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© 2024 AFPTrump, Harris battle for Wisconsin amid blowback on violent rhetoric
By Kamil Krzaczynski MILWAUKEE©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Underworld
There is no doubt about Trump's autocratic instincts.
To stay in power after his election loss in 2020, Trump tried to suborn electoral officials and fomented a mob, ultimately leading to the ransacking of the Capitol by his supporters on Jan 6th 2021.
He still insists the election was stolen. He has talked about cancelling the licenses of critical broadcasters.
He calls his political opponents “the enemy within” that may need to be dealt with using military force.
John Kelly, a former chief of staff, became the latest in recent days to declare him a “fascist”.
Norm
Trump’s blowing another dog whistle, and he’s getting more explicit as he gets more desperate.
The MAGA responses on this board are predictable. Find some twisty reach around to defend the comments, and then deflect with “But the Dems / libs / left…”
Or just call it all a big “euphemism.”
Anyway, the Tandem Bros will be along soon to tell us.
PTownsend
The above is to be expected from a candidate, whose wealthiest backers include some members of the establishment that are pushing Project 2025 which could introduce the most violence ever sen within the US since the US Civil War. Many of Trump's neo-Confederates want to see happen to erase their 'enemies within', which would please the global masters of totalitarianism whose beliefs the Trump backers prefer to those of the people in US who want to see the republic remain intact.
marc laden
I thought the election is over... according to the left media and internet medias abroad ....Harris already got enough votes to win in the pre voting... and most of the communist dreamers in USA believe that..
the latest ad a billion dollar ad says that if Trump wins he will remove out every women's uterus by force... what a shame... this is the way lefiiiities manipulates the young women... to get support for Kamala,,
And the reality if she is getting the support of young women under this false information by the left media and money powered advertisement .
Norm
If it’s a billion-dollar ad, I’m sure we can find somewhere other than the kitty litter box formerly known as Twitter.
Where did you see it?
gokai_wo_maneku
In the end, US citizens do not elect the president, it is the Electoral College that does. And not all of the Electoral College representatives are obligated to vote for the person their population supports.
ok1517
Trump called Harris, 60, a "sleaze bag" and Biden a "stupid bastard.
Trump: "Let's put her (Ms. Cheney) with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."
This should end his parole time for sure! Asking for a firing squad to shoot Ms. Cheney?
People still admire him, a person who is only good at insulting others, inciting, instigating, dividing, cheating?
The man needs some help, someone who points him in the right direction with all his problems, as there are: borderline personality disorder, paranoia, dementia, derangement syndrome, and some more!
NOMINATION
Your go-to news source til 10/2022....
Norm
I’ve never had an account, and never used it except to check out the stuff posted in the comments section here.
Unfortunately, every time I do, I never find anything that supports the assertion made by the poster. So, yeah, it’s a litter box.
stormcrow
Trump is a violent man with a huuuge ego problem. He is probably distraught over the fact that he's been targeted for assassination in the past few months. Maybe...probably...he wants to see the same misfortune happen to his opponents...or enemies.
Trump is old, cranky, nasty, violent and unhinged and clearly has no business near the White House.
ALmost
I'm not sure what is going on but Trump is able to lure in people from not only the "uneducated" gun-loving hardcore 2nd amendment-protecting-semi paranoid Americans but also the more educated folk with more sensible values from all over the spectrum and ethnic backgrounds. This "dictator-in-the-making" is somehow spreading his mental "virus" on to his listeners and creating political "zombies". I AM CONCERNED, not by him but by his disciples. What on earth is this?!
Peter Neil
can’t wait to read the twistings of people here who agree about firing squads and executions of retired generals. they’ll be along soon.
trump’s new economic czar, melon musk, says that there will be financial turmoil, chaos, a stock market crash and financial hardship for everyone in america when trump is elected.
nothing like optimism to get out the vote.
“why are you voting for trump?”
”i want the stock market to crash, chaos and financial hardship. make america great again!”
dagon
Carlson let Trump ramble and there was a lot of other Trump delusion on display at the event. Trump's corporacratic agenda was on display for all to see.
The comments about Cheney were extreme but I still think Harris is falling into the same Clintonesque strategy of focusing on Trump and aligning with the neo-liberal usual suspects on the economy and even neo-cons like Cheney on foreign policy.
That is why you get this crazy , only in 2024 of Arab-Americans endorsing Trump.
Bob Fosse
“Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face”
Remember when maga said violent rhetoric from the left was inciting assassination attempts? I do, but I’m sure they’ll conveniently forget it.
bass4funk
Desperate? No reason to
True, if the shoe fits…
Yes
Roger that.
bass4funk
Really, seemed very coherent and on point to me.
Is that a bad thing?
On point
In other words, she doesn’t know what she’s doing. I figured that one out 10 years ago.
Why? They like money as well. They know that the Dems will tax them into oblivion
Bob Fosse
Explain how. How would it be ‘on point’ to line up 9 rifles and shoot at her?
How is this not worse than the Biden ‘bullseye’ comment you spent many posts claiming was responsible for the assassination attempt?
On point? What a load of bs.
bass4funk
They called Trump worse, a whole lot worse.
Yes, he said that.
How? Why? If that’s the case, the Kathy Griffin severed head should have ended Harris’s Presidential run.
Hmmm
The Dems do a good job at it as well. I can give over a dozen examples. The left sadly can’t say jack on that.
There is no help for the Dems
Seemed laser focused and very calculated to me with that he said and why he said it. But maybe Trump made a mistake and misspoke, you know like when Biden said that Trump should be taken out.
bass4funk
Relax, all I am saying is, he did make that statement.
I didn’t see any outrage over that comment from the left-fact.
Norm
Really reaching around now. The Griffin thing was very bad (but only a euphemism!), and she got “cancelled” for a while, which she deserved. But that was in 2017, when Trump was president.
Is there even a small connection between Griffin’s action in 2017 and Harris running for president in 2024? Any at all?
DaDude
https://www.vulture.com/2019/03/cardi-b-explains-her-claims-that-she-drugged-and-robbed-men.html
Oh yall got that Cardi B again?
plasticmonkey
Kathy Griffin was not running for president, and she had nothing to do with Harris.
Try another whataboutism.
plasticmonkey
Yes, that statement came out of his mouth.
Step two, what does it mean?
bass4funk
No, she did that, no reaching anything
Bad is an understatement, any Republican would have done that, they would have been done, career over and rightfully so
Yes, I agree
So that means, you guys will stop talking about J6 now since it happened in 2021?
Directly, No, indirectly, Yes
Arrrgh-Type
Yet another headline fail. What violent rhetoric? Who said it? It's very clearly coming from one side of the equation. This kind of squishy wording doesn't inform anyone, and in fact muddles the entire picture. Every major news org needs to review how they approach this.
bass4funk
She had something to do with something of a heinous act.
No, just the facts that libs hate to go into
It sure did, Plastic
DaDude
Throw this in at the end of the article though most here rushed to the comments after reading the usual anti-Trump rhetoric. Why?
Bob Fosse
If it were at the top of the article you would dismiss it. The US economy and unemployment are all in great shape. Under the Biden administration.
Maga don’t believe this. Do you?
bass4funk
Would I now?
12,000 jobs at the latest report? You kidding me?? Maybe in your country that’s a lot, but since my country is bigger, by a lot, that’s what we would call “chump change” it’s nothing and there are people still voting that will see these abysmal numbers and yes, the economy is doing somewhat better and yet, over 75% of Americans don’t feel that it is, that’s bad and that’s crosses both party lines
Yup!
And more…
plasticmonkey
This is absurd.
There is no connection between Harris and Griffin’s joke.
DaDude
Like you did the 2nd paragraph I quoted?
bass4funk
Plastic, it’s Saturday, calm down
We are comparing bad vs bad. You think what Trump said about Liz was bad, correct? And I said what Griffin did was bad, correct? Well, then that means both acts were bad.
Underworld
DaDude
If it were at the top of the article you would dismiss it
Economists said this was a blip, caused by knock-on effects from hurricanes and a strike at Boeing.
The truth is the economy is in top shape, inflation is at 2.1%, growth is 2.8%, the stock market is booming.
ok1517
bass,
why don't you get the facts?
Even Forbes, a highly respected site (unbiased, may I add) says this:
"During the Trump administration employment declined by 2.1 million—1.7 million fewer U.S.-born workers and 409,731 fewer foreign-born workers
During the Biden administration employment grew by 13.4 million—7.9 million for U.S.-born workers and 5.5 million for foreign-born workers."
I hope you can do easy calculation!
funkymofo
Trying to equate a comedian’s joke from 4 years ago (that destroyed her career, btw) with the republican candidate fantasizing about murdering his political opponent is the most spineless thing I’ve heard in quite a while. The party of trump is a violent cult and none of its maga supporters have the guts or ability to admit the glaring amorality at the cult’s core. Fealty to trump above all. The Republican Party will spend the next decade trying to work out what stands for after the grifter is finally flushed next week.
Underworld
bass4funk
The US economy and unemployment are all in great shape.
Relax, it's caused by knock-on effects from hurricanes and a strike at Boeing.
The truth is the economy is in top shape, inflation is at 2.1%, growth is 2.8%, the stock market is booming.
If Trump were elected you can expect inflation to soar and the economy tumble.
NOMINATION
and what do people on the ground in the U.S. say in what you think is some sort of bubble economy?
Peter Neil
let’s get back to the topic - violent rhetoric.
do the maga people here agree with it?
chotto_2
bass4funkToday 08:45 am JST
At least you have a sense of humour, I suppose.
The thing about Trump, is that for all the hatred, lying, felony convictions, is that he also is unintentionally funny.
It's no coincidence that the Democrat-voting 'liberal left' are generally better-educated, but now we're only a week away or so, even with a huge Blue vote, he's downright terrifying and absolutely repulsive in equal measure.
Can you imagine, if Harris won, the UK and Starmer preparing for Harris to 'exact revenge' for blowhard Farage's interference in the US election?
The thing about Trumple Thinskin, is that he will set out to destory anyone who does not shower him with praise; the biggest snowflake of them all.
wallace
Trump said he would protect women, all women except if her name is Liz Cheney.
Trump's comment on women was condescending.
Trump on women.
“You will no longer be abandoned, lonely, or scared,” he said at the time. “You will no longer be in danger. You’re not going to be in danger any longer. You will no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today. You will be protected, and I will be your protector. Women will be happy, healthy, confident, and free. You will no longer be thinking about abortion!”
bass4funk
2017-2019: Declined from 4.7% to a 50-year low of 3.5%.
2020: Peaked at 14.7% in April
Yes, almost all government jobs
14.8 million jobs across the U.S. economy. A significant portion of this job growth occurred in the public sector, with more than 900,000 which doesn’t help the economy since it grows out from the private sector, always has.
Yup!
Underworld
NOMINATION
The truth is the economy is in top shape, inflation is at 2.1%, growth is 2.8%, the stock market is booming.
They say the economy is great!
NOMINATION
Please show me your comments about Twitter pre-10/2022 reprimanding it.
bass4funk
Huh?
What?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/nov/01/kamala-harris-shock-us-jobs-figures
Ouch!
And that’s Musk job to cut spending, given his record with him being as cheap as he is, I’ll take his word over any economist.
Underworld
bass4funk
I wouldn't call 6% of all jobs a "significant portion of this job growth". But all jobs help the economy.
Bob Fosse
Minor point, one month only pre election.
So, do you believe the first paragraph you quoted or will you dismiss it as bass did?
bass4funk
Who?
Trump on women.
True.
Not government jobs, not to the degree private sector jobs do, this is the reason why states like Texas, Tennessee and Florida have expanding economies
funkymofo
Musk sacked 80% or so of twitter staff after he bought it and its value has now dropped by 80%. Only a fool wants that for the US economy.
Norm
“Reprimand”?
Better look that word up.
And I think today — 2+ years after 10/2022! — was my very first time to “reprimand” it :-)
Underworld
bass4funk
Relax, it's caused by knock-on effects from hurricanes and a strike at Boeing.
It's in the article. You should read it.
Peter Neil
i’ve yet to see anyone told to relax actually relax.
it’s actually a snide escalation.
Blacklabel
The “violent rhetoric” was taken out of context by selectively and purposely choosing only the first half of the comment.
Jimizo
Carlson has never fallen into the trap of underestimating the stupidity of certain elements of the public. He’s probably already voted Harris.
That’s very ugly. The kind of language that puts decent Republicans off.
I remember the days when the Republicans were morally outraged about marital infidelity involving Clinton. These days many of them will excuse absolutely any behaviour or language from Trump.
They have fallen to his level.
Really something to see. Not pleasant.
Blacklabel
“Let’s put her with a rifle standing there”
since when does the person facing a firing squad also get a rifle? It’s obviously not what was being said.
Peter Neil
rhetoric in politics is kinda like (american) football
1st and 2nd string qb’s
out of bounds
hail mary passes
end arounds
punts
blitzes on the qb
4th and goal
kick offs
slant patterns
laterals
violent tackles replayed over and over by the media
audibles
nest thumping after a touchdown
i could gone on, but i’ll resist.
bass4funk
I did. The Government created 40k jobs in Oct. the economy only gained 12k so it was a loss of 38k private sector jobs. Now if you are happy with it, fine, but most Americans are not.
Data
What an amazingly irresponsible and potentially deadly comment - even for Trump.
His supporters are so blinded, you can bet one of them will take out their AR15 and go Cheney-hunting.
If anything does happen to her, charge him as an accessory - and add to the court cases he's already facing.
This comment just shows how desperate he is - his own internal polls show his losing - and he's doing two things;
https://newrepublic.com/post/187751/donald-trump-shocking-news-poll-results
Upping the violent racist rhetoric to incite his racist base - and already whining about fraud.
This election will go down just like 2020 - Trump will lose and refuse to concede and rant about fraud with no proof. The big question is how much violence will his blinded flock inflict on our country and democracy.
Bob Fosse
When Biden made the bullseye comment, which he apologized for and called a mistake, you were convinced it was not a metaphor but violent rhetoric advocating assassination.
When 45 says ‘Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face’ (which he absolutely will not apologize for) you see it as a metaphor and not violent rhetoric.
Weird.
bass4funk
There is absolutely no way on God’s green earth that he would ever vote for her or any Democrat..
We don’t care what the swamp establishment thinks, but as far as decent Republicans, we are indifferent
I remember the days when Democrats loved and protected free speech for all, good or bad or whether they agreed or disagreed with the viewpoints
The left as well when it comes to Joe’s or Harris’s excuses
No, not at all, but this is the world of politics
Norm
You conveniently (wink, wink) left out the part from your previous comment about how Griffin’s action disqualifies Harris from running for president.
Care to tell us the connection?
For redundant but apparently necessary clarity, and to avoid further egregious disingenuity, here it is again:
Peter Neil
hey, more than 50% of households have derived income from local, county, state, federal, contractor and vendor jobs for the last 10 years.
private sector jobs wax and wane with bubbles, e.g. dot.com, real estate and now ai nonsense.
and the biggest private sector jobs loss coming from patriotic american corporations abandoning domestic manufacturing to china, vietnam and india, etc.
you want someone to blame? look no further than american private equity and the ceo’s of major american retailers.
china didn’t make products on spec, ship them to los angeles and hope to sell them. every single product was ordered by american companies. cut costs by 80%, screw american industries and workers and watch corporate profits skyrocket along with executive salaries and stock prices.
it’s not the biden administration, it’s american executives screwing america.
bass4funk
Care to tell us the connection?
No connection, again just n regards to the Presidential connection unless you want to discount Liz since she is not running as a presidential candidate which would nullify your first point. Now if Trump were talking about Kamala, you would have a better argument to make. I was comparing outrageous statements and acts, so now that we established that part, we both can agree, whether you want someone to stand in front of a firing squad and aim for the head or holding up a severed head of a former president, we are talking about attacks on politicians which Cheney and Trump are, right?
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Zaphod
Well, as usual his words are taken completely out of context by the mainstream media. He is talking about her being a war hawk from the safety of her desk. And here we can again see who just looks at the headlines in the partisan media, and who checks the context of what was said: https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1852524173093933252
ok1517
"since when does the person facing a firing squad also get a rifle? It’s obviously not what was being said."
black, it's very obvious to anyone who got ears (and brains) that he did say that! (watch him say it, it's all over the net)
But as you should know, Donald is always adding or forgetting a little here and a little there, sometimes confused, dementia kicking in, mixing up stuff, not remembering his own family member's names, and it's getting worse. That's why I suggested a couple of times that someone, just anyone should help him find an appropriate institution to take care of and look after him, since his family is unable to do so.
Zaphod
funkymofo
He did not, which you would know if you checked the actual words, and please remind us who surved 3 assassination attempts already, attempted by people who were riled up by the virulent rethoric from the other side.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 09:49 am JST
That's not a denial. It's just more of your incessantly tedious and repetive "right back at you" stuff.
ok1517
"...who surved (survived? It was nothing but a PR stunt, that scratched ear) 3 assassination attempts already, attempted by people who were riled up by the virulent rethoric from the other side.
zaphod, and don't forget who was used for those PR stunts!
As for Crooks: "registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party""
As for Routh: I assume we can agree that he was a nutcase!
I don't know which third one you are talking about. Maybe another conspiracy theory??
wallace
60 million voters have placed their bets.
The Election 2020 turnout was 69%/160 million voters.
marc laden
watch here how much he is a threat to democracy
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A-WlGHRERaM