children, hoping that images of their suffering would get them better concessions in the immigration debate. People stood up to that, and the response from Trump and his fans was that we support illegal immigration with open borders and endless free entitlements with drivers licenses and voting rights.

The question is how we can convince Trump fans that the desire to protect children from predators doesn’t mean we support illegal immigrants raping and murdering everywhere. They somehow have the two things linked in their minds.

Its just an emotional issue. Trump and his supporters intentionally targeted children, hoping that images of their suffering would get them better concessions in the immigration debate.

The same goes for the Democrats.

People stood up to that, and the response from Trump and his fans was that we support illegal immigration with open borders and endless free entitlements with drivers licenses and voting rights.

And yet when Republicans try to enforce these laws or come up with legislation to stop it, the Dems say, No way. I don’t know about you, but but when you claim to be for something and then in reality you go against, but claim to be for it, does make people wonder.

The question is how we can convince Trump fans that the desire to protect children from predators doesn’t mean we support illegal immigrants raping and murdering everywhere. They somehow have the two things linked in their minds.

Ok, so then Do you agree the Democrats should put it into permanently and finally see this border into and chain migration, end the visa lottery program, end catch and release, end sanctuary cities and help fund the wall. I mean, if they really care and want to prove and shut the conservatives up and put their money where their mouths are.

Crazy: "Clear violation of his oath of office to enforce the laws"

It's the Democrats and some Republicans in Congress and some Democratic governors, notably Jerry Brown, and sanctuary city mayors who have been refusing to enforce the law.

"Grounds for impeachment."

Have to have an actual crime committed before you can impeach a POTUS. Maxine Waters and other Democrats have been trying to get Trump impeached since he took office, lol

Oh my...

Steve Hilton: How humane is an open border policy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISEX8eMhr8I

Democrats should put it into permanently and finally see this border into and chain migration, end the visa lottery program, end catch and release, end sanctuary cities and help fund the wall.

Yeah, but if you had read anything about the bipartisan bills you’d know that those things are covered either directly or indirectly, except for sanctuary cities which isn’t a federal issue. The fact is you won’t research on your own and you obviously won’t believe anything I tell you, so you keep yourself in the dark on the issue and default to spreading anger and making wild assumptions about moderates and the left.

It should come as no surprise the the guy who is the angriest is also the guy who is the most ignorant.

Due process for aliens who illegally cross into your country? What section in the U.S. Constitution guarantees due process for aliens who illegally cross our borders?

It's amazing how much protection the left wing gives to criminals, murderers, gangs, terror groups, tyrants, fanatatics and slavers.

We aren’t going to let you hurt the innocent ones, especially children. Call that support for murderers all you want.

It’s pretty much a cult at this point.

We live in a world of really nice and exclusive country clubs with all of the amenities versus the really crummy type of country clubs. Of course if people are being abused or getting killed in the crummy ones, they're going to storm the gates or walls of the really nice country club and try to get in.

The trick is how to make their own country clubs nice enough so they don't want to go through all of the trouble and danger of illegally entering the exclusive (Gold Member) country club.

It's only human to want a better life, especially if the country you're fleeing a country where the good guys and the bad guys are both doing bad things. Look no further than Mexico and the corruption which exists there between law enforcement and the cartels. You can't tell the good guys from the bad guys.

Bass: You guys pretty much dead when you didn’t seal the border

Both bipartisan bills included sealing the border.

President Trump did what he always does: give the democrats what they SAY they want, which reveals what they really want when they criticize his actions.

His EO stopped the separation of criminal adults from "the children" they bring to shield them, without changing the criminal charges against those adults. democrats criticism of his EO reveals their real agenda: to excuse the adults' criminal actions.

Now, families are no longer separated, but the illegal aliens don't get to stay, and are reunited with "the children" when they are all sent back to our southern border and told to pound sand.

A brilliant move on the part of our President.

*Just enforce the laws as written***. This would mean capture those caught crossing illegally, put them in some form of detention (without separating families), have them appear in court, confirm there is no genuine need for them to stay and then deport them back to the country of origin.-No to costly! **Come to Japan illegally and get caught you get sent home. On your own or as family. Come in illegally. YOU ARE GONE! Look what has become of Italy and the migrant problems there and other counties in Europe. When they freely opened the borders. Or did not open borders and just arrived. Big problems and economic strain and crime spikes.

This makes sense to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXT7zVAlqqw

Build that wall.

*3 million refugees** have been resettled in the U.S. since Congress passed the Refugee Act of 1980*

With the promise of the Democrats to seal all loopholes of the border if she were to grant amnesty to the 3 million and Democrats lied they never kept that promise and here we are. As long as you don’t close the border as long as you don’t end chain migration, as long as you don’t end the visa lottery program, end sanctuary cities, catch and release, you will never get this problem under control and the compromise Bill doesn’t include any of that, none of it until the president is right to shove this issue way down until after the midterms, once Republicans pick up more seats in the Senate then you don’t have to worry about needing Democrats to pass a comprehensive immigration bill that will stop this madness.

@zichi,

3 million refugees have been resettled in the U.S. since Congress passed the Refugee Act of 1980.

Yeah a crucial mistake to get this law on the books.

Passed unanimously by the -(democratic)- Senate in late 1979 and signed into law by your (D) President Jimmy Carter in early 1980,

President Jimmy Carter. Gallop pole 2007 The worst President of the United States ever! 1% rating.

Fact-The main objectives of the act were to create a new definition of refugee based on the one created at the UN Convention and Protocol on the Status of Refugees, raise the limitation from 17,400 to 50,000 refugees admitted each fiscal year. That is a lot of new democratic voters for the base. Build the wall #MAGA!

If you want to solve the problem, start at the source- companies and businesses that hire illegals. Impose draconian penalties on such employers and they will be forced to hire legal immigrants and citizens. This will remove the incentive for most of those who are crashing the border. Let's be honest, genuine asylum seekers are very few in number compared to economic migrants. This might make the price of orgasmic lettuce go up by a dime, but I'm sure most people can afford it.

At the same time, get ID on those who try to cross illegally. Fingerprints, biometric data, dna, whatever. Then send them home. Keep a database. Those who try again do hard time in federal prison, breaking rocks and digging coal.

From Maureen Dowd's column in the NYT this morning:

As a former top Trump administration official recently told me, “Donald Trump is the meanest man I’ve ever met.”

Do we need further proof?

President Trump is following the law. Don't like the law? Change the law. Except the democrats really don't want to change a thing except to give them non-negotiable open borders. The upcoming mid-term elections will prove It's never a good political idea to take the side of illegal invaders over Americans.

Fortunately, the mask is finally off the open borders E.U.-style democrats. President Trump called their bluff with his E.O. and predictably, they are squealing. They now realize the illegal immigration voter/open borders charade has been finally outted. The democrats will have no choice but to go back to scouring cemeteries for voters.

and the compromise Bill doesn’t include any of that

Oh do tell us what the compromise bills have in them. I’m sure you’ve read and researched them before saying how you or anyone else should never vote for them.

And Sanctuary Cities will never be on the list. The cities choose, not the federal government.

You keep making this list of demands with no power to do anything without compromise. So you get nothing and you deserve it.

Like I said, things will get worse. Trump is going to lie constantly about immigration and get every person to the right of the left in an extreme state of fear of immigrants. You guys will be so afraid that you'll be frothing at the mouth to get to those polls and vote.

I guarantee it.

Come on up to Canada, get away from the US of Mordor. We just had a successful Pride weekend, are going to argue over free Pharmacare next election to match our healthcare, and our craft beer is better ;)

Leave the guns and hillbillies behind though, thanks

Now that option would have made a lot of sense for the French jogger in Canada who accidentally strayed across the border and ended up with a week's incarceration. Just spin them around and point them back in the correct direction.

Crazy: "As a former top Trump administration official recently told me, “Donald Trump is the meanest man I’ve ever met.” Do we need further proof?"

Yeah - what's the name of this former Trump administration official? Oh, he/she is nameless! Hearsay, anyone?

The Democrats want blanket amnesty, 

Reagan did that 3M free greencards.

Come on up to Canada, get away from the US of Mordor. We just had a successful Pride weekend, are going to argue over free Pharmacare next election to match our healthcare, and our craft beer is better ;)

What? Canada has craft beer? Come on....

Leave the guns and hillbillies behind though, thanks

please take back the entire SNL group please as well

Canada has craft beer?

yes

deport them all!

due process is in the constitution. Rip that up and the journey to the dark side is complete

Good. Save the money & time.

Yet Trump and majority of white Americans wouldnt be in their position of privilege and vastly unearned wealth had it not been for their forebears 'invading' the US and other parts of the world to slaughter innocent people and exploit their wealth and resources.

Goreme, that's just the way of the world. Nobody is innocent, everybody has blood on their hands. Trying to right the wrongs of the present by moaning about the past is a losing proposition.