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John
How else is he going to encourage (insight) his supporters to DOX, harass and threaten jurors and witnesses?
Good luck with that, Sleepy Don.
More likely he will be fined and told on Tuesday that the next time he gets to cool his belly in the court jail for some period of time.
plasticmonkey
Everyone knows it’s a 1st Amendment right to verbally attack witnesses, prosecutors and relatives of court staff. It’s in the Konstitootion. Nobody since Jesus Christ has been treated so unfairly!
Bob Fosse
Apparently New Yorkers love 45, they were cheering for him in the bodega. But apparently New Yorkers also hate him and it’s impossible to get a fair trial there.
I wonder which it will be today.
Strangerland
That kid is the extreme example of what MAGA leads to. The kid got sucked deep into conspiracy theories, and now he's dead.
At least he only took out himself and not others.
bass4funk
Liberals are just nutty, lighting yourself on fire...smh.
So Michael Cohen, a known and recorded serial liar can say anything about Trump, but Trump is not allowed to address any of the lies or allegations, yeah, just never heard of anything like this in the US, ever.
Good, and I will continue to speak out which is my constitutional right and if I have to pay another fine, so be it, this sham trial continues to help him.
Haaa Nemui
Is he dead? None of the news I’ve read states that yet. Wouldn’t surprise me of course… not after that sort of action.
Bob Fosse
You’ve never heard of a criminal defendant being gagged in the US before?
Wow.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I hope the guy survives so he can tell us that it was all worthwhile. Or that he made a horrible mistake. One or the other.
TaiwanIsNotChina
When you are 1) a celebrity, 2) rich (allegedly) and 3) getting free secret service protection, yes, you get to take more lumps than the rest of us in terms of speech against you.
Haaa Nemui
Maybe if he addresses the “lies or allegations” and doesn’t verbally attack witnesses, prosecutors and relatives of court staff he would be allowed to have his say. He can’t really help himself though.
Ah_so
To add to his woes, it looks like his $190m bond money for the E Jean Carroll case is going to be rejected - the bond company has insufficient assets to cover the cost of its own guarantee so the bond should never have been accepted in the first place.
dagon
Rabid conspiracism and attention seeking is the name of the game for this 2024 election and this individual from the information initially available seems an example of both.
This combination has been weaponized in the American political process by MAGA and the Freedom Caucus.
bass4funk
What you just said was just the biggest crock of Horse**** I have ever heard you say, and you have said whacked stuff over the years, but that just takes the cake.
Maybe if the judge does what up until this sham trial does what judges have done in the past, gag Trump, gag Cohen and be fair to both sides. You accuse Trump of lying, but your key witness is a known and documented liar, so either gag both of them or let both speak, if not, then you cannot say under any circumstance this is a fair trial, you can through the media, but no one believes that.
Mr Goodman
All this does is make Trump stronger again
Reminiscent of Chinese style reverse psychology tactics
As for the human tiki torch that was unnecessary
Ah_so
But he can, and he does every day. What he can't do is attack the court officials, the jury members or families of those involved in the trial.
One jury member was already basically doxxed and had to go. The prosecutors also found out that another one has been lying about their past and criminal issues - the fact that the defense didn't flag it suggests that the juror was lying for Trump.
bass4funk
Then no need for a gag order.
This means he cannot address Cohen or any of his peers because the judge doesn't want to take any chances. Ok, so violate more of the guys constitutional rights.
Well, the entire trial is a sham, so...
Blacklabel
All this media attention is helping Trump and exposing the “Justice” system.
Bob Fosse
You should tell him, he might stop whining about it.
John
Yeah, not so much. It makes him look like a raging old man in need of a nap and an adult diaper change.
Say, you don’t suppose….?
John
He cannot engage in jury tampering or witness intimidation? So unfair!
You better tell the judge, lol.
bass4funk
No, a lot actually.
https://unherd.com/newsroom/ny-times-trump-support-among-black-voters-grows-nearly-500/
No, it shows he's defiant towards a two-tier justice system.
You mean, muzzle him, to make it easier to not be able to defend himself. so basically, if you tie up Mike Tyson, then I guess by all means Jake Logan can beat him in the ring, it seems fair.
The activist and Biden donor I don't need to tell him anything, he knows himself.
Cards fan
Amen brother. It totally helps Trump. Which is why his supporters are constantly whining about it. Pathetic.
Bob Fosse
The funniest thing about this is that 45 is already close to meltdown and it’s only a few days in.
He is visibly seething at having to sit there and keep his yap shut, taking orders all day and the prospect of weeks and weeks more to come.
He’s not in charge here, that’s what hurts him the most and his deluded fans who think he’s some kind of alpha.
Yrral
You do not have a right to cross examine a witness personally,but you have right to rebut his testimony,as a witness
Yrral
Monday gonna be stormy day
Strangerland
The same guy who has spent years calling for draconian punishments is suddenly seeing the inside of a courtroom. It makes you have faith in the universe.
Ah_so
There always has been a two-tier justice system, which is why Michael Cohen was sent down for executing Trump's plan, but they didn't go near Trump, despite being the apparent brain behind it. Justice may have been delayed, but perhaps it won't be denied.
Cohen, like the Trump organization's CFO got done for lying to protect Trump. But like the CFO, doing prison for Trump once was enough.
dagon
No surprise that the concept of a legal system serving the less socioeconomically powerful is a foreign concept to you deserving a cognitively challenged "WHAAAT???"
It is an IDEAL, one that America has never lived up to like equality under the law and meritocracy.
Trump, the privileged beneficiary of a justice system that favors the rich and powerful plays with concept to dupe credulous individuals , like the tragic incident today.
Sven Asai
Nice math paradox on combinatorics, that trial in NY with randomly selected jurors. I would use it in math lessons if I would be a teacher, showing that a fully random drawing can instead lead to a clearly biased predictable outcome for one category of balls in the urn model.
plasticmonkey
What a great legal defense: verbally attack the judge’s family, witnesses, and jurors. Because they are “bias”.
Trump has no legitimate defense, so he goes back to gumming up the system. And playing to his feeble-minded base.
Yeah. Time to break apart the justice system and replace it with something more to Trump’s personal liking.
wallace
The man who sets himself on fire has mentally unbalanced and disturbed emotions.
bass4funk
What are you talking about? ROFL!
Nothing illegal about that. Biden’s handlers do the same for him.
Anyway, so Cohen is the star witness for this sham trial, it’s so funny it’s just pathetically sad.
Blacklabel
But didn’t you hear?
cohen and Stormy are “truth tellers” now.
Rofl.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Really? Can their photos fill the broadside of a barn?
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/2024/04/11/trump-associates-with-legal-trouble/73295028007/
And lying to the IRS and FBI is still a crime.
bass4funk
Hmmm
https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/
Cards fan
The irony of Trump fans criticizing anyone for lying.
bass4funk
That goes both ways.
Blacklabel
But Trump doesn’t change the fact that your “star” witness is a federally convicted liar. Ahold still be in prison.
who last testified Trump told him to do things! We got him now! but when cross examined and reminded of perjury changed his story to trump didn’t tell me, I just “knew” what he wanted.
and a “porn star” who owes Trump money. And who signed a letter saying nothing happened 5 different times.
good luck with all of that.
Cards fan
Lol you think some nonsensical letter signed under duress changes anything about the dozens of documents Trump doctored?
You don't need "luck" when all the facts point to Trump's obvious guilt. Trump fans have got nothing. Their "facts" don't comport with reality.
John
Him alone yes, what’s your pathetic excuse going to be to the signed checks and documentary evidence?
How about Hope Hicks? How about David Pecker?
Their testimony going to be impugned with some imagined conflict?
I suppose the recording of Trump coordinating in the establishment of a shell company to pay off Stormy was faked?
Blacklabel
The guy who set himself on fire is a Democrat donor and a Biden voter.
even he knows (well, knew) Trunp is inevitable.
Blacklabel
so there is proof of this, right?
it was a loan! Rofl
sure.
Cards fan
What's that letter got to do with Trump commiting fraud dozens of times? Even if the affair "never happened," that doesn't mean the fraud didn't happen. They've got him on tape talking about it.
Trump is cooked, and all you can do keep repeating the same silly talking points Trump is.
Try to stick to what people are actually arguing.
Cards fan
Everything? Lmao did he sneak into Trump's office and fraudulently doctor dozens of Trump's documents? What, Biden framed him?
Bob Fosse
They haven’t testified yet.
Are suggesting that if someone has lied in the past they are incapable of telling the truth in the future?
I don’t think the jury are that dumb.
Moderator
Readers, this story will be closed for discussion for about two hours.
plasticmonkey
A few days ago he was holding a sign that said, "Trump is with Biden and they’re about to fascist coup us."
This guy is just off the rails.
lol