Trump lays out plan for terrorism fight, immigrant controls

I wish the GOP has used "extreme vetting" on their presidential candidates.

Manafort denied any wrongdoing, saying he had “never received a single ‘off-the books cash payment,’” or worked for the governments of Ukraine or Russia.

Jesus... Ukraine and Russia are only his more recent employers. Look up this guy's list of previous employers. Trump certainly chose the right man to spruce up his image. He has a long history of lobbying for human-rights-abusing dictators from across the globe. Anti-corruption candidate my ass.

Damn, it's tough to be Catholic in Trump's America.

Oh, they are only targeting Muslim illogicality, not Catholic illogicality, so it's all good.

Fact Check: “I have previously said NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats, very good."

This is untrue. NATO has not adopted any major or minor changes in its policy towards terrorism since at least Dec. 2015. However, Trump's imbecilic comments about NATO didn't occur until much later, in March 2016. Unless, of course, NATO recently sent him a letter.

“In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test."

Yes, he's talking about the 1952 McCarran–Walter Act. It was stupid and wrong then and it's stupid and wrong now. Which is why it was gutted in the Immigration Act of 1990. Besides, how would a ideological test screen out someone intent on lying?

"Have you ever considered bring harm to the United States?" "Err... No.""Okay, then. Welcome to America!"

Meanwhile, Paul Mannafort certainly made some waves working for Viktor Yanukovych. He claims his role in Ukraine was to help align Yanukovych align his administration with Western interests. It would appear he failed spectacularly, considering Yanukovych turned his back on the West and hopped into bed with Russia in 2014, culminating in a Russian invasion of Crimea.

As Trumpers like to query, "Isn't this interesting?"

Personally, I prefer Deep Throat's line, "Follow the money."

Too late, too close to the election to start saying normal rational things, after all the stupid and insane things he's said up till now.

So all the support he got up until now by saying he wants US allies to pay more, that we do more for them than they do for us and all the rest... What happens to that now that he's reversing course? Supporters who were all for his "go it alone" approach before are going to start toeing the mainstream US policy of engagement with allies and foreign expenditures? You can always count on this "leader" to espouse no less than three opposing viewpoints all at the same time in answer to any question when he freeforms from the mess that passes for his mind. This simply smacks of his being able to keep to an approved script for once in a speech. Is that what Trumpians want? A good little boy who plays by the GOP rules, or do they want their inspired madman who "speaks the truth?"

It probably doesn't matter. What they want is a white man in the White House. He can be a business incompetent, bullying fraud...

So long as he's a racist.

“I have previously said NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats, very good,” he said.

Yeah, sure Trump. The most powerful military alliance on the planet just totally forgot to make an anti-terror policy until you came along.

Come on, Melania. Just give him a shiny toy to play with, please? The adults have stuff to get done.

Trump: “I have previously said NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats, very good,” he said.

Giuliani: "Under those 8 years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the US," Giuliani told the crowd. "They all started when Clinton and Obama came into office."

Trump Spokesperson: “Remember, we weren’t even in Afghanistan by this time (in 2009),” Katrina Pierson told CNN early Saturday. “Barack Obama went into Afghanistan creating another problem.”

Same Spokesperson: “It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagement that probably cost [Khan] his life (in 2004),”

Creepy, huh?

And in other news, Fox News now has a "BIAS ALERT" tag now and they attach it to stories where they claim there is media bias against Trump. Yep. That Fox News. The same one pushing stories about Clinton's health and Democrats rigging the election. Calling out other news sources. For being biased.

Shame has officially left the building at the GOP.

I wish the GOP has used "extreme vetting" on their presidential candidates.

HeH, that's a knee slapper. . . as if HRC was not just investigated by the FBI.

She's been under more extreme vetting than any other candidate, ever. And passed.

Wait a minute, Trump has speech writers? I thought all his speeches were off the cuff ad-libs.

Perhaps he now has more people telling him to read the words on the paper and not follow his erratic brain-wrecks.

then what does that make Trump with his failed hotels, casinos, magazines, and, (ahem!) "university?" Exactly! If they wanted a real businessman for president then nominate a good one like Bill Gates. He's much much richer than Trump. Also, (unlike Trump) he has delivered for his investors over the decades. On top of that he has made many of his employees millionaires. Also, Bill Gates didn't rely on daddy's money that much compared to Trump. Gates has provided more jobs and more millionaires not only in the United States but around the world. Why are Republicans (the ones who want Trump) so obsessed with such a clown when there are so so many better people around. In fact Trump is near the bottom when it comes to property dynasties in NYC. He isn't even in the top of his game in NYC property. OK Republicans, he's your clown, not mine. You could have chosen better, but it's too late. If you had chosen someone like Chris Christie there would be a better chance.

...okey dokey, got my HB pencil hoping for an equivalent visa ... let's see, question 12: "Do you believe in religious freedom - that is, that all people have a right to act in accordance with their religious values?" I'll go with a "yes" on that - but, wait: abortion. That's a line I can't cross, so "no." Number 13: "Do you belive in gender equality - that is, that women should have the same opportunities as men?" Sure! - except for our priestly caste, so actually, that's a "no" too.

Damn, it's tough to be Catholic in Trump's America.

cloa513AUG. 16, 2016 - 03:37PM JST Why not cozy up to Russia

Team Trump already have. Manafort and his alleged 13 million dollar bribe from a Russian lackey. Trump and his murky relationship with head gangster Putin....

Crooked Trump should be forced to release his tax returns. Dodgy money from dodgy oligarchs is all that props up Trump's mountain of debt.

I wonder how Hillarys fundraising numbers would like? Probably the total opposite. What does that mean? She negatively raised 91 million?

Trump proposes ideological test for Muslim immigrants and visitors to the U.S.

Yep, it will be a loyalty oath to Donald! And now.......watch right-wingers say there is nothing wrong about THAT!

@TexAg the number of people to turn out to the candidate's rallies. Mr. Trump draws tens of thousands.

As a Texan, you’re no doubt aware of and have even probably been directly exposed to cult behavior. ‘Come and take it’ and ‘open carry’ rallies? Branch Davidians? Dallas Cowboys fans? Evangelical revival meetings? Trump has been a master, a modern day Billy Sunday, at attracting a specific demographic who see him as their greatest hope. Large crowds at his traveling shows make sense.

Think about how many of y’all go to gun shows, NASCAR, tractor pulling and monster truck events. Remember, there’s a spectrum of types in the US, and a large number of folks who enjoy these kinds of events are also Trump supporters; they’re people who like to attend shows with ‘their own kind’.

A war that is win-able and can be won.

You're foolish if you think a war against an idea can be won. For every enemy you kill, you create two more. War never results in peace.

I'm stunned Obama would back the terrorist rebels that did that and behead a kid.....disgusting.

I'd be stunned too, you know, if the claim you are making was within the realm of reality.

And the left-leaning MSM opinion poll takers have already been caught oversampling democrats.

No, they haven't. You culled that from a fraudulent "polling" site administered by some white nationalist nut hiding out in New Mexico.

I would really love to hear what your visual conception of this supposed vast MSM conspiracy actually looks like.

It it, like, some sort of secretive cabal where they meet monthly or even weekly in a dark, abandoned warehouse on the waterfront and hash out plans to screw The Donald via coordinated attacks that include manipulation of the news, suppression of evidence of The Donald's lovable side, and complete and utter control over the polling practices of no fewer than 15 independent organizations? Do they wear dark hoods and have a secret handshake too?

The level of Machiavellian madness necessary to accomplish such a feat of all-encompassing media manipulation would be mind boggling. Heck, even FoxNews shows Hillery 10 points ahead of Trump, and the Rasmussen Reports, which is arguably even more biased than Fox, shows Hillary enjoying a consistent 3-point lead over The Donald.

You place the blame for The Donald's smoking, burning, spiraling into irrelevance everywhere except where it obviously belongs.

Occam's Razor time: "Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected."

In the case of The Donald, the evidence is clear. It's not MSM. It's not the pollsters. It's not PACs. It's not the DNC. It's not even Hillary.

It's 100% The Donald's own fault just by being him.

Trump read from teleprompters like the print was a little too small for him, moving his head left and right like he was watching a very, very slow ping-pong match.

To the people still professing support for this ridiculous man - what do you think of this line:

"In the old days, when we won a war, to the victor belonged the spoils. Instead, all we got from Iraq and our adventures in the Middle East was death destruction and tremendous financial loss.” Troops could have been stationed at oil fields and stabilized the country,"

I thought The Iraq War! and Iraq War II - Electric Bugaloo! was something other than "blood for oil." Well, was it? Do you agree with this Trumpian idea of what war should be?

I'd think even worse of anyone who did, but the very idea of isolated troops protecting oil fields? Why not just paint glow-in-the-dark targets on them as well?

Now, I know Trump never thinks twice, but he READ that off a teleprompter! OTHER people, professional Republican speechwriters, wrote such a thing and expect, probably justifiably, that it appeals to the average Trump voter.

Are the Trump people here just as poor at thinking things out?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... "but she's the devil!"

How do you look at yourselves w/o laughing... or crying?

@Texas A&M Aggie

Sorry, almost everyone agrees that the polling has only become more accurate in predicting the outcome at this point in a race. I actually agree that the media overstates Clinton's lead more often than not, but she does indeed have a lead. The deception in the media lies in their ignoring of the third-party candidates who are taking more votes away than ever before, seemingly more from Clinton.

"We will defeat radical Islamic terrorism just as we have defeated every threat we faced at every age,” said Trump.

Didn't he previously say that US leaders had been 'weak' for too long and lament that countries no longer respected their authority?

I think Trump is now targeting "we americans like to kick ass" voters, patriots adept of the 'shoot first then talk' philosophy. Scary thing is there are plenty of them.

I did say alleged. Manafort's statement reads like every guilty party I've ever seen, and let's face it he's worked for regimes pretty contrary to American values (you can include Trump's insane candidacy there too). Trump is on record contradicting himself many times on his relationship with the Russian gangster Putin. People deserve answers not more screeching about Hillary's medical records.

Any and all speculation is warranted until Trump gives the American people the transparency they deserve - like every other candidate before him and releasing his tax returns. He isn't going to do this because what is in there must be so damaging it must be hidden at all costs.

Did he pay zero taxes? Give zero to war vets? Or is he so far in hock to the Russians that his candidacy should be halted on the grounds of national security? Or is it actually worse?

Only one way to clear the matter up....

the rich establishment types who over throw governments and assassinate their opposition. Hillary will assassinate Trump?

The good news: Trump Has To Turn His Campaign Around, and Fast

-- http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Aug16.html#item-4

Quick summary: "...if Hillary Clinton holds her national and state leads for another week, she will have a 90% chance of winning."

One. More. Week.

Trump has only one more week to 'pivot.' But I think we alllikely know Trump ain't gonna 'pivot.' In fact, I'm tempted to predict that after the sound rejection of this 'serious speech' he is getting today from across the political spectrum, by this late this evening he's gonna be back trolling on Twitter and whining about the 'rigged' election. I don't like to make predictions, so I'll just say it is highly likely. Shall we say close to but not beyond a reasonable doubt...? Yeah, sure. Let's say that.

One more thing. Kinda imporant

Ossan represents a certain kind of conservative that the Angry Yam has gone out his way to drive away: the economically and socially moderate conservative hawkish nationalist. This kind of conservative has been up till now what can be thought of as a cement bag Republican. That is, given the choice between a Democrat and a cement bag with an R painted on it, they'll vote for the cement bag. But now, for some inexplicable and stupid reasons that The Donald himself only known, if at all, The Donald has gone out of his way to drive these reliable Republican voters away. How? By tTrump has

treating our alliances with NATO and Japan into a protection racket

-- praised long-term foreign strongmen enemies, like Putin

-- invited Russia to spy and interfere in our election

-- floating the idea that we'd threaten to default on our national debt

-- generally treated foreign policy like some kind of truth or dare game. "I was being sarcastic." Next day " "Not really."

lack of knowledge of basic foreign affairs

-- Overall showing little interest and no knowledge of how the world actually works.

As I've pointed out numerous times, no responsible person could possibly consider handing over US foreign policy to this demonstrably unqualified by all measures man. I'd say, about 5% of the Republican electorate are one issue guys when it comes to national security, or at least its a deal breaker if a candidate is not up to snuff.

And that, my friends, is the election.

Toshiko san

Your English is fine, don't worry ! SLand was referring to another post.

Nothing wrong with that. Better than shooting up the Chicago neighborhood Need extended checks at gun shows due to the loophole. Then there will be less shootings in Chicago neighborhoods. Also, a general ban on semi autos since their only practical use is mass murder.

China who keeps competently stealing What are they stealing?

LFR - It's nonsense, however titillating.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/15/ivanka-trump-socializes-with-wendi-deng/

"If it's too good to be true, run a search - or at least check Snopes.com" is my Net motto. They sometimes err, but only in being too generous when lies cannot be disproved with evidence.

:)

It's nonsense, however titillating.

Awwww. C'mon. Let me bask in one indulgence while this meltdown occurs. Just one...?

" (!)"

"The deception in the media lies in their ignoring of the third-party candidates who are taking more votes away than ever before, seemingly more from Clinton."

"Better than shooting up the Chicago neighborhood."

"Why not cozy up to Russia- it is less bad than China who keeps competently stealing."

"The elite establishment are shaking in their Armani slippers"

The results of a Trump Presidency, now fortunately for all life on earth next to impossible, are perfectly reflected by the comments made in support of him, both here and,... well,... everywhere they appear. At least the open racism isn't allowed -dog-whistles only. But the same lies passed around and around and around.

I wish that this regurgitating of lies and ugliness could be explained by simple stupidity or many people indeed having a very, very bad memory, but most clearly have lost touch with even a passing notion of their basic humanity. They want to win, but even more to see those they envy or hate dragged down, ruined, even worse things.

Rarely can a candidate so perfectly mirrored the ugliness, pettiness, meanness, cruelty, and humorlessness of his supporters, and supporters far better informed than, say, Wallace in '68. There's no real excuse for any of them though I have some measure of pity for more than a few. They're so stubborn in the fearfulness.

Actually, only one such candidate comes to mind. That turned out rather badly for that particular country, as history tells.

Sanders should've been the nominee, not sum washed-up hasbeen.

Wow. She was just Secretary of State. If she's a washed-up has-been, then what does that make Trump with his failed hotels, casinos, magazines, and, (ahem!) "university?"

When Trump organized fund raising event at Trump Tower in NY, there were unusual GOP wealthy donors were waging at the door. His campaign. manager yelled .'Get lost'. Since then money dried out. Some of wealthy people are supporting Hillary, Needs tō shuffle worker Ss

building (unwanted) bridges Can you explain this?

open borders What is Trump going to do about this?

weirdos You hate gay people?

Trump's election campaign begins now (!)

I think he replaced speech advisers, He did not hell too much today. Is GOP replacing him with Pence? pence defy Trump and will show his income tax return which VP candidate does not need to show.

@stranger: are you questioning any of mine? Can't think someone write worse than my foreign thinking. poll. NY H 57% T 20% myforeign

Trump, viewpoint of the rest of the world is ROTFL. Make yourselves a laughing stock USA VOTE TRUMP.

Madverts- It's still not well-confirmed, however dirty it looks. Trump Inc.'s relations with the Putin Gang are suspicious as heck, but I'm waiting for better evidence than some "entries" in a "black ledger," however incriminating.

Did GOP give up Trump. They are concentrate on Congressman's and Senator races

So true and evil that you can't reply logic

I don't understand your post..

Some of wealthy people are supporting Hillary

But also . . . some of the EBTer's and mostly Latino / Black voter bases are supporting HRC too. T'was the same thing when Edwards/Kerry campaign got slammed. Obama promised "changed" . . . sure glad that I didn't buy that lemon.

The Democrats love selling lemons, building (unwanted) bridges, giving out EBT, free lunches, open borders & letting weirdos use "whichever" restroom they want to use. Too ridiculous.

Why not cozy up to Russia- it is less bad than China who keeps competently stealing. People get it wrong that it is just an idea with Islam- Islam is so based on having a state and hierarchy just look at their bow Mecca not god.

WC626, exactly.

I wish the GOP has used "extreme vetting" on their presidential candidates.

HeH, that's a knee slapper. . . as if HRC was not just investigated by the FBI. Her and all her (D) & special interests groups influencing the national media to boost her up. Sanders should've been the nominee, not sum washed-up hasbeen.

Trump has raised 91 million. 3% from pacs and super pacs. Explains everything in a nutshell. The elite establishment are shaking in their Armani slippers. I wonder how Hillarys fundraising numbers would like? Probably the total opposite.

The Republican nominee, who is tanking in the polls -- article

If that statement was even remotely accurate, Mrs. Clinton ought to be leading in every poll by double or even triple digits at this point in the election cycle.

The true indicator of popularity can been seen in the number of people to turn out to the candidate's rallies. Mr. Trump draws tens of thousands. Mrs. Clinton draws tens of dozens. . . .

Think about how many of y’all go to gun shows, NASCAR, tractor pulling and monster truck events.

Nothing wrong with that. Better than shooting up the Chicago neighborhood.

What does that mean? She negatively raised 91 million?

Nope. 91% is from pacs. Or do you not read the MSM? You know, the rich establishment types who over throw governments and assassinate their opposition.

end the U.S. policy of “nation building” and called for a “new approach” in partnership with foreign allies to “halt the spread of radical Islam.”

WOW! Quite a big comment. No surprise the warmongering lefties somehow skipped over this one.

@Leila,

And the left-leaning MSM opinion poll takers have already been caught oversampling democrats. More importantly, people will tell pollsters who robo-call them at home they are for one candidate and wind up voting for the other candidate on Election Day. . . .