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“Frankly I've never seen that before, that a president’s power extends to wherever his politics are,"

As anti-democracy as it gets. Trump and ilk see Xi as leader for life, Putin becoming supreme leader, Kim, put in place by Stalin, as another supreme leader, and want the same thing for Trump.

The globe's putative elite are getting richer and more powerful while Trump's in office. They'll continue to back him. Trump's family's getting richer while he's in office. With Trump it's all about getting richer. He's never had it so good, even better than inheriting more than US$400,000,000. (400 MILLION) from his corrupt daddy.

The globe's alt right's pushing for an end to democracy, trying to set up a return to the era of monarchies when strong men (aka big brother) had even greater power.

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Dershowitz is a Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton as well as a Constitutional legal expert so his argument is very damaging to the Democrats.

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Dershowitz is a Democrat 

Dershowitz is a career swampman for sale to the highest bidder. Like Trump and ilk he's hyper me-centric, looking out for what's best for him. Like Trump and ilk he cares jack zero for the systems the republic's based on, only what he can take from it. And given his connections to Barr, Trump and the late Jeffrey Epstein, I have to wonder what he's getting for protecting Trump's (and ilk around the globe, including so-called royals) interests.

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Talk about a crazy position.

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I don’t buy that the president can use the power of his office to assist his campaign. This is exactly what the Obama Administration did to help get Obama’s hand picked successor Hillary Clinton elected. Unfortunately for Hillary, the Obama FBI failed because Rep Nunes uncovered the fact that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Putin dossier to spy on the Trump campaign. And alas the dossier was bunk.

The problem for Schiff and the Dems, Trump has a legitimate reason for investigating the Biden’s activities in the Ukraine. It is a nation rife with corruption and VP Biden flew his son over on a government paid airplane to make deals with a company under investigation and led by a known corrupt oligarch. VP Biden publicly stated that he interfered in the investigation and threatened to withhold Congressionally approved aid. Furthermore VP Biden flew his son on an taxpayer paid aircraft to China where he closed a huge business deal that benefit Hunter. All the while VP Biden is the designated “point man” for these two countries. VP Biden is in charge of American policy in some countries and his son makes millions in profits at the same time. If that isn’t corruption- it certainly should be.

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The problem for Schiff and the Dems, Trump has a legitimate reason for investigating the Biden’s activities in the Ukraine. It is a nation rife with corruption and VP Biden flew his son over on a government paid airplane to make deals with a company under investigation and led by a known corrupt oligarch. VP Biden publicly stated that he interfered in the investigation and threatened to withhold Congressionally approved aid. Furthermore VP Biden flew his son on an taxpayer paid aircraft to China where he closed a huge business deal that benefit Hunter. All the while VP Biden is the designated “point man” for these two countries. VP Biden is in charge of American policy in some countries and his son makes millions in profits at the same time. If that isn’t corruption- it certainly should be.

None of this happened. But thank you for condensing the Faux News talking points into one paragraph for me.

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The more the Right talks about Hunter Biden the more they expose that fact this is all politically motivated. They might want to throw in some non-Biden investigations to at least appear it's not all they care about.

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So by his own admission, Trump rigging the election is alright since it is in the "best interests of the U.S." for him to be elected President? So Trump could declare martial law, force people at gunpoint to re-elect him and it would be perfectly legal because they're all "in the best interests" for him to be re-elected. What baloney!

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I've never heard a more insane justification for presidential corruption.

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None of this happened. But thank you for condensing the Faux News talking points into one paragraph for me.

That’s a blanket statement and devoid of any content. Was VP Biden not the point man in Ukraine? Did Hunter Biden not get a job on the board of a corrupt oil and gas company run by a corrupt oligarch? Hunter Biden admitted on national tv that his relationship to the VP was the reason he got a job that paid him a million dollars a year for three years. Did VP Biden not state on video that he threatened a quid pro quo with Congressionally approved aid in exchange for a Ukrainian government action?

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The election feared, the voter feared democrats and the swamps of Washington CLAIMS" throwing dirt on a political opponent is a crime.......... It should not be allowed in USA.... cry .......

Now look. What Nancy (not Nonnie) and her team is doing? Throwing dirt on the democratic presidential candidate. By abusing the power of House majority, and asking the democrats in the senate to abuse the power by throwing the dirt on the republican presidential candidate.

Tell me here who are the people should be impeached. in house and the senate? Even a high school student can answer it..

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Even a high school student can answer it..

Are you talking about high school students in Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia or another state led by a despot? Most likely they wouldn't understand the concept of 'balance and separation of powers'. They've only known dictatorships. So maybe you're right: they'd say all power to big brother! And his ilk.

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So maybe you're right: they'd say all power to big brother! And his ilk.

Yes right! All he needs is a pen and phone.

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For his part, Dershowitz, a retired college professor, complained on Twitter that his argument was being “willfully distorted” by media outlets.

The old right wing nutter defense, you saw me saying something on live TV, but I did not say it......

Time for Dershowitz to hang up whatever he is or is not wearing...

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Dershowitz is a Democrat. His words carry extra weight when supporting exoneration.

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Alan Dershowitz delivered a stunning defense of President Donald Trump in the Senate that would essentially make it impossible to impeach a president for anything he might do to boost his reelection prospects. 

Well this is not surprising....for Trump and his minions it also OK to;

Grab women by the ____

Discriminate against people of color in housing...

Run a sham University....

Cheat on your spouse with a porn star...

Say some white supremacists are very fine people...

Insult Gold Star families...

And the list goes on....and on.....and on....

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Dershowitz is a Democrat. His words carry extra weight when supporting exoneration.

He's a lawyer paid by Trump and his words are crazy. You don't try to defend them because you don't want to sound completely crazy yourself.

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How easily liberals here forget all we have found about what Obama did as President to hurt candidate trump and his family. He even misused government resources and intelligence agencies and helped the anti trump candidate in campaigning.

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Dershowitz is a Democrat. 

ROFL, Dershowitz is turning into a senile old bart just like the man he is defending donny .

His words carry extra weight when supporting exoneration.

Like the nutters gave extra weight to what Mueller said or what Bolton is trying to say.....

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So, let's get this straight. As long as it's in the "national interest" - any President can do anything he or she likes.

Anything.

Let that sink in for a bit, Trump disciples.

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Dershowitz is a Democrat. His words carry extra weight when supporting exoneration.

Using your argument, Bolton is a life-long Republican, an icon of conservatives, beloved by the far-right...so his assertion that Trump was directing the whole quid-pro-quo shakedown should carry A LOT OF EXTRA WEIGHT....right?

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...his argument is very damaging to the Democrats.

No, it's only very damaging to the disingenuous Dirtshowitz's already dubious reputation as an "expert", and to the credibility of the hypocrites and credulous cretins who extol the phony excuses of this career huckster.

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Dershowitz is a career swampman for sale to the highest bidder.

As are pretty much all lawyers, but he definitely is and has always bleed liberal and a proud Democrat and Hillary supporter...still!

Like Trump and ilk he's hyper me-centric, looking out for what's best for him.

So are the House Democrats.

Like Trump and ilk he cares jack zero for the systems the republic's based on, only what he can take from it.

As if the Democrats cared one iota about the political process, but in 1998 they cared then when it was there President that was impeached.

And given his connections to Barr, Trump and the late Jeffrey Epstein, I have to wonder what he's getting for protecting Trump's (and ilk around the globe, including so-called royals) interests

But you’re not curious about Clinton, Epstein, Romney and Bolton or Schiff and the whistleblower, the same whistleblower that contacted Schiff’s office (documented) and where Schiff said, he had No knowledge of the whistleblowers identity? Hmmm...

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@bas4fAs are pretty much all lawyers

So are the House Democrats.

As if the Democrats

Clinton, Epstein, Romney and Bolton 

Instead of coming out of the far right closet and owning up to Trump screwing up, it's once again the other-guys-do-bad-things-too defense. SMH

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Using your argument, Bolton is a life-long Republican, an icon of conservatives, beloved by the far-right...so his assertion that Trump was directing the whole quid-pro-quo shakedown should carry A LOT OF EXTRA WEIGHT....right?

Trump tweeted trash about Bolton yesterday. That should be enough to satisfy Trump supporters.

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Instead of coming out of the far right closet and owning up to Trump screwing up,

I already stated many times I felt the call was inappropriate, but it never rose to the level of impeachment.

it's once again the other-guys-do-bad-things-too defense. SMH

Ahhh, so basically you’re saying conservatives should shut up and take a verbal scorning by liberals and not bring up wrongdoings by Democrats or liberals.

Sorry. It doesn’t work like that in the real world.

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As are pretty much all lawyers, but he definitely is and has always bleed liberal and a proud Democrat and Hillary supporter...still!

Another day and another case of jumping right into a thread screaming "liberals... liberals, everywhere" or some other tired version of it.

Before yet another topic gets disabled, perhaps it would be interesting to get on record now if Trump supporters agree with his defence? That a PotUS can do anything they like under the guise of "national interest"?

And if AD's defence fails Trump, will Trump supporters then blame it all on him because he's a Democrat and lawyers are unable to be impartial?

For future reference, natch.

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Another day and another case of jumping right into a thread screaming "liberals... liberals, everywhere" or some other tired version of it.

You guys are Trump, Trump, Trump, Guilty, Guilty, Guilty, Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, I’m telling you this, we are ALL tired of this, put a fork in it already, so happy when this wraps up!

Before yet another topic gets disabled, perhaps it would be interesting to get on record now if Trump supporters agree with his defence?

Yup!

That a PotUS can do anything they like under the guise of "national interest"?

Yes, if the President Republican or Democrat deem it so. For example: Obama thought and inquired as did Hillary and McCain information on Trump, that was their right and from the beginning they tried to sabotage his campaign in the guise of National Interest by gathering up info from a foreigner to come up with a fake dossier unverified and salacious as Comey said, which he also thought was justified, no difference here. Trump had every right to get intel on his rival, he’s trying to win, I would fault him if he didn’t.

And if AD's defence fails Trump,

Slim chance.

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*That a PotUS can do anything they like under the guise of "national interest"?*

Yes, if the President Republican or Democrat deem it so. 

Right, so Trump could, in your eyes, legitimately assassinate every opposing politician, and that would be good and acceptable because it would help his re-election?

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So Dershowitz says Trump can do anything he likes to win re-election putting the executive branch above the law?

Giuliani had a bigger part in the Ukraine episode than he admits to.

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Gotta hand it to Pelosi and Schiff for forcing Trump into this absurd position. Remember when he was denying everything?

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But you’re not curious about Clinton, Epstein, Romney and Bolton 

Why do you hate Bolton now? You love him and want him to be President.

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Alan Dershowitz delivered a stunning defense of President Donald Trump in the Senate that would essentially make it impossible to impeach a president for anything he might do to boost his reelection prospects.

Isn't it strangely coincidental that in Russia, Putin begin's his goal of becoming emperor for life by instituting changes in the Russian constitution...

During a speech in Moscow on Wednesday, Putin, 67, a former KGB officer, proposed changes to the Russian Constitution that would transfer power from the presidency to elsewhere in government, weakening his successor and apparently allowing him to step into a newly carved role outside the presidency once his fourth term ends in 2024.

And soon after, we have one of Trump's lawyers saying that a President could commit any corrupt act or crime to boost his reelection - and they can't be thrown out.

Seems like there's a little more Trump-Putin collusion going on beyond what we already know...

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Chief justice Roberts is a scam judge appointed by the deep state that is so biased against Trump that he should not even sit as traffic judge in a speed trap town. He does not belong on the supreme court AT ALL. Yet he's "judging" an "impeachment" while knowing damn well which witnesses should be called, and blocking them. He himself is part and parcel of this "impeachment" and is neck deep in the corruption that led up to it. God only knows how we got here.

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You guys are Trump, Trump, Trump, Guilty, Guilty, Guilty, Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine,

This story is about Trump's impeachment trial. What do you want people to be posting about, baseball?

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Dershowitz is a Democrat. 

So what?

Bolton is a Republican.

Let's stick to the pertinent facts. Dershowitz is a lawyer who helps scummy fat cats get off the hook.

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You guys are Trump, Trump, Trump, Guilty, Guilty, Guilty, Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, I’m telling you this, we are ALL tired of this, put a fork in it already, so happy when this wraps up!

Of course you're tired of it, but it's not really about us saying he's guilty, it's about allowing the United States being allowed to have witnesses, so a fair trial can be done. The unbelievable arguments of Dershowitz, which essentially says this president can do anything he wants to, because the office deems it so...how ridiculous a defense! Other GOP/Trump supporters like Ted Cruz are saying who cares, even if he's guilty, he isn't! This is dictatorial country ideas, not the United States of America.

No one wants a guilty Trump without witness' testimony, which is normal for any court case, yet, Trump's team want innocence without a trial. If you believe this is fine, you are not advancing the ideal of the democracy of the United States. You are promoting fascism for a dictatorship. It would be tantamount to treason, years ago. Just be fair, listen, have an open mind and put your country above Trump. Not having witness' allowed is unpatriotic to the American constitution and flag.

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Let this be a lesson for you all.

If you drink too much of that Trump koolaid, you'll look, sound and lie just like Alan Dershowitz.

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what a clown show by the Dems. All presidents have had scandals and I’m not convinced this should even be considered a scandal anyway. Bombing a wedding party, IRS targeting your enemies, and so on, All ok.

Whada friggen joke the left is. They will lose bad in 2020.

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The intend of Giuliani  and his team was to dig for dirt on the Bidens under orders from Trump.

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Timeline: Trump, Giuliani, Biden, and Ukrainegate (updated)

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

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Those Rep. folks are just like their boss.

See it the way you want it, interpret everything the way you like it, do whatever it takes to get it.

And of course all the time blaming others, talking about irrelevant stuff.

This is deDonnies impeachment, not the one of Biden, Clinton, Obama or whoever!

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All done. Acquittal tomorrow. Dems don’t want to proceed, they just want to be able to cry and say they were robbed of Justice or some other nonsense.

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Can we please stay in the world realm of reality and not visit far fetched hypotheticals?

So that's a yes, you think Trump should be able to murder political opponents. Well, he did boast about how he could shoot people on 5th Avenue and his cultists would still love him.

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Anyone pleeease! Post a link to this WAR between Russia and Ukraine that the Dems keep crying in front of the cameras about

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I can see some major meltdowns coming after the acquittal. ROFL.

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Lamar Alexander: nope.

Collins and Romney will screw us. We knew this.

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Sneezy - Right, so Trump could, in your eyes, legitimately assassinate every opposing politician, and that would be good and acceptable because it would help his re-election?

And yet Democrats still can't understand why they are considered to so unbelievable by half the country.

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All done. Acquittal tomorrow. Dems don’t want to proceed, they just want to be able to cry and say they were robbed of Justice or some other nonsense.

The Dems aren’t being robbed of justice, our country is. Tomorrow, we get to officially see how many republican senators support Donny corrupting the office of president.

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Anyone pleeease! Post a link to this WAR between Russia and Ukraine that the Dems keep crying in front of the cameras about

Sure, how about one from a Fox News host....

On his Monday night show, Fox News host Tucker Carlson made a comment that was shocking even by his standards. He said he’s rooting for Russia to prevail in its armed conflict with Ukraine’s fledging democracy — a conflict that began when Russia illegally invaded its neighbor years ago and continues to this day.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/26/20983778/tucker-carlson-rooting-for-russia-ukraine-invasion-america-first

I assume as a Trumper you're rooting for Russia also?

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The Dems aren’t being robbed of justice, our country is.

Democrats and most liberals think that, I’m sure.

Tomorrow, we get to officially see how many republican senators support Donny corrupting the office of president.

I felt the same way in 1998, much empathy.

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But, you’re playing the semantics game. You want an article that says “war” instead of “conflict.”

Wrong! I didn’t say war, the Dem Reps did. So no links eh?

Wait, we have a Council on Foreign Relations website.

And the first headline.......”Russia, Ukraine Finalize Gas Deals

Wooo, must have been some hard fought battles in those trade deals.

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Chip Star - BUT liberals! Clinton! Uranium One! Pedos in pizza parlors! Dems!

None of which were listed on the two feeble charges House Democrats made against the Republican who was responsible for keeping ol' Hillary out of the WH. Again.

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All done. Acquittal tomorrow.

Doubtful - but let's assume so.

Then the question becomes when will the Repubs learn the lesson of Watergate - its never about the crime, its about the cover-up...

If they ignore the elephant in the room, that great conservative icon Bolton, and collude with the WH in shutting down the trial, then the Repub party is all but dead...the public can see a cover-up in plain sight. Just ask Nixon...

Than what happens?

Trump is already toast - burnt beyond recognition - but expect more heat once Bolton's book is released and he hits the talk show circuit. Then who's book is next; Kelly, Tillertson, McMaster, Cohn? And which video will Parnas drop next? If Trump hangs on to Nov, even Hunter Biden could beat him...

Moscow/Midnight/Mumbler Mitch will be forever tarred with this travesty of justice - and this Fall his Marine fighter pilot opponent will send a Sidewinder right up his backside..

Both the WH and Senate will be back in Dem hands, and Repubs will be picking up the pieces after the massacre.

And the leader trying to being them back won't be Trump, I expect it will be Nikki Haley...

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Awfully strange definition for the word “acquittal”

Tomorrow, we get to officially see how many republican senators support Donny corrupting the office of president.

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And yes, Dems did say Ukraine is in a “hot war” with Russia. I just heard them say it live.

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zichi - The intend of Giuliani and his team was to dig for dirt on the Bidens under orders from Trump.

This entire impeachment has been a three year fantasy quest by Democrats to undo the 2016 election. Remember the HIllary! And it looks as if another fruitless, biased, and politically-motivated witchhunt, has failed.

I expect Democrats to blame everyone but themselves for their own incompetence.

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“They characterized my argument as if I had said that if a president believes that his re-election was in the national interest, he can do anything,” Mr Dershowitz tweeted. “I said nothing like that, as anyone who actually heard what I said can attest.”

The word weasel is right: he actually said Trump could ask a foreign government for a quid pro quo to help him win a second term (in, what Donny "believed", were the "interests" of the country) or the congressionally mandated aid would be frozen (a crime), and so Trump's "perfect" phone call would not rise to the level of an impeachable offense (especially since the public has not yet been allowed to see Trump's transcript and all the other dirt in the secret server).

Even if the Republican "Fuehrer" escapes justice, the history of the Trump presidency will forever reek of the smell of smokin' guns and the traitorous Republicans who perverted justice will forever live in infamy.

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Romney wants to hear from Bolton. Fine, call him up and ask him out to dinner. All Romney’s Dem buddies can join too. Have it at Trump Hotel so you can claim muh emomuhlements at the next Impeachmas.

or better yet, Bolton goes on CNN and tells us what he knows. No need to extend this trial 6 more months. Schiff said a week because he self serving only considered the time for his witnesses.

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Romney wants to hear from Bolton.

So do 75% of the American people...

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-trial-witnesses-poll-1a23098b-df75-4731-b6e3-0c5978f84d7b.html

Fine, call him up and ask him out to dinner. All Romney’s Dem buddies can join too. Have it at Trump Hotel so you can claim muh emomuhlements at the next Impeachmas.

Good idea! If they have it at a Trump Hotel, they may run into Rudy, Parnas and Furman filming videos of them and Trump yucking it up. They'll also no doubt hear a lot of Russian being spoken. Lastly, they can be served by some illegal immigrants - Trump loves employing them...

or better yet, Bolton goes on CNN and tells us what he knows.

What? After being a Fox News contributor for 11 years - and the network's go-to guy when you want the conservative view? Bolton is a conservative icon, isn't he?

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I hope Trump has learned his lesson from this!!!

when you say you won’t hire a guy with a ridiculous mustache, don’t do it.

valuable lesson.

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Trump had every right to get intel on his rival, he’s trying to win, I would fault him if he didn’t.

So why are you so obsessed with getting the whistleblower exposed and put on the stand? It seems you agree with the facts of the case that this person brought to our attention, and you don't think there's anything wrong with withholding military aid in exchange for dirt on Joe Biden. So why all the barking about the whistleblower and badmouthing the witnesses?

Trumpsters know their Lord and Savior is guilty and deserves to get the boot. They just can't handle the humiliation of having invested themselves heart and soul in this pathetic con man.

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Then the question becomes when will the Repubs learn the lesson of Watergate - its never about the crime, its about the cover-up...

Dunno, Democrats didn’t learn from Benghazi....

If they ignore the elephant in the room, that great conservative icon Bolton, and collude with the WH in shutting down the trial, then the Repub party is all but dead...the public can see a cover-up in plain sight. Just ask Nixon...

...or ask Hillary, but as she said, what difference does it make.

Than what happens?

Trump is already toast

Quite a bit of wins this week, hardly.

but expect more heat once Bolton's book is released and he hits the talk show circuit. Then who's book is next; Kelly, Tillertson, McMaster, Cohn? And which video will Parnas drop next? If Trump hangs on to Nov, even Hunter Biden could beat him...

In other words, Democrats will try a 6th approach to attempt to stop him.

Moscow/Midnight/Mumbler Mitch will be forever tarred with this travesty of justice - and this Fall his Marine fighter pilot opponent will send a Sidewinder right up his backside..

Uhhh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that one. Lol

Both the WH and Senate will be back in Dem hands, and Repubs will be picking up the pieces after the massacre. 

Just like Dems will win the WH in 2016...ok. ROFL!

.

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So do 75% of the American people

And the other half want Biden.

What? After being a Fox News contributor for 11 years - and the network's go-to guy when you want the conservative view? Bolton is a conservative icon, isn't he?

CNN loves picking up turncoats and backstabbers, but they need the ratings as well, I understand being second place and Ortern third is no fun.

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My question is not about a “whistleblower” as I have no independent information on his identity. My question is about the actions of known Obama partisans within the NSC and House staff and how they are reported to have conspired before impeachment proceedings had even begun.

and are you aware and how do you respond to reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings

media goes crazy and says this “outs” the whistleblower. So the media does know who the whistleblower is? How?

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CNN loves picking up turncoats and backstabbers

Was it hard realising you wasted money on your Valentine's card to Bolton? Remember when you wanted Bolton to be President, just weeks ago?

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Can ask questions about anyone even irrelevant or unknown people except these 2 specific guys.....why?

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So do 75% of the American people

And the other half want Biden.

Trump U math grad...75% is half of 100%...

I guess the 25% that don't want witnesses must be Trumpers, white supremacists, and porn stars...

What? After being a Fox News contributor for 11 years - and the network's go-to guy when you want the conservative view? Bolton is a conservative icon, isn't he?

CNN loves picking up turncoats and backstabbers, but they need the ratings as well, I understand being second place and Ortern third is no fun.

Thanks - we'll mark you down as saying Bolton is now a turncoat and backstabber - after saying how much you love and respected him just a few months ago...just one more flip-flop...

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I hope Trump has learned his lesson from this!!! 

when you say you won’t hire a guy with a ridiculous mustache, don’t do it.

Some other people Trumpsters used to love before they were purged for going against Donny XIV:

Mattis

McMaster

Kelly

Sessions

Tillerson

Coats

Cohn

Bannon

Priebus

etc.....

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Remember when you wanted Bolton to be President, just weeks ago?

Yeah, but what about liberals?

/s

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I have a much longer list of people liberals used to hate who you now love day to day depending on if you like what they say that day.

but it’s irrelevant to the upcoming acquittal. So what’s gonna drop tonight before the vote? No last gasp Hail Mary on something?

Some other people Trumpsters used to love before they were purged for going against Donny XIV:

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Trump U math grad...75% is half of 100%...

Democrats have never good when it comes to money, math or economics, that’s the reason why they think socialist programs will bring prosperity to America, so who was polled exactly and where and how many minorities how many conservatives versus Independence versus conservatives

I still do, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s another hawk that wants to stay in these perpetual wars.

Opps, looks like that window of calling witnesses is closing.

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Was it hard realising you wasted money on your Valentine's card to Bolton? Remember when you wanted Bolton to be President, just weeks ago?

Tequila? Whiskey? Lol

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On his Monday night show, Fox News host Tucker Carlson made a comment that was shocking even by his standards. He said he’s rooting for Russia to prevail in its armed conflict with Ukraine’s fledging democracy 

No more dog whistling. The alt right have even more support from the global elite; their media allowing talking mouths to say the quiet parts out loud. The pro-authoritarianists are now blatantly attacking democracies.

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Best part of the whole trial was when they tried to do some shenanigans with the very last question. 2020 Dem Klobuchar tried to set it up for schiff and Nadler walked up and stole it.

schiff was yelling Jerry, Jerry, Jerry....as Nadler ruined their carefully crafted but poor executed finale.

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No more dog whistling. The alt right have even more support from the global elite;

Don’t worry, really, it’s ok. The mega über-rich global alt-left will never be Trumpers, breath a sigh of relief.

their media allowing talking mouths to say the quiet parts out loud.

so Trump’s defense team shouldn’t defend him....yeah, that makes sense....

The pro-authoritarianists are now blatantly attacking democracies

This is why the Dems are losing.....again...

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Tequila? Whiskey? Lol

You can drink whatever you like (you usually do) once you've answered my question: do you remember a few short weeks back when you wanted Bolton to be President?

If you can't, I suggest you cut back on the spirits.

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You can drink whatever you like (you usually do) once you've answered my question: do you remember a few short weeks back when you wanted Bolton to be President?

At one point, I wouldn’t have minded, I’m kind of a hawk myself to a certain point, so what’s your point?

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For his part, Dershowitz, a retired college professor, complained on Twitter that his argument was being “willfully distorted” by media outlets.

...and it totally was. And by the demagogues of the Schiff show too. Anyone who actually saw the original presentation knows that.

But alas, we have become used to these lies and distortions, and too many MSM consumers actually believe them.

Schiff blew the whole charade clear out of the water, and that should have been the end of it. As it, they will continue to mud wrestle for some time more. And don´t expect the gas and Ukraine expert Hunter Biden to explain his phantastic income from Burisma... no, that would be "interfering in an election", LOL.

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Schiff blew the whole charade clear out of the water, and that should have been the end of it. As it, they will continue to mud wrestle for some time more. And don´t expect the gas and Ukraine expert Hunter Biden to explain his phantastic income from Burisma... no, that would be "interfering in an election", LOL.

Exactly!

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At one point, I wouldn’t have minded, I’m kind of a hawk myself to a certain point, so what’s your point?

What is it like to constantly backpedal and flip flop on your own views? In 2012 you said you always supported Mitt Romney, and always would. In 2016 you said Clinton was dangerous because she was a hawk. In 2017 you said Michael Cohen was a brilliant and loyal lawyer. You've rambled for months about how much you love Bolton, who you now think is a backstabber?

What's it like to not hold any beliefs, except for "worship Trump"?

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Bassforfunk:

" Schiff blew the whole charade clear out of the water"

that was supposed to be "Dershowitz" of course, but I think it is obvious.

Schiff, of course, is the promoter of the charade, and a blatant liar in his misquotation of Dershowitz' argument.

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CNN loves picking up turncoats and backstabbers, 

That's pretty much half of the Trump administration.

Actually, didn't you once file for CNN?

Whatever, it's a delight to see Trumpists flip-flop and desperately try to defend their master whilst waiting for Fox and co. to tell them when it's alright to slate wardog Bolton.

To quote Orwell:

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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Sneezy:

What's it like to not hold any beliefs, except for "worship Trump"?

What does "worship Trump" mean? Do I worship Trump because I agree with the fundamentals of his political platform and dislike the over-the-top Trump hatred and lies by the swamp media? I disagree with some things he has said and done too, and I have said so.

Is that "worship"?

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I have a much longer list of people liberals used to hate who you now love day to day depending on if you like what they say that day.

Like who? Maybe two conservative icons like Ann Coulter and John Bolton?

Don't like either of them but love to see Trumpers squirm when Ann says he intended to "scam the stupidest people in his base." Wow, she nailed that one...

https://www.newsweek.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-scam-stupidest-base-national-emergency-1333033

Or now that Bolton is saying that Donnie directed the whole QPQ shakedown...

Two conservative icons - who Trumpers loved and adored - are now "tools of the left" and "backstabbers"...

Oh my....

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What does "worship Trump" mean? Do I worship Trump because I agree with the fundamentals of his political platform and dislike the over-the-top Trump hatred and lies by the swamp media? I disagree with some things he has said and done too, and I have said so.

Is that "worship"?

It's when you throw away your dignity backtracking on things you say you've believed all your life, deny you've ever done so when we can all see your post history, and insist that one of the most inept world leaders in Earth's history is actually a genius, always parroting his defenders on discredited news channels and esoteric far-right websites like www.americanpatriotdumbasses.com.

That's what it is.

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