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PTownsend
In her imagined community made up of the hard of thinking.
And what's frightening is they (and actually all of their fellow US Americans) have easy access to military grade weapons, including semi-automatic 50 calibre rifles and handguns. What's even more frightening is many within this group use their private armories to threaten anyone, saying 'come and take it'.
Madverts
Brave Republicans voted after all for those on terror no-fly lists to be able to continue to purchase as many semi-automatic guns as they fancy. It only makes sense.
The GOP are closet Daesh supporters. As Donald Judas Trump's race-baiting war shows.
And let's not forget his family fortune came from selling the ashes of Jews and Christians burnt at the stake by the Nazi's.
CrazyJoe
Purposely attract and then feed the gullible, the ignorant, and the bigoted a steady diet of hate and fear for a decade and what do you expect to happen?? Donald Trump is simply saying plainly what GOP candidates have said for years using code words. The Republican Party is in shambles. It has become a cult of hate and fear and Donald is the cult leader.
kcjapan
If the Liberal Media can be believed, the Republicans are well represented in their faith and allegiance to Donald J. Trump, American television personality.
We read:
How dare these pitiful detractors question the rulings and demands of Donald J. Trump, American television personality?
It may be feared some deception is afoot in the scientific polling of the Reuters/Ipsos.
Many here have made clear, Donald J. Trump, television personality, isn't the universal choice of the Republican Party.
OH! That Liberal Media!
Well, there they go again. Misrepresenting the kindly, fair and wise Republicans of American Politics.
How unfair to represent the cavalcade of condemnations of Donald J. Trump, American television personality, are somehow cheered by the GOP Shia-Tea.
FizzBit
Oh yeah! Here we go again on the rubberneck merry-go-round of who can insult Trump the best. The establishment and their lackeys are running scared to their keyboards as we speak. KCJapan has probably woken out of his alcohol slumber just as this was posted.
Isn't it obvious enough that Islame needs to go through some kind of enlightenment? What better way to force their hand.
On the other hand, Isn't it also obvious that the west has been f$$king around in the ME for decades now and they are perfectly justified in seeking retribution?
And in the end, the discussion should be about oil and gas resources, or is that too heavy a topic here? Maybe so. So let's just keep it simple with the dem/rep rubberneck merry-go-round.
SuperLib
Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/
Texas A&M Aggie
I fail to see why Mr. Trump's proposal concerning a complete moratorium on immigration/travel of Muslims from terrorist countries is not responsible. Although I am a moderate and highly doubt I'll cast my vote for Mr. Trump next year, I do support his stance because any other proposal would depend upon this government's properly vetting people from those areas. Only Obama, the attorney general, Mrs. Bill Clinton, American regressives, RINOs and non-Americans (whom have no dog in this fight) believe that option will be successful. . . .
FizzBit
Posting an article from the Washington Post "establishment" just shows how desperate and mean you, and them, really are.
kcjapan
Well? How is it then that the ignorant are easily led? Sounds like more elitist East Coast Liberalism is denigrating, again, the wise and kindly ignorant who well know every detail and mouthings of their dictator of bigotry.
Typical. Another Liberal appeals to reason and science for their twisted questioning of television personality Donald J. Trump's army of gun toting, hysterical and threatening Republicans who deliver the nation of Washington into the stern and unquestionable guidance of Donald J. Trump.
Good luck with all that college know-it-alls. As wise, multi degreed, Rick Santorum once said:
“President Obama wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob.” - Troy, Mich., Feb. 25, speaking to a tea party group.
source: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/10-best-quotes-from-santorum-074998#ixzz3u3lPl041
Thankfully, Donald J. Trump's army will put an end to that, to save America and restore its Greatness.
Wc626
@Fizz. .. I don't know which was worse: The fact that he used "bold" font in his post or the "link" provided. Sheesh . . . .
nath
I'm not surprised that this didn't hurt his ratings. He has his core, that feel the same way he does, and they will support him no matter what he says, because he's 'sticking it to the mainstream media'. But the more messed up stuff he says, the more he will alienate everyone else.
TheRat
Why, Fizzbit? It is a "conservative" newspaper!!
5SpeedRacer5
Trump IS the Republican party.
It is a truth that people are going to accept more and more in the months ahead. They won't get rid of him and they don't have the will or ability to control him. Clearly he is giving voice to impulses that the GOP leadership and most members don't want to admit, much less talk about, but viscerally, he is their man. And they will go wherever he tells them to go.
It's really that simple.
FizzBit
Or the more he will wake everyone else up from the MSM/Sesame Street "this is how you MUST feel" corporate psy-ops that will NEVER touch the subject of the petrodollar or the Shia oil and gas pipeline deals which is the reason behind all our ME MIC psychotic escapades.
nath
Bigotry only wakes up bigots.
I agree with you on the vested interests of oil in the middle east though. But Trump isn't the one who will wake the people from that. You don't wake people up by using alienation, you only end up creating more alienation.
MarkG
As we see in recent years extreem Muslims from the ME and N. Africa do not tolerate other religious beliefs. And while Trump says almost everything magnified and intentionally controversial he is playing the political game his way and remarkably it's working. He's playing the game and getting all the attention.
Hypothetically if he were to be the nominee (and he won't be) his tactics will change dramatically and he would play patchwork to regain alienated voters.
And also to top it off, Hillary has lots of targets to debate with from any clever republican which can sink her ship real fast. At least the GOP has options at the present time.
FizzBit
@the rat
The WPost has been attacking Trump since the beginning. Even to go after his SNL performance. Pathetic.
5SpeedRacer5
Mark says Trump won't be the nominee and that the GOP has options at the present time. Most respectfully, no, and ... what options?
In September, those sentiments would have been reasonable and mainstream, but in September, when everyone was doing Hitler analogies, it occurred to me that all Trump needs is a crisis or two, and I was thinking it would be Ukraine or China, not San Bernardino.
Anyway, Trump had his crisis delivered up and he came out the tough guy. That is all he needs. One or two more crises? You can bet somebody is already cooking them up. They will be served hot.
Now to the problem at hand. How can Trump NOT be the nominee? I predict he is going to get stronger over the next year, and he will get even better coverage and financing. The nomination is his to give away, and I don't see him giving it away. Do you? Does anybody? Bbbbbut the GOP has options. No. No it doesn't. Not a single candidate is going to risk upsetting the Donald, for one. And for two, if the Donald is forced to run as an independent, the GOP loses the election, no fooling. One is left to ask... will the GOP choose winning with Trump, or getting a guaranteed loss without him? I know the answer to that question.
That is the way this is going to play out.
nath
Same with every race/religion/ethnic group. Why the need to single out Muslims?
MarkG
Cruz, Rubio and I think the GOP would like Bush. He has the bundle of bucks. Carson is fading and will continue.
Dems.....Sanders. Very liberal and a US fiscal suicide if elected.
Serrano
“He’s really saying what everybody else is feeling,”
"In her imagined community made up of the hard of thinking."
But she's not imagining Trump's lead, is she?
FizzBit
I disagree. I don't think he's a bigot. He's running for president and using the last 3 decades of CNN/FOX/etc corporate dumbing down of the nation against them. I think it's brilliant, in a bad way. But if this is what it takes to break the establishments back, so be it.
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BTW, I didn't junk you.
bass4funk
That's because Democrats and Liberals are hypocrites.
No, Trump is running as a Republican....supposedly...
Nor should you control FREE speech or thought, something that liberals could take a page or two and learn from.
If that means, blocking that cackling woman from taking the White House, I would vote for Mickey Mouse.
It's really that simple.
So then why do liberals engage in constant ad hominem attacks??
MarkG
StrangerlandDEC. 12, 2015 - 10:09AM JST @Stranger.....yes, of course the are a minority but the blend with the majority
Same with every race/religion/ethnic group. Why the need to single out Muslims?
The difference is overwhelmingly risky to overlook the extremists who would gladly die in the process of killing others. You can't believe they are like other religious extremists. 100,000 to 1 likelihood a Muslim extremist will kill others compared to any other religious extremist.
nath
Again, how is this different to extremists of other religions/races/ethnicities?
Prove that please. It's one of those things the bigots spout, but with no actual basis in reality.
PTownsend
I agree with @FzzB's earlier comments about MENA and oil, and think that the GOP, and in particular Bush because of his family's historical connections with Gulf ruling families, will back any candidate that keeps the oil giants in charge.
Trump is running as a Republican - actually - and clearly is favoured by a majority of them.
MarkG
How many suicide bombers do we read about weekly? How many Christians have been murdered under ISIS? How many innocent live were taken by extremist groups in the past ten years? Wars aside.
Now, replace that with any other religeon or race. Who is the problem? Reality is crystal clear for most. Somehow you ether refuse to see it or are just stubborn.
nath
It's all the MSM.
But in all seriousness, quantify it. None of this 'I read it in the newspaper and it scared me' justifications, show some real numbers.
PTownsend
How many Muslims have been murdered by Daesh? How many Sunni have killed how many Shia? How many Sunni have killed how many Sunni?
If people reduce this mess, which I think was started by western resource grabbers, to just a war of ideologies then I think you're missing the key part: it's a war about who gets the black gold. Now because the invaders have been in MENA so long, it's become a resource and ideology based war.
Get the invading armies out of MENA and I think eventually the ideological war will fade away.
Wc626
@MarkG. I wish my president (obama) would call it what it is, "Extreme / Radical Islam." Or that he at least recognize that we are "at war" with those kinds.
Yet he deploys a small group of specialized force- yes "boots" on the ground- to get a handle on a threat he "thought" was "contained." What a buffoon.
nath
Why? What does it change?
We aren't. We are invaders in their lands.
kcjapan
The comment that Donald J. Trump, television personality, has earnest support behind his denigration of the People of Mexico (rapists and drug dealers in his announcement of candidacy for bigot in chief apparently); Believers in the faith of Muhammad (a unique and studied wisdom of the mono-theism shared by Christians and our brothers in Israel) and the reports of the Liberal Media that confirms the adulation the Republican Party holds for his documented commandments.
Point being, it is inexcusable to suggest anyone agrees with this bigot.
It is also impossible to criticize the beliefs and commitment of the American GOP Shia-Tea in their proto-religion.
Rest this criticism finally in the vehement and documented statements of Donald J. Trump, television personality.
This sick tiny man has defined the GOP Shia-Tea, and now the Republican Party in the eyes of the global community, and they are his children who will wander in the desert of hate some forty years to finally take from civilization the last gasp of reality and ascend to the heaven of a really, really nice golf course where ignorant dolts carry the clubs of degenerate racists.
(Luckily just about the time George W. Bush's seven trillion war on the world is paid off by the American Taxpayer)
So, there's still time for hope.
And maybe a vote for something other than an idiot's vision of perpetual racism and bigotry. That is clearly asking a whole heck of a lot from the Republicans who seemingly 'Love the Trump'
5SpeedRacer5
This is an exchange between Bass4 Funk and me.
ME. "Clearly he is giving voice to impulses that the GOP leadership and most members don't want to admit, much less talk about, but viscerally, he is their man. And they will go wherever he tells them to go.
Bass: If that means, blocking that cackling woman from taking the White House, I would vote for Mickey Mouse. It's really that simple."
OK. I accept that. And you might very well be a representative of the GOP spirit. But what does that say about you? Hillary is already controlling you and your politics to the point of spite. This is the same kind of logic that says that the best way to defeat Al Qaeda is to surrender just about every freedom you have. This is the logic that merely blocking and hindering any Obama policy must be good for the nation. It makes tons of sense to a certain segment of America, but it is zombieAmerica, isn't it? How can that be reasonable?
I mean, bring it down, and you are really saying that living in a theocracy, with few human rights, xenophobia, a tiny federal government, etc. wold all be ok as long as Hillary is not your President. You can call that a false dichotomy if you want, but it is no more false than saying Mickey Mouse represents your interests.
In summary: "whatever." I said Trump represents the GOP, and that the GOP would rather embrace Trump than be a guaranteed loser in 2016, and you agree.
Can I go further? I daresay that for you, you would go for Trump even if you thought he would not win, but if he merely gave the GOP the best chance. And that is amazing. Sacrifice the party, the nation, whatever... for Trump. That's bona fide fanaticism. He has given you and the party nothing, but he has your vote locked up. I think a lot of people feel that way. Just willing to bet it all on a TV personality. How can the party and society accommodate such people?
Wc626
This why his statements are justified. This is why muslims both "peaceful" or "radical" should just stay in the ME or stay stranded in Eastern Europe. There was hope at one time, but the terrorists in Paris & Tashfeen Malik (who was described as a "devout" muslim) sank their ship. Enough.
PTownsend
@WC his is why muslims both "peaceful" or "radical" should just stay in the ME
And of course I'm sure you know that the majority of Muslims don't live in the ME or for that matter MENA.
Who's we? The Trump supporters? If you check the figures reported in Fox, Trump supporters represent a portion of the Republican party which is a portion of the US population - not the whole US. Are you saying you and your imagined community? Are you saying you are offering to volunteer yourself to the war, real or imagined?
Wc626
Yeah. Indonesia too. And all the "boat people being rejected by Australia. Nice!
And the one attending funerals in southern California. They want some "payback."
I'm too old for that. Been to the ME a few times though. If you aint' in UAE or Bahrain- its a dump. Thank god for the "oil" cause thats all those godforsaken lands have.
smithinjapan
Of COURSE he still has their support and is still in the lead -- he espouses core Republican values: whites are superior, men are superior, the rich are superior, all the rest should serve or die off, whichever helps serve the aforementioned superior whites.
That is what Republicans support. And before some of you try to deny it, might I remind you that those are the things Trump espouses, and he still maintains a dominant lead. So you can't say it is not true.
PTownsend
If you've been in the military and know anything about combat, you know full well most of the jobs are behind the lines where there are plenty of possibilities for old men and women in the rear with the gear. Volunteer! If people want war, they should volunteer their services. Directly and indirectly.
Do you know this for a fact? Are you a spokesman for them?
Jimizo
"If that means, blocking that cackling woman from taking the White House, I would vote for Mickey Mouse."
Come on, you can't blame her for cackling as she watches Trump and the GOP reaching new levels of lunacy.
COL! ROFC!
Laguna
Apparently, Carson is angry that Republican leaders are preparing for a "brokered convention" and has threatened to quit the party. A convention beginning without a candidate who has locked up enough delegates to be assured the nomination may be called "brokered" or "disputed," and his choice of the former (though it is more common) reveals his distrust of the GOP establishment.
While the establishment claims its recent moves on this front are simply to prepare organizers and brass for a rare situation, Carson (and likely Trump) suspect the moves are designed to facilitate coalescence of non-Trump delegates behind a single challenger who would have entered the convention with lesser grassroots but more establishment support.
The whole thing is unveiling as a combination of a circular firing squad and Laurel and Hardy, with all sides exclaiming, "Here's another fine mess you've gotten us into!" - and they're all right, and they deserve it. Ironically, even if the establishment managed to swing support to Cruz (the only candidate GOP nativists could stomach), they'd still end up with a unelectable nominee and a bitter, broken party to boot.
nath
It's a pit of vipers.
turbotsat
You need to check your mailbox. As of yesterday and as dutifully forwarded by the NYT and several other outlets, 'Hillary no longer thinks Trump is a laughing matter.'
SuperLib
Trump is the Republican Party. His supporters finally feel their racist views no longer need a filter and that's why they like him and keep him dominating the polls. Unless his supporters change (they will fade out due to demographics) he will continue to be the face of the party.
I don't remember Republicans here calling for a ban on Muslims before Trump said it, but now they all do. Perhaps they feel more comfortable being honest now that they have Trump. It makes you wonder what else they are holding back. Maybe bringing back segregation?
Kapuna
"Trump is running as a Republican - actually - and clearly is favored by a majority of them." Not true since he has, for now, a bit over 30% favor-ability. 50.1% would be the majority.
bass4funk
Not by the establishment he's not, not even close.
As sad as that is, I care about America and Americans and I want to have strict oversight when it comes to refugees and illegals, they don't have a constitutional right to come to our country and I don't want more people to die.
What on Earth are you talking about, dude?? Seriously......
But how will they start paying for the $38 Trillion of what Obama racked up?
Hmmm, not so sure about that.
But seriously, how do we know that Trump is either a Bigot or a racist?
I'm not a Republican.
That's pretty much what Obama is forcing us to do, enter gun sales!
Seems like his lack of policy is making less sense to the larger segment, the segment that deals with reality.
We are already living in an Atheist, intolerant society with very little human rights, with lots of racism and overly gigantic out of control, over taxed, out of control spending and wasteful entitlement as well as dysfunctional government, a government and a president that is unwilling to compromise on virtually any level.
Not entirely sure about that.
I don't want Trump but it's not even an open discussion if I have to make a decision for which of these clowns I want in the White House, I'm not going with the cackling woman
Yes
Liberals do it all the time, nothing different here.
Just stop! You guys would never vote for anyone of the GOP candidates because you all know that pipe dream of a progressive utopia would come to a screeching halt. You guys will go off the cliff for Obama and you all know it.
True and Obama gave us nothing but s*** over the last 7 years and the people have had enough of him, Dems and their policies that have completely crippled the country and eroded our fundamental basic freedoms and replaced it with being PC.
It's called frustration with this administration and with the overall political establishment.
Ahhh and how about the Democratic values: fascism, open borders, capitulation to anyone that attacks us, Blacks and all minorities play in the victimization card and the grievance and compensation card, being the party of FREE stuff, stealing other peoples money, the poor shouldn't work, the party of refusing to create jobs, the party of giving huge entitlements, the party of astronomical overspending and heavy taxation and punishing success and vilifying accumulated wealth and to create an unequal, chip on the shoulder society.
Many, but not all. The vast majority of don't.
Yes, it is true, but for the wrong reasons. The people are tired of this administration and they are tired of this president and they see that this president will not do anything to protect the nation and he is weak and the people are flocking to Trump because you sound strong right or wrong.
Judging by the recent FBI findings, her cackling is turning slowly into a big wet sweat.
smithinjapan
bass4funk: " I don't want more people to die."
So long as they're not Muslims -- those ones aren't people, right bass? Because that's what you're saying.
nath
Hah! You do have a sense of humor!
And yet you keep preaching actions that will result in more people dying.
bass4funk
I'm talking about radical jihadist Islam. Yes, that's correct.
A.N. Other
Love it! Trump has a pair bigger than the spherical granite finials on top of my old grandma's gate. God bless the 1st amendment. God bless the Founding Fathers God bless America!
smithinjapan
bass4funk: "I'm talking about radical jihadist Islam. Yes, that's correct."
Really? Because I just asked you about Muslims -- so thanks for saying "yes". It's pretty clear you support Trump's lunacy, and that you don't really consider Muslims to be 'American' or Muslims dying to be of any consequence.
And yet, you're not at all against Christians like the man who killed people, including a police officer, at the Planned Parenting rampage; a man whom many Americans also support, although behind closed doors.
"Just stop! You guys would never vote for anyone of the GOP candidates because you all know that pipe dream of a progressive utopia would come to a screeching halt. You guys will go off the cliff for Obama and you all know it."
Excuse me?? This, from a guy who clearly said that you hate Donald Trump but would vote for him instead of the Democrats no matter what? And now I think you are actually starting to LIKE Trump given some of his rants lately.
"I'm not a Republican."
hahaha... yeah. You've also said that you are "not partisan", despite being the most partisan person on this site.
Madverts
It's still ever so nice to see Republicans and, heh, "independent" conservatives now being openly bigoted and racist thanks to their new Führer Trump.
Honesty is always the best policy!
PTownsend
Could you please list just one 'fundamental basic' (sic) freedom that has been eroded? Does the PC that has replaced your basic fundamental freedom mean US Americans are no longer able to make bigoted statements?
1glenn
IMO, the three craziest among all of the GOP crazies are Trump, Cruz, and Carson. In a recent poll, the three of them combined got the votes of over 60% of all Republican respondents - those likely to vote in a Republican primary.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary
What does it say about the state of the Republican Party when most of their members seem to think that the crazier one is, the more qualified one is to be President?
serendipitous
Imagine Donald's first trip to Saudi Arabia as president!! Luckily, that will never happen. The longer the GOP show goes on, the better for Democrats. Trump's 35% support must be pretty embarrassing for Jeb Bush, Cruz and the others.
PTownsend
Actually the only freedom I've ever heard you and the other NRA supporters mention is the freedom to buy guns. Are you still free to purchase a 50 calibre semi-automatic rifle or handgun? Out of curiosity, why - beyond US laws allow it - would any civilian want or need a gun that fires a 50 calibre round? Whale hunting?
Madverts
They're insane in the membrane.
Trump himself is a moron. That's why he's the perfect inmate to lead the Moron Asylum.
There's no need for intelligence when you can shout the loudest and blame brown people.
SuperLib
You say that a lot. I don't like Trump but....I don't support Trump but....I don't want Trump but... So why not? Why don't you support Trump? Let's test your courage. Bubble dwellers are trained to keep their personal opinions silent.
kabukideath
Trump’s comments are being taken out of context, he is not advocating a ban on Muslims forever. He is saying US should ban Muslims from entering the country until we have a handle on how to vet them properly. Why is that so bad? Look at France and all of Europe. The gunmen in Paris indicated they were able to come and go freely without French authorities even knowing they were in the country. Given the incompetence of the current administration I'm all in favor of making sure we know what we're doing before we let people in who could be terrorists.
The attraction of his comments lies in the fact that he is the complete antithesis to Obama of whom I am heartily sick of hearing. I'm not alone in that.
nath
And that somehow changes something?
There is already a vetting process for both refugees and immigrants.
Because they were French!
kabukideath
With over 11 million illegals in the country this process is a shining success.
And as such they could have legally entered the U.S. with nothing more than their passports.
Wc626
No. But if Tashfeen shot my sister, brother, or friends I'd want "those kinds of people" out of my country man!
Madverts
Only through the ESTA waiver who's purpose is to pre-screen every single individual entering the US.
I've just had to wait for hours just to get back into UK from France in the Eurotunnel. It's called common sense.
No place for the racist idiocy proposed by head lunatic Republican inmate Donald Judas Trump!
nath
And you think banning Muslims is going to stop illegal Mexicans?
And?
You are proposing discriminating against 1.5 billion people because of the actions of a few.
NG12345
Holy heck! i was just trolling around when i said #Trump4president2k16. But man, this is actually happening! LMFAO! Americans just gone nut! Hillary and now Trump. 2016 is gonna be a hella exciting year for the world :3. God bless america, cuz you're gonna need it!
Wc626
The Mexicans are here to stay. For better or worse. The illegal ones, who are criminals, or the ones demanding "DMV" driver licenses are pests.
I think most americans are willing to give them a benefit of the doubt in some cases . . . . compared to muslims and or young bearded islamic refugees.
Madverts
WC,
The poll I saw showed only 25% of you were racist bigots on that score. Hardly a majority.
How long do you think Trump is calling for Muslim's to be easily identifiable for the minority of Americans cowering in terror behind their doors armed to the teeth WC?
Do you think some yellow stars might do the trick?
Heh. This is the limelight you've all stepped in. Unthinkable only a few weeks ago but there you all are...
kabukideath
I'll remind you of this statement next time you propose a gun ban. All I am proposing is a better vetting process, and yes, aimed at young Muslims.
FizzBit
Funny, whenever stories are posted on JT about Sanders, Hillary or even Obama, there is no way near the level of lies and hateful words posted on here as there are against Trump. I call Hillary a warmonger, but I'd never say she was a moron.
Reminds me of high school and how all the popular girls used to talk about the boys that recently dumped them. Is that this the level of your intelligence?
Wc626
Don't matter none. Mexicans are catholics, not muslims. Catholics are not as dangerous as Tashfeen Malik. Catholics would NEVER do what "muslims" did in Paris. Oh yeah, there a few Catholics in that country too.
. . . . To islamic martyrs like Tashfeen: "Dying aint' much of a Living."
Madverts
WC,
A Christian terrorist shot up an abortion clinic the same week.
Blubbering about baby parts when you're committing mass murder instead of Allah just means you're insane either way to us non-Bubble dwellers.
kazetsukai
During elections, it is not necessarily the details of what one says, but the "intent", the "emotion", the "simpleness", the "directness" and the "impact" of what was said that makes a difference. Take morals, ethics, and all other idealism aside, the key is to get and keep people's and media's attention till such time as specifics and details are needed. Mt. trumps is doing that masterfully.
That is exactly what Mr. Obama did. He said nothing of value except use the word "change" without saying what that change will be or how that change will affect the people. And by his rhetoric and action actually sent messages to the entire world that the USA shall NOT participate in world events as a leader or a police force of any kind.
Mr. Trump uses the same technique, but even better, since he is "impacting" everyone in the world with his direct and clear message which does not leave any doubt that he is a "realist" and will take "clear and effective" but "practical" action immediately. That basically will put the entire world on call.
Because the people of the USA also seem to show the same or similar thought (by the pole numbers), the world leaders are definite are paying attention. That is much more than what Mr. Obama has done during his entire Presidency. In fact is seem to "appear" that Mr. Obama by his action and inaction was actually "coordinating" the growth of conflicts and chaos from Iran's nuclear program to ISIS/ISIL and the divisive weakening of the USA. Although it has forced US allies to do more for themselves, including Japan, that does not help the USA or any of its allies at all against the religious and racial war being raged against the world.
nath
That's because Hillary isn't a moron, and Trump is. And no one needs to lie about Trump, because the truth about him is already so bad. And if you think garbage isn't thrown around about Hillary, you must have missed the 20 or however many Benghazi inquiries they've had that have found nothing. Same with the email issue - that has found nothing.
That said, Sanders is the man.
Simon Foston
You have heard of the IRA, haven't you? Donald Trump was very friendly with one of their closest associates a while back.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/09/donald-trump-ireland-sinn-fein-terrorism
nishikat
"That's because Democrats and Liberals are hypocrites."
But Obama is better than Trump
(1) Deportations are up under Obama and Jeb Bush said it is reversing anyway (Reagan inked 3M green card amnesty)
(2) Obama kept taxes low and Trump wants to raise them.
Swami Vas
The comment made by Republican Presidential hopeful Donald Trump was not abnormal in the given circumstances and as such it was not expected to have an impact on his popularity as a leading Republican candidate for the next elections despite the sharp criticism of what he said by the Democratic hopeful Hilary Clinton!
SuperLib
So will we ever get around to discussing the details of this ban or should we assume there really is no plan? People here seem to like talking about their irrational fear of Muslims but they never go into detail about just how they will decide who is Muslim and can't come in.
I'm guessing there will be no coherent answer but thought I would ask anyway.
kazetsukai
As mentioned Mr. Trump is a masterful communicator that by what he has said got the entire world to "react" and take "action",quickly and hopefully effectively. If anything he "woke up" the entire US to be not just aware but "vigilant" and start taking immediate action to resolve the immigration, the border, the security, the communication, and related problems. In the same light, his words "forced" all people including Muslims to "respond".
He in fact brought the "immediate" problem to the forefront which Mr. Obama "by intent" and the legislators "by inability" allowed to slide by. If Mr. Obama used every "tragedy" to "preach" morality and America's wrongdoing, Mr. Trump just simply said "take immediate and practical ACTION".
Now the entire nation and the world has a "view" as to the quality and effectiveness of the President an d the Legislators, including the other candidates. Others talk of could, would, and should with all their legalistic and idealistic rationale without any real practical time frame for action. The key is "take action NOW", not tomorrow.
Talk about why the media MUST follow him and keep up with him. He did not have to "buy" the media as Mr. Obama did. The media is making money from him and he dos not have to pay for any of it.
edbardoe
This "news service" and all other news outlets have left out half of Trumps proposal. Not a ban, but a pause until we get a better hold on vetting these this class of visitors and refugees. President Carter "banned" Iranians for a time during the hostage crisis on the same basis.
The left wing media (nowadays that is almost ALL media) is so afraid the Trump reflects the will of Americans they must lie continually about his statements.
nishikat
"President Carter "banned" Iranians for a time" Can you tell us more about this "Muslim" passport? It sounds very interesting.
Wc626
Did I say Christian? No, I was talking about "Catholics" who are from Mexico. Git ur apples and oranges in order.
Whenever us conservatives mingle "radical islam" among muslims in general (or vise versa), we get blamed for mixing these two.
But hey- if the shoe fits radicals, it probably fits the "peaceful" muslims who do no often condemn the Paris attacks as much as the west. I wonder why.
SuperLib
This is not the bubble. You will need a lot more than clever vocabulary and anger to be taken seriously here. You can start by forming your own opinions and not cutting and pasting fuzzy right wing talking points.
bass4funk
I support Trump's directness, different from his policy stance.
I care about Americans first and I worry last about the refugees. No one asked Obama to bring these people in.
He was a terrorist, no doubt, but if we make a list of radical Jihadists compared to White males unhinged, the list of radical muslims that have killed and attacked especially the ones in their host countries is extensive.
I sure did, yes, sir!
Depending on which rant you are talking about.
hahaha... yeah. You've also said that you are "not partisan", despite being the most partisan person on this site.
Hey, you can't define me or tell me what or who I am. I think I would no that better. I just call out liberal hypocrisies to remind liberals that there is a reality outside of the unicornverse.
The president being the most partisan president this country has ever seen for one and what's really astonishing is that Obama could care less what the people think. The majority of Americans do not want to take in these refugees and Obama doesn't give a.... You have 32 States where the Governers told the White House NO thank you, but Obama wants to force feed the issue and defy the very people that put him into office.
Which is very important.
God, I sure hope so. But I have enough.
Because I have that right to own one, that's MY choice and MY right. Because I can.
Whoa!! Wait, son! You're all over the place, I don't like Trump as a president, he's not my guy, but I do support his directness, I love it. I love that he doesn't care about being PC or offending other people to make a point. Yes, a lot of what he's says can be over the top, but usually he has a lot of valid points.
The same reason why I would never support Obama or Hillary.
This is why liberals annoy me, they are too scared with upsetting the liberal status quo.
It would if we had a president that would seal the border and knowing Trump, he would do that. You don't have borders, you have NO country. Simple as that. On that alone, he would get my vote.
You're right, she's not a moron, she's a lot worse, but I can't use that kind of colorful salty language on JT, but a few adjective come to mind.
nishikat
"The same reason why I would never support Obama or Hillary." But you like Obama better than Trump because Trump wants to raise taxes but Obama never really did. Obama did a lot of good for the company financially.
"God, I sure hope so. But I have enough." Do you have a machine gun?
"muslims who do no often condemn the Paris attacks" Like how?
SuperLib
So why not vote for him? Is it because of his economic policy? His stance on education? Obviously his hostile bigotry has produced quite a bit of admiration on your part so it can't be that.
I think we all meet bass' definition of non-partisan. He's just "outsmarted" us by saying he isn't.
This is the part of the debate where you lose the energy to defend your points so you say no one is allowed to form an opinion based on the things you've said. Usually sandwiched around comments where you define us all as libs. The response will most likely be "that's right" as you mentally slip out the back door.
kcjapan
Obviously, the Liberal Media has again stooped to rumors and twisting of words. They can't stop the Trump juggernaut with their lies so they should stop it, the lying they do.
As many have pointed out, Donald J. Trump, American television personality, is widely regarded as the best and brightest the Republicans can offer to make America Great again. (Did you know Donald J. Trump is really smart? Trump said so but none of the Liberal Media will publish it every time he says it, that's prejudice by the way.)
The Party of Personal Responsibility has been victim too long of these false reports of international disgust with Donald J. Trump's popularity in the GOP Shia-Tea as he has pointed out only truthful commandments about Mexicans, Muslims and Women, and being really, really smart.
Now, another victim, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has been lied to by the Liberal Media and rightly reacts with abhorrence. (Did you know the Prince isn't an American? So he's not as smart as Trump who is exceptionally smart.)
Obviously, also, there's no way to get the truth out about Donald J. Trump, who was only showing his patriotism by skipping the Vietnam war and demanding the birth certificate of President Obama for some seven long years as part of a campaign playing to the prejudice of the Birther Patriots to protect America and make her Great Again.
Still the Liberal Media keeps mentioning these falsehoods and people are so confused they don't know what to believe.
Luckily Donald J. Trump, American television personality and patriot, will tell them what to believe and if they question him in public he will have them removed and roughed up a little by goons to show how tough a guy Donald J. Trump is. That's how tough a guy like Donald J. Trump is.
That's why everyone Loves the Trump and that's why he's on a rocket ship to the White House that will explode truth all over those smug Liberal Media faces again and again and again. Like a truth rocket ship does.
It may be time to start vetting the Liberal Media more closely by deigning their entry into the 'big tent' of Republican indoctrination sessions, they keep making stuff up about the brain washing that isn't true anyway. Did you know Trump is really, really smart?
PTownsend
So you're saying not one 'fundamental basic' (sic) freedom has been eroded, that whil the president has been in office your freedoms have been secured.
If I read your responses correctly, you're still free to purchase, possess and fire a 50 caliber weapon. To me, and correct me if I'm wrong, that means the US president has preserved your right to own this weapon which has extreme, ridiculously extreme, killing power. Because, as you say, you can. But doesn't it worry you that any of the groups you've previously expressed fear of can also own these viciously destructive weapons? Or are you so equalitarian that you want everyone to own as many as they want? Please tell me what purpose a 50 caliber semi automatic might have. I could understand mammoth hunting, but am pretty sure they're extinct.
kcjapan
Clears the room of living people really easily?
bass4funk
I have my own personal reasons, but I'll say this, you're not going to agree with a candidate on every single issue, this is the very thing that liberals don't understand. You don't have to be in lock step and agree with every issue your candidate supports or opposes. I support Trump when it comes to the issue of immigration and the refugee crisis. We have a horrible weak president, a coward and a president that could care less about our safeties, illegals or shitting down the border.
Trust me, I don't need to outsmart anyone. I just don't believe in lying.
You think so?
So now, I'm the bad guy for speaking the truth?!
Buddy, I have NEVER done that. I'll go to the mat with anyone in any debate or physically. So on that, I assure you, don't have anything to worry about, so we can put those assumptions to rest. Also, I'm a very nice guy. I don't hold grudges and I may find someone's opinion looney, like most progressives, but at the same time, I'd buy anyone a good beer.
I already did. Try again.
This is the reason why Dems are trying to pass through the loophole of creating possible laws to charge the seller, possibly at gun shows or private gun shops, if that happens and a crime is committed and they go after the seller, that would essentially end the 2nd amendment because the sellers would be liable and that would put them out of business, which would make them go underground and sell guns on the Black market just like we had Prohibition back in the days. So yes, they are trying to sneak they way to circumvent the 2nd amendment in a way it doesn't seem too obvious.
No, because, I pack enough heat to thwart any threat that comes my way and I'm also very skilled when it comes to using firearms, so NO.
I could care less what another American wants to purchase for their personal safety. As Americans we all have that right.
You are probably right, but the main thing is! I have the right, that's the only thing that matters.
I agree.
Clinton was a draft dodger as well and the man smoked, but never inhaled.
There is a lot that we don't know about Obama, a lot of his college records are sealed, that does bring a lot of things into question.
FizzBit
@superlib
Please provide us with any links you have in your research to prove kazutsukai is cutting and pasting. He/she is just expressing observations of why Trump is succeeding. And that bothers you? You are one weak and warped individual IMO.
kcjapan
Lovely reading the American blowhards.
As a test of courage it would be a hoot if the author of this gem had the guts to send it in to The White House email for President Obama.
Its clear and powerful message reflects the talent of a seasoned journalist and would likely invite an interview from the local authorities. But that would take real guts and maybe the loss of more than a few firearms, a stretch in the pen and certainly a spot on the 'watch list'.
As it is, it explains why Donald J. Trump can manipulate the mass of tiny minds so impressed with the comical condescension and disgust present in his every utterance. Funny, sad and transparent. But that's why the Republicans Love the Trump!
"Donald Trump held onto his commanding lead in the Republican race for the White House after his call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States was condemned worldwide," . . . mostly because many of them cannot think and hate is the next best thing, obviously.
nishikat
"a lot of his college records are sealed," GWB too
"There is a lot that we don't know about Obama" Such as....?
"They're only strong, or appear to be strong" A Lib killed Osama Bin Laden.
PTownsend
Fact: SEALS started in 1942, President Roosevelt, a Democrat
Fact: Bush 43 was a governor
I have a different perspective on Bush 41. Remember, he and Saddam were partners during the Iran - Iraq war. (Oil, you know) I think Bush 41 went to war to protect the rulers of Kuwait (old family ties to a brutal dictatorship) and US oil companies interests. Bush 41 opened the pandora's box mess we see today.
nishikat
And under a Democrat ST6 killed OBL.
Another famous Dem (Carter) was a Nuclear officer under Rickover who graduated from the Naval Academy
SuperLib
So where do you disagree with Trump?
And be careful....you've found a group more to the right than you are which means they're very soon going to tell you that you aren't a real conservative. It's not going to be pretty.
bass4funk
He should!
I seriously doubt that.
No, it's just the people are tired and fed up with Obama's BS, people see him as weak, pathetic and the people want someone that's strong or someone that personify strength, fortitude and determination and show all of our enemies that the president of the US will use all and every measure to protect the country and its citizens, pure and simple.
Besides being an adjunct professor, what else politically has Obama done besides voting present?
nath
You know I often wonder if you know the truth about how good a president Obama has been, and just lie about it to support party lines, or if you truly believe the lies that are told.
bass4funk
No, I don't. I absolutely do not! But I do think your jokes are almost as funny as Chris Rock.
I would never lie, I don't need to. I'm not Obama.
PTownsend
I'd be greatly appreciative if you could provide some specific examples of times you have told the truth. Unless you're using truth to mean the same thing as opinion. I've read your opinions many times. I've read oblique - at best - responses to questions you've been asked, but never what I call truth. Then again, you have your own dictionary and use words in different ways to what I'm accustomed to.
I'm using this definition for truth: that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
And I've yet to have read an actual response to a question you've been asked. For example, you stated that Obama had taken away your freedoms. I asked which ones and got what I thought was a non-sensical reply: lots of words, lots of memes, but no answer.
I'll ask again: what freedoms has Obama taken from you? Truth, please.
nath
Well I'm glad you can admit it.
So you really do believe the lies!
SuperLib
So you chose Donald Trump? You couldn't find someone with the qualities that you are looking for who isn't a bigot and a black eye on the party?
nishikat
"No, it's just the people are tired and fed up with Obama's BS, people see him as weak, pathetic and the people want someone that's strong or someone that personify strength, fortitude and determination and show all of our enemies that the president of the US will use all and every measure to protect the country and its citizens, pure and simple."
I'm looking for specifics in this paragraph.
Serrano
"Donald Trump held onto his commanding lead"
Amazing!
bass4funk
That he is absolutely THE worst president EVER surpassing Coolidge or Wilson? You bet!.
Over Hillary???? Was that a rhetorical question? Yes, Yes and a HELL YES!!!
Rubio or Cruz would be second and third choice.
nishikat
"Over Hillary???? Was that a rhetorical question? Yes, Yes and a HELL YES!!!" He will raise taxes over Hillary
SuperLib
I wasn't aware Republicans had the choice of making Hillary their nominee.
Making the bigot the Republican's top choice. Because of Obama. ("That's right")
Simon Foston
If I were a Republican I might have a problem with a candidate who'd been to IRA fundraisers and made comments like this about his own daughter:
Anyone who's so desperate to keep the Democrats out of the White House that they'd vote in this... freak really must be a bit sad and pathetic. And I bet that even if he ever does get elected President he'll never go through with muslim ban thing. But perhaps he isn't expecting to get elected.
Just out of interest, anyone know how much Donald Trump has raised in campaign donations? If he doesn't get the nomination he gets to keep whatever he hasn't spent, right?
bass4funk
Only in a Freddy nightmare.
There wouldn't be a Trump if we didn't have an Obama.
Black Sabbath
Trumps base loves violence, bigotry and stupidity.
Ah_so
Trump is British slang to break wind.
This bit of slang becomes truer by the day.