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SuperLib
LOL
Chicanoinjapan
Trump never takes responsibility for anything he says, even if it's been recorded that he's said something inflammatory or controversial.
Trump downplaying white nationalists in New Zealand means that he still thinks that there are fine people on both sides.
Mizu no Oto
Where are good sources of news from the right? Where do you get your news?
Belrick
Unfortunately JT is full of Trump haters, the vast majority of whom have a penchant for hating facts. Trump ain't no saint for sure, but at least he's smart enough to win a presidency first time round. Still achieved more in 2 years than any other POTUS.
Hate away, thumbs down etc, but finger pointing at Trump for every transgression in the world is pathetic!
smithinjapan
pointofview: "Japan Today once again displaying hit pieces on Trump."
Stick with FOX, then. Mind you, you'll still be living in a world of alternative facts.
Belrick: "Unfortunately JT is full of Trump haters"
The world is full of them, actually, and rightly so. Only fools in the US or profiteers and fellow dictators like him -- and then most Don't actually like HIM, just how they can profit of his stupidity.
I know what you guys call "unbiased" news, though.
cdanr
Which article did you read?
The first three quotes in this one, and the reason for the entire article itself are Trump's.
The fourth is the Christchurch shooter's.
It's over halfway through the article before he finally gets to a single quote from Senator Blumenthal.
That's followed by some quotes from the White House defending Trump.
Mizu no Oto
I don't usually take issue whether the news is coming from the left or right. I take issue with its content and sometimes make an argument from that point.
bass4funk
Ahh, the facts liberals hate to see pointed out and thrown in their face? Well, why would they like it, CNN and msnbc would never challenge them or call them on any of the issues....ever. No wonder you don’t see so many conservatives called on these networks.
But it really doesn’t matter what the world thinks, they didn’t elect this President
What? Anyway, the way these young fresh Democrats are going and them embracing openly socialism, I give any of these candidates about a 20% chance they can beat Trump.
PTownsend
A variation on 'there are good guys on both sides'. Once again Trump shows he's unwilling to criticize white supremacists.
sf2k
If you're not ashamed of Trump you should be ashamed of yourself
thepersoniamnow
Well I agree. I don’t think white nationalism is on the rise around the world.
Blattamexiguus
Reap what you sow 101.
"I don't se it."
really?
lincolnman
Like Trump's inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's...
With a lot of help from Putin...
Insert after more and before in "for Russia"...
Especially those he's complicit it in - wonder if the shooter was one of the "good people on both sides..."
PTownsend
Funny that once again a white supremacist slaughtered innocents worshipping peacefully? Here's what the murderous scumbag says about your trump:
Texas A&M Aggie
CrazyJoe
Because the perp is white, Trump just can't bring himself to call it the "T" word:
terrorism
The racist white-supremacist who pulled the trigger and massacred 49 innocent people called himself a Trump-supporter. And that really says it all ... Donald J. Trump spreads his bile & hatred and right-wing extremists take that as being okay to kill heaps of human beings because they aren't white.
Ah_so
It quotes extensively from Trump himself. And while most Trump supporters have a degree of self-hatred, I wouldn't include the narcissist Trump as one of them.
PTownsend
That quote is probably a 'dead horse' only to those Trump supporters who can't criticize white supremacists.
Jimizo
Does anyone else remember Trump retweeting dodgy videos from a known racist group portraying Muslims badly?
Not good behaviour. Not something people should aspire to.
ZENJI
I live in New Zealand. trump has no idea what he is talking about.
trump offers opinions about things that belong to the U S A. NOWHERE ELSE.
we are hurt, we are all crying for ALL OF US.
In New Zealand trump is known as the COWARD COMMANDER. The head of the trump GANGSTER FAMILY.
trump has zero creditability. trump is regarded as a joke and treated as one.
trump just insults everything and everybody.
yamada1043
The current occupant of the White House in Washington, DC is, either naive or quite uninformed. He continues to spread fake news, disinformation and misinformation, and is the main threat to U.S. national security and worldwide wellbeing.
Serrano
Trump never takes responsibility for anything he says, even if it's been recorded that he's said something inflammatory or controversial.
You must have missed his response to the "Grab 'em by the pussy" tape. He admitted he's not a perfect person. No one is.
Amazing how a non American commits a crime outside America and it's still Trump's fault.
1glenn
He banned Muslims from coming to America, and acts like it is no big deal when Muslims are murdered. Welcome to today's GOP.
Serrano
The current occupant of the White House in Washington, DC is, either naive or quite uninformed.
He is neither one.
He continues to spread fake news, disinformation and misinformation,
You're confusing him with the media.
and is the main threat to U.S. national security and worldwide wellbeing.
You're confusing him with the Democrats and the RINOS.
Texas A&M Aggie
That quote is probably a 'dead horse' only to those Trump supporters who can't criticize white supremacists. -- comment
The Hate Trump disciples won't take the time to do a little research to discover the false Charlottesville narrative that is apparently still being spewed my the Media Industrial Complex. It's much more easier for them to simply nod in bovine agreement.
Jonorth
Even if Trump truly doesn't intend to support the far-right extremists, it should encourage some soul-searching to hear so many of them being inspired by him. He doesn't seem to mind that fact to much tho.
Texas A&M Aggie
He banned Muslims from coming to America -- comment
FYI: Muslims from Indonesia, a country that is home to 600 million followers of Islam, are still allowed into our country.
Toasted Heretic
Perhaps the proponents of white nationalism should stop exporting the hatred. Bannon in Europe, amongst others
Terrorism is an ideology that knows no international boundaries.
lincolnman
Dang right - that 32 year old woman who was run over and murdered - it was all her fault. She shouldn't have turned her back on a MAGA-hat wearing patriot that was driving his Challenger 60 mph into a crowd of people. Heck, she could'a jumped out of the way...
So he's a avowed white supremacist who admires Hitler - who according to acquaintances, "filled his time" playing video games and working at a local grocery store. Or in other words, a typical Trump supporter.
This narrative that the MSM pushes, it's all just fake news...
smithinjapan
bass4funk: "Ahh, the facts liberals hate to see pointed out and thrown in their face?"
Alternative facts are not facts, bass. FOX, and you know this first hand, if we are to believe you, is full of nothing but bigots and complete liars -- the last week has more than proven that in particular, especially now that the racist and misogynist Tucker's advertisers are fleeing the sinking ship. It's gotten so bad even the leadership there can't take it anymore, with them calling out Janine Pirroh, or however you spell it. Like I said, though, you guys believe Trump and so will believe ANYTHING.
lincolnman
Then once again, you tell me why 7 of Trump's closest associates met with Russians and lied about it? Why he says he has ZERO business with Russian and his sons say they get all their money from Russia? Why he lied three times about the meeting with Russians at Trump Tower? Come one - tell us why everyone is lying?
Neo Nazis and White Supremacists - "good people, on both sides"... No Democrat said that - I wonder if the KKK are going to change from white to orange sheets....
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/steve-bannon-call-racist-wear-badge-honor/story?id=53656814
lincolnman
FYI: it didn't include the UAE or Turkey either - because Trump has business deals with all three...
National security always comes in second to his business interests...
Serrano
"Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?" was one of the questions he posed to himself. His answer: "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure...."
Wrong. Trump is a symbol of renewed hope for people of all races.
"... As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no."
Not surprisingly he's wrong on that too.
Serrano
The racist white-supremacist who pulled the trigger and massacred 49 innocent people called himself a Trump-supporter. And that really says it all ( Trump is a racist white supremacist )
Yah, that really says it all, lol. Following that logic, CrazyJoe, if he called himself a Joe Biden supporter that would mean Biden must be a racist white supremacist. And I guess he wasn't much of a Trump supporter being as how said "As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no."
Serrano
"Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?" was one of the questions he posed to himself. His answer: "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure.
Actually Trump just made that dude shoot all those people without leaving the country. He used his racist ESP. The bigotry is so strong he can actually control people's thoughts all the way on the other side of the planet.
Jimizo
Trump is the president of the most powerful country in the world. He doesn’t need to use ESP. His example is important.
Are you going to be the first Trump supporter on this thread to offer an opinion on Trump retweeting dodgy videos from a racist group showing Muslims in a bad light?
IloveCoffee
There is no such thing as ''White identity'', if there was England would not have left the EU because of ''European migrants'', and you wouldn't have seen ''Leave the EU, no more Polish Vermin'' posters everywhere in London. Every nation has their own national identity. And what does Trump has to do with this? The guy was from Australia, not America. Do the American media think Australians follow their president? Do they think Trump is the president of White people?
ShavedNuts
The shooter also mentioned PewDiePie, so what?
bass4funk
Not true at all, just because liberals don’t like be challenged doesn’t make you a racist. It’s funny how FNC will ask liberals to come on and debate them and most won’t, some will and I deeply respect those liberals that can make a persuadable argument, but the vast majority do not. But yeah, it’s easier to go on a liberal network, allow the pundits to let you go on a diatribe and bloviate the entire segment and never challenge you. So it’s easier to call FNC, bigot or racist...lol.
And there will be others that will gladly take their place, this is another reason why I love capitalism so much. Their loss, his gain.
What?
https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1105950314308481026?s=20
bass4funk
Not sure, why did Adam Spliff call a Russian...or so he thought that had potential pertinent information on Trump? Not only did he collude, but he got pranked.
No, but they don’t need to since they have more than enough within their rank and file.
nishikat
YES! PROOF:
Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of white supremacy'
(News Source)
Go Trump! Orange Power all the way.
SuperLib
Everyone knows Trump supports white nationalists. And they love him.
starpunk
He's trying to wash the blood clean off his hands. He promotes hatred, he talks hatred, he promotes violence and now he's playing 'Little Miss Innocent'. No dice.
the Biblical book of Proverbs mentions about the jerk who shoots flaming arrows and then says 'I was only joking'. Just like listeners of Rubbish Limberger's hate radio program say it's 'only entertainment'. Is violence, death and hatred entertainment? I don't think so!
Benedict Dotard's sympathy is a lie! He encourages acts like this - he is not to be believed or trusted.
bass4funk
Super, had no idea you know the President personally.
Oh, stop...lol! Despite what the liberal media is trying to push on you, the immigration issue has been a hot issue loooong before Trump ever came into politics, I know it makes for good fodder, but the only person responsible for this outrageous crime is the person that shot up these people, Trump had zero to do with it, more influenced anyone to take this action and the shooter himself said, he saw wha was going on in France and that was the catalyst for him doing what he did. Also, the guy said, in one interview that he hated Trump, so there goes that narrative down the toilet. No one exploits the race card more than liberals and it’s really a low and dirty thing to constantly do.
nishikat
Again....
Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of white supremacy'
(News Source)
He said it, even Hannity confirms
Wolfpack
No. Trump just didn’t take a single event and turn it into a global movement of Hitler-like proportions in the way the press want to make it out to be. That isn’t to say it isn’t an evil ideology- as he has stated. Just as in the aftermath of Charlottesville, the press are intent on taking Trumps words and twisting them to their already preconceived notions about conservatives in general- they are gaslighting is again.
However the current atmosphere of anti-White male hatred from the global Left does risk encouraging more of these lone wolf or localized outbursts from deranged individuals. There is no global White nationalist jihadi’s like there is in the case of Islamic extremism- not yet at least. Saying that there is does serve the Left politically.
nishikat
WRONG
Proof
Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of white supremacy'
(News Source)
Actually, this is what Trump is encouraging:
I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.
(Trump quote)
Trump doesn't want to leave the WH if he is defeated, and he will call on his supporters to go to war to protect Trump's rule.
nishikat
...were Trump said the white supremacists are great people.
kawabegawa198
Like so many other issues, President Trump is correct on this too.
nishikat
Yes, his supporters think white supremacists are good people.
Wolfpack
That’s no proof of anything. It turns out that David Duke supports Rep. Ilhan Omar‘s views about Jews. Does that imply she agrees with him? Proof?
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/7/david-duke-praises-rep-ilhan-omar/
You got proof he said that? He said there were good people on both sides of the statue debate. In no manner has he ever endorsed the racist ideology the Left so much wants to believe that he does.
nishikat
Yes, it is, he is a Trump Worshiper. Proof:
Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of white supremacy'
(News Source)
Yes,
very fine people
(Trump referring to the marchers carrying tiki torches. in Charlottesville)
lincolnman
And for at least the tenth time, Trumpers can offer no plausible explanation for all the lying - except they're trying to hide collusion...
Those all left for the Repubs 60 years ago - they're all MAGA-wearing Trumpers now...
Don't you believe David Duke?
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138358/charlottesville-protests-david-duke-kkk
Wolfpack
And in what context? You are just believing what you want to believe.
Miyam_Musashi
"We are there to support and stand with the people of New Zealand."
Trump himself telephoned New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, offering condolences, prayers and any help the U.S. might be able to provide.
You'd wonder what the American president could possibly say that would appease the unhinged and still give comfort to the Kiwis.
Fortunately, he couldn't care less about appeasing anyone and is focused on the security and well-being of the American people.
America to New Zealand: We are with you and we offer our condolences and prayers.
bass4funk
And What’s the Democrats excuse? Why would they hold a former Grand Wizard dear to their hearts, why aren’t they condemning Omar in the strongest terms? Why do they allow Virginia to keep these racists politicians in office?
Hmmmm, they keep hoping that people believe that. They never left their roots, ever and last week was another testament to that.
The Democrats hero
https://youtu.be/fYzqGICOVVk
commanteer
They actually do. Most Americans think of the world as a bunch of suburbs that rotate around the USA.
Wolfpack
Democrats downplay Islamic extremism/terrorism, anti-Semitism in their party, and promote explicitly race based public policy.
So now what? How about we all promote individual rights over group based grievances that further poison social relations.
Reese
It does not matter what President Trump says or does it will never be enough for the left.
nishikat
Trump people can support a right winger (Milo) who promotes sex with children
When the body count from black mass shooters matches that of white Supremacist evangelical Trump mass shooters please wake me up.
Yes, crazy that Milo is actually saying it is OK to have sex with Children. At least blacks are not listening to Farrakhan and shooting up a bunch of white churches in Alabama and also Farrakhan is not suggesting having sex with children like Milo is. I never listen to Farrakhan or know of any real effect from what he says. But we know this mass NZ shooter was listing to Trump. Proof:
Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of white supremacy'
(News Source)
And we see the real damaging result. Are there any mass shootings from Farrakhan? Also, does Farrakhan promote sex with children like Milo Yiannopoulos does?
And Trump hung out with Russian hookers and got peed on. I could care less. If blacks start mass shooting white churches as a result then it will have my attention.
mukashiyokatta
"Trump downplays white nationalism threat"
He WOULD downplay it -- he is one of its participants!
nishikat
Please be more specific.
Simon Foston
That'll be bad for his re-election prospects, then. I understand now his remark about not losing support even if he shot someone in the street - he clearly knows his base well.
Stewie
The most worrying thing about this topic is how it polarises everyone. Unhealthy and dangerous. The fact that this is on the increase since Trump came to power might give you a clue. As a well travelled non-American I can assure you that the general feeling worldwide is that Trump is a white nationalist.
JenniSchiebel
Muslim radicals kill Christians around the world with alarming frequency -- and it is routinely downplayed (if not outright ignored) by the media.
Perhaps it does not seem particularly newsworthy to the news outlets because it happens so often. It is almost of a ho-hum, what-else-is-new thing.
Muslims being killed, on the other hand, is more newsworthy -- one reason, perhaps, is that it is so rare.
Muslim radicals massacring Christians is like a "dog bites man" story. Muslims being massacred, as so horribly occurred in New Zealand, is a "man bites dog" story.
I wish these massacres were all treated as the despicable crimes they are -- instead, they are either given great media weight or little to none, depending on who the victims are.
Kenji Fujimori
There is the good and the bad in all cultures, that is seen through since ancient times, even here..
Strangerland
I just googled this. Doesn’t seem to be any reality behind the claim.
Fake news. Conspiracy theory.
Anonymous
No. It says almost nothing.
Alexandre T. Ishii
I believe the children of a future, not a chiildish Trump saying anything without heart, He is the one to symbolize white nationalism. Wait a minute! Adults can't be childish like him.
1glenn
This is what we have come to expect from this President. It is very sad.
JenniSchiebel
The shooter in New Zealand is about as evil as they come. (And Trump did say so.)
And the militant Muslims who just massacred 69 Christians in Nigeria last week (which is not even close to the first such attack)?
They are no better. But the Left will not talk about them.
So, please -- stop saying that Trump is downplaying anything. It's the Left and the mainstream media who constantly and repeatedly ignore the many, many, many acts of mass murder against Christians around the world. (Most of which are carried out by Muslim extremists.)
THAT is what is constantly downplayed. In fact, it's not just downplayed -- it's typically ignored and buried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW0ritwKqgc
Strangerland
I'm left. I'll talk about them.
Seems there are some holes in your theory.
I'd bet other leftists on this site are willing to talk about them as well.
Strangerland
Wait, so you came here to defend Trump not saying anything, by complaining about the left not saying anything?
Umm... surely you can see the flaw in that logic.
Kestrel
Trump is quite correct.
Kestrel
@Jenni,
Exactly right.
Kestrel
@strangerland, so far in 2019, there have been 453 islamic terror attacks in which 1956 people have been murdered.
4305 Christians were murdered by Islamic extremists because of their faith in 2018 alone.
you mght want to "google" harder.
JenniSchiebel
The media, as well as politicians in general, have been far more "downplaying" and "silent" regarding the slaughter of African Christians ... than Trump has been regarding violence by white supremacists.
British Labour MP Criticises Mainstream Media Ignoring Slaughter of Christians in Africa
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/18/british-lawmaker-criticises-mainstream-media-ignoring-slaughter-christians-africa/?fbclid=IwAR32SQq7N8kpNgQ3xJKPx07I9pFP0vc-c76rVbqYO72taDRQpWRONsBdSXM