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Credit where it's due... The bump stock ban would be a good start... but this meeting now seems like more of an effort to save face than anything else. It should have happened earlier.

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Good on Trump. It's a start.

. . .

The NRA opposes an outright ban on bump stocks but has said it would be open to restrictions on the devices.

Why?

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"It's not going to be talk like it has been in the past," Trump said

Its going to be 100% like it was in the past.

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U.S. President Donald Trump said 

But was he joking? Being sarcastic? Was he misunderstood by the 'media' (aka the press he doesn't control)? Is this fake news? Will one of his army of lawyers and PR staff reinterpret what he 'supposedly' said?

Or is Trump just being another cynical POLITICIAN seizing the limelight, focusing the attention on him and more importantly his brand name.

More power to young people and all who'll inherit the wind of this presidency.

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America entrusts teens to buy weapons of war at an earlier age than we entrust them to make decisions about buying alcohol.

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Arming a teacher? Not a good idea imo. They have enough pressures to be getting on with, without the added pressure of "will today be the day I..."

How about hiring a professional (ex military/police) to just be at the school. Comparative salary with teacher I would have thought. Give he/she an office. He can get to know the students. Gather intel from teachers and students on potential loons. Patrol the corridors etc...

Give every teacher an alarm they can activate if something kicks off.

I'm available.

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America entrusts teens to buy weapons of war at an earlier age than we entrust them to make decisions about buying alcohol.

Very true. It’s past time to lower the drinking age back down to 18 where it used to be. Either you are an adult or not.

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Hey kids, watch carefully. Even if the GOP reverses their heinous behavior from yesterday and gives an inch you still have to vote them out because they cannot be trusted. As soon as the heat is off they will return to supporting your carnage. They only way to end gun massacres, racism and sexism in America is to get rid of the GOP. Register as soon as you are allowed, vote in the first election you can and vote in every election after that.

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Trump so far has eviscerated mental health treatment by both cutting federal spending and allowing sales of ACA policies which exclude that area of coverage (thus driving up cost for those who need it.)

So if he's honest, the fastest, most effective steps he could take would be to undo his decisions.

That would, though, be a de facto admission that he was wrong. What do you think are te chances of that?

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If there are no law enforcement personnel in schools, having defensive weapons available to at least some school teachers or administrators makes perfect sense. If it can be done in a safe manner. It doesn’t take a genius to understand why police stations are never the target for mass shootings. Because schools are gun-free zones they are guaranteed soft targets.

There are millions of guns in America and as we know by the drug trade, it’s easy to smuggle them in from other countries. American culture is broken and teeming with broken and dysfunctional families. Nearly half of the countries boys do not have a father in their houses. There are no immediate solutions. Even repealing the Second Amendment would have little immediate effect because of the sheer volume of weapons there are. Schools need someone available to be a deterrent for any nutcase tempted to use a gun-free school as there personal shooting range.

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WolfpackToday  09:34 am JST

It doesn’t take a genius to understand why police stations are never the target for mass shootings. 

Because angry white teens don't get expelled from police stations. Because the public doesn't sympathize with police officers the way they sympathize with students, and therefore shooting them doesn't function for hate-driven attention-seeking theater.

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Bad idea to hand this responsibility to the teachers. Human psychology is that some of the teachers will not get along well with certain types of poorly behaved students, so if each side is arming themselves against perceived threats (e.g. self defense against overzealous discipline), you are just sowing more chaos. Take note that only about 5 in a room of 50 White House visitors raised their hands when Trump point blank asked who supported arming school staff.

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There are millions of guns in America and as we know by the drug trade, it’s easy to smuggle them in from other countries.

Guns are not easy to smuggle. At the very least, they're harder to smuggle than drugs. I'm not sure what you meant, but most guns used in the drug trade are made in America. If anything they're being smuggled out, because border security doesn't give a crap about things going out.

American culture is broken and teeming with broken and dysfunctional families. Nearly half of the countries boys do not have a father in their houses. There are no immediate solutions.

Modern American culture is not significantly different than any other wealthy nation in the world.

Even repealing the Second Amendment

No need to repeal it. Go back to the sane interpretation of it that lasted all the way up to the 1960s.

would have little immediate effect because of the sheer volume of weapons there are.

Not immediate, but you'd think that's all the more reason to get started early.

America needs to stop telling itself that guns can't be separated from it's culture, because that's a story that was created and propagated by the gun manufacturers and their lobby for their own benefit.

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How about hiring a professional (ex military/police) to just be at the school. 

The school in Florida did have a Broward Sheriff’s deputy funded by the city but one that unfortunately wasn't on campus at the time due to responding elsewhere, or it may have been his day off. I don't have an answer except there is definitely a contagion effect to these mass events that isn't a statistical fluke to the point that 20 or 30 percent are probably set off by other attacks in the recent past. So definitely a stronger presence of law enforcement in the immediate aftermath of an attack if not longer.

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If there are no law enforcement personnel in schools, having defensive weapons available to at least some school teachers or administrators makes perfect sense.

People who think that kind of nonsense makes 'perfect sense' are never going to make American schools or other public areas safe.

If guns are a problem (and it's blatantly obvious that they are), the answer is not 'more guns'. But the NRA nut jobs don't want to hear that.

If you Iive in the US you're never going to vote guns out of the society, there are too many 'ah no mah rahts' types. The best way to protect your kids is to vote with your feet; run, don't walk, to the nearest airport or railway station, and emigrate to a saner country.

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Arming teachers is an absurd and delusional suggestion first offered by batty Davos.

Strong BG checks?

The GoP has systematically taken apart BG checks and has recently passed legislation to weaken BG checks.

Didn't Trump promise to get rid of lobbyists? So, why was the gun lobby in on this meeting?

The "kids" had it right. BS.

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Those who buy into the 'the solution to gun violence is more guns' should contemplate the close call Lorenzo Prado had to being killed by the SWAT team, and then consider what the likely outcome would have been with an armed but unarmoured lone teacher or guard, instead Of a team of six armour wearing specialists.

PS, then consider the scenario where said lone teacher, or other 'good guy with gun' is seen to open fire on an unarmed, complying, student by police, another 'good guy with gun', or the teacher/guard who recognizes the student, but not the shooter.

(Lorenzo was an innocent student wearing similar clothes to the shooter, who was reported to BE the shooter by students who encountered the SWAT team)

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Can we have metal detectors at each school entrance? And metal doors that automatically sequester schools into segments? And how about mandatory annual pyschological exams for students, sending those who fail off to the "special" school?

There's a lot to be done when you don't focus on the problem itself.

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America entrusts teens to buy weapons of war at an earlier age than we entrust them to make decisions about buying alcohol.

You can join the armed forces at 18 too. Still can't drink. So what's the point, that it's ridiculous?

No need to repeal it. Go back to the sane interpretation of it that lasted all the way up to the 1960s.

Up to the 1930s citizens could own machine guns without a license. Where do you get this stuff from?

Guns are not easy to smuggle

They aren't? Then, by your other assertion, how do the drug dealers in Mexico get them? Or the Yakuza?

The thing that amazes me about the while discussion is the lack of actual facts.

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Wolfpack: It doesn’t take a genius to understand why police stations are never the target for mass shootings. Because schools are gun-free zones they are guaranteed soft targets.

But have any shooters actually referenced this? I'd be curious if they've ever said themselves that the gun free policy meant anything to them.

Kids are going to shoot up their school because that's where they go to school. And shootings have taken place at concerts, nightclubs, churches, military bases, lots of different places. Remove the teenage kids shooting their own school and the number is probably a lot smaller. Add in Virginia Tech, too.

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"How about hiring a professional (ex military/police) to just be at the school. Comparative salary with teacher I would have thought. Give he/she an office. He can get to know the students. Gather intel from teachers and students on potential loons. Patrol the corridors etc...

Give every teacher an alarm they can activate if something kicks off.

I'm available."

I think this is an excellent idea. The vets could use the job (and more than deserve the pay) and nut jobs would stop targeting school for shooting sprees because there would be resistance.

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Up to the 1930s citizens could own machine guns without a license.

Yeah, and then they quickly realized how stupid that was. As guns became more destructive, laws got stricter. That's how it's supposed to be, and actually used to be until the 1960s.

Where do you get this stuff from?

Reputable sources.

http://time.com/3921663/gun-regulation-history/?p=3921663?xid=tcoshare

They aren't? Then, by your other assertion, how do the drug dealers in Mexico get them?

Like I said, Mexican drug cartels get their guns from the US, because the US is the world's leader in gun manufacture and it doesn't really care about stuff leaving it's border. So the US gun industry is responsible for the innocent lives caught in the crossfire of Mexican cartel violence too.

Or the Yakuza? The thing that amazes me about the while discussion is the lack of actual facts.

"What are we going to do about all those gun-toting Yakuza terrorizing Japan with their guns?" said no one ever. Where the hell do you get your BS from?

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police stations are never the target for mass shootings

In 2015 James Boulware riddled Dallas police headquarters with bullets and was killed hours later inside his armoured van by a sniper after a standoff with police.

His family claimed he was mentally ill and had told authorities they were afraid he would go on a shooting spree.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-dallas-police-ambush-had-history-violence-n374921

In 2016 a police staton in Maryland was attacked by a shooter. Police returned fire and injured the shooter. During the attack one police officer was shot and died. It later became clear that the dead officer, in plain clothes, had been hit by a fellow officer.

http://wjla.com/news/local/police-officer-shot-in-maryland-possible-active-shooters

Never say never?

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Someone claimed that shooters go after schools because they are 'soft target, gun free zones', and leave the police stations alone because of the guns.

I guess that means the Harrisburg, Pennsylvania attack didn't happen last year, the Dallas, Texas attack didn't happen the year before...

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Considering many (most?) teachers have some sort of mental health disorder don't think arming them is particularly wise.

Next headline: teacher who'd been bullied by his own students for months kills 3 & injure 5 before taking his own life.

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Being a teacher is already a very stressful job and the idea of expecting them to be security police will add to their stress. The burden of the responsibility will be too much

I also wouldn't want to pass that kind of burden onto a teacher.

Teachers are inherently nurturers not killers for hire.

What signal would we send out kids if we tell them, yes teacher needs a gun to protect you.

Potential outcomes in a shooting: The teacher kills or maims the kid and is forever traumatized with killing a child. The teacher fails to kill the kid because it is a kid, but the kid goes on to kill others, the teacher is forever traumatized. The teacher tries and misses, forever traumatized.

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Mafioso criminality led to the end of a previous era of machine gun ownership. This year it looks like the anachronistic NRA will have to grin and bear a reaming from their ally Trump. That is the message I got from hearing Trump speak about 'beautiful Meadow' just after hearing from the dead girl's plain spoken father. The slick lawyer-lobbyist PR style of the NRA has a hard time competing with real life grieving parents, and the established gunmakers that are already on the verge of bankruptcy are not going to pour a ton of money into fighting Trump.

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"If you had a teacher ... who was adept at firearms, it could very well end the attack very quickly,"

I suppose the teachers would need to use assault weapons. That’s what many of the people who engage in gun massacres use. Don’t bring a pea shooter to a military-grade weapon fight.

Teachers with assault rifles. Quite the image.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html

As expected – buried deep inside a Miami Herald article about the Parkland school shooter, Nikolas Cruz, and a school board questioning their progressive policies, found the following:

[…] Absent Cruz’s school records, it is hard to say precisely when Cruz’s behavior became an acute problem for teachers and administrators. Disciplinary reports obtained by the Herald show that at Westglades Middle School, which he attended in 2013, he’d been cited numerous times for disrupting class, unruly behavior, insulting or profane language, profanity toward staff, disobedience and other rules violations.

Records show the behaviors continued at Marjory Stoneman Douglas [High School], which he attended in 2016 and 2017 before being transferred, with discipline being dispensed for fighting, profanity, and an “assault.” It appears the Jan. 19, 2017 assault resulted in a referral for a “threat assessment.” A few months later, Cruz landed at an Off Campus Learning Center, where he remained for only about five months.

Broward County School Board are beginning to admit their mistakes? A bit late but there it is as I outline here on this related JT article post https://japantoday.com/category/world/update-3-trump-fbi-missed-signs-on-florida-shooting-due-to-russia-probe#comment-1614635

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This is a very similar case that leads 2012 Trayvon Martin trail into the rabbit hole of manipulated diversionary school discipline to avoid criminal arrests. Just so the school system could improve their statistics.

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And then one day, the teacher is..... just having a bad day. It really is a race to the bottom.

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> WolfpackToday 08:53 am JST

America entrusts teens to buy weapons of war at an earlier age than we entrust them to make decisions about buying alcohol.

Very true. It’s past time to lower the drinking age back down to 18 where it used to be. Either you are an adult or not.

Yes, you are either an adult or a juvenile. The issue with your proposal is that science has told us the frontal lobe, which controls emotional expression, problem solving, memory, language, judgment, and sexual behaviors, doesn't fully mature until the late 20s. This means that emotional expression, problem solving, and judgment are not fully developed in teenagers, so they probably shouldn't have ready access to firearms or alcohol.

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It doesn’t take a genius to understand why police stations are never the target for mass shootings.

Because police stations are literally full of individuals with extensive training in handling firearms and reacting to exigence circumstances.

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It really is a stupid idea. Assuming a student manages to bring a gun into a classroom, guess who the first target will be? And after the teacher has been shot dead before having a chance to reach his or her gun, the killer starts shooting students. More guns can not and should not be part of the answer. As with most things in the world, everything revolves around money and the gun makers make a hell of a lot of it. Money is power.

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As expected – buried deep inside a Miami Herald article about the Parkland school shooter, Nikolas Cruz, and a school board questioning their progressive policies

Not quite. From the article you linked:

*Under federal law**, Nikolas Cruz had a right to a “free and appropriate” education at a public school near him. His classmates had a right to an education free of fear.*

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Arming teachers?? That's that idiot's solution??

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arming teachers could help prevent massacres...

Now, how do we protect our kids from teachers' guns? Arm kids too?

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Arm the staff -- oh, lovely. "In case of shooter, break glass," eh? How many of these teachers will shoot the wrong person? If a teacher is shot, and a student picks up his gun ... then what? Absurd.

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Now, how do we protect our kids from teachers' guns? Arm kids too?

The shocking thing is there are undoubtedly some who see this as a workable solution.

Lots of cash to be made too.

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This is a very similar case that leads 2012 Trayvon Martin trail into the rabbit hole of manipulated diversionary school discipline to avoid criminal arrests. 

Why are you bringing Trayvon Martin into this? I've read all the smears against him, and even the worst of them didn't warrant him being shot dead. He was the victim in that story. An unarmed victim of another lunatic that shouldn't have had a gun.

Just so the school system could improve their statistics.

You can't make criminal arrests against people who haven't committed a crime. This shooting seems to have been Cruz's first actual crime. Yet you blame the "progressive polices" that didn't arrest a problem kid in his early teens? Instead of the conservative policies that put an assault rifle in the hands of the same problem kid at 18?

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A simple timeline: 

In 2011/2012 Broward County School administration made a policy decision to block the arrests of students in order to improve their education statistics. 

In 2013 that same school board was warned what was happening as a result of that policy. 

- In 2015 the School doubled-down on the diversionary policies and allowed students to break the law, including physical violence, without legal consequence. 

http://wlrn.org/post/south-florida-schools-join-white-house-school-discipline-summit

In January 2017 Nikolas Cruz criminally assaulted someone; again, law enforcement engagement was blocked by policy. 

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html

A year later in February 2018 Cruz killed seventeen students.

What happens when you stop arresting students for clear criminal conduct and then lessen the school punishment therein?…. You get this.

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Trump's competence on full display:

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5419957/amp/Trump-uses-CUE-CARD-remind-say-hear-you.html

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So it seems the NRA have more power over American lives than the politicians do.

Who elected them?

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This:

http://wlrn.org/post/south-florida-schools-join-white-house-school-discipline-summit

does not support any of this:

In 2011/2012 Broward County School administration made a policy decision to block the arrests of students in order to improve their education statistics. 

> In 2013 that same school board was warned what was happening as a result of that policy. 

- In 2015 the School doubled-down on the diversionary policies and allowed students to break the law, including physical violence, without legal consequence. 

In 2011, the school board did not decide to block arrests, it:

The district started a new program to try to change student behavior and avoid arrests and suspensions. More than 2,000 students went through the program its first year and more than 90 percent did not commit a second offense.

There is no mention of the years 2013 or 2015 in the article.

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Is anyone else seeing the report that the #1 trending video on YouTube was a conspiracy theory saying one of the kids is an actor? YouTube finally pulled it.

What a lovely group of people they are.

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Trump's such a sophisticated negotiator and business person that he needs bottle cards to remind him how to react when listening to students.

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Is anyone else seeing the report that the #1 trending video on YouTube was a conspiracy theory saying one of the kids is an actor? YouTube finally pulled it.

I saw that the delightful Ted Nugent "liked" the theory.

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/02/21/nra-board-member-ted-nugent-pushes-conspiracy-theory-parkland-school-shooting-survivors-are-actors/219443

Nice one, Ted. I'm sure your support will really help matters :-(

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Told you it would only be a day before he backed off on his "gun control" efforts. Asking for bump stocks to be "controlled" (he didn't dare say "Banned") probably got him a couple of NRA phone calls, for which we got something they've been asking for for ages.

Now, when an armed teacher has his/her gun taken by an angry student, and or when the teacher has a bad day... it's state sponsored massacre.

This is a message to the rest of the world -- the US are no longer leaders, and no longer care about anything at all but money. Stay away from the nation and let it fall in the hole they've dug for themselves. The poor kids have no chance with the idiots like Trump at the helm.

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Yeah great idea, and instead of having teachers "Body Slamming" kids to the ground like that which was on the news a few days ago, you will have teaching putting two to the chest and one to the head. I do not trust any American with anything more dangerous then a teaspoon.

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So, how many teachers in America? Each one must buy a gun. That is a massive amount of gun sales. Then, if you are student, and your teacher is a gun toting bully, you also have to buy a gun. More gun sales.

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I think only those techers lecturing American history or political science subjects were required to carry guns in their lecturings. You know their subjects could be turned in a heated debates and violences.

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This is a very similar case that leads 2012 Trayvon Martin trail into the rabbit hole

He didn't shoot anyone. Also the community organization paid 1M$ to Martin's family for Zimmerman's action. While you are at it why don't you check out the stories of Michael Dunn or Curtis Reeves since you are on the topic of Florida.

having defensive weapons available to at least some school teachers or administrators makes perfect sense

And who is going to pay for all this?

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I can’t understand why a national leader would suggest arming teachers at schools to protect students is a possible solution rather than reviewing existing legislation. Is the gun lobby really that powerful?Unbelievable how easy it is to get a gun there, especially weapons I’d associate with the military.

Our laws were tightened after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, since then we’ve had no major loss of life from firearms in this country. I know our countries may differ but think it serves as a good blueprint for the US.

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Our laws were tightened after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, since then we’ve had no major loss of life from firearms in this country. I know our countries may differ but think it serves as a good blueprint for the US.

Oh, you must have missed the post earlier where a poster on the site here met an Aussie who likes guns and thought Australia had done a bad, bad thing. Unfortunately, that one person trumps all other Aussie's opinions.

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Trump holds a note card with the words "I hear you" because he needs reminding in a conversation that what the other person says also matters. He literally needs a note to remind him that he is not the center of the world.

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So what happens if a Teacher accidentally shoots a Kid ? Or alternatively fails to protect one during a future attack - could they be sued ? If so, then surely he Insurance costs for being an armed Teacher are bound to rocket skyward... and that I would imagine make it less appealing to being a Teacher, so pay rises would be demanded, and those costs would need to be passed on. Who's going to pick up the Bill ?

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"If you had a teacher ... who was adept at firearms, it could very well end the attack very quickly,"

Is this statement incorrect? Checking... No, it's correct.

Here's an excellent report on this topic:

Ingraham: Guns, God and the grace to listen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Q0__iAr94

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This sounds familiar. I had a discussion with a friend years ago. An elderly couple was shot dead in an home invasion by the robber. I said we should ban guns. She said no if the elder couple had their gun they would have been able to protect themselves. Guns shouldn't be taken away. I can't say I understand but I know the majority think like that.

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Arming the teacher? Teacher can also become the shooter as well.

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Cliffy Not likely.

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what if a teacher has a really bad day and snaps? america you funny hahahaha

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Serrano. It is possible. They are not saint. They are human that also prone to have emotions and break down.

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In other words, completely SATURATE America in guns -- one in the house, one in the car, one at your place of work, one on your person, etc. Brilliant solution, Trump -- NOT! Can you imagine the absolute CARNAGE that would break out?? Step aside for someone who has a SENSIBLE idea!

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So, arm the Teachers.. one snaps, and shoots the kids... so then arm the Kids...

Who pays the NRA's dues ?

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I believe this proves that "Rezident" Hump is not much of a thinker or the brain within that tiny cheeto head is wasting away from age or debilitating disease. IMHO

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here in ohio, a teen who rode the bus to class got a long gun to school without anyone noticing.

he wounded himself in the bathroom. at first authorities thought it was a suicide attempt..later they realized that he had some bottle rockets [potentially to create a disturbance in the hallway.] looks like he averted his own school shooting.

ps: he died from the injuries...so he can't tell us his intentions

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there was a school shooting in kentucky last month that ended with 2 dead kids and 14 more wounded..but it's already down the memory hole.

details here

http://abc13.com/2-dead-19-injured-in-kentucky-high-school-shooting/2980251/

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Cliffy Not likely.

Because you say so?

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President Trump is a great leader because he is a great listener. He continues to lead by listening first; something Americans have grown unaccustomed to.

I have great faith in our President that he will take action. He will recognize the tragedy that took place in Florida last week but also respect our Constitution. . . .

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President Trump is a great leader because he is a great listener. 

he's such a good listener that he had to include "i hear you" on the note he was holding in the 2nd photo included in this japan today article

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To stop this kind of massacre, a tighter gun control like that in Australia should be introduced. Providing teachers with guns does not eliminate the cause of the problem. Again, Trump's policies on guns and nuclear arms race would surely worsen the problems.

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Arming teachers is the most stupid idea that I've ever heard in my life. It will only make the situation worse, schools will look like prisons. The only right solution is joining the rest of the world and banning the assault rifles.

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Let's have shoot-outs, like the OK Corral, on our school campuses. That's the ticket! Just getting rid of assault rifles, and guns, that's for sissies. Real teachers wear six shooters in the classroom.

Am I the only one who thinks Trump is the dimmest bulb in the box?

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‘The school in Florida did have a Broward Sheriff’s deputy funded by the city but one that unfortunately wasn't on campus at the time due to responding elsewhere, or it may have been his day off.’

He was there. He never went into the school while the shooting was taking place. He’s been fired, or resigned, depending on what source you look at.

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Law enforcement officers prefer to avoid "blue on blue" engagements, a.k.a. friendly fire

When law enforcers arrive at a shooting situation, they don't know exactly which ones are the bad guys - as precaution and for their own safety, they have to presume that all shooters are the bad guys

If the teachers are also shooting guns, how would the law enforcers know which is which

The teachers could shout that they are the good guys - but the bad guys could shout the very same thing

And heaven help them if the bad guy is a teacher with a gun allowed in school - how would they know which teacher with a gun is the bad guy from another teacher with a gun who's a good guy

If teachers are armed, there would be more "blue on blue" engagements

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USA has long been a parody of itself. This latest development is now proof.

Glad I live in Australia, 22 years since the last mass shooting. I do feel for the innocent victims though.

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Armed teachers.

Angry young men, bursting with testosterone. School vendettas. Pilfering teachers lockers. Frightened teachers. Itchy trigger fingers. Mistakes. Over reactions.

Yes, what could possibly go wrong?

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'Sir, have you marked our exams yet?'

'Couldn't last night. Was field stripping my Baretta again.'

Professional development days will be dedicated to student centred, inquiry based pedagogy in the AM, and rifle range work in the PM.

It's so ridiculous as to be farcical. The US has lost it.

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Well, armed Police officer wanted to wait for backup before entering building to face shooter.. that's standard policy... yet he was "fired"/let go, for doing so.... says it all...

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The answer certainly is....Arm the Teachers!!! Especially the good ones, not the ones who are stressed out! (But don't restrict them either...that would be against the second amendment!) And while your at it! Arm the children! It takes a good child with a gun to stop a bad one!! I always thought it was unfair that you send kids into a zone that has a higher killing rate than most wars, completely untrained and worse UNARMED!!! And be sure that the weapons are fierce enough!! Ask any trained cop what it is like to be in a gun fight when the bad guys have better weapons!! Makes a coward out of anyone!!

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Oh yeah, and on that note!!! Calling the guy a coward! I didn't hear it mentioned what he was armed with!!! I kind of doubt he was carrying the same kind of fire power! I read an article by an American Police officer about what it felt like, and how many of them were dying, when the "Bad guys" started having better weapons than the police! And the Bad Guy, in this case, was carrying a legal military grade weapon!!!! Wonder what the security guard was carrying? Should have the facts before we call someone a coward!

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