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© Copyright 2019 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Trump gets victory in bid to block California tax return law
By KATHLEEN RONAYNE SACRAMENTO, Calif.©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Chip Star
Another biased, activist judge legislating from the bench in favor of Donny!
Black Sabbath
The judge has now issued his ruling. Now let's see him enforce it.
bass4funk
I knew it, I knew it, lol.
Chip Star
Wait till SCOTUS overturns this biased judge!!!
Black Sabbath
Again, let the judge enforce his ruling. We in California can and will make it a requirement that a Presidential Candidate must release his or her tax returns, that if they don't, they will not appear on our ballots, and if they don't like that, they can lump it. And if they don't like that, they can sue.
And we wil tie their suit up in court just as the Team Trump is tying all suits agaisnt them in court.
Federalism sucks, don't it.
Blacklabel
Just keep on winning.
Chip Star
It's easy to win with biased judges legislating from the bench in your favor. Not to mention having the most mainstream media outlet asa cheerleader.
Blacklabel
no, that’s not how that works. When we say that, it actually does get overturned later.
Laguna
Ha. Recall all the promises Trump made to release his tax returns.
The point is not California - he may as not be on the ballot there as he has zero chance of victory. It'sthat Repubs don't want this as a precedent which will snowball on to states where they're competitive.
bass4funk
Oh, I doubt that, I’ll bet they’ll rule in the Presidents favor, especially when it comes to the issue of political harassment which has been the case over the last 3 years.
CNN keep trying, that’s their goal and they keep failing. As for biases, when a liberal Obama appointed judge rules against Trump on any issue, he or she is a great job, great American, he/she sides with Trump, they’re bias? ROFL!
Blacklabel
Requirements to run for President are in the Constitution. Want to change it, follow the process for changing the constitution.
You can’t just make up random requirements to prevent a specific person from being eligible. That’s the precedent the court is trying to avoid.
Blacklabel
Why stop there? Can’t be in ballot if no PhD. No ballot if you didn’t serve in the military. Gotta pass a physical fitness test including a mile long run.
Then each state can make their own different rules to prevent the person from being listed who they don’t want to win.
Can you guys just find a reasonable candidate and best Trump at the ballot box already? Quit wasting peoples time and win without trying to rig things like was done to Bernie last time.
Chip Star
Biased, corrupt judges legislating from the bench. Can't be trusted at all!!!!!
bass4funk
I understand that feeling. I feel the exact same way when every lower district Judge blocks Trump and his agenda.
Blacklabel
I’m glad Chippy understands how we feel now. Happens to us 10 times as much and almost always gets overturned in the end.
this one will not be.
Blacklabel
Should have decided this and then applied it nationwide to all states. Isn’t that what California (and Hawaii) judges do every time?
arrestpaul
Newsom's new law only applies to "primary" elections held in California. Primary elections are elections which are held to decide which member of each political party will be the party's candidate in the upcoming general election.
Newsom's law, as written, doesn't apply to California's general elections, only to each political party's primary elections.
Since there won't be a Republican candidate running against the incumbent President during California's primary election, Newsom's law was unenforceable the moment he signed it into law.
Chip Star
Hahaha! No. The law was inapplicable to the situation you describe, not unenforceable.
Blacklabel
Maybe, but the Constitution is just fine.
Chip Star
The constitution is just fine as interpreted by acorrupt, biased judge legislating from the bench.
Blacklabel
Give it up. It’s going nowhere. That happens to us, not you.
Blacklabel
Where’s the “nationwide injunction” if he is legislating from the bench?
I read the Constitution when I was 8 years old. Its is very clear what are the requirements to run for President. Showing your taxes ain’t there.
rlperez@hotmail.com.au
bass4funk:
Your right again. Keep making America First.
arrestpaul
According to the article -
Newsom, and his fellow Democrats, assumed that they could pass a law which would override the U.S. Constitution's requirements for POTUS. They can't, of course. Newsom has now lost the 1st round, and will soon lose the appeal (2nd round). I assume that Newsom will then ask the Supreme Court to accept this case (3rd round), which even the far-left progressives on the court will deny.
ulysses
So lets see what that means , the American public has no right to know where their President gets his money from?
He might be getting it from unfriendly countries as an encouragement for the President to share sensitive information.
But the public doesn't deserve to know!!!!
bass4funk
In a normal political climate I would say, perhaps, but we know exactly this is not a typical political climate and all this is, is nothing but a joke and a way to try to take the president down they tried everything else and it failed, so what they have been doing is trying to harass him and if there’s anything that they can do to find this taxes from his past business dealings that have nothing to do with anything over the last three years, they will try to use it to smear him, of course they will and if anybody doesn’t think so, then they are not dealing with reality, and that is absolute harassment in the president is right to do what he can and decide to block it given what he has gone through the last three years, I don’t blame them one bit.
Not really. I personally never cared about the whole stupid nonsense of the Republicans chasing Obama but his birth certificate, that was the dumbest thing. It’s not really a question if the public has a right to know this or not, the real question should be, is it that important to know? I personally don’t think it is, it won’t put more food on the table for my family, it won’t help me sleep better at night.
arrestpaul
What this means is that neither the California legislature, nor the Governor of California, can dictate who is eligible to run for POTUS.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Can one of the Trumpies remind me: What do you win here? So the President doesn't have to show his taxes. What do you win? Seems like an unwitting admission that seeing Donny's taxes would have been bad.
I get the feeling you're going to ride this stock down to zero. And I'm fine with that ;)
ulysses
This definitely is not normal political climate. Never in American history have we had doubts about the President's commitment to the country and its secrets.
It is extremely important to know if the President is under debt to foreign powers and as a result is acting on their behalf.
arrestpaul
Lead by example. You have nothing to hide, so you should be more than willing to publish your tax records for the last 8 years. Fair is fair.
Chip Star
Neither are primaries.
Chip Star
False equivalency given that poster isn't running for elected office. Why do Trumpophiles have such difficulties with arguing in good faith?
ulysses
He sure is, he might the elected by a minority, but he is still elected.
Some Trumplets think getting elected to the highest office means having no responsibility , but that's just their ignorance.
Blacklabel
we win that liberals dont get to make up reasons to prevent a specific persons name from being on a ballot just because they know they cant beat him fairly. thats what we win. Freedom to vote for anyone we want.
arrestpaul
Remind you? Have you forgotten? No citizen can be forced to produce their tax returns without a proper court order. And a proper court order requires a legitimate reason for doing so. "He hurt my feelings" is not considered a legitimate reason for doing so.
Blacklabel
what law is this? also what law says if you dont, you cant run? so you can actually not like it, and still run.
Chip Star
This law applies to primaries in California. Will the republicans in California bother to hold a primary? Probably not, so you don't get to vote anyway.
Are you from California and elegibile to vote in the primary? Then you don't get to vote anyway.
looks like your analysis of what you won is utterly incorrect.
arrestpaul
According to which legal statute? I assume you believe you have some legal standing for your demand.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Its quite obvious Zichi isn't making a legal argument. Its common sense. The law should be changed and all candidates, Democrat and Republican alike, should submit tax returns. Any reason we shouldn't change the law?
Strangerland
And our right-wingers continue to push of the president to be non-transparent, and not clear up whether or not he is financially beholden to foreign powers.
After they went on about Obama, the most amazing president in modern history, while they defend Trump.
Has there ever been a more pathetic group of individuals in human history?
arrestpaul
Ask your elected representatives (each U.S. citizen has two U.S. Senators and one U.S. Congressman to represent them) to present such a bill to both houses of the U.S. Congress, and let's see what happens.
Strangerland
Murder Mitch refuses to even debate bipartisan bills. Whatever makes you so silly to think that anything reasonable will happen with his obstruction in place?
wtfjapan
Just keep on winning.
no wall , no Obamacare replacement, Russia developing hypersonic missiles, Iran developing nukes and ready for war, NK still developing nukes and the missiles to deliver them, easy to win China trade war far from over world economies suffering because of it, all this in the last 3yrs, wow if thats winning Id hate to see what losing is!
Blacklabel
Should should should is in every liberal statement here. Then make it a law and do it. No “should” with nothing to back it up except feeeeelings.
Chip Star
No, not even close to every liberal post here contains the word should. Keeping up your amazing track record for accuracy, I see.
Blacklabel
Talking about court decisions. You know, the actual topic of this article. Winning.
ulysses
It's my solemn promise that I will release 20 years of my taxes the day I become President of America.
Thanks Zichi
TheLongTermer
the rich dont pay taxes. Robert Kiyosaki, a friend of Trump, can teach.
They are smarter than you.
bass4funk
Not quite so sure. Liberals keep saying that, but he has over a 91% favorability by Republicans, even Bush didn’t get that ad still with all the mess that the Dems are trying to throw at this guy he still hasn’t slipped below 40% as far as responsibility, over 200 accomplishments and still going strong.
lincolnman
91% favor-ability among Repubs - and 100% favor-ability among Russians!
And Putin appreciates those 200 accomplishments - "thanks comrade...by the way, when do I get that Moscow penthouse?"
ulysses
Leaking secrets to foreign governments
Hiring sex offenders
Profiting off the government
Falsifying weather information
hiring unqualified family members to important positions......
Seem like impressive achievements
theFu
Trump was born on US soil, a US citizen and is over 35 yrs old. Any requirements for Presidential office beyond those are unconstitutional. President is a national office.
California can add the tax return requirement to their state offices, if they like. Have at it. Probably a good idea. I'd like to have Trumps personal and business tax returns available for expert scrutiny too. I'd like that for all govt workers and any company with over 50% of their revenue paid by any Govt city, state, federal, or foreign too. Would be good to see where Boeing, Google, Apple, Oracle, SONY, Toshiba, gets paid if from govts, right?
Trump is an expert on walking the gray line between legal and illegal activities. He will always try to hide his poker-like finances.
bass4funk
Good.
More or less after he talks with Medvedev with his ties to Mr. I’ll be flexible after the election.
bass4funk
Sounds like the pre-Bush Democrat lineup. Lol
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping
Sneezy
So does racism.
Texas A&M Aggie
Chalk up yet another win for President Trump.
MAGA/KAG
bass4funk
Good! So half of those independents vote Republican or conservative leanings and given the fact that Biden pretty much won’t be the front runner and if it’s Warren, she will get just demolished by Trump.
Sneezy
If half the 42% of independents vote Republican, and the other half vote Democratic, then:
Republicans: 24% GOP + 21% Ind = 45%
Democrats: 31% Dem + 21% Ind = 52%
52% is, in fact, more than 45%. If only Conservatives were good at math, or getting votes! That’s why they dislike democracy, I guess.
bass4funk
Again you made my point for me, the Democrat vote is highly dependent on the black vote which they need to drag them over the finish line and so far, none of the Democrats seem to be pulling in heavily both black and Hispanic vote.
I’m very sure he’ll get more than that. Given the fact that the Democrats want to take away our guns, want to give entitlements to illegals as well as free healthcare to illegals. Those are issues that are going to drive people right into Trump’s arms.
bass4funk
If Democrats were good at math then they could’ve made a flourishing economy for the past eight years with 3% unemployment and cut the corporate tax rate and with tax people less. If they were that good at math then they could read the people that came out and voted for Trump and would’ve known people are tired of being told that they are terrible because of skin color and that they don’t have the right to speak out because of their skin color this is what got Trump elected and as long as the Democrats use reverse racism it’s going to easily happen again.
Sneezy
Oh, that’s why there are like 12 minorities in the GOP. Makes sense, I’d get tired of being told I was terrible because I’m not white, too.
bass4funk
The Democrats have a lot of minorities and look what they have done to the communities that they govern. The Democrat party doesn’t have a monopoly over the black community.
Sneezy
Yeah because they don’t treat them with open contempt.
bass4funk
No, because they need their votes, why would they? That would be a very stupid thing to do.
Strangerland
Yeah! Why aren't the democrats more like the Republicans, and using gerrymandering and voter suppression, so they don't need the minority votes. Then the Democrats could be openly contemptuous of the minorities too, right?
ulysses
Deflect when in denial , ROFL
Lets think of some other achievements
Literature
invented a new word Covfefe
Meteorology
Proved that a sharpie can alter weather patterns
Medicine
Prove windmills cause cancer.
We have a genius of a President.
if only he could manage the economy and sign some trade deals and not to forget, build a wall!!!!
Mike James
@ulysses
You are spot on! The requirements to run for President do NOT require aspirants to reveal where money has been earned. Further, a 1040 will not fully cover it anyway.
Perhaps the Gov can work on improving his Dem-controlled state where Bubonic Plague has a real chance of becoming ground zero for a pandemic.
Dems need to stop fooling around with trying to diminish the fact that they lost, and work on advancing a candidate who can win. And they need to find a candidate who can sing p-funk in tune, unlike their current loser of a candidate.
ulysses
Sure the homelessness problem is California is because of everyone’s curiosity about Trumps’ tax returns. Great logic.
Sneezy
You've gotta love his honesty, “we Republicans aren’t trying to get minority votes, that’s why we support white supremacism.”
Strangerland
And said without any hint of irony at that.
It bears a re-post:
Speaking of Democrats on why they wouldn't want to alienate minorities:
Mike James
@ulysses: It is extremely important to know if the President is under debt to foreign powers and as a result is acting on their behalf.
Releasing or requiring tax returns will not show if President is under debt to foreign powers. But it is not a bad idea.
Let's make it more through, and not just a tax return. Let's really check them out. Let's make it retroactive to all prior candidates, and their relatives as well.
Biden may have to explain how Hunter made a billion-dollar deal with a subsidiary of the Bank of China in less than ten days after he went there on AF2, and we should start asking about Hillary, who approved the transferring of 20 percent of the U.S. uranium stockpile, followed by nine foreign investors funneling $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.