world

Trump says lives being shattered by allegations that may be false

87 Comments
By Brian KNOWLTON

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© 2018 AFP

©2018 GPlusMedia Inc.


87 Comments
Login to comment

Sleazy Don just continues to amaze. There is a serious lack of intelligence in his comments on so many different but important issues. November can't come soon enough (assuming he's still in office by then).

6 ( +9 / -3 )

We are truly living in a modern day twilight zone.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

the old groper in chief certainly has a knack for hiring the crude and vulgar, the white house conference table has become a type of musical chairs. LOL

9 ( +11 / -2 )

"Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation," Trump tweeted.

He’s shattered more than one life through his allegations. I literally feel no sympathy for him.

10 ( +13 / -3 )

Nowadays, the left doesn’t need proof, an allegation for them equals facts and that’s all they need to ruin your life. I heard you supposedly did this, you are guilty! I heard you did supposedly this 40 years ago, guilty! And yet, you accuse the left of an alleged crime, stop the press, step back, bite your tongue. We really need to look into these allegations first, can’t be too hasty.

The left, the downfall of humanity.

-23 ( +4 / -27 )

I believe Trump as much as I believe that child-molester politician who lost in Alabama. Till their dying days, they'll still deny their dirty secrets, despite the fact so many people have come forward. And no, these people are not all Democrats.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Nowadays, the left doesn’t need proof,

Not just the left now, let's be honest. Devin Nunes lied about the FBI not informing the judge about where the dossier came from.

Hell, Donny promoted the birther trash, and claimed Cruz's dad killed Kennedy.

And now, are you actually accusing the women of lying? I guess two ex-wives, and a former lover all lied to the police to take Donny, or at least his staffers down? Good grief. . Don't give me this garbage about how terrible the left is.

The left, the downfall of humanity

We're all screwed if a fat orange toad with 10 year old's vocabulary is the solution. Hilarious.

Also, kinda curious:

Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused

Are we talking about Russia or Porter? What exactly did Trump know? He either admitted he knew about Porter's history or some parts of the Russia story are very, very true.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

Freedom for women

Men sexual misconduct is a world diplomatic problem. If they were able to be better men with women and not treat them as sexual slave, half of the world problems would be solved. First, Because they would not treat other man that are below them as women. They would learn and show a better kind of respect. Second, because many diplomatic solutions lies with women freedom.

Women have yet to realize their moral slavering condition. Because of religion, there is a picture of the perfect woman above them that is not the woman nature, but the man dream of the perfect slave that will not require anything from them or ever impeach their male freedom or say "no" to anything.

In many aspect women are the black people of today that is free but not free of the past bad tuition. It will take time.

Why do we believe those women ? According to my empiric knowledge about sex slave trials : "because there is others testimonies that can't be put in front of a judge without being more problematic for US diplomacy".

Wifes : they are good witness and they have money and friends to protect themselves. You don't go after giant in politic even in america without real protection. You can't take his whores in front of america without risking a sexe punitive religious revolution.

Be sure on sex, powerfull men are all guilty, but some more than other so they take the fall for the good of all -including women for once.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

Of course he would lament the downfall of another woman abuser, wouldn't he? I do understand that times have abrubtly changed and that what was once considered permissible behavior in the past no long is - and, as such, some past transgressions may be excused - but a blackened eye does not fall into this category.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

He’s shattered more than one life through his allegations

He attempted to undermine the the legitimacy of the previous president with unfounded, sub-tabloid trash allegations.

Now he’s interested in the veracity of allegations.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

He's absolutely right. The metoo movement has quickly morphed into a battlecry for every woman who has deep resentments about everything in her life.

See a man on a train with his legs a little to far apart? Destroy his life.

See a man explaining something to a woman? Destroy his life.

Some guy didn't ask you out, but went for the 24 year old intern down the hall? Destroy his life.

43 years old, and 23 lbs overweight? Destroy.

-24 ( +1 / -25 )

Trump bruiser abuser accuser loser

10 ( +10 / -0 )

He’s absolutely right

I agree with his point that we have to be very careful about people making false allegations to destroy others. This would encompass any allegations, not just those alleging sexual matters.

The dishonest, vindictive and downright atrocious people who do this must be shunned by all people with any decency. I’m sure you’d agree.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Shouting out on the campaign trail "Lock her up" was a fine example of due process.

The FBI conducted a thorough background check, Porter did not pass. That is called due process.

17 ( +17 / -0 )

Anyway, this places the Trump cabinet as a clear a shambles over precisely over a reason that is of great discourse now. Who will be staffing the White House next week? Who knows - and, more importantly, does it rally matter?

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Nowadays, the left doesn’t need proof, an allegation for them equals facts and that’s all they need to ruin your life.

You know for a fact that all the accusers have been lefties?

12 ( +12 / -0 )

See a man on a train with his legs a little to far apart? Destroy his life.

See a man explaining something to a woman? Destroy his life.

Neither of these scenarios have ever happened.

16 ( +16 / -0 )

Who will be staffing the White House next week? Who knows - and, more importantly, does it rally matter?

Whoever it is, the WH and this administration will still be a flaming train wreck catching things on fire.

I'm excited for the Trump Presidential Library. It will definitely be in the Guinness Book for world's smallest library with the fewest books on the shelves.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

The dead border guard’s imaginary family must be devastated after Trump’s made up garbage that he was killed.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

"Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation," Trump tweeted.

Trump has the lowest level of self awareness I've ever witnessed in a human being.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

The man is pure id.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

clamenza: “The metoo movement has quickly morphed into a battlecry for every woman who has deep resentments about everything in her life.”

why am am I not surprised to see a Trump supporter blaming women for bringing the victims of sexual abuse. “Grab ‘me by the p¥&@y”, eh, clamenza? Then if they cry foul it’s all their fault.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Don't care about anything this man has to say, but he has a spot on point here. Here we are in 2018, and people actually believe that Twitter or Facebook is the place to file a complaint against someone who they accuse of committing a crime against them. Now we try everyone in the court of public opinion. All we need is one woman to say "this man did this to me." And the world now instantly demands his resignation of employment, immediate apology and confession.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

General Kelly knew about their backgrounds but turned his blind eye to the reality.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

@ bass

I get that you’re a die hard trump loyalist and will never admit the obvious in regards to trump but, as far a proof and evidence goes trump and co blatantly put their misdeeds on display and then attempt to deny or ignore the truth when confronted.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Birtherism, sex tapes, Kennedy assassination.

If there's one thing Trump hates, it's unfounded accusations.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

He's absolutely right.

About what? A black eye by Rob Porter is OK as long as he never killed his ex-wife? Disgusting.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

why am am I not surprised to see a Trump supporter blaming women for bringing the victims of sexual abuse. “Grab ‘me by the p¥&@y”, eh, clamenza? Then if they cry foul it’s all their fault.

That quote is not in proper context. He said, "If you're a celebrity, women will let you grab them by the p:;@y."

He was saying what we all know; if a man is rich and famous, women throw themselves at you. Theres no sexual assault in that scenario. And feeling guilt the next day is not sexual assault.

-19 ( +0 / -19 )

if a man...

gave his ex-wife a black eye as there is proof then what is he doing in the WH? Rob Porter is a wife beater. Trump hired a wife beater. Forget metoo for a moment. This is real evidence of a very violent man who beats women. He beat the hell out if his ex-wives with picture evidence. Also, what is he doing at such a high level job with no security clearance?

if a man is rich and famous, women throw themselves at you...

That would be Brad Pitt and George Clooney, not some rich old fat orange 70-something with fake hair that is so obviously blowing off in the wind while climbing up to Air Force 1.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

hat quote is not in proper context.

A fair criticism. Let's add context:

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

Now that we have context, we can clearly see that Smoth's criticism was accurate.

why am am I not surprised to see a Trump supporter blaming women for bringing the victims of sexual abuse. “[ just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait”, eh, clamenza? Then if they cry foul it’s all their fault.

See how the substance really doesn't change?

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Not just the left now, let's be honest. Devin Nunes lied about the FBI not informing the judge about where the dossier came from.

He didn’t lie, the FBI lied to the judge, big difference.

Hell, Donny promoted the birther trash, and claimed Cruz's dad killed Kennedy. 

No, it started with the Hillary campaign and it was her buddy Sid Blumenthal, if you want to pass blame, start from the head.

And now, are you actually accusing the women of lying?

I never said that.

I guess two ex-wives, and a former lover all lied to the police to take Donny,

It’s possible.

or at least his staffers down? Good grief. . Don't give me this garbage about how terrible the left is

I know the left never want to hear about their internal flaws. Too bad.

The FBI conducted a thorough background check, Porter did not pass. That is called due process.

As corrupt as they are, how would you know?

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

clamenza: "He was saying what we all know; if a man is rich and famous, women throw themselves at you. Theres no sexual assault in that scenario."

Wow... you went above and beyond in digging your own grave in your response. Well done! Thanks for proving you not only support sexual assault and the people who do it, but stomp on the women when they come forward. No wonder you want to blame the victims here.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Tommy. wrong.

"They let you do it"

A bit crass? Maybe. An admission of wrongdoing? Absolutely zero.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

the FBI lied to the judge

If someone was not arrested for perjury then no one lied to the judge.

it started with the Hillary campaign

No, it started with the Trump campaign. That is a lie just like Trump's joke of a wall and how he's going to grant millions immigration amnesty like Reagan did.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

He didn’t lie, the FBI lied to the judge, big difference.

Nope. The FISC knew the dossier was politically motivated. Rewriting history again?

No, it started with the Hillary campaign 

Nope. Rewriting history again.

As corrupt as they are, how would you know?

The same way you know the FBI is corrupt: omniscience.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

A bit crass? Maybe. An admission of wrongdoing? Absolutely zero.

Admitting to kissing women before you get the green light to is admitting to sexual assault. You do realize there are times when women are so shocked by such behavior that they don't resist, correct? This is why resistance as an element of the crime of rape has been abolished.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

I get that you’re a die hard trump loyalist and will never admit the obvious in regards to trump

I do when there is valid reason.

but, as far a proof and evidence goes trump and co blatantly put their misdeeds on display and then attempt to deny or ignore the truth when confronted.

I doubt it, I think he was generally blindsided by this. One of Porters wives said because she was yelled at, she felt abused and distraught, seriously? This entire Metoo movement has really reached a sinister level, basically if any woman even utters the word harassment, you are finished, without a trial, due process, with little or now evidence. It’s a shame, a real shame.

Nope. The FISC knew the dossier was politically motivated. Rewriting history again?

No, don’t need to, it was not known to the judge.

Nope. Rewriting history again

No, I didn’t make Blumenthal say those words, take it up with him.

The same way you know the FBI is corrupt: omniscience

I ist go by the evidence, I don’t blame them for wanting to cover their tracks. I would be panicking and doing the same as well.

-13 ( +2 / -15 )

You do realize there are times when women are so shocked by such behavior that they don't resist

Right there. RIGHT THERE.

Hypocritical liberal mission statement #1454.

Women are helpless little Bambis who don't have the strength to say no.

Women are helpless victims.

-16 ( +0 / -16 )

No, it started with the Hillary campaign

*There is no evidence that Clinton or her 2008 campaign ever floated the theory. While Clinton supporters circulated the allegations the last time she ran for president, *they had no ties to either the candidate or her staff.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/

He didn’t lie, the FBI lied to the judge, big difference.

Did the FISA application disclose that the dossier had been compiled with funding from Democrats?

*We can’t definitively answer this question without seeing the FISA application, a classified document that hasn’t been made public. However, *Republicans and Democrats now agree that there was some language in the application about political backing to the dossier.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/02/qa-nunes-memo/

Someome's omniscience is failing them. Of course these facts won't stop that poster from repeating those falsehoods again and again.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Women are helpless little Bambis who don't have the strength to say no. 

Women are helpless victims.

I get that reading comprehension isn't conservatives' strongpoint, so I'll help you:

*You do realize there are times when women are so shocked by such behavior that they don't resist*

See that older part? It means this doesn't happen all the time, which means I'm not making a blanket assertion like you are claiming.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

I ist go by the evidence, I don’t blame them for wanting to cover their tracks. I would be panicking and doing the same as well.

Except you have zero evidence that the FBI is corrupt.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

See that older part? It means this doesn't happen all the time, which means I'm not making a blanket assertion like you are claiming.

As the great Jordan B Peterson would say;

"Gotcha"

-16 ( +0 / -16 )

As the great Jordan B Peterson would say; 

"Gotcha"

Glad to see you understand.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Yes! always blame the victims!

10 ( +11 / -1 )

Glad to see you understand.

Oh believe me, I understand. In the past year there are a number of hypocritical narratives from the regressive left that always get regurgitated. That was one of them

Yes! always blame the victims!

always right on top of things with a relevant zinger that hasn't been repeated 50 times already!

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

Oh believe me, I understand. In the past year there are a number of hypocritical narratives from the regressive left that always get regurgitated. That was one of them

Are you claiming there are not instances when women are too shocked to retaliate?

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Don't about the situation with John Kelly, but he is absolutely right about due process. #metoo is a witch hunt. People might remember the story about the Australian actor Craig Mclachlan a couple of weeks ago. Forced to leave the theater company he was working for as the lead character in Rocky Horror on accusations by several women. After the police investigated, totally cleared of all charges and he is now suing the company and key individuals.

There was also that story of the British guy that was being investigated for 9 months on charges of rape and he plead innocent. Turns out the police had found extremely incriminating evidence in which his ex-girlfriend basically said in text messages that she was going to ruin his life with allegations. Absolutely deliberate act.

We have due process, the police and courts for a reason. I personally think organisations, whether public or private should be sued extremely heavily if they sack an employee before that employee is found guilty. It is ruining peoples lives. There is no excuse for it. A process exists and has existed for decades.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

*There is no evidence that Clinton or her 2008 campaign ever floated the theory. While Clinton supporters circulated the allegations the last time she ran for president, *they had no ties to either the candidate or her staff.

More than enough evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/19/digging-deep-on-the-latest-clintonworld-birtherism-story/?utm_term=.31239f6bc265

Did the FISA application disclose that the dossier had been compiled with funding from Democrats?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/05/rep_jim_jordan_fbi_did_not_tell_fisa_court_who_paid_for_dossier_that_steele_relationship_ended.html

Someome's omniscience is failing them.

Then leave the unicornverse.

Of course these facts won't stop that poster from repeating those falsehoods again and again.

I am not holding you back.

Except you have zero evidence that the FBI is corrupt

Except for the mails of Page and Strzok that gave us a plethora of detailed information. Busted.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

Are you claiming there are not instances when women are too shocked to retaliate?

Well heres the thing. I don't view women as helpless victims. The women I respect don't view themselves as helpless victims either.

Thats where we differ on this particular subject.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

Donald Trump is totally right, someone in the US merely has to accuse you of something, and the onus falls upon you to prove them wrong. And that's across the board, not simply related to topical matters that currently raise emotions:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-UK-and-US-libel-laws

And an interesting read for general differences:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/quora-uk/the-most-surprising-diffe_b_15663868.html

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

Well heres the thing. I don't view women as helpless victims. The women I respect don't view themselves as helpless victims either.

It has nothing to do with viewing women as helpless victims. It has to do with acknowledging that some women have stated they were too shocked to resist. Again, I am not saying all women react with such shock.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

bass4funk: "More than enough evidence."

This from a guy who says there is "no proof" Trump is racist or supports abuse of women. Hahaha.

"Except for the mails of Page and Strzok that gave us a plethora of detailed information. Busted."

You mean the guy who intentionally omitted half the context? The same guy who also raised the alarm about a "secret society" that has already been debunked?

Amazing how you'll believe what has already been proven untrue, and believe it for YEARS, but demand people forget ties to Russia (which have been proven time and again), and claim Trump has never said anything racist when he's been sued for it for decades! You cannot possible claim to be in the media, friend. I simply don't believe that is what you do anymore. There is no way one could be so completely oblivious to the facts... unless you still worked at FOX. Then it might be believable.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

The women I respect don't view themselves as helpless victims either.

Rob Porter beat the hell out of his two ex-wives.

More than enough evidence.

No, Trump said it on Youtube, not Hillary. Just like Trump said Obama tapped his wires. Trump has early onset Alzheimer's like Reagan did. He has delusions like Obama's wire tapping. Soon we will see Trump coming out in a Genera's uniform.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

@Zichi - no one in their right mind would blame a legitimate victim. But, the problem is, who is the legitimate victim ? The US immediately sides with the person making the accusations, whereas the UK effectively says Prove your claim. Which one, is fairer and more just ?

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

clamenza: "always right on top of things with a relevant zinger that hasn't been repeated 50 times already!"

If you've already been told you support people who commit sexual assault and blame the victims instead, as you clearly do and have proven it here, methinks you need to speak to someone. The women are the victims -- not Trump, and not the man he is defending in his sudden call for "Due Process" when he gives none himself, and despite the photos which are absolute proof of the man's guilt. Not to mention the behind the scenes fury from Trump on how this has been handled internally and with the incriminating photos getting out.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Donald Trump is totally right, someone in the US merely has to accuse you of something, and the onus falls upon you to prove them wrong.

Not completely true. If a serial liar starts making accusations based on sub tabloid trash, anyone with half a brain or a sliver of decency dismisses it as idiotic garbage.

If someone without such a rancid history makes accusations, the accusations deserve to be listened to and judged on their individual merits.

Serial liars, and those who make excuses for serial liars, had better not mind looking a bit ridiculous and hypocritical when stressing the need for truth and due process.

Evidently they don’t mind looking ridiculous and hypocritical.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/19/digging-deep-on-the-latest-clintonworld-birtherism-story/?utm_term=.31239f6bc265

Did you even read that article? It in no way refutes my cite. Yoinks.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/05/rep_jim_jordan_fbi_did_not_tell_fisa_court_who_paid_for_dossier_that_steele_relationship_ended.html

Not the silver bullet you were looking for. One republican v. multiple republicans and democrats. Yikes.

Except for the mails of Page and Strzok that gave us a plethora of detailed information. Busted

You sure enjoy reading what you want to see into things.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

It has nothing to do with viewing women as helpless victims. It has to do with acknowledging that some women have stated they were too shocked to resist. Again, I am not saying all women react with such shock.

It has EVERYTHING to do with that narrative. Thats what liberals do. They designate everyone as a victim. Women are right at the top of the list, just ahead of people of color and illegal aliens.

In actuality, they couldn't care less about any one of those 3 groups beyond their votes and virtue signaling success.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

It has EVERYTHING to do with that narrative. Thats what liberals do. They designate everyone as a victim. Women are right at the top of the list, just ahead of people of color and illegal aliens

I didn't designate everyone as a victim.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

clamenza: "Thats what liberals do. They designate everyone as a victim. Women are right at the top of the list, just ahead of people of color and illegal aliens."

No, we designate victims as the victims, which they are. You stomp on them and say, "A woman who decides she's not happy the next morning can't suddenly cry assault", and you defend a man who not only supports the documented assaulter Rob Porter, but does not ONCE mention the women he assaulted in the man's defense. Not once. And he has said the same exact thing about the man's innocence when defending Roger Ailes, Roy Moore, and even himself most recently by denying it is his voice in the tape he brags about assaulting women on. And yet, "It's the women who are lying" according to you, and these men are the victims.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

mmwkdw

Zichi - no one in their right mind would blame a legitimate victim. But, the problem is, who is the legitimate victim ? The US immediately sides with the person making the accusations, whereas the UK effectively says Prove your claim. Which one, is fairer and more just ?

I think it's incorrect what you say about the UK. First, we never blame the victim and try to turn the cards away from the abuser/rapist. All levels of sex assault are very difficult to prove. In the late 1970's I worked in a lab has a microscopist, which also provided private CSI to question the evidence provided by the police against someone. I was involved in several cases that the so called rapist was innocent based on the work of the lab.

in Japan, I have made several translations for American visas for applicants who had been accused of sexual assault but by the end found not guilty or the case dropped before reaching the courts,

Certainly, every case of the accused isn't true and based on false claims. Unfortunately the cases here in Japan usually ruins the live of the accused including a marriage breakdown and loss of good employment.

i also now women who were raped but didn't report it because of what was involved. An Italian woman friend was raped five times.

Too many women will experience some kind of sexual assault or hassment in their lives. But it's not limited to women and will include young children and young males too.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Here's a fact everyone in the world would agree on if they saw my mug: I need a lot of beauty sleep. Since the night isn't getting longer, I better see what I can salvage for this face.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

No, we designate victims as the victims, which they are. You stomp on them and say, "A woman who decides she's not happy the next morning can't suddenly cry assault", and you defend a man who not only supports the documented assaulter Rob Porter, but does not ONCE mention the women he assaulted in the man's defense. Not once. And he has said the same exact thing about the man's innocence when defending Roger Ailes, Roy Moore, and even himself most recently by denying it is his voice in the tape he brags about assaulting women on. And yet, "It's the women who are lying" according to you, and these men are the victims.

No. you designate everyone as victims and deny the accused a fair-hearing. The 2 cases you just mentioned being prime examples, PARTICULARLY when in Moore's case, his accuser was caught red-handed having herself fraudulently writing his name in her yearbook.

But in this day and age, facts don't matter to the regressive left. Only narrative matters.

Its why you lose.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

In actuality, they couldn't care less about any one of those 3 groups beyond their votes and virtue signaling success.

Politicians are opportunistic people. That’s certainly true.

Who was Trump signaling to with his unfounded accusations in his birtherism crusade?

You really do shudder to think.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Trump just can't understand. He was beating his Ivana and tearing off her hair , and, she later went in media again to add that was OK since she could get lots of $$$ from their divorce. He just can't get why his minions cannot just give a little cash to buy silence over these petty DV stories.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Sexual, physical and racial abuse isn't a right or left wing, it can and does involve people from all walks of life but the rich who are accused will go to great financial lengths to avoid public knowledge or court cases.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Too often these days, abuse also comes from online trolling and bullying. Abusers hide their true id's to prevent detection but they too must be held accountable and responsible for their actions.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Who will be staffing the White House next week? Who knows - and, more importantly, does it rally matter?

yeah for some reason I get the image of a Trump white house with the music by Queen playing constantly in the background, "Another one bites the dust" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

3 ( +3 / -0 )

@zhichi - I wrote that the Legal system in the US supports the person make the accusation, rather than the person being accused.

Merely being accused of a indiscretion/crime has a big impact upon a persons life - as Donald Trump correctly states. Companies associated with the accused will immediately disassociate themselves with that person, thus depriving them of an income, regardless whether or not the accusation was true or not.

How can that be fair ?

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Read my original post - it's not focused upon Women, it's a general look at the US Libel system... if you disagree with me, please provide supporting evidence to the contrary.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

mmwkdw

it has become a problem I agree with so many recent and new accusations against people without the right of the court to prove their guilt or innocence and even some recents cases of rape when the accused were found not guilty. I think you mean the U.S. Legal system rather than libel system? I don't have the answer you maybe seeking.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Not the silver bullet you were looking for.

Oh, it’s the silver bullet, now on to the golden goose, next up, the FISA transcripts.

One republican v. multiple republicans and democrats. Yikes.

I’m sorry, that’s supposed to put it to rest? You can have one Republican that sees something the others don’t or someone that isn’t a tool for the Washington establishment? Think now, be flexible and not one dimensional.

-13 ( +0 / -13 )

Let's see, "allegations that may be false" ... for example, a certain someone was not born in the US. Is that the sort of thing you are talking about?

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Sorry to have to shed some light on the obvious, but a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry can attest first hand that girls/women will literally line up for a chance to be used by the band, artist, actor, comedian of their liking. Has nothing to do with being Brad Pitt or George Clooney.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

@bass

So I guess all the scandals that surrounds trump are not really scandals right?

4 ( +4 / -0 )

It's in Trump's personal best interest too take this position since he's been accused of sexual harassment as well as insulting women based on their looks. We should expect him to use his platform as President to help himself first.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

"Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation," Trump tweeted.

"Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?"

Funny how he didn't seem to feel this way when he was telling his fans to look up non-existent sex-tapes for women who criticized him.

This is what fascists need- to cultivate in their community of fanatic followers a feeling that they aren't being listened to, that everyone who is different is out to get them. So we've got all these men out there who are desperately terrified of women, desperately terrified of being caught-out for the sick sheit these guys have pulled on women, and then Trump comes along with the lie that lets them sleep at night- that women are out to get them and destroying innocent men's lives with list just because they have vagina dentata and hate all men.

This is why the basket full of deplorables clings to Trump, even as he repeatedly enacts economic, diplomatic, and national policies that make their lives worse- he tells the lies that protect their feelings. To a deplorable, that's worse than gold.

Or at least it had better be, because I suspect before Trump is out of office, the lies are all they'll have left.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Oh, it’s the silver bullet, now on to the golden goose, next up, the FISA transcripts

You should hold your breath until that silver bucket takes effect.

I’m sorry, that’s supposed to put it to rest? You can have one Republican that sees something the others don’t or someone that isn’t a tool for the Washington establishment? Think now, be flexible and not one dimensional.

I've sen how the non-establishment tools conduct business. Multiple individuals from both parties have far more credibility than one non-establishment tool. One day you'll understand how the world works, champ.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Or at least it had better be, because I suspect before Trump is out of office, the lies are all they'll have left.

Lies are all they have left now. Look at the deplorable refusal to accept facts that paint their dear leader in anything but a glowing light. These people literally think they know things they cannot possibly know. We get dose after dose of that nonsense on a daily basis on these threads.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Funny how he didn't seem to feel this way when he was telling his fans to look up non-existent sex-tapes for women who criticized him.

alleged

This is what fascists need- to cultivate in their community of fanatic followers a feeling that they aren't being listened to, that everyone who is different is out to get them.

Liberals are now educating us on fascism? What?

So we've got all these men out there who are desperately terrified of women, desperately terrified of being caught-out for the sick sheit these guys have pulled on women, and then Trump comes along with the lie that lets them sleep at night- that women are out to get them and destroying innocent men's lives with list just because they have vagina dentata and hate all men.

Sadly to some extent, yes.

This is why the basket full of deplorables clings to Trump, even as he repeatedly enacts economic, diplomatic, and national policies that make their lives worse- he tells the lies that protect their feelings. To a deplorable, that's worse than gold. 

No, the reason and reality is, no person, man or woman should be harmed, sexually or physically, but the reality is, this “metoo movement” has gone way overboard and granted the overall intentions are noble, but now it’s morphed into something devious, if someone accuses you even without a shred of evidence, your life is pretty much over with and that has got to stop. This is just overkill.

Or at least it had better be, because I suspect before Trump is out of office, the lies are all they'll have left.

Tha depends on who is lying. Karma has a way of catching up to people.

You should hold your breath until that silver bucket takes effect.

I don’t think I’ll have to do that actually.

I've sen how the non-establishment tools conduct business. Multiple individuals from both parties have far more credibility than one non-establishment tool. One day you'll understand how the world works, champ.

I’ve been in and around that make believe world and I never liked it one bit and it’s very different from the fake reality you think it to be. This one outsider despite his flaws as not being a career politician is a breath of fresh much needed air and what the country desperately needed. The credibility from both parties and now recently the left are showing us these people don’t have an ounce of credibility in them and all the more reason, they fed themselves for too long like giant fat rats and their food source is coming to a rapid end, that’s how the real world works, champ.

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

Lies are all they have left now. Look at the deplorable refusal to accept facts that paint their dear leader in anything but a glowing light.

The real lies are the intelligence agency is being once again rattled to their core, they are desperate and that power gravy train is drying up and the scary thing is, they almost succeeded in pulling it off.

These people literally think they know things they cannot possibly know.

And yet, the left try to continue to force pound people into thinking they know better than everyone else.

We get dose after dose of that nonsense on a daily basis on these threads.

Amen

-9 ( +0 / -9 )

whew - so many naive postings. must be 'leftist', 'foreign trolls', or 'uber naive'. just read from top to bottom of the posts and you will understand (if capable).

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

I can't believe how many people think not following due processes is perfectly ok. You might as well just get rid of the courts and just start lynchings in the town square again. You people are seriously disturbed and fundamentally anti-Western because you don't believe in the rule of law. You believe in mob justice. That's obvious. Why don't you move to N.Korea, Russia or China. China has a 99% conviction rate. I'm sure the sort of kangaroo court they offer would greatly appeal to you.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

FAKE NEWS !!!! FAKE NEWS

Get real trump, your followers are just doing what their leader has done and is still doing.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

" Think now, be flexible and not one dimensional."

Hello pot this is the kettle

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Once again, it doesn't surprise me that he sides with the abusers of women. Like attracts like.

Lives are indeed shattered. But not those of the abusers.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Fake News? The pictures of the woman with a black eye, police reports, refraining orders do not lie.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Login to leave a comment

Facebook users

Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts.

Facebook Connect

Login with your JapanToday account

User registration

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites