Trump lawyer says he paid $130,000 to porn star linked to president

Trump, do not like, and the manner this was dealt with only goes to back up what I already thought about him... but this idea that leaders are perfect people that have never done something wrong is ridiculous.

Smoked pot when you were young, broke the speed limit once, got it on with someone you shouldn't have etc etc gee... welcome to the human race.

The more pertinent issue in this case is the poor business record, failure to pay people and companies while running on the idea "he's a business guy".

Also pretty bizarre that he got the evangelical vote.. but Im not sure we are living in a universe where anything much makes sense... there are actual people that think the earth is flat...

"The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone."

It is painfully obvious that the payment was to support Trump's bid for presidency. Maybe it falls in the cracks of legalese to be a campaign contribution, but it is a form of publicity for Trump's presidency, preventing negative publicity by paying a porn star to stay quiet.

As she reported before the hush money was paid, she worried, while they were having sex, that he would try to pay her. Nope, it was consensual sex.

It would be great if the lies coming from Trump's circle were at least somewhat plausible. They are really just insulting everyone's intelligence with this nonsense now.

Any personal lawyer who pays $130,000 on belf of a married political client to a porn star a month before an election has made a de facto admission of triangle amoureux. There is a difference between illegality and simply being an uncouth brute, though. The question is where this stands.

Cohen states he was simply aiding a client/friend in trouble (though it's not like Trump lacks for hush cash - witness Trump University. This was relative pennies). Clearly, the gambit was to guise the cash's origin.

But that didn't work out. (Amazing how otherwise seemingly intelligent people think secrets can be kept in Washington.) So was it illegal?

Politico quotes a GOP lawyer who referred to a similar case with John Edwards:

The money spent for Edwards in 2004 or for Trump in 2016 is not covered by the election law,” Baran said. “As the jury concluded in the Edwards case, money spent for a candidate is not necessarily money spent for a campaign and, therefore, is not a regulated contribution or expenditure. Both times the purpose of the expense was highly personal, to say the least, and not campaign related in the legal sense.

Perhaps the lawyer is accurate, at least in the legal sense. On the other hand, Edwards remains a pariah to the Democratic Party, whereas Trump is their leader.

Trump's certainly facing a busy spring.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/22/stormy-daniels-trump-payment-illegal-donation-357250

and what she described as their "textbook generic" sex

Ouch, that cuts any man deep. I also feel a 'textbook generic' set of denials coming from Planet Trump in the near future; "She's lying", "She's not my type", followed eventually by, "It was yuuuge!"

If these reports are true that a “liaison” took place, then Ms.Clifford has sold herself short. Any self-respecting woman wouldnt go near the disgusting, bald and obese old man - for ANY price!

An affair doesn't really interest me that much, I'm sure most politicians do it at some point and sexual activity is nothing to be ashamed of. Not sure why his trophy wife bothers to stay with him though, reflects incredibly poorly on her..

His collusion with Russia however, that's unforgivable

If people don't care about all the contractors Trump stiffed, they're not gonna care that he stiffed a lawyer.

America is the laugh at every table. If you were wondering how they could elect this energumen as president, well you need to assess the quality of its population.

Sleeping around is one thing. Although why the uber religious voted for the guy is beyond me.

Assaulting women and lying to the people - that's an entirely different, er, affair.

No lawyer would pay $130,000 of their own money for a client without being reimbursed. Expecting anyone to believe that is thinking that everyone has the IQ of Trump supporters.

Politico quotes a GOP lawyer who referred to a similar case with John Edwards:

The money spent for Edwards in 2004 or for Trump in 2016 is not covered by the election law,” Baran said. “As the jury concluded in the Edwards case, money spent for a candidate is not necessarily money spent for a campaign and, therefore, is not a regulated contribution or expenditure. Both times the purpose of the expense was highly personal, to say the least, and not campaign related in the legal sense.

it's a bit more complicated than what this excerpt says. edwards faced 6 charges, of which only one was aquitted while the jurors deadlocked on the remaining 5 charges. so it's not exactly clear whether what cohen did was legal or not. but definitely if charges are brought up, even if trump is acquitted, will hurt republicans in the midterm elections. they can kiss the women vote goodbye.

and what she described as their “textbook generic”sex

I’ll give 2/1 on Trump asking his followers to check out a non-existent sex tape which shows his ‘incredible’ performance.

Hope his bone spurs didn’t play up.

So, Donald Trump had consensual sex with a woman more than 10 years ago when was a registered democrat. The SJWs should be applauding him.

Besides, when did the radical alt-left MSM start caring about sexual behavior? They have more than their fair share of perverts to comment about. . . .

zichiToday  05:05 pm JST

I wouldn't have sex with Trump even if you paid me $1 million!

Heh, don't think he swings that way, zee. You missed the chance to make your million by a president. . .

 they're not gonna care that he stiffed a lawyer. contractors, lawyers, models, porn stars , abused women, Clinton, banks, The American people, is there anybody this cretin hasn't stiffed before!?

Nessie,

If people don't care about all the contractors Trump stiffed, they're not gonna care that he stiffed a lawyer.

He clearly "stiffed" her more than once and in more than one way. Nothing will come of this - a father on his third wife nursing a four-month old son who boinks a porn star is apparently more righteous than a faithful father who happens to be of the wrong color and political affiliation. Just further evidence is all. Plus the potential legal issues. I mean, only ＄130,000 - imagine how much she's demanded and is likely receiving now (this time probably directly from Trump) to further her silence. She might well ed up better compensated than Marla.

Melanie herself might take Dodgy Don down......literally!

oops. Melania!

A few problems with this story:

1.) This rumor has been circulating since 2011.

2.) In December, Stephanie Clifford declined to publically denounce President Trump when the DNC trotted out those women to do a series of televised and print interviews. In a letter to Cohen, she said her involvement with then-private citizen Donald Trump was "limited to a few public appearances and nothing more."

3.) She already denied a Jan. 12 article published in The Wall Street Journal that she had a sexual relationship with President Trump, saying: “If indeed I did have a relationship Donald Trump, trust me, you wouldn’t be reading about it in the news, you would be reading about it in my book."

4.) The aforementioned Cohen revealing the details to none other than the Very Fake News NYT is the biggest red flag.

Cohen. . .declined to give details such as why he made it or if Trump was aware of the payment at the time. -- article

There is the hook to this story. Maybe the hush money was paid because the lawyer had the affair, not President Trump. Maybe she was blackmailing Cohen by saying she would blame President Trump unless he paid her.

This is just another kitten-chasing-a-laser-light type of story. . . .

So, Donald Trump had consensual sex with a woman more than 10 years ago no he had an affair with a pornstar while his wife was at home looking after his newborn son, he then paid hush money to keep her quiet before the election. there fixed it for you.

This is just another kitten-chasing-a-laser-light type of story. . . . then why the hush money before the election, if Trump thought his morals would pass with the voting public there would be no need for the payoff.

4.) The aforementioned Cohen revealing the details to none other than the Very Fake News NYT is the biggest red flag.

So Cohen is lying because he admitted the payment to a paper that you don't like? If he admitted it to FOX would it be the truth?

Maybe she was blackmailing Cohen by saying she would blame President Trump unless he paid her.

Haha! Start up the conspiracy engine and hit the gas!

oops. Melania! I truely do have sympathy for that lady, at home looking after her cheating husbands newborn son, I can understand why she doesnt want to hold hands, money can only buy so much dignity

After carefully reading the statement, it looks like this is Cohen's problem. No where did he say the payment was made on behalf of anyone but himself.

Heh, if Cohen prefers to sleep with women like that and he can afford it, more power to him. . . .

No where did he say the payment was made on behalf of anyone but himself.

Whaaat! You mean to say Cohen didn't say "The money I paid to this porn star is on behalf of my long time client Donald Trump who slept with her just after his wife had their first child".

Oh well that's that then I suppose. Case closed. We're lucky you came here to Sherlock the s#*t out of this for us Tex.

Prostitution is illegal in most of the USA, BTW. I bet the lawyer pointed that out, but the porn star already knows it too.

I've never understood that directly paying for sex is illegal, but getting married and "paying" with 50% of everything you own via divorce makes it legal somehow? So it appears the amount paid is what makes the difference for how legal it is to pay for sex?

At least in the USA.

Maybe the hush money was paid because the lawyer had the affair, not President Trump. Maybe she was blackmailing Cohen by saying she would blame President Trump unless he paid her. since when is a lawyer having an affair a scandal, or even newsworthy!? Let her blame Trump then he can sue her, why hasn't he sued her already unless Trump know they've got more than enough evidence to prove he did have the affair.

12 year old affair. Big deal. Its between President Trump and his wife.

Meanwhile, while more leftist heads explode and then forget about this in about 36 hours, the President will still be taking care of business.

Stormy Daniels claimed she spanked Trump with a Forbes magazine with a picture of him on it.

It does sound plausible.

Big deal

Totally. Definitely not worth paying a porn star to sign an NDA. No big deal. ;)

Hopefully, we won't have to hear the right whale about traditional values anymore.

Yes Trumplets its not a big deal a man banging a pornstar while his wife is at home taking care of a newborn very classy.

To be fair, only the most deranged partisans defend Trump’s decency or claim he has any class.

The honest Trump supporters accept they’ve elected something from the toilet. They do exist, and I admire their honesty to a point.

Gotta feel bad for Trump's wife hearing these stories.

Gotta feel bad for Trump's wife hearing these stories.

Not really. He has paid her millions - and when she married the creep, she would absolutely have known of his need to use paid-for sex. Furthermore, she would be delighted he is using these other paid-for women as outlets - and not her!

She should have told Trump to take a shower instead. And not the alleged kind of shower he had whilst in Moscow.

"Stormy Daniels ( Stephanie Clifford ) ... who once said she had an affair with Trump..."

"... Trump, through his lawyers, and Clifford, 38, have both denied anything ever went on between them."

Well, which is it, Stormy? Which is it?

"Also pretty bizarre that he got the evangelical vote.."

Au contraire! What were they supposed to do, vote for that evil incarnate Clinton?

Is she on all fours in that pic? I don't even think she's all that....

How's President Trump working out for the hypocrite evangelicals?

Heh, at least we'll never see the god card in an American election again.

Well, which is it, Stormy? Which is it?

I'm sure that fab sweaty bloke in the basement will soon be pumping out some conspiracy crack for you to smoke soon on Youtube

Madverts - You don't think she's all that what? Come on, tell us!

Clippety - This guy is really fab and sweaty, haha

Trump lawyer says he paid Stormy Daniels out of own pocket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzgYmpaKUg

Remember that Trump is a fighter and never settles.

Man, the lawyer paid his own money to her out of nothing but the goodness of his own heart. Such great Christian values!

/s

Routine...no big deal. You should hear about the ones you don't know about yet!

President Trump apparently intends to try to Make Prostitution Great Again.

Nishikat,

http://www.newnownext.com/19-republican-politicians-gay-sex/12/2016/

Number 17 "Randy Boehning". Heh, now there's a porn name, "Stormy" is plain Jane in comparison.

And then there was disgraced Mark Foley, underage gay sex predator, and vocal supporter of sleazy Donald Trump.

This stuff writes itself....

It is painfully obvious that the payment was to support Trump's bid for presidency. Maybe it falls in the cracks of legalese to be a campaign contribution, but it is a form of publicity for Trump's presidency, preventing negative publicity by paying a porn star to stay quiet.

But can you prove it?

As she reported before the hush money was paid, she worried, while they were having sex, that he would try to pay her. Nope, it was consensual sex.

Homestly, who cares? If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot.

And then there was disgraced Mark Foley, underage gay sex predator, and vocal supporter of sleazy Donald Trump.

This stuff writes itself....

Yeah, we could write a book of all the slimy sleaze on the left that politicians slept with while being commander in chief and knowing it factually with a mountain of physical evidence. Whatever Trump does in his private life I could care less, now if it’s harming the country like it was back in 1998 then I would have a problem with it, but as long as you don’t bring it to the Oval Office. I could care less.

If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot. and what about his wife is she lucky that her cretin husband was banging a pornstar just after she had given birth to his son!? The whole point is Trump covered it up and if it had come out just before the election would he still have got those votes from the hard core christian supporters or even a voter with an ounce of morality!?

How nasty losers’ camp is trying to hurt Donald Trump after Russian gate is nowhere to go now. These peoples will try to discredit President Trump whatever they have a chance, even Trump has passed gas at his President Office table.

I was wondering how many American men won’t take advantage with a married woman or porn star who flirts with him when they were alone in the room.

The moral decency of the majority of American men and women is falling onto the ground in the 20th century and there's no redemption in American society in the 21st century. Some women participate in "Me Too" campaign are fake and they have marked on their moral decency.

Former Canadian PM Kim Campbell has tweeted yesterday about some women demeaning themselves by wearing sleeveless dresses and sitting with suited men. She didn't include some women proudly wearing very low cut top and revealing almost half of chest on TV Show. Sometime you have to watch the male co-host is looking down at his female co-host very low cut top chest on TV show. He laid his eyes on female co-host chest frequently. Whose fault it was?

Where's decency in entertainment industry?

Some peoples in show business and journalists are thinking they are better than other peoples but they are not. Let these peoples to make candidate for public office and then their dirty secret will pop up in everywhere, the News Paper and on the Internet. They are good people until their dirty secret was revealed and published by someone who knows their dirty secret.

Oprah Winfrey was proving to be she was wised and intelligent women by rejecting rumor about the 2020 Presidential Election. She wants to keep her private life for herself.

Do you remember most respectable TV Show host David Letterman affair with one of his staff and blackmail by his former writer?

That story was published because it was involved blackmail. Otherwise, David Letterman affair with young female staffer will not become publicity.

The White House can be very sticky place. Do you remember JFK affair with many women when he was in White House? How about Bill Clinton’s cigar in the office?

They know, Donald Trump slept with former porn star won’t be ousted President from White House. The only thing they want is hurting image and reputation of Donald Trump, marriage and his private life. All they want is to hurt Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not perfect person because he was one of them.

Well floating that explanation tells me Trump and his lawyer think his base are morons.

WOAH! Stop the presses.

He did not say that he paid with his own money. He said that he facilitated the payment.

He did not say that the money didn’t come from Trump himself.

The actual statement is sneaky, slippery lawyer talk.

It's more likely that Trump paid her to tell he was her lover than to shut her up. One hint is she did tell and he still paid.

Do you remember JFK affair with many women when he was in White House? 

Precisely. Kennedy was heavily disabled due to his war wounds, unable to walk more than few steps without clutches, constantly under massive amounts of painkillers, wearing a medical corset to maintain his back, etc. Not a dynamic image. So his PR team would spread rumours of many affairs.

I've never understood that directly paying for sex is illegal, but getting married and "paying" with 50% of everything you own via divorce makes it legal somehow?

Have a camera recording the fun and its no longer illegal to pay for sex. The mind ditch boggle, eh.

"... Trump, through his lawyers, and Clifford, 38, have both denied anything ever went on between them."

Well, which is it, Stormy? Which is it?

Let's see, her comments about the affair came before the payoff and non-disclosure agreement were signed. I'll let you sort out the rest. If your having trouble, ask your leather-jacketed, shirtless YouTube friend.

Homestly, who cares? If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot.

So much for conservatives screaming about morals. Classy.

Whatever Trump does in his private life I could care less, now if it’s harming the country like it was back in 1998 then I would have a problem with it, but as long as you don’t bring it to the Oval Office

Ahhh, the short/selective memories of conservatives. Clinton's affair wasn't harming the country until Kenneth Starr's witch hunt went off the rails of its original purpose and started smearing the dusky elected president over alleged purjury.

That story line, sans the hyperbole, sounds warily familiar. A special counsel starts at Point A and ends up at Point B, which leads to impeachment.

Yep. Tabloid heaven

Yep. Tabloid heaven

Unfortunately, that's what sells.

How can the conservatives live with themselves after voting for Trump?

A manager for the adult film actress told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Daniels believes Trump's lawyer invalidated a non-disclosure agreement by publicly discussing the payment.

So much for conservatives screaming about morals.

The party that used to be known as being the fiscally conservative party of morals now has stopped caring about being fiscally conservative, and about morals.

So what is their appeal now?

So what is their appeal now?

Simplicity. It appeals to the barely-literate, indescribably ignorant that feel someone speaking like an adult to them is lecturing.

That was either a rhetorical question or you're slipping. I'm going for the former.

*If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot. **and what about his wife is she lucky that her cretin husband was banging a pornstar just after she had given birth to his son!? *

Gosh, I wish I could have heard the same outrage about the President who so famously gave the blue dress an infamous name.

The whole point is Trump covered it up and if it had come out just before the election would he still have got those votes from the hard core christian supporters or even a voter with an ounce of morality!?

Sorry, it’s just a bunch of seedless grapes once again. To be honest, I would never cheat on my wife, but having said that, I’m not a hypocrite, I cannot say this enough. I don’t care what a person does in their private lives, doesn’t concern me and if you are a politician as long as it doesn’t affec your ability to work, who am I to judge?

The party that used to be known as being the fiscally conservative party of morals now has stopped caring about being fiscally conservative, and about morals.

No, not really. Conservatives are human just like everyone else, but overall, when it comes to family and the sanctity of marriage and God, generally speaking most are strong in their belief and outlook on marriage, don’t know a lot of hippy free loving conservatives and I have been in San Francisco many, many times.

So what is their appeal now?

The same as before, by the way, the President was for over 50 years until recently a Democrat, 10 years ago, he was a Democrat. He was giving in to his liberal tendencies back then. Now if that happened now, I wouldn’t say anything, but 10 years ago?

Ahhh, the short/selective memories of conservatives. Clinton's affair wasn't harming the country until Kenneth Starr's witch hunt went off the rails of its original purpose and started smearing the dusky elected president over alleged purjury.

Perjury? Anyway, he was a sitting President, so yes, it was a huge distraction and definitely hurting the country. If Trump did the same thing now in the WH I would be equally outraged as I was back then.

That story line, sans the hyperbole, sounds warily familiar. A special counsel starts at Point A and ends up at Point B, which leads to impeachment.

Yes and the GOP suffered as a rusult. Dems, take it away. Lol

Trump fans don't really have a choice.

who cares? If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot.

Who cares? His wife who had just given birth to his son, maybe? Genuine conservatives who actually believe in upholding family values and manage to do it?

The party that used to be known as being the fiscally conservative party of morals now has stopped caring about being fiscally conservative, and about morals.

So what is their appeal now?

Cult of personality. His supporters seem to have given up on principles, instead they follow Him and his words. They even have a song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPpd-6X3tEo

Hilariously, Trump's lawyer talking about this agreement may have invalidated it, allowing Ms. Clifford to talk freely about the incident.

I personally have no problem with Presidents having affairs with porn stars, but the logical consequence that must follow from that is that the people who have spent their lives preaching that God demands sex only take place within the bounds of marriage and that this is the thing God cares about most cannot turn around and proclaim that President represents their God. And yet I know people who nearly daily proclaim Trump to be the anointed of God sent to restore the Christian faith.

Trump fans don't really have a choice

People always have a choice, now Liberals want to take that choice away.

Who cares? His wife who had just given birth to his son, maybe? Genuine conservatives who actually believe in upholding family values and manage to do it?

Has nothing to do with it. Conservatives also believe whatever you do in your private life is your own business.

Homestly, who cares? If Trump did have sex with her, I guess that would make him a lucky man, the woman is kind of hot....Think his wife would care..You call sleeping with a pornstar thats had enough sticks in her that you could make a picket fence around Texas lucky...everyone to their own...Kind of hot...some reason I cant find porn stars hot but my wife definatly shes one hot woman.

Huh? Again, the man can have nightly sex parades, as long as he’s not bringing it to the WH, I don’t care about his private life.

Has nothing to do with it. Conservatives also believe whatever you do in your private life is your own business.

Do you think Mike Pence would agree with that?

If Trump was playing around in the Oval Office, you wouldn’t care less. You’d do what you’ve already done here - lapse into the usual whataboutery about the libs citing Bill Clinton.

You’d vote for Stormy Daniels if she was running for office on the GOP ticket.

Do you think Mike Pence would agree with that?

I think so.

If Trump was playing around in the Oval Office, you wouldn’t care less.

Go back and read what I wrote, please.

You’d do what you’ve already done here - lapse into the usual whataboutery about the libs citing Bill Clinton. 

Of course, someone has to keep the liberal hypocrisy in check.

You’d vote for Stormy Daniels if she was running for office on the GOP ticket.

If she’s a strong conservative, probably.

I love reading conservatives write about how liberals want to take people's choices away. It isn't liberals trying to tell others what to do with their bodies (abortion). Too fcuking funny.

The President's lawyer just said he personally paid a porn star $130,000 to keep her silent, right before an election.

And in other news, (irrelevant person) did (irrelevant things) during (irrelevant time in the past).

I'm sure he's gonna come out with some lie to deny this, but then contradict what he just said. like ;

"I was the best man SHE has ever met!"

"It was yuuuge"!

Those that live in glass houses, should not throw stones.

Unlike, Bill Clinton who in his presidency couldn't admit to having sex, at least Trump knows what sex is!

The damage from this storm will no doubt leave some people adrift and rudderless.

Expect serious structural faults.

Have a camera recording the fun and its no longer illegal to pay for sex. The mind ditch boggle, eh. yes prostitution is illegal in the US, but a sexual act can be filmed and distributed for sale and that legal as its pornography. Also of note a 17,18,19yr yrs old woman/man can star in one of these sexual acts with multiple partners male or female can do many obscene things in these scenes, legally!, but at the end of a hard day of filming this teenage woman/man cannot relax and have a beer, legally!! America has seriously got it priority all fudged up!

Whatever happened to Client Confidentiality ? I suspect this Lawyer may no longer be able to practice.

Modern day "liberals" are so sexually repressed, it's not healthy. I suggest they take some time off from obsessing about Trump and learn to enjoy life and celebrate tolerance.

So this guy has sex with a porn star just 4 MONTHS after the birth of his son, and the Reps say 'who cares it was a decade ago'...

By electing this odious man, you have forfeited your right to question the morals and values of others -

So much for conservatives screaming about morals. Classy.

In 1996, I had morals, then I learned about sex from the democrats.

I still have morals, but as I get older, what a known womanizer does really doesn't surprise me.

3rd trophy wife wasn't exactly a well-hidden secret. I assumed each after the 1st began with an affair. OTOH, living in a loveless marriage for 40 yrs, now that would suck completely.

As ever, it is not the act that poses the risk but the denials.

Get a life. At least the guy has a libido. As long as he doesn't run the country into the ground, I don't care if he invites a mistress over to the WH every night. That's his personal business.

 if charges are brought up, even if trump is acquitted, will hurt republicans in the midterm elections. they can kiss the women vote goodbye.

("not on the lips")