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Now I seem to recall someone was talking about having more than one debate. Who was it, now...

“I would be willing to do more than one debate, actually,” Trump said on a call with reporters, two days after President Joe Biden in a stunning move dropped out of the election contest and endorsed Harris as his replacement atop the Democratic ticket.

“Yes, absolutely, I’d want to” debate Harris, the Republican nominee said.

“I think if you’re in the Democratic nominee or Republican nominee, you really have an obligation to debate,” he said. “So, it’s very important."

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/23/trump-says-he-is-willing-to-debate-harris-multiple-times.html

Oh yes - it was Donald Trump. I wonder what made him change his mind, and what his supporters think about it.

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The old man is tired and weak and not willing to look like a complete and utter doddering old fool again.

"They're eating the dogs!" with spittle out of his mouth will be the endearing memory of his campaign.

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I bet the Republicans are regretting letting Trump not debate in the primaries. They hadn't realized just how far into the throes of his decline he had reached, and even in the first debate they were so focused on Biden, they forgot their own guy is ancient as well. Whoops!

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No surprise - he couldn't face another humiliation.

That he lost is clear - even Fox News has said that he came off worse.

He arrogantly thought he would win against a black woman. Hubris always meets its Nemesis.

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"THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!" the former president wrote on social media site Truth Social. Trump had participated in a debate against President Joe Biden in June before his debate against Harris on Tuesday.

Harris hit a nerve when she pointed out the world was laughing at Trump.

There are a lot of expats here and look at how his immigrants eating cats blathering got coverage.

They had not been exposed yet to the full derangement of MAGA, which Trump could keep under control during his foreign visits.

A lot of people who are not terminally online or Fox/MAGA sphere had not seen the full derangement of Trump in all its sordid glory.

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Good for all concerned. Harris should do some town halls.

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Harris has tapped into Trump's anger, but directed it at Trump. She is spitting fire against that loser.

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Harris hit a nerve when she pointed out the world was laughing at Trump.

And that the world leaders think he's pathetic. His response was that Orban and Putin like him.

Strong response bro. Strong response.

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In many ways this was the second disastrous debate for Donny Drumpf. The first was because it led to the beatable Biden being forced to step aside and allowed Harris to step forward. It was retrospectively a pyrrihic victory.

The recent debate showed that he was unsuitable for offside. Despite claiming to be the one with the policies, he has only a "concept of a policy. LOL. He was poorly prepared, obviously evaded difficult questions, and rambled.

A third would be another disaster - he needs to stick to what he does best - fooling some of the people all of the time.

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Looks like his handlers think he’s more likely to do further damage to himself.

Off into his safe space.

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Dude debate like a lady

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The Trump campaign has released a statement stating that they will only agree to another debate if they can mute their candidate's mic during his own time.

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Despite claiming to be the one with the policies, he has only a "concept of a policy"

And it took him 9 years to put together that concept.

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He lost, so he wants to take his toys and go pout somewhere. Can someone check his diaper and put him down for a nap too, please? Mr. Trump is mentally unprepared and needs some medical tests before he stroke's out.

I don't like the majority of the Dem's policies, but won't have a petty, man-child in office again. Trump as President would be worse than losing 30% of our wealth for all the terrible things he might try to do.

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I'm looking forward to hearing the new Trump talking points from the MAGA crowd.

It looks like the top one will be "it was 3 v 1 - ABC was biased and they fact checked Trump's lies."

But if Trump can't handle a couple of journalists, you can't trust him to face real opposition as President. No wonder Putin and other despots support him.

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Dude debate like a lady

Don't insult ladies.

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Trump after losing (Harris said she'd debate again): When you win, you don't want to debate again.

Trump after debating Biden: I'm ready for another one

(fact check me, it's true)

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I don't like the majority of the Dem's policies, but won't have a petty, man-child in office again. Trump as President would be worse than losing 30% of our wealth for all the terrible things he might try to do.

It will be better for America and the world when the right and left can get back to arguing over policy difference rather than fundamental differences on what reality is.

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StrangerlandToday  07:11 am JST

Trump after losing (Harris said she'd debate again): When you win, you don't want to debate again.

Trump after debating Biden: I'm ready for another one

(fact check me, it's true)

Indeed so. He was initially willing to have more than one debate against Harris. He said so himself. Now he's not, even though they could probably get less "biased" networks to host them.

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his “performance” is what undecided voters will remember.

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Ah_soToday  07:07 am JST

I'm looking forward to hearing the new Trump talking points from the MAGA crowd.

They're not as interesting to read or listen to as veteran Republican pundits:

“But there’s no putting lipstick on this pig,” says [Karl] Rove. “Mr Trump was crushed by a woman he previously dismissed as ‘dumb as a rock’. Which raises the question: What does that make him?”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-debate-karl-rove-verdict-b2611340.html

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it seems trump's most influential advisor is now laura "looneytunes" loomer.

a person so nutty that marjorie taylor greene said she's ""appalling."

loomer posted that if harris is elected, the white house will smell like curry and white house speeches will be facilitated by a call center. she's flying side by side on trump's plane, not melania or ivanka.

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Donald Dum Dum: So, what is the plan?

Donald Trump: Well, I have a concept of a plan.

Donald Dum Dum: You're incompetent. You're fired.

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I can see why: Trump is running scared.

Kamala wiped the floor with Trump at the last debate.

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He’s done. I’ll miss the laughs next year.

I hope JD is still around in some capacity to fill the comedy void.

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I can see why: Trump is running scared.

Kamala wiped the floor with Trump at the last debate.

You should have watched the debate, or read a transcript.

What a spectacular closing by Trump.

What exactly is this plan Harris spoke of, and why has it been hidden for 3.5 years?

Oh yeah--because she doesn't have a plan.

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She put on her girlfriend face and pretended to be flabbergasted

Misogyny is MAGA

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Oh yes - it was Donald Trump. I wonder what made him change his mind, and what his supporters think about it.

Dana Walden, Bob Igor, and the entire rat network made a ridiculous mockery of it The clear losers of the debate are the undecided voters. Now, I will admit he should not have taken the bait and allowed her to jab him, but Kamala never answered any of the questions, lied about most of them, and is not getting called out about some of them.

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Jik7Y

I can see why: Trump is running scared.

Kamala wiped the floor with Trump at the last debate.

You should have watched the debate, or read a transcript.

I watched the debate - Trump went off the rails.

What a spectacular closing by Trump.

Nah, pretty average, but better than "they are eating our pets!"

What exactly is this plan Harris spoke of, and

Tax relief for small business and families. Policies to make buying a house easier, etc., etc.

why has it been hidden for 3.5 years?

Biden is president, not Kamala.

Oh yeah--because she doesn't have a plan.

Oh, she does.

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It will eat away at him and he'll have to do another one. Getting publicly unpacked and exposed to enormous ridicule by a woman will haunt him.

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How easily everyone is being gaslighted by their own prejudices and hatred of Donald Trump. Whether immigrants are eating dogs or cats or whatever, it’s not the point.

The point is that migrants into the Springfield Ohio have been shipped in, in large numbers.

To imagine that this would not cause trouble and consternation is unbelievable.

The people of Springfield Ohio have not been told why they have so many immigrants coming to the community. However, the fact is that the United States government and business are colluding to use these immigrants for cheap uncomplaining labour.

Greed and profit are at the base of this situation.

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Montgomery

Kamala lost the debate.

In what universe?

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Kamala lost the debate.

LOL. I want expecting the double down strategy.

But as the dating goes, if you repeat a lie often enough...

It certainly worked for Trump before on the 2020 election - despite zero evidence ever being offered, it is now an article of MAGA faith that the election was stolen. Trump just repeated an obvious lie over and over again.

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Trump should only agree to a third debate on his terms.

Right.

So have a MAGA moderator nod in agreement when Donald Dum Dum says people in Springfield Ohio eat dogs and cats, they're eating the pets!

Anyways he believes he won the debate 92-7 win, according to Dum Dum. Certainly a dominating performance!!

Who needs things on his terms if he's won so easily!

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kurisupisu

How easily everyone is being gaslighted by their own prejudices and hatred of Donald Trump. Whether immigrants are eating dogs or cats or whatever, it’s not the point.

The point is that migrants into the Springfield Ohio have been shipped in, in large numbers.

Yeah, because there are large numbers of jobs.

To imagine that this would not cause trouble and consternation is unbelievable.

It doesn't.

The people of Springfield Ohio have not been told why they have so many immigrants coming to the community.

Again, jobs.

However, the fact is that the United States government and business are colluding to use these immigrants for cheap uncomplaining labour.

Yep. Jobs.

Greed and profit are at the base of this situation.

Well, no. Do you think immigrants are better off with jobs or not?

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They're not as interesting to read or listen to as veteran Republican pundits:

Karl Rove is one of many Republican Bush strategists. I respect the guy, but he has his opinions, and there are many who disagree with him, so it just depends on which soundbyte you want to use.

Here is another one that came out this morning.

There’s no sugarcoating it—this is a serious problem for the Democrats. College-educated America may be delighted with candidate Harris but working-class America clearly is not. And there are a lot more working-class than college-educated Americans. 

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/harris-working-class-problem

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Kamala wiped the floor with Trump at the last debate.

I agree she made more silly faces than Trump.

I watched the debate - Trump went off the rails.

He wanted to avoid the Harris trainwreck.

Tax relief for small business and families. Policies to make buying a house easier, etc., etc.

Sounds original! Must be a great plan--the Biden-Harris administration should implement it right away in the face of this huge inflation!

why has it been hidden for 3.5 years?

Biden is president, not Kamala.

If her plan was so great then surely she would be able to convince one person in 3.5 years. But if she couldn't convince a mentally challenged Biden of her "plan" probably other than you, maybe her parents and Willie Brown are looking forward to her "plan".

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Trump said Kamala believes immigrants in jail should get a transgender operation. He said people in Ohio eat dogs and cats.

So what does that mean? Immigrants wake up in jail, as he said, get a transgender operation and if they're immigrants in Ohio, they'll eat dog for breakfast and cat for dinner. Or visa versa, depending on what's on the menu for the day.

All factual information from Trump.

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bass4funk

There’s no sugarcoating it—this is a serious problem for the Democrats. College-educated America may be delighted with candidate Harris but working-class America clearly is not. And there are a lot more working-class than college-educated Americans. 

I would tweak it a bit. Working class men are maybe not - Trump has convinced them to vote against their own interests.

But their wives are voting for Harris.

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Now, I will admit he should not have taken the bait and allowed her to jab him,

@bass - I know you don't like to admit any error on Trump's part, so I will take this as a fairly significant observation.

Of course, he couldn't help himself. The straight of goading him was still telegraphed prior to the event, but he still feel for it and made himself look silly.

If he is so distracted by his own vanity, is he really fit for high office?

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Bass, your article claims two thirds of American voters are working class.

That’s clearly an exaggeration. I hope you don’t believe it.

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I would tweak it a bit. Working class men are maybe not - Trump has convinced them to vote against their own interests.

True.

But their wives are voting for Harris.

Not really, but for the College educated, very true.

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Bass, your article claims two thirds of American voters are working class. 

That’s clearly an exaggeration. I hope you don’t believe it.

Coming from a liberal that wrote it, I most definitely believe it. And why do you worry so much? You can't vote in the US anyway. This is the thing that just baffles me. ROFL! I mean, I appreciate you love our politics, but dear lord...lol

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I know you don't like to admit any error on Trump's part,

I do and I did if you scroll up.

so I will take this as a fairly significant observation. 

Ok

Of course, he couldn't help himself. The straight of goading him was still telegraphed prior to the event, but he still feel for it and made himself look silly. 

Like I said, I do fault him for that.

If he is so distracted by his own vanity, is he really fit for high office?

Well, you can ask yourself that same question about hers, that should give you the answer you seek.

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Coming from a liberal that wrote it, I most definitely believe it.

You believe liberals now? I see

And why do you worry so much? You can't vote in the US anyway.

So what? Deal with it and stop whining.

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@Underworld

Yes, I agree the immigrants are being exploited.

Immigrants are likely to find themselves doing low paid, boring,repetitive work.

However, have these jobs are not being offered to the population at large first.

Why not?

How do immigrants not speaking English, find jobs in the first place?

The answer is that there are organizations in the US facilitating immigrant employment.

Theae jobs are not publicly advertised in many cases.

Americans are not even given the chance to refuse possible employment.

Also, you obviously have no experience of living in a small community to realize the problems that a large number of foreigners would bring.

However, there is online testimony of several Springfield residents calling out the loss of life,confusion and trouble.

There is more to community than profit but that is something that you seem oblivious to.

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Harris up 4-5% nationally and the GOP candidate is too scared to debate after being trounced in the last one…

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Jik7YToday  07:45 am JST

What a spectacular closing by Trump.

What, the "why didn't she do it?" line? Hardly spectacular. It was wasted at the end when Harris didn't need to come up with an answer.

bass4funkToday  07:47 am JST

Now, I will admit he should not have taken the bait and allowed her to jab him, but Kamala never answered any of the questions, lied about most of them, and is not getting called out about some of them.

All the more reason for Trump to want more than one debate then, isn't it. Like he said when Biden dropped out and Harris took his place.

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Trump rambled , but his rambling were crystal clear

Did you like the clarity of ‘a concept of a plan’?

Really hit the bullseye with that one.

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kurisupisuToday  07:51 am JST

How easily everyone is being gaslighted by their own prejudices and hatred of Donald Trump. Whether immigrants are eating dogs or cats or whatever, it’s not the point.

The point is that migrants into the Springfield Ohio have been shipped in, in large numbers.

It's not the point of this article.

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One Harris spanking was enough for Trump.

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Trump says no more debates with Harris

Well, that's it folks—this just confirms that Trump knows he is in a good position to win this election—

the country still doesn't know who Kamala Harris is and what she intends to do for the American people, specifically—she continues to avoid answering questions and is extremely vague

(and btw, once again, we saw the same movie that we have been seeing in recent months—as soon as the debate was over, Trump went to speak to the press and Kamala ran away)

and spent the entire debate taunting Trump in hopes of distracting viewers from her lack of substance and the terrible job she's been doing over the past three and a half years (in case you forgot, she's in office now);

like I (previously) said, there was no clear winner (Trump did very well with his answers on abortion, inflation and immigration but)—both Trump and Kamala missed a good opportunity in this debate…; the problem for Kamala is that voters are much more comfortable with what they already know about Trump compared to what they don't know about her.

( the truth is that her presidency would be more of the same (a lot of unhappy people out there) or even worse than Biden's—and people are starting to realize that )

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All the more reason for Trump to want more than one debate then, isn't it. Like he said when Biden dropped out and Harris took his place.

Sure, if she agrees to one on FOX or Newsmax, that is up to him to decide. Neither would get help from the moderators and both would get hit hard with serious questions that both have to answer and keep them on track, so maybe he might, they are working to see if they can change his mind, I think he will, but time will tell.

One Harris spanking was enough for Trump.

No, it was dealing with a crooked and dishonest network that was the decider.

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The Big Orange Wussy Wimps Out Again...

Is Lindsey Graham still the nominee to hold the intervention? The one where Trump is told he is toast and to pack his bags and go back to MAL to await his jail sentences?

We know one thing, Nikki Haley is going to be all over Fox News starting today...

Heck, even Ron DeSoros may think he has a chance again (he doesn't)...

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Trump's hour news conference following the debate wasn't controlled by a network but packed with 162 lies and distortions.

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Then show me a reliable source Arai g that two thirds of US voters are working class. 

Look at Trump's poll numbers when it comes to the economy, there you go.

You can’t because it is incorrect. 

No, she me Harris leading Trump on the economy, you can't and you know it.

Yaaaawn. Same crap every day Don’t you get bored of repeating yourself?

Ditto..

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rcch

Trump says no more debates with Harris

Well, that's it folks—this just confirms that Trump knows he is in a good position to win this election

Nah, his campaign just realizes that another debate will likely harm him. He knew before this debate that Kamala was planning to bait him - and yet when it happened, he couldn't resist the bait.

So a second debate is unlikely to go better for him.

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Harris 47%. Trump 44%.

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bass4funkToday  08:22 am JST

Sure, if she agrees to one on FOX or Newsmax, that is up to him to decide.

He seems to change his mind a lot about it so I wouldn't personally believe what he says from one minute to the next

No, it was dealing with a crooked and dishonest network that was the decider.

So you keep saying but you're not convincing anyone.

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WHAAAAA...I was badly beaten...by a woman...of color... WHAAAA...I'm going home to look for the marbles I lost.

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After what I saw, I'd be afraid to debate her, too. Trump is hiding behind a rock like a character in a cowboy movie, peeking out to see where she is so he can get away. She flattened the saliva out of him.

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The whole thing about the dogs shows me Trump will take an ordinary citizen's word at face value and express sincere concern for the situation. 

You have a rather warped sense of sincerity. In my world, it’s not of face value and sincerity, it’s hearing false conspiracy and repeating any false narrative Dum Dum pleases.

Do you realize he took the Kamala bait of his crowds leaving early as he talks out of boredom to 90 seconds later ranting about eating dogs, cats and ‘they’re eating our pets!’

Totally funny because it was unprovoked to show just how unhinged the guy is and how he cannot stay on point.

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No, it was dealing with a crooked and dishonest network that was the decider.

ABC the 'crooked' network because they are Disney 'woke'.

'Fair and balanced' network:

https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-election-lies-fda05a63a1af8a111ce1efba024b88a0

Fox/MAGA paying out multi-millions for their network lies.

MAGA adjectives are literally meaningless and please double down on the the Trump protecting the cats and dogs memes , even though Trump famously hates dogs.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/donald-trump-dogs

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I’m not a person of religion, but man, I pray for another debate, Fox or anywhere. Trump’s mentally challenged, unstable and disturbed mush brain is great entertainment.

Another debate with Kamala would exacerbate his cognitive disconnect.

What fun it would be. I love laughing at Donald Dum Dum.

‘Gee, I thought I did well, the best I’ve ever done. They’re laughing at me, not with me…isn’t that how it’s said?’

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they are working to see if they can change his mind, I think he will, but time will tell.

That'll be another flip flop for Trump.

Hope he can find something more to his liking:

Jesse Watters: "Sir, the current migrant crime wave--including the rampant abduction and consumption of dogs-- plus an economy in worse shape than the Great Depression have left 92% of Americans wondering whether a Marxist who slept her way to the top is the right candidate for the job. Would you agree with them? You have 10 minutes."

--show me a reliable source Arai g that two thirds of US voters are working class. 

Look at Trump's poll numbers when it comes to the economy, there you go.

That makes no sense.

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someone need to make a second debate with harris and an ai trump.

spitting, scowling, they’re eating carts, destroying america, i won the last debate as the best debater in the world, everyone knows it…

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TRUMP 49%

HARRIS 47%

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He got spanked by Kamala for free and now he’s complaining that it was “3 on 1”.

He usually has to pay and get 3 on 1 so what’s he complaining about?

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Of course he’s running away from debates.

He’s a coward.

She wiped the floor with him.

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That'll be another flip flop for Trump.

Harris never flip flopped on anything eh? Thanks in advance for your non-reply and downvote.

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I seem to remember his cult followers saying “I can’t wait for the debate!”

Yeah, THAT aged well…..

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NOMINATION

TRUMP 49%

HARRIS 47%

TRUMP 47%

HARRIS 48.5%

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

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"I believe we owe it to the voters to have another debate."

It does not work that way, what you need to say is I will debate you on Fox and before that do 2 hour session with centrist/right aligned media.. than you will make your point.

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Well, an ajudicated rapist, convicted felon, mocker of Gold Star families and disabled journalists doesn't want to appear in a debate.

Surprise.

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then let's accuse him of being a caring fool for an ordinary American citizen.

Nah. He doesn't care. In his own words:

“I don’t care about you, I just want your vote.”

--Trump talking to a crowd of supporters sweltering in 100-degree heat in Las Vegas

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TRUMP 49%

HARRIS 47%

I that the same polling where he said he’d won the debate 90-3?

LOL.

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Fox/MAGA paying out multi-millions for their network lies.

Speaking of cult/brainwashed, here we present the whole "your party lies, mine never does" excuse.

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MontgomeryToday  08:32 am JST

I think some commenters are being unfair to Trump. The whole thing about the dogs shows me Trump will take an ordinary citizen's word at face value and express sincere concern for the situation.

I think if someone takes something they want to believe at face value they're gullible and silly, especially when it's "people on television" who are saying it.

That's something I see severely lacking from his opponents: they're not people people. That's why they're always awkward when they try to do common people stuff on social media, like bbq or drinking a beer.

Have you seen his running mate JD Vance trying to buy doughnuts?

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After the total smack-down Harris did on Trump at the debate, there may be one “crime” she could be worried about...

Elder abuse…

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Fox/MAGA paying out multi-millions for their network lies.

Speaking of cult/brainwashed, here we present the whole "your party lies, mine never does" excuse.

Whos party is saying, without satire, that Haitians are eating people’s pets?

Cult much?

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No need to have another debate. He'll just bring up "but (illegal) immigrants are bringing crime and bad stuff into our country" for the 20th time.

Like, I get it. Immigration should be controlled, illegal immigration should simply not be allowed. Period. Full stop. You allow anyone to come into the country (any country) and as many, with zero control, and it is chaos. That is the downfall of any country. So the guy's got a point... ish.

But he's just blaming every single problem the nation's society has on immigration; and that is just a trump card for politicians when they've got nothing intelligent to say. Just like Moon played the "but look at what Japan did (almost a century ago)" and just like every JP's Prime Minister with the Yokota fam. Just a trump card when they need to divert attention. And for Trump, because he didn't bring anything into the debate. Because he only brought names calling and lies against his opponent.

The only way he knows how to lose, is by throwing a tantrum. Just like he did back in 2020-21.

What a disgrace of an ex-president of the United States of America.

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The former Insurrectionist-in-Chief continues to, not only to deny he lost the election in 2020, but also that he will not accept the results of the one in 2024.

Of course, he stated that he won the debate.

We the People of the United States of America deserve better.

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Trump has the concept of a plan….. to leave to country for a place without an extradition treaty, lol.

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NOMINATIONToday  09:12 am JST

That'll be another flip flop for Trump.

Harris never flip flopped on anything eh? Thanks in advance for your non-reply and downvote.

Deflection isn't really worth a reply to be honest.

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Trump really needs to show he is more than wind and braggadocio and has substance if he wants to win over the swinging / doubting masses.

His performance may well have energized the maga community - but it did little to convince others, as confirmed by the comments from republican leaders and other leading conservatives.

He used the prizefighter analogy to discredit Harris, stating all losers want a re-fight. But in reality fails to see he was the one punched into the corner and was saved by the bell allowing Harris to win on points.

She's not satisfied with a points victory and wants another chance to land a real KO punch.

Trump knows that, so fantasizes about his great win to the adulation of his fan(atical) base and sees no point in fighting a loser. Some would call him "chicken".

As I said in an earlier chat, this was a chance for Trump to peel off the veneer and put forward substantive proposals in a clear and coherent manner. Displaying such would have won over a few of the doubters - probably enough to guarantee an election win.

But no - Harrises sharp bites grabbed his ego by the throat and he went full throttle rage, blasting off while Harris just watched the breakdown all unfold.

Regardless of what one believes the quality of Harrises performance to be, Trumps was a huge display of weakness if one wants to be leader of the free world.

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NOMINATIONToday  09:28 am JST

Curious about why nobody here posts about the election of the country they actually live in...

Have you actually looked at any of the comment threads about Japanese elections?

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Actually my personal favorite was when fact checked Trump saying “I saw it on tv!” And therefore it must be true, lol.

What a buffoon.

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No more debates unless he gets a tremendous talking point from Trump Whisperer, Hannity Lecter, convincing him that "the late, great Hannibal Lecter" is a Democrat who's come back to eat the voters' pets?

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So Trump says he "won" the debate and it was his "best-ever"....

What are some of his fellow Repubs and those he "likes and respects say?

Golf buddy Lindsey Graham: "There was only one word for Donald Trump’s Tuesday night debate performance against Kamala Harris: Disaster.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/disaster-lindsey-graham-leads-right-wing-freak-out-over-trumps-debate

New BFF RFK Jr: “Vice President Harris clearly won the debate in terms of her delivery, her polish, her organization and her preparation,”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1/liveblog_66e21a87e4b055a0b2a4ec61

GOP Pollster Frank Luntz: “I’m trying to decide if I want to go on record, and the answer is yes,” he continued. “I think that — that he loses the race because of this debate performance.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-pollster-frank-luntz-debate-120240365.html

We could cite more Repubs but they all ran away before a reporter could ask them...

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Trump's hour news conference following the debate..

That's the thing, "everyone" watches these news conferences, and these do make a difference.. your candidate is yet to do them...

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If Donald Trump becomes the 47th President of the United States America, I will marinate and tartar my most cherished and expensive prime footwear, a pair of Jimmy Choo Bing pumps and ingest them.

I might even pledge to fricassee my Bonbon matching mesh handbag in a broth, butter, cream, garlic sauce,

From the very moment Donald Trump even hinted his candidacy for a second term, every illiberal clandestine underhand, fundamentally undemocratic tactic methodology from the Democrat toxic establishment elite has been deployed.

The US justice system, a willing corrupt main stream media cabal, sneering hate distain and chicanery.

The constant attempts at public humiliation, every facet relating to his political campaign slanted with a concoction of biased and unfair ridicule.

Proof enough is that sham partisan masquerade display of an ABC debate.

Why would an republican nominee subject themselves to that shameful display for a third time?

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itsonlyrocknrollToday  09:43 am JST

If Donald Trump becomes...

Whatever. There's no conspiracy hatched by the "deep state," the Democratic Party, the MSM or whoever. Trump is doing all the damage himself, to himself. Must be a bit embarrassing to contemplate after all the self-righteous pontificating but there it is.

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Have you actually looked at any of the comment threads about Japanese elections?

Obviously you didn't as it is the first article when opening this website. Might as well rush down to the 3rd article of the World section to comment on a country you went to once.

Why don’t you either quit whining about other peoples’ choice of article interest or go elsewhere?

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itsonlyrocknroll

From the very moment Donald Trump even hinted his candidacy for a second term, every illiberal clandestine underhand, fundamentally undemocratic tactic methodology from the Democrat toxic establishment elite has been deployed.

Incorrect. The Democrats are conducting a clean campaign.

Anything felon Trump has suffered in the courts are entirely due to his own nefarious schemes.

The US justice system, a willing corrupt main stream media cabal, sneering hate distain and chicanery.

Either back your claims with evidence or keep quiet.

The constant attempts at public humiliation, every facet relating to his political campaign slanted with a concoction of biased and unfair ridicule.

Fair due, Trump deserves it. In turn Trump calls Kamala stupid. (Which seems rich after the debate.)

Proof enough is that sham partisan masquerade display of an ABC debate.

What proof. The ABC debate was a fair debate. That can't be disputed.

Why would an republican nominee subject themselves to that shameful display for a third time?

Because they are running scared?

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From the very moment Donald Trump even hinted his candidacy for a second term, every illiberal clandestine underhand, fundamentally undemocratic tactic methodology from the Democrat toxic establishment elite has been deployed.

The US justice system, a willing corrupt main stream media cabal, sneering hate distain and chicanery.

The pedantic, illusionary and irreversible insanity of MAGA, which pervades a not so innocuous overly processing or disconnect of neurons, is a trait of toxicity and paranoia that leads to exaggerated and unrestricted words of gobbledygook.

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Is anyone else seeing the irony at Trump spreading false, patently false stories about immigrants, Haitians to be specific, eating people’s pets while at the same time preening about the endorsement of a guy who actually was going to eat roadkill and who cut the head off a beached whale and then drove home with it bungee corded to the roof of his minivan?

Cause that seems a little inconsistent to me….

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If Donald Trump becomes the 47th President of the United States America, (remaining rant not copied for the purposes of brevity).

Thats a lot of words for “WAAAAAA”….

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“Every Poll has us WINNING, in one case, 92-8, so why would I do a Rematch?”

--DJT

The 92-8 is apparently a reference to an internet poll done by Newsmax, whose audience is going to be almost entirely slack-jawed MAGA folk.

But it's comforting to know that at least 8% of MAGA folk are intellectually honest enough to admit Trump screwed the pooch, so to speak.

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Humour me for a moment set aside assertions of conspiracy theory.

Kamala Harris has led a cloak and dagger, hid and seek campaign. Harris team skilfully managed to conceal Harris weaknesses, That fact has to be acknowledged

No interviews, no press conference, a single nice and gentle CNN love in.

This debate, evasion, no question proposed directly answered. No challenge or follow up, no attempt of fact check, however with no direct answers forth coming, little point.

Trump willingly walked into a trap. No escape from that.

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 lied about most of them, and is not getting called out about some of them.

wrong she got called out for some of her exagerations, fact remains of the

55 claims in the debate nearly all were proven false nealry all made by Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/11/fact-check-presidential-debate-harris-trump/

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Trump willingly walked into a trap. No escape from that.

It wasn't a trap. Trump wasn't smart enough and disciplined enough to make any reasonable arguments.

And even if it was a trap, Trump wasn't smart enough and disciplined enough to make any reasonable arguments.

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lied about most of them, and is not getting called out about some of them.

like Ive stated before without the lies and personal attacks, Trumps got nothing

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54% of registered voters believed that the single debate between Trump and Harris was enough, while 46% had wanted a second debate.

Majority of voters think no more debates are necessary so that settles it then. Democracy in action. Voters will make their choice at the ballot box then. All is good.

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From the very moment Donald Trump even hinted his candidacy for a second term, every illiberal clandestine underhand, fundamentally undemocratic tactic methodology from the Democrat toxic establishment elite has been deployed.

Uh-huh, all those Dems that; 1) Forced him to tell all his supporters on Jan 6th to "fight like hell", 2) that forced him make up all those fake fraudulent state elector lists, 3) made him steal all those classified docs and violate a subpoena to return them, 4) forced his aides to obstruct justice by deleting security tapes, 5) made him make false entries in his Trump Org business records to hide his porn star payoff, 6) forced him to sexually assault E. Jean Carroll in a Dept store.

The US justice system, a willing corrupt main stream media cabal, sneering hate distain and chicanery.

Those are some real anti-American comments...sounds like Putin...

The constant attempts at public humiliation, every facet relating to his political campaign slanted with a concoction of biased and unfair ridicule.

I'd say going on nation-wide television and saying "They're eating the dogs" is a pretty big self-humiliation...

Proof enough is that sham partisan masquerade display of an ABC debate.

ROFL...MAGA-whine-time...

Why would an republican nominee subject themselves to that shameful display for a third time?

None - as they've proved, they're all cowards...

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Could this relentless continuing orgy Donald Trump distaste detest loathing hatred inspired a deranged shooter attempted assassination?

I wonder.

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Could this relentless continuing orgy Donald Trump distaste detest loathing hatred inspired a deranged shooter attempted assassination?

I wonder.

No. You can stop wondering now.

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Anyone here seriously would vote for Harris???

Humor me!.

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I should tell my kids to get into Journalism. No reports from on the ground, just call a person to find out then mix in some opinions and voila! You can get paid 6 figures.

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Still parroting this? The one who's been in hiding, ever since Biden dropped out, is Trump.

Kamala Harris has led a cloak and dagger, hid and seek campaign. Harris team skilfully managed to conceal Harris weaknesses, That fact has to be acknowledged

No interviews, no press conference, a single nice and gentle CNN love in.

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I should tell my kids to get into Journalism. No reports from on the ground, just call a person to find out then mix in some opinions and voila! You can get paid 6 figures.

Only works if you are creating cant for corporatist candidates and conservative billionaire grift. And it is getting easier to automate even the MAGAbots with GPT.

So wouldn't recommend it if you care for your kids.

The 'eating the dogs and cats' has created troves of memes and blogs though. So in the interest of the economy, which DJT always says he is the bestliest at, I demand we have another debate!

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Ask yourselves to this day, before and after, the "debate" has Kamala Harris summited to a single press conference or interview?

The Harris policy portfolio, housing, law and order, immigration, the economy, climate change, you name it, vague nondescript,

All unfunded, all unchallenged.

Satisfied?

Correct me if I am wrong with a interview or a press conference.

Harris is a scripted, autocue chameleon.

Kamal Harris will be facing dictators that don't suffer fools, are you all confident enough to accept the new President simply because it the anyone but Trump vote?

Haven't we been here already?

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At least Trump has proven that he is not so senile that he can't mispronounce a bunch of random numbers like 90% and 72%. I just don't know if he was using his so-called "wave" method of getting his point across.

One good thing to come from that debate was that I learned from Trump is a good way to respond to my boss when he asks me if I've finished my project: "Well, I have concepts of a plan". If Trump can use that answer for the past 8 years, then I guess it can work for me.

Also, I'm sure cats and dogs everywhere are going to vote for Trump, now that he has their back.

One thing I'm disappointed about him not having another debate is him being able to clarify just what he knows and doesn't know. He's always claiming things like "No one knows the economy more than me" and "No one knows the weather more than me", but then suddenly says things like "I don't know about Project 2025".

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He seems to change his mind a lot about it so I wouldn't personally believe what he says from one minute to the next 

You can do that as an outsider, go right ahead..

Love to read you input though.

So you keep saying but you're not convincing anyone.

I don’t need to, you can’t vote, but luckily a lot of voters can.

https://x.com/mark_r_mitchell/status/1834322642427588662?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

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Could this relentless continuing orgy Donald Trump distaste detest loathing hatred inspired a deranged shooter attempted assassination?

I like people who weren’t shot.

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sorry Kamala rudeness unintended and corrected,

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"Is this a newsmax poll?"

In case of comprehension issues, it is clearly stated in the article above. Reuters / Ipsos poll. Glad to be of help.

"Among voters who said they had heard at least something about Tuesday's debate, 53% said Harris won and 24% said Trump won, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday. The poll showed that 54% of registered voters believed that the single debate between Trump and Harris was enough, while 46% had wanted a second debate."

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It wasn't a trap.

It absolutely was a trap

Trump wasn't smart enough and disciplined enough to make any reasonable arguments.

Well, yes, as long as Muir and Davis kept Trump on the ropes and made sure….uh…Kamala didn’t answer the question, all was good, keep the focus on him, duck, dodge and evade, and like most lawyers, she did a fine job

And even if it was a trap, Trump wasn't smart enough and disciplined enough to make any reasonable arguments.

Like I said, he couldn’t. Asking about J6 and the 2020 election? You kidding me? Groceries are up 21% car insurance 55% and you ask that stupid question???

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Like I said, he couldn’t. Asking about J6 and the 2020 election? You kidding me? Groceries are up 21% car insurance 55% and you ask that stupid question???

Yup. Just like the law and order citizens of America.

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One wonders if Fox will let Trump back on since he dissed two of their correspondents WHILE ON FOX...

"After falling short in his debate with Kamala Harris Tuesday night, Donald Trump is lashing out at his favorite network. Speaking on Fox News Wednesday morning, Trump told Fox & Friends that he would prefer Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters, or Laura Ingraham to moderate any future debate."

"No, I wouldn’t want Martha involved." Trump said, arguing that Bret Baier and Martha McCallum aren’t qualified to moderate."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lashes-fox-hosts-live-133719299.html

I'm sure the Murdochs were thrilled with that....ROFL..

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One wonders if Fox will let Trump back on since he dissed two of their correspondents WHILE ON FOX...

He will. They both need each other

"After falling short in his debate with Kamala Harris Tuesday night, Donald Trump is lashing out at his favorite network. Speaking on Fox News Wednesday morning, Trump told Fox & Friends that he would prefer Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters, or Laura Ingraham to moderate any future debate." 

Yup

"No, I wouldn’t want Martha involved." Trump said, arguing that Bret Baier and Martha McCallum aren’t qualified to moderate."

Yes, he definitely can say that

I'm sure the Murdochs were thrilled with that....ROFL..

They don’t have to care, they’re just the owners, the news room is not their business.

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How's this for a perfect example of Donald's hypocrisy and flip-flopping;

On the debunked conspiracy theory that immigrants are stealing and eating pets in Springfield Ohio; ""They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there, and this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame."

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/11/trump-immigrants-eating-pets-conspiracy-theory

On fellow Repub Kristi Noem shooting her 14 month old puppy; "Former President Donald Trump praised South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as a “terrific person” when asked in an interview about the backflash she received over revelations in her new book that she shot and killed her dog."

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/14/politics/kristi-noem-trump-dog-killing/index.html

I guess Donald thinks it's OK to kill your dog, just don't consume it...

Welcome to MAGA-world...

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How's this for a perfect example of Donald's hypocrisy and flip-flopping;

On the debunked conspiracy theory that immigrants are stealing and eating pets in Springfield Ohio; ""They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there, and this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame."

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/11/trump-immigrants-eating-pets-conspiracy-theory

On fellow Repub Kristi Noem shooting her 14 month old puppy; "Former President Donald Trump praised South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as a “terrific person” when asked in an interview about the backflash she received over revelations in her new book that she shot and killed her dog."

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/14/politics/kristi-noem-trump-dog-killing/index.html

I guess Donald thinks it's OK to kill your dog, just don't consume it...

From the police report

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Trump has quite a different meaning when he complains the Haitian immigrants are eating all the hot dogs.

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One wonders if Fox will let Trump back on since he dissed two of their correspondents WHILE ON FOX...

Good point. It's so obvious by now, that if you have any disagreement with Trump, no matter how small the matter is, he'll call you out, degrade you, and hate you for it. There is not such thing as "bipartisanship" or "compromise" in Trump's world. It's his way or the highway. Either you believe in his outlandish conspiracy theories that Haitian immigrants are eating dogs and cats in Ohio, or you face his wrath against you. It's why it's also so obvious that Trump can be played. If you praise him and be nice to him, he'll be nice to you and give you all kinds of favors. It's why it's necessary to question if we really need a leader who will just pander to those who are nice and show agreement with him (at least in front of him).

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I agree. Harris totally outshined Trump. So of course, he doesn't want more debates. Trump failed. I hope Harris wins.

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Among voters who said they had heard at least something about Tuesday's debate, 53% said Harris won and 24% said Trump won

I think Harris displayed better temperament and precision.

More than anything, it became clear that Trump is a shadow of what he was in 2016.

Slow with the comebacks and even when he raised his voice after Harris triggered him, it’s getting reedy. His voice was always quite high and effeminate in some ways but now it’s getting very thin.

Age hitting him hard.

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Underworld

This November 5th will elect a 47th President of the most powerful nation on earth.

Both candidates must face the US people, the media, friend or foe, be subjected to challenge, to scrutiny to have to fully explain policy manifesto before that vote to the people.

Democracy in action

Face past criticisms, defend there record in office as vice president, under condition of interrogation in the glare of broadcast media

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itsonlyrocknroll

Underworld

This November 5th will elect a 47th President of the most powerful nation on earth.

Both candidates must face the US people, the media, friend or foe, be subjected to challenge, to scrutiny to have to fully explain policy manifesto before that vote to the people.

Democracy in action

Face past criticisms, defend there record in office as vice president, under condition of interrogation in the glare of broadcast media

Based on Kamala's debate, she will have no problems in this role. Trump? Not so sure...

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