Trump heads to Europe at a time of remembrance, turmoil

How many people will Donny offend because he lacks the intellectual capacity to think before he speaks?

"Dark clouds are forming once again in Europe, and rather than encourage those forces we need to find much better tools to defeat them."

The 21st century 'spectre haunting Europe' comes in the real life form of ultra-nationalists and the far-right.

Aided greatly by Trump, Putin and others pushing authoritarianism and predatory capitalism.

I see workers building a fence in the picture. Why would they be doing that?

I see workers building a fence in the picture. Why would they be doing that?

I'd hazard a guess, someone said 'build that fence', so the 'why' would be because it's their job, which they are doing.

Why wouldn't they be doing it? And do you have any other irrelevant questions that none of us here are likely to know the actual answer to?

I see workers building a fence in the picture. Why would they be doing that?

Because building a fence around a building is an effective e way to protect the building. Are you seriously trying to draw an equivalency between a building and a 3,000 mile border?

The 21st century 'spectre haunting Europe' comes in the real life form of ultra-nationalists and the far-right. 

And with the current immigration open border policies as they are, watch these groups continue to grow and challenge the status quo.

Aided greatly by Trump, Putin and others pushing authoritarianism and predatory capitalism

Putin? How’d he get mixed up in that? Authoritarian rule? It would seem the liberal fascists are afraid of losing power as they push for more socialism.

Aided greatly by Trump, Putin and others pushing authoritarianism and predatory capitalism

@bas4 Putin? How’d he get mixed up in that?

Here's how:

Russia will use unprecedented means to disrupt the upcoming European Parliament election, former NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen warned on Friday.https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-eu-election-meddling-major-effort/

@bassAuthoritarian rule? It would seem the liberal fascists are afraid of losing power as they push for more socialism.

I think those pushing to undermine democracy should try to understand the definition of fascism. Fascism is the failed system pushed in the 1930s by those opposing democracy and favoring extreme authoritarianism. Worrying that so many ultra-nationalists and far-right wingers think it could work today. Anywhere.

The reason black is so vague about whatever accusation he is alluring to, is because if he actually stated his ‘argument’ out loud he’d get laughed at for thinking it’s a logical point. By not actually making his argument, people argue against it even though it’s so silly.

The USA was one of those nations. Probably the primary one. But let’s overlook that and just act like petulant children instead cause orange man bad or something.

and those of all the other nations that fought against Fascism

I think those pushing to undermine democracy should try to understand the definition of fascism.

I don’t think liberals even remotely know what that is.

Worrying that so many ultra-nationalists and far-right wingers think it could work today. Anywhere.

As do the liberals that continue to use it to scare, intimidate and to force a political opinionated point of view that if you don’t subscribed to it, you will be shunned ostracized, harassed and mocked until the end. We see this every single day.

If liberals didn’t act violently as liberals do, wouldn’t need to spend money for security.

This idea that "Liberals" are violent, is plain low-intelligence attempts at 'logic'.

I'm a liberal, anti-violent, and a pacifist. As are the liberals I know.

Trying to paint all of us with the same brush is ridiculous.

I truly doubt whether anyone of intelligence, here or abroad, cares what Donald Trump has to say about other people. His maliciously ignorant comments do not deserve the dignity of significant reflection or response.

@bss4 a political opinionated point of view that if you don’t subscribed to it, you will be shunned ostracized, harassed and mocked until the end. We see this every single day.

In the US, freedom of speech enables ultra-nationalists and others pushing authoritarian agendas to voice their opinions, even though they seem ugly to me and probably the majority of Americans.

Freedom of speech also enables those who oppose ultra-nationalists and others pushing authoritarian agendas to speak out against them.

That those pushing ultra-nationalist and authoritarian agendas are 'ostracized, harassed and mocked' is a good indication that their beliefs seem whack to the majority of Americans, the majority who do NOT want to see the current president undermine democracy anymore than he and his supporters in the US and 'abroad' have.

Europe learned the lessons of centuries of wars, culminating in WW I and II - and wisely choose to bind itself together in the late twentieth century to prevent the specter of nationalism and division to take hold again. Yet today, with a big push from the Russians who clearly see a united Europe as a check on their goal to grow their criminal state and bully their neighbors, the dark forces of nationalism and intolerance are surging again.

And into this steps the Great Divider in Chief - you couldn't pick a worse time for this Moron to visit and inflame an already tense situation with his hate speech and fifth grade level understanding of the world.

For our children and grand-children's sake, I hope Europe remembers - the upcoming anniversary of the D-Day Landings is a good place to start...

Trump lied about trash-talking Megan Markle. He should be man enough to own up to his bitchiness.

I truly doubt whether anyone of intelligence, here or abroad, cares what Donald Trump has to say about other people.

Those feelings cut both ways.

His maliciously ignorant comments do not deserve the dignity of significant reflection or response.

But he has to be tolerant of the ignorant insults of liberals and some of the so called elites??

Trump lied about trash-talking Megan Markle. He should be man enough to own up to his bitchiness.

Maybe he didn’t talk about her and if he did, so what? It’s amazing that liberals think this President should shut his mouth and let others insult him. It’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You want Trump to shut his mouth, then liberals should stop hounding him and he probably will.

But he has to be tolerant of the ignorant insults of liberals and some of the so called elites??

Comes with the job. His predecessor had to deal with idiotic clowns pushing rancid conspiracy trash like birtherism, but generally did so with dignity.

Trump trash-talks British royals and then lies about doing it despite there being audio recordings of it.

A petty, petulant and childish man. Pathetic individual.

@bass4  It’s amazing that liberals think this President should shut his mouth and let others insult him.

It's NOT amazing that ultra-right authoritarianists continue to back Trump regardless how idiotic he comes across, regardless how many lies he tells, regardless how many times he attacks his fellow citizens while lauding foreign despots, etc. etc. etc. Cult of personality after all. (How have they worked out in the past?)

Trump lied about trash-talking Megan Markle. He should be man enough to own up to his bitchiness.

He has nothing to be ashamed of.

We have a very different sense of civilised, adult conduct, never mind how a US president should behave.

Trash-talking somebody and then denying doing it despite there being audio evidence of it is something I would be ashamed of. It’s pathetic. The person you are spewing trash about is irrelevant.

As I said, maybe we have different ideas of how people should conduct themselves.

Mr. NoidallToday  10:58 am JST

"Trump lied about trash-talking Megan Markle. He should be man enough to own up to his bitchiness."

He has nothing to be ashamed of.

If he has nothing to be ashamed of why did he deny saying it?

Haven't you figured it out that Trump is a master and loves trolling the regressives?

Oh, I see. He’s trolling. Lying about trash-talking someone as long as you are trolling is nothing to be ashamed of.

You are all over the place trying to defend this.

What you call far right extremism is nothing more than common sense liberalism fighting against the spring of regressive insanity.

Regressive insanity would be thinking that 'progress' is a negative term.

Regressive insanity would be appealing to nationalistic fervor by remembering some glorified past - that probably never existed.

Far right extremism, like what's seen in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Turkey and other states where authoritarianism prevails, is the greatest threat to individual liberty.

That's why so many of the globe's elite favor it. Keep the sheeple in their pens and trickle down on them.

Mr. NoidallToday  11:11 am JST

Haven't you figured it out that Trump is a master and loves trolling the regressives?

That's one hypothesis. Another is that Trump is a rambling old loon who just says whatever's going on in his decaying brain and later tries to deny ever saying it when he gets an inkling that he's made a fool of himself.

Maybe he didn’t talk about her and if he did, so what? 

We know he did. The Sun newspaper released the recording. He is a liar. A pathological liar that only cultists continue to put faith in.

The "so what" is most people don't want a baby-brain liar as President. I understand that dullards and half-wits do, though. Representation is important, after all.

I love a president that can stand up to fascist,

Trump supports fascists: look how he deals with the world's ultra-nationalist, authoritarian leaders. MbS? Kim? Putin?

Not trying in the least. I love a president that can stand up to fascist, troll the haters, and that loves his own country.

Trump taking a stand against fascistic, hate-filled princesses by trash-talking them and then lying about doing it.

That’s a man you want next to you in the trenches, eh?

Comes with the job. His predecessor had to deal with idiotic clowns pushing rancid conspiracy trash like birtherism, but generally did so with dignity. 

....while Holder and Rice was taking care of the trash at request.

Trump trash-talks British royals and then lies about doing it despite there being audio recordings of it. 

If he did, so what? If the royals talk trash about him, he should take it? Absolutely not.

A petty, petulant and childish man. Pathetic individual.

As well as those individuals that think Trump should take their trash talking.

Mr. NoidallToday  11:26 am JST

"You are all over the place trying to defend this."

I love a president that can stand up to fascist, troll the haters, and that loves his own country.

He can maybe meet one of those criteria and I'm not sure he even knows he's doing it.

Liberals always focus on the response, not the initial comments that made a response necessary.

Well at least Megan moved out of the USA as promised, just not to Canada.

If he did, so what? If the royals talk trash about him, he should take it? Absolutely not.

So why did he lie?

Trump supports fascists: look how he deals with the world's ultra-nationalist, authoritarian leaders. MbS? Kim? Putin?

Sigh... authoritarian leaders have had to be dealt with for centuries. This will not change in the near future. If ever.

It is also quite easy to see that in context, Trump said her comments about him were nasty. Which they were. And I am quite sure if Obama or Hillary were coming to dinner, she would somehow be able to attend.

Since it never existed then, the logical conclusion is that MAGA is not a dog whistle to white nationalist and a time characterized by the "good ol' days"; rather it means restructuring unfair trade deals, putting the welfare of American citizens over the interests of illegal aliens; boosting the economy and public morale and patriotism. It's nice to see you finally get it and agree that MAGA is not racist.

So when was America great, if we're making it great "again"? What was the idyllic age of the USA?

As Tammy Wynette nearly sang, stand by your trash.

It's NOT amazing that ultra-right authoritarianists continue to back Trump regardless how idiotic he comes across,

You have the ultra fascists backing the liberals the Antifa and other violent anti-government extremists backing these politicians and yet, they always stay quiet and never criticize them, wonder why?

regardless how many lies he tells, regardless how many times he attacks his fellow citizens while lauding foreign despots, etc. etc. etc. Cult of personality after all. (How have they worked out in the past?)

For liberals it seems to have worked out....mostly bad though.

Then you are buying her excuse for not showing up to dinner? She feels differently from what she said prior?

The comment made by Meghan was prior to her marrying Prince Harry.

I’m glad Trump supporters see Megan’s comments before she married Harry as still valid.

Trump said he could have ‘nailed’ Harry’s dead mother on the Howard Stern show before he became president.

Should Harry regard that as still valid?

That's 100% fake comment and 100% incorrect. No member of the British royal family would make trash comments about anyone.

Ok, you can believe that, I don’t not for a second.

On Monday evening President Trump, the First lady and 170 guests will attend a lavish state banquet, Her Majesty The Queen and President Trump will make speeches.

I cannot think of anything from a diplomatic/political perspective that could possibility go awry.

Well not much the global media won't chortle at.

In approximately 24 hours, President Trump will be rising to give his speech.....

The Ballroom........

https://www.rct.uk/visit/the-state-rooms-buckingham-palace/highlights-of-buckingham-palace#/#ballroom

Saying someone who openly treats women with contempt and who 'unites' the country by asserting that neo-nazi nationalists are 'fine people' ,  “divisive” and “misogynistic”, isn't nasty, it's just plain truthful.

The duchess has got a newborn to care for. Of course she doesn't want to spend time in the same room as Trump, it would turn her milk.

I see workers building a fence in the picture. Why would they be doing that?*

Because Trump is so unpopular in the UK they don't dare let ordinary Brits anywhere near him. They'll probably give him a wide-brimmed tinfoil hat, too, to spare him the upset of seeing the Orange Baby floating overhead.

Factories, manufacturing, jobs, smaller government, personal responsibility.

I'm asking when. A time period. Answer the question.

Like a bull who keeps returning to the china shop, President Donald Trump is headed back to Europe, where on previous visits he has strained historic friendships and insulted his hosts

Pfffft! How about ... where on previous visits he has put our allies on notice that they finally have to start paying up. Nah...

Because Trump is so unpopular in the UK they don't dare let ordinary Brits anywhere near him. 

Your future prime minister likes him.

Then provide us with some real examples. Should be easy, yes!

That would seem impossible to gain that kind of access, I’m not the CIA. But the point is, it don’t believe it because how would I or anyone know what these people would say behind closed doors. But I believe they do, you may not, we will just have to disagree.

So when was America great, if we're making it great "again"? What was the idyllic age of the USA?

Before the millennials went on a socialist PC, revisionist Jihad.

bass4funkToday  01:33 pm JST

"Then provide us with some real examples. Should be easy, yes!"

That would seem impossible to gain that kind of access, I’m not the CIA. But the point is, it don’t believe it because how would I or anyone know what these people would say behind closed doors. But I believe they do,

Do you believe that any members of the British Royal Family trash talk people in public like your idol does?

Your future prime minister likes him.

You know what they say, Birds of a feather are known by the company they keep and wake up with fleas.

Or something.

Before the millennials went on a socialist PC, revisionist Jihad.

Ah! So let's see if I've got this right. Millennials are generally accepted to have been born in 1980 at the earliest, and therefore would have come into political consciousness in or around 2001 at the very earliest. So America started going downhill when an unelected Republican President of small intellectual capacity and minimal curiosity was running the country, leading to a major attack on American democracy, a pointless war that has killed hundreds of thousands, and the complete mismanagement of the American economy.

So, to make America great again, vote out Republicans. Got it.

Your future prime minister likes him.

If you are talking about Johnson, he ripped Trump in the past when he thought it was a politically useful move. Anybody who takes Johnson at his word is still probably looking for the non-existent sex tape Trump asked people to search for after a trash war on Twitter.

Trump and Johnson are pathological liars. My favourite recent episode from Johnson was on Twitter where he told his followers to vote Tory, as he had done, in the local elections. The Tweet disappeared after he found out there were no elections in his area.

There is a strong stop Johnson faction in the Tory Party. Let’s hope they stop this repulsive man.

Do you believe that any members of the British Royal Family trash talk people in public like your idol does?

I never said they did in public. And I could care less if they did or if Trump did, I don’t care, really. I’m just saying, if Trump trash talks, what are you going to do about? Seriously? Nothing, you just have to take it.

I’m just saying, if Trump trash talks, what are you going to do about?

Criticising it is normal. You criticised Trump for Birtherism. I think you also criticised him for posting an unflattering photo of Ted Cruz’s wife next to a photo of Melania. I don’t remember you criticising the non-existent sex tape tweet but I’m pretty sure you found that to be disgraceful trash. The last example of the sex tape is similar to what happened with Meghan - Trump denied it despite there being clear evidence of him doing it.

It’s just that the US president shouldn’t be doing things like this. It’s ridiculous trash and you have selectively criticised him in the past for this.

I do not believe for one moment any candidate endorsement from President Trump will make a shred of difference to the eventual outcome. As Theresa May's failure to resign after leading a disastrous 2017 election campaign continues to define today's calamitous chain of events, still yet to be brought a reconciled conclusion.

Under the current process a Conservative Party Leadership contest, two candidates will whittled down from a short list in a series of ballots by the parliamentary party. To then ultimately go head to head in a postal vote by the party membership.

It is likely that next Prime Minster, at the mercy of hung parliament, propped up by a increasing tenuous confidence and supply deal with Democratic Unionist Party, could/will face a vote of no confidence with months of taking office forcing a early General Election

Perhaps prudence would suggest the Presidential State visit could or should have been postponed, so to allow for a more congenial, politically diplomatically occasion to emerge. A tad late now.

Under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 the next General Election is scheduled to be held on 5th May 2022.

bass4funkToday  02:12 pm JST

I’m just saying, if Trump trash talks, what are you going to do about? Seriously? Nothing, you just have to take it.

Yet you're so full of admiration for the way Trump hits back whenever his critics have anything bad to say about him. Even though for all the good it does him he might as well just do nothing as you suggest we do.

Liberals always focus on the response, not the initial comments that made a response necessary.

Republicans always focus on Donny's response to people treating him like he's treated others. They never focus on Donny's despicable 'birtherism' comments on the like, the act like he's a saint who isn't dying by the sword he's picked up and lived with.

The fact that they would try to pretend he's not worthy of any criticism he gets is extremely deplorable.

If you couldn't care less then why did you even comment on it?

Because I can and have the right to.

You have no idea what members of the royal family say to each other in private

Neither do you, therefore you cannot unequivocally say with certainty they don’t or never have spoken I’ll of this President past or present.

Yet you're so full of admiration for the way Trump hits back whenever his critics have anything bad to say about him.

Yes.

Even though for all the good it does him he might as well just do nothing as you suggest we do.

...or maybe he should if he feels he must defend his actions.

Because I can and have the right to.

So you so care.

Neither do you, therefore you cannot unequivocally say with certainty they don’t or never have spoken I’ll of this President past or present.

They are sophisticated, intelligent people so chances are they've spoken the truth about Donny, which is never positive. ROFL!

...or maybe he should if he feels he must defend his actions.

No matter how repugnant his actions. And, let's face it, who doesn't love a president that acts like a petulant seven-year-old?

> Republicans always focus on Donny's response to people treating him like he's treated others. They never focus on Donny's despicable 'birtherism' comments on the like, the act like he's a saint who isn't dying by the sword he's picked up and lived with.

The fact that they would try to pretend he's not worthy of any criticism he gets is extremely deplorable.

BINGO! Kudos! HAR!

...or maybe he should if he feels he must defend his actions.

Conservatives always talking about feelings. Lol.

It is also quite easy to see that in context, Trump said her commentsabout him were nasty. Which they were.

"No, I didn't know that she was nasty."

Notice that Donny didn't say anything about her comment? Keep trying to spin it.

And I am quite sure if Obama or Hillary were coming to dinner, she would somehow be able to attend.

Of course she would. Those are two sophisticated, intelligent people. Then again, if you lack the intellectual capacity to understand them, you probably think the are lecturing.

So you so care.

For freedom of speech, yes.

They are sophisticated, intelligent people so chances are they've spoken the truth about Donny, which is never positive. ROFL!

There you go and Trump has the equal right to say what he wants about the royals.

No matter how repugnant his actions. And, let's face it, who doesn't love a president that acts like a petulant seven-year-old?

He wouldn’t be the first.

But when you are born into the British society the royal family are very much part of it. How many presidents has the queen seen out?

Who cares?

Anyway, if they behaved in wrongful way there would be leaks and media stuff which there is sometimes like when Harry had endless girlfriends and clubbing it every night. They have a certain kind of upbringing.

Ok, you can believe that, I don’t.

For freedom of speech, yes.

Irrelevant. You clearly care about the topic at hand enough to comment on it. Lol.

There you go and Trump has the equal right to say what he wants about the royals.

That was never in dispute, which means this is another irrelevant comment. Lol.

He wouldn’t be the first.

At least you finally admit that Donny acts like a petulant seven-year-old. Progress. Kudos! Or is it kuddos, which is how a journalist friend of mine used to spell it. Tee Hee.

Irrelevant.

No, relevant. I care about the first amendment.

That was never in dispute,

Yes, it was. Don’t complain, you won’t change Trump or get him to stop, so you have to accept it or change the channel. I do that when I don’t want to listen to liberals.

At least you finally admit that Donny acts like a petulant seven-year-old.

I think to a large extent all of them do.