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Trump pressures Barr to investigate Bidens as election nears

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He's got to do something to survive. He has no platform to run on, and always just complains that no one loves him!

24 ( +36 / -12 )

This is sickening. Trump is clearly happy to take down as much of the system as possible if/when he loses. Further evidence, that rational adults don’t need, of Trump’s repugnant incompetence.

19 ( +30 / -11 )

Well, there are some who love him.

I would never have believed that a draft dodging, NY city slicker, carnival huckster would be the darling of the American flag waving, country music loving, pickup truck crowd.

Just goes to show you the power of stupid people in large groups.

27 ( +37 / -10 )

This is major corruption,

Major corruption? Rich coming from Trump, the most corrupt politician in modern US history.

Barr has privately expressed frustration over the president’s public pronouncements.

Barr and the Federalist Society are probably done with Trump. They used him to get their Supreme Court justices and have no further need of him, especially now that he's showing such obvious signs of mental and emotional derangement.

22 ( +32 / -10 )

Love that photo: like two men who have just been sentenced and have been told they will be cell mates together! Seriously, Barr once thought he knew where his bread was buttered, but now must be having serious thoughts about being thrown under the bus by Trump. Even more worrying for Barr as a "norm breaker" is the thought he may very well face legal consequences next year for aiding and abetting Trump's abuse of power in his role as a rogue AG, even more egregious than Nixon's AG who was incarcerated for his crimes.

16 ( +26 / -10 )

I would never have believed that a draft dodging, NY city slicker, carnival huckster would be the darling of the American flag waving, country music loving, pickup truck crowd.

Just goes to show you the power of stupid people in large groups.

Exactly.

14 ( +24 / -10 )

Well that was biased.

-13 ( +10 / -23 )

Trump’s hasn't hidden his frustration. He recently retweeted a photo of Barr with the caption "for the love of GOD ARREST SOMEBODY.”

Be careful what you wish for, Donald. That somebody might be you.

16 ( +26 / -10 )

Because of course he did.

What self-respecting DOJ prosecutor would agree to take the case? He or she would be committing career suicide.

Some people just want to watch the world burn...

16 ( +22 / -6 )

Ordure hitting the fans.

7 ( +13 / -6 )

If what Vice President Biden and his son did what they are saying, he should be investigated. It is a blatant abuse of power on the Vice Presidency.

-12 ( +11 / -23 )

It’s gonna be fun watching Trump go down in flames.

14 ( +24 / -10 )

“I know people that would have had him locked up five weeks ago,” Trump said. “Bill Barr is a very nice man and a very fair man. And in many ways, it doesn’t make some of us happy.”

He doesn't think the Attorney General of the United States should be fair?

15 ( +21 / -6 )

If what Vice President Biden and his son did what they are saying, he should be investigated. It is a blatant abuse of power on the Vice Presidency.

Ok, what exactly is the crime? A VPs son arranges for his father the VP to meet someone from a foreign business he works for and that foreign nation obtw just happens to have the third largest troop contingent in Iraq under the US flag. Maybe you should become acquainted with the business dealings of Elaine Chou, you know, Mitch McConnells wife, her sisters positions on the boards of the Bank of China and China's state owned shipbuilding company, the bank which just happens to loan money to their father's shipping company to buy ships from the shipyard who's board she sits on, and some of the profits from the family shipping company, which moves mostly iron ore from Brazil and Australia to China, go to Mitch McConnell's campaign war chest. Millions of bucks over the years from a shipping company doing all of its business in China but owned by his father in law. No crimes there. Heck McConnells old lady is the Secretary of Transportation while her father buys ships from China instead of the US and supplies China with the iron ore to compete with the US. Melanoma Trump has active business dealings in China as the First Lady and has received multiple trademarks from them. All Biden's kid did was act as a door knocker to arrange a meeting with his father the VP. Where is the crime? Be specific. Exactly what crime was committed?

10 ( +21 / -11 )

I would never have believed that a draft dodging, NY city slicker, carnival huckster would be the darling of the American flag waving, country music loving, pickup truck crowd.

Yes, who'da thunk it, but herein lies the tragedy of the American working class, like its counterpart across the pond which, like turkeys voting for Christmas, "gave back control" to bufoon Boris and his incompetent Tory wrecking crew. Left behind without political representation after 40 years of exploitation and economic plundering by "neo-liberal" capitalism and "globalization", the working classes of the US and UK have lost their way and in their desperation to escape from economic and cultural stagnation have been led astray time and again into voting against their own interests.

Nobody yet knows what the post-covid world will look like, but it is to be hoped that the working classes will wake up to reality, organize and stop following "false prophets". A massive social correction may follow. Let's just hope it won't be fascism-lite, because "it can happen here". This latter danger is why it will be important in 2021 to hold miscreant officeholders to account for abuse of their office and their crimes and misdemeanors so that the general public can be reassured that "nobody is above the law" is no joke, but the principle that must be upheld in order to safeguard democracy.

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He doesn't think the Attorney General of the United States should be fair?

No, he doesn't.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

Joe Biden is responsible for every skinned elbow ever. Except for the ones Hillary is responsible for, which is all of them.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

Major corruption? Rich coming from Trump, the most corrupt politician in modern US history.

I've had employers like him who were dishonest and just naturally assumed everyone else was too. Then when you refuse to do something blatantly illegal just because this employer told you to they become indignant.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Trump should tell Barr to investigate Biden’s tax returns. Get really forensic.

Transparency is vital.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Tortoise, 7.41 am, reamer, 7.45 am

Great posts.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Can't wait until Porky Pig declares:

That's All Folks!

...and puts us out of our Looney Tunes misery.

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yakyakToday  07:24 am JST

If what Vice President Biden and his son did what they are saying, he should be investigated. 

Yes, if there are sufficient grounds for an investigation. Guiliani couldn't even get Fox News to touch this story, though.

10 ( +15 / -5 )

Where's my Roy Cohn? He's sitting in the AG's office.

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If what Vice President Biden and his son did what they are saying, he should be investigated. 

The FBI are investigating whether the entire thing was a Russian disinformation campaign.

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Nobody yet knows what the post-covid world will look like, but it is to be hoped that the working classes will wake up to reality, organize 

That line of thinking has never taken hold in the US. There has never really been any strong feeling of there being a "working class" in the US. Too many people think wealth and fame are right around the corner if only their "luck" would change. I see this locally with ne'er do wells panning for gold in nearby mountains, absolutely convinced they are just one good sized nugget away from a life of wealth and leisure. If only their "luck" would change. Labor organizing is widely viewed as something akin to socialism. Too many union members did little but gripe about their dues and didn't pay close enough attention to what their leaders were doing with those dues. Everyone complains about their leaders but few seem interested in participating in the process with enough interest and energy to make a positive difference. Easier to complain and blame someone else. All though the US history you see low income working stiffs voting against their economic interests for ideological reasons. The US is an often unfathomably weird country full of contradictions.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

Impeach both of them

4 ( +8 / -4 )

But...but....but....WINGMAN!

7 ( +11 / -4 )

But...but....but....WINGMAN!

Lmao. You’re beating the Trump supporters to the punch. It would be more effective if you threw in some irrelevant comments about Eric Holder, Fast & Furious, weaponizing the IRS, etc.

Cause, you know, if others did something wrong, it’s totally cool that we also do something wrong.

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Abuse of power. This boob can't be gone quickly enough.

Impeach both of them

That's useless. A complete waste of time until the next Congressional session starts in January, assuming the Democrats get a huge number of seats in both the upper and lower house. By that point, .45 will be ineffective, claiming he really didn't want to win and blaming everyone else for his lack of 5th grade civics knowledge.

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Trump of all people to call someone else corrupt. LOL

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I would never have believed that a draft dodging, NY city slicker, carnival huckster would be the darling of the American flag waving, country music loving, pickup truck crowd.

well, people do change, just look at the model citizens Hunter and Joe Biden turned out to be.

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

 The US is an often unfathomably weird country full of contradictions.

You tell a familiar tale, but every word is true and yet hope springs eternal while waiting for that paradigm shift to wean Americans from their self-delusion and liberate them from their self-inflicted myths of exceptionalism and magalomania.

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Lock Trump up. Lock him up. Lock him up.

January 2021 here we come.

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I thought there was nothing to investigate and its all debunked?

Now its "its too close to the election".

Its never too close to the election to prevent the election of a corrupt politician who allowed his son to sell out our country and personally profited from that.

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Its not, says the FBI.

The FBI are investigating whether the entire thing was a Russian disinformation campaign.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Its not, says the FBI.

Cite? If not, it’s Blacklab saying it, not the FBI.

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They're worried. The dems that is. Joe is hiding. There's more to drop. The left wing media's bias will be futher exposed. Trump will win. You'll all lose your minds. Again.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

So will Barr follow an order for a political investigation or resign? Should be fun to watch. :)

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if you pay attention, one thing you have yet to hear from the Biden campaign is, "the emails are fake". That says a lot. They want to pay attention to how they were found, who had custody etc., but they are not questioning their authenticity.

The whole issue is influence peddling, and of course it isn't confined to the Bidens. It is a pandemic in Washington (not to mention other capital cities too- Justin Trudeau are you listening?). Everyone is doing favors for everyone else, giving their friends' kids a boost, smoothing the way, etc.

The problem in the Biden case is that he explicitly denied any knowledge of his son's activities. That is now shown to be a lie. Also the peddling was much more direct and egregious than most. Most politicians keep it under the radar and get away with it, but when you run for President ALL your dirty laundry gets exposed. At least if the media are doing their job...

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Biden laptop is legit - DOJ. The "Russia-Russia-Russia" rhetoric fails again for the libs:

https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497

BREAKING: A senior federal law enforcement official tells @JakeBGibson

1) FBI & DOJ concur w/ Ratcliffe that Hunter Biden's laptop & the emails in question weren't part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

2) The FBI DOES have possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

MORE: @marthamaccallum is told by a Federal Law Enforcement Official that the emails are “authentic.”

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Trump pressures Barr to investigate Bidens as election nears

Donald is beyond desperate - he knows he is losing in a landslide...

Barr has already told him there is no evidence his campaign was "spied on" and that Durham won't be issuing any indictments of Obama officials....

So he pressures Barr to investigate a claim that originated from a Russian smear attempt....

With Trump, it always comes back to Russia...

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“We are seeing a total politicization of the justice system in the final stages of an election.”

Zelizer is definitely right and Trump wants to use his last "resources" to make things look worse for his opponent. The words of a dictator "to be" ..... deflect, accuse, deny, obstruct, suppress, falsify .... all the things Trump is very good at!

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UPDATE: JUST IN: Rudy Giuliani just confirmed on Greg Kelly’s show (Newsmax) that there are pictures of underage girls on Hunter Biden’s hard drive. The information has already been turned over to Delaware State Police.

Now, keep in mind that the guy has daughters. So of course he has pictures of underage girls on his computer. But the fact that the information has been turned over to the state police tends to suggest that these are not just normal pictures of his children. 

Also, it's reported that only 50 percent of the drive has been examined by Giuliani and his team so far. So, no one really knows the full extent of this yet.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

The deranged occupant of the White House thinks the U.S. Federal Government is his fiefdom and the Attorney General (Secretary of Justice) is one of his personal attorneys and hitmen.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

I think we all know how this will end...

On election night, Biden will win in a landslide or a clear majority - and Trump and his supporters will just deny reality - "we won"!

When the numbers force that delusion to wear off, they'll switch to the "we'll win when the mail in ballots are counted" fairy tale...

When it becomes clear that Biden won the mail in vote also, they'll switch to the faux "FRAUD" claim...

When that doesn't gain traction, they'll just go back to option 1 - we won, the rest is all "fake news"....

They'll still stick to this alternate reality even when Biden is sworn in on Jan 20th and when Trump is led off to Rikers Island for the illegal Stormy payoff and for tax fraud...

The big question is, will they take to the streets with their guns in some kind of insurrection? I imagine a great many will....

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Major corruption? Rich coming from Trump, the most corrupt politician in modern US history.

Yes, but with Trump, the Democrats with the help of a foreign operative Christopher Steele as well as senior officials from the FBI and Intel community drove a fake Russia narrative that was failed and debunked.

With Hunter Biden you have the FBI that have his lap, that he signed off on it and that he had all of these notes and saying how his dad was getting 10% of what he was making, the pictures of both men standing next to Ukrainian Oligarchs, there is no denying it, even Biden’s lawyer was asking for the laptop back, the Biden camp didn’t dispute it, they can’t because we now have physical evidence and Biden not addressing the issue won’t make it go away, so yes, Barr should definitely investigate these serious findings..

Barr and the Federalist Society are probably done with Trump.

Barr and the Federalist Society have absolutely nothing to do with liking Trump or not, you can’t peer into the minds of these people and there is no possible way of you knowing what they think, but Barr is definitely frustrated with the certain officials within the DOJ that are trying to stonewall this case.

They used him to get their Supreme Court justices and have no further need of him, especially now that he's showing such obvious signs of mental and emotional derangement.

What a bunch of laughable hogwash. You guys can’t stop trying.ROFL

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

So will Barr follow an order for a political investigation or resign? Should be fun to watch.

I think he will pursue an investigation, but I agree, should be fun to watch.

-10 ( +3 / -13 )

Trump’s call for a Justice Department investigation of the Bidens came just one day after 11 GOP House members sent a letter to Barr calling for a special prosecutor to probe whether Biden received foreign money during his tenure in the Obama administration and if he allowed Hunter Biden “to peddle access to his father with foreign business entities.”

The FBI had this Biden-campaign killing info since late last year and sat on it.

Rudy Giuliani has it, though many people still don't know about it though because the feckless media and Twitter and FB are doing their level best to keep it under wraps.

They are failing though. The truth is coming out.

Donald is beyond desperate - he knows he is losing in a landslide...

Nah, the Biden campaign is desperate, they are keeping Joe locked down until the final debate so he doesn't blab out something he shouldn't. So far he hasn't denied any of the allegations.

Trump-Pence 2020 LANDSLIDE VICTORY

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

the next liberal whining is going to be that its real but why did the FBI keep it until right before the election?

It always goes in stages, starting with Russia, then attacking who provided the info, then attacking the motives, then finally admitting its true, but then whining about the timing of the release, then finally saying "who cares, thats old news".

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

So will Barr follow an order for a political investigation or resign? Should be fun to watch. :)

So will Quid Pro Joe admit to the allegations ( they're true ) or stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge or deny them? Should be fun to watch. :D

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

Rudy Giuliani has it, though many people still don't know about it though because the feckless media and Twitter and FB are doing their level best to keep it under wraps.

They are failing though. The truth is coming out.

Hilarious - this has to be an SNL skit...

*President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is under investigation by federal prosecutors over possible campaign finance violations and accusations he failed to register as a foreign agent, Bloomberg reports.*

*Multiple U.S. officials told the outlet that the probe into Giuliani’s financial dealings could also lead to charges of violating bribery or conspiracy laws, with one adding that his work alongside the president has raised counterintelligence concerns.*

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470579-rudy-giuliani-under-investigation-for-campaign-finance-lobbying

Donald is beyond desperate - he knows he is losing in a landslide...

Nah, the Biden campaign is desperate, they are keeping Joe locked down until the final debate so he doesn't blab out something he shouldn't. So far he hasn't denied any of the allegations.

So, once again - why did Trump call for the Michigan Governor to be "locked up" but said nothing about the far-right domestic terrorists that planned to kidnap and execute her?

Trump-Pence 2020 LANDSLIDE VICTORY

Thanks for confirming the delusion...we get it....keep repeating it if it makes you feel better...until Nov 4th...

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clock is ticking on Joe. Hidin in the basement trying to come up with a plan to deflect from this.

Trump needs less focus on Hunter Biden personal problems and more focus directly on how the Big Guy (Joe) was involved in benefiting from Hunter's foreign deals with our enemies financially.

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

not one thing to do with Joe Biden, there is the deflection

So, once again - why did Trump call for the Michigan Governor to be "locked up" but said nothing about the far-right domestic terrorists that planned to kidnap and execute her?

and there is the "attack the messenger". You do know the FBI has the hard drive, right? Are any of the emails not real? Neither Joe nor Hunter have disputed the authenticity.

President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

It's beyond obvious what Trump and the Repubs are playing here...

They know Trump is a lost cause - he just keeps self-imploding each day - they've written him off...

So the plan going forward is to try to keep this Russian authored smear going so they can hound Biden with it after he is sworn in on Jan 20th. You'll hear Nunes, McCarthy, and maybe few Repub Senators call for a Special Prosecutor - and try to keep this is in the news.

But except for the far-right hate bubble, everyone knows this story is pure fakery...straight from Moscow...

But as the Repubs are clearly aligned with Putin now, they'll continue to - as one Trump supporter here routinely says - "flog this dead horse"...

Which will send them into political purgatory for the next several decades...

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Reminds me of;

but.... but.... but.... what about Hillary’s emails?

Desperation at it’s finest!

Biden-Harris 2020 LANDSLIDE VICTORY

well, actually, it’s more like

Trump-Pence 2020 LANDSLIDE DEFEAT

since, over the last four years, it’s been Trump himself doing everything he can to destroy his chance of reelection, and the United States has is becoming collateral damage...

10 ( +13 / -3 )

If Joe Biden is so obviously winning, why the need for all the Russia Russia misinformation?

The laptop has nothing whatsoever to do with Russia. If Joe didnt do anything wrong, then lets release all the emails and texts to clear his good name. Before it was where is Biden hidin, now its what is Biden hidin.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is under investigation by federal prosecutors over possible campaign finance violations and accusations he failed to register as a foreign agent, Bloomberg reports.

Bloomberg..ok, so it basically really won’t go anywhere.

Multiple U.S. officials told the outlet that the probe into Giuliani’s financial dealings could also lead to charges of violating bribery or conspiracy laws, with one adding that his work alongside the president has raised counterintelligence concerns.

Like with Trump the Washington establishment swamp tried this before....sigh...and failed.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

So, once again - why did Trump call for the Michigan Governor to be "locked up" but said nothing about the far-right domestic terrorists that planned to kidnap and execute her?

Then she wouldn’t have kept her State closed, the longer she and Democrat governors continue to do this, more militias against these lockdowns will continue to rise, resist and threats will grow.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

What's is the political significance of Hunter Biden's pro macs?

Bit of a lad, yes?

Does he know what day, or even year it is?

0 ( +1 / -1 )

*President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is under investigation by federal prosecutors over possible campaign finance violations and accusations he failed to register as a foreign agent, Bloomberg reports.*

Bloomberg..ok, so it basically really won’t go anywhere.

*Multiple U.S. officials told the outlet that the probe into Giuliani’s financial dealings could also lead to charges of violating bribery or conspiracy laws, with one adding that his work alongside the president has raised counterintelligence concerns.*

Like with Trump the Washington establishment swamp tried this before....sigh...and failed.

Hmmmmm.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/report-giuliani-under-investigation-for-lobbying-violations

5 ( +8 / -3 )

the texts that discuss Hunter complaining about kicking back half of his foreign salary to "Pop" and the other emails about "H holding 10 for the Big Guy".

Are those not significant it true? Has anyone disputed that they arent? strangely, no. Just media attacking Rudy and Joe Biden hiding in the basement and Hunter Biden missing in action.

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

the texts that discuss Hunter complaining about kicking back half of his foreign salary to "Pop" and the other emails about "H holding 10 for the Big Guy".

Are those not significant it true? Has anyone disputed that they arent? strangely, no. Just media attacking Rudy and Joe Biden hiding in the basement and Hunter Biden missing in action.

Because they don't want to be complicit in helping a Russian disinformation scam - unlike the far-right media and the Repub party which is in lock-step with Moscow...

I used to say GOP stood for Guardians of Putin as a joke - the Repubs have just proved it true...

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nobody buying "the Russians" anymore. you guys ruined that one.

Developing: Hunter Biden's Associate Bevan Cooney Who Shared the Biden Emails Has Been REMOVED from his Prison in Oregon

ruh roh! No Epsteining and no Clintoncide going on with this guy. You do know he has all Hunters emails because he was copied on them, right? No Russia here.

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

wouldnt it be so easy if the Bidens could just come out and say the emails arent real and that the laptop does not belong to Hunter Biden?

That Joe Biden is not "the Big Guy"?

Why isnt that happening?

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Joe Biden retired, quite righty, Joe and his family disserve a rest. let he old guy rest in solitude and peace.

There is a catch Joe is politically front center, voteable.

But what sits behind Joe is toxic to middle income Americans.

Then there is Donald Trump. Well it is hell and high water?

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Developing: Hunter Biden's Associate Bevan Cooney Who Shared the Biden Emails Has Been REMOVED from his Prison in Oregon

ruh roh! No Epsteining and no Clintoncide going on with this guy. You do know he has all Hunters emails because he was copied on them, right? No Russia here.

Please - if we want a running tab on what Russian intel is publishing, we can go to Russia Today...

Save the crazed, beyond nutty fairy tales for the blinded flock - for the rest of us, it's like reading a bad X-Files script...

Share it with your flat earth, 5G causes COVID, Elvis is alive pro-Trump cohorts...

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Biden also lying in his recent TV ad.

"The Biden campaign is taking flack for a recent television ad featuring a struggling Michigan bar owner that the ad neglects to mention is actually an affluent veteran tech investor who donated to the Democratic presidential nominee’s campaign."

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

As Comedian In Chief saw the early voting turn out to vote he knows he's losing so to unwield all his might to abuse such power as President you know he staring defeat by Biden.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Stay the course!! MAGA2020!!

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

Barr would restore much-needed integrity to Justice Department and himself should he stands up to Trump's unethical demand.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Yet more of a mockery being made of democracy by the self-proclaimed global champions of it. How many overseas wars have been waged and how many innocent lives have been lost to this monster of a country in the name of freedom and democracy and now this farce on it's own soil.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

I keep hearing about "Russia Russia", yet both the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence categorically deny any Russian involvement. So what is the evidence of any Russian involvement at all? I am genuinely curious.

The basic facts seem not to be in dispute. The computer belonged to Hunter Biden. It had thousands of emails and images. The emails show a disturbing pattern of corruption and influence peddling. The Biden campaign has never denied that the emails are real. The rest is all smoke and mirrors and distraction. No need to overanalyze the situation.

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

The New York Times is reporting that the Trump Organization not only has had many business dealings with China but also has a bank account at a Chinese bank. Perhaps William Barr could also investigate this October surprise.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Trump has run out of ideas. A wounded animal.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

There’s a reason this story isn’t getting any traction, it’s patently ridiculous. The chain of custody includes Bannon (Indicted felon) and Rudy (IC warned the WH he was being manipulated by Russia to no avail).

This story is so dodgy that Fox wouldn’t even touch it. Think about that: Burisma, Benghazi Killory Fox wouldn’t touch this story. It went out without the byline of the reporter because he didn’t think it was true.

Trump’s rube of a DNI, who has zero credibility may have said this isn’t a disinformation campaign, but 50 IC professionals with decades of service put their names on paper saying this has all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation operation. Any sentient being recognizes it for the farce it is.

You know what IS going to gain traction? Trump had a Chinese bank account not disclosed on his disclosure forms. Which bank? He won’t say? How much moved through it? We don’t know. Why didn’t he disclose it? We don’t know that either, but I’ll bet he will get “a few” questions about it from now till election day.

And eventually the truth will come out.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

The New York Times is reporting that the Trump Organization not only has had many business dealings with China but also has a bank account at a Chinese bank. Perhaps William Barr could also investigate this October surprise.

Really?  This is news?  an international property developer and brand owner has bank account in China?

As opposed to a career politician's son gets millions from Russia and China and Ukraine for doing what exactly? 

All this denial and obfuscation  just adds to the feeling that there is some basis for thinking that Joe is tainted by his son's activities.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

Debate Moderator: President Trump, we are seeing record breaking COVID numbers in numerous states and it's only expected to get worse. What's your plan for dealing with this?

Trump: Well I think Hunter Biden...

Good luck.

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It's beyond obvious what Trump and the Repubs are playing here...

They know Trump is a lost cause - he just keeps self-imploding each day - they've written him off...

So the plan going forward is to try to keep this Russian authored smear going so they can hound Biden with it after he is sworn in on Jan 20th. You'll hear Nunes, McCarthy, and maybe few Repub Senators call for a Special Prosecutor - and try to keep this is in the news.

Well, I wasn't expecting confirmation this quickly, but thank you Rep Jordan....you've just admitted that you know Trump is going to lose...

Rep. Jim Jordan calls for special counsel investigation into Hunter Biden emails

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-jordan-special-counsel-investigation-hunter-biden-emails

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The latest from Major Garrett of CBS News (via his Twitter feed):

The FBI & DOJ concur with DNI Ratcliffe’s assessment that Hunter Biden's laptop and the emails in question were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign. FBI does has possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

The mainstream is starting, reluctantly, to cover this story. Props to Garrett for professionalism.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

This is honestly getting soooo hard to follow. I don’t even understand anymore if republicans are supporting Trump or if their equivocal attitude indicates the will to get rid of him, while Trump goes insane on any possible topic.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

So according to Trump Clinton belonged in jail, he's now saying Biden belongs in jail..... so basically his opponents belong in jail? hmmmm we've seen unsavoury characters like this through history before and it never ends well.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Ego Sum Lux MundiToday  09:41 am JST

*UPDATE:** JUST IN: Rudy Giuliani just confirmed on Greg Kelly’s show (Newsmax) that there are pictures of underage girls on Hunter Biden’s hard drive. The information has already been turned over to Delaware State Police.*

Was the original "smoking gun" not having the desired effect? It seems odd that Giuliani would be able to "confirm" this now, after the hard drive being turned in to the authorities. How would he know, anyway? This wasn't included in any previous allegations, as I would expect it to be if Giuliani wasn't just making stuff up as he went along, so are there people in law enforcement leaking information to him about ongoing investigations?

BlacklabelToday  10:13 am JST

clock is ticking on Joe. Hidin in the basement trying to come up with a plan to deflect from this.

Your tone is starting to come across as desperately hopeful. Really - if these were allegations about Trump and one of his sons wouldn't you just laugh at them?

BlacklabelToday  10:22 am JST

You do know the FBI has the hard drive, right? Are any of the emails not real? Neither Joe nor Hunter have disputed the authenticity.

Oh well - if this is the open and shut case you would clearly like to think it is, I expect the FBI will be making arrests and pressing charges any day now, especially with William Barr in charge.

AttilathehungryToday  11:22 am JST

The basic facts seem not to be in dispute. The computer belonged to Hunter Biden.

That's actually been explicitly stated and acknowledged, has it?

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Simon Foston: if these were allegations about Trump and one of his sons wouldn't you just laugh at them?

Well the shop owner is a Trump supporter and sent the hdd to Rudy's lawyer. Given black's willingness to disqualify any information coming from Democratic supporters, his interest in the story would have ended there.

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Simon: Biden's lawyer acknowledged the computer was his, and asked for it back. Again, the lack of denial by the campaign is telling. One of their spokespeople on Fox News actually confirmed this:

Anchor Leland Vittert said, “What is interesting, you still have not answered the fundamental question, which is can anyone say that these emails are inauthentic and so far, I’ve not heard anybody say that.”

Biden Campaign rep Jenna Arnold said, “Yeah, I think that is fair. I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic or not.”

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There’s a reason this story isn’t getting any traction, it’s patently ridiculous.

30,000 mails on a server in a restaurant and now a laptop that’s in a repair shop that has documents and statements of Hunter and his dealings and money transactions snd how his dad wanted 10% of all his earnings? No one disputes it because they can’t ans that the FBI were sitting on it for a year and now it’s coming up, his lawyer requested it be returned to his client. Or do liberals think the Russians and Giuliani put the crack pipe in his mouth and staged the video with these Oligarchs and asked them to pose? It’s ridiculous to even think that people will just ignore this.

The chain of custody includes Bannon (Indicted felon) and Rudy (IC warned the WH he was being manipulated by Russia to no avail). 

Sadly, the Bannon theory was debunked and the reason for that is Hunter’s laptop and the information in it doesn’t connect at all or puts Bannon anywhere near it.

This story is so dodgy that Fox wouldn’t even touch it.

Not true, all of the evening Fox shows as well as Newsmax and OAN are covering this developing story

Trump’s rube of a DNI, who has zero credibility

He has a lot of credibility this is why all the pressure are now making the wheels of justice move on this.

You know what IS going to gain traction? Trump had a Chinese bank account not disclosed on his disclosure forms.

That won’t get any traction because liberals have been trying this already for 4 years and that failed as well. Ask Schiff, he would know. Lol

And eventually the truth will come out.

And it quickly is.

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Atilla: The mainstream is starting, reluctantly, to cover this story.

I don't see it on the front pages of CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Yahoo, WaPo, NYT....

I did find an article on Salon basically shredding the accusations, if that's what you mean.

There's only a handful of undecided voters left, or those who might change their minds at the last minute. If you think they are going to say, "I'm going to vote for Trump because that Biden guy is just too shady" then you've got problems.

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I don't see it on the front pages of CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Yahoo, WaPo, NYT....

Now why would the liberal networks cover it? Rhetorical question?

I did find an article on Salon basically shredding the accusations, if that's what you mean.

They can spin what they like, the only thing that matters are facts, the FBI have physical and tangible facts and evidence and Salon has hair brain theories.

There's only a handful of undecided voters left, or those who might change their minds at the last minute. If you think they are going to say, "I'm going to vote for Trump because that Biden guy is just too shady" then you've got problems.

Some might.

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Blacklabel: the FBI subpoenaed the hard drive

Awesome. We know how you feel about them.

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Soooo....the FBI are now good guys? I’m confused...

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AttilathehungryToday  12:02 pm JST

Simon: Biden's lawyer acknowledged the computer was his, and asked for it back.

Where did you read that?

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What if... the dems are actually the bad guys??

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Blacklabel: which again has nothing to with what they have in their possession and what it contains.

And just what are you hoping will happen between now and the election? For Barr to announce an investigation right after Trump publicly tells him to, which will never be completed before the votes are counted?

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quick search of every reputable news organization web site reveals that this is a non-story because it is patently ridiculous.

It is the last death rattle of a broken, bankrupt campaign without ideas or a plan. Only his conspiracy addled rubes give it any credence.

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And if course the other motivation for spreading this Russian disinformation story is to try to get Trump's supporters more outraged (if that's possible) so they'll turn out on Nov 3rd....

They see the polls on Fox News showing him down by double digits - and think why get off the couch and go vote... But they can now read this fairy tale on the same website, and hopefully get them agitated enough to show up...

It's the strategy of a failed and defeated campaign...one that has to result to Russian fakery to con it's supporters...

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So what, if the subpoena someone they can just ignore it right?

Stay the course!! MAGA2020!!

Its a long course....why didn’t it happen in 2017/18/19? What’s the timeline? Priorities keep shifting.

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By all means, let’s have a discussion about adult children profiting on their father’s name and political power starting with the Trump children.....

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By all means, let’s have a discussion about adult children profiting on their father’s name and political power starting with the Trump children.....

And cocaine! Djr wasn’t just glassy eyed and high on life during the debates.

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Trump will win. You'll all lose your minds. Again.

you go to that safe space if it makes you feel better, Trumps got to win the presidency and senate to remain legitimate, unlikely hell win 1, highly unlikely hell win both. senate Republcians are already distancing from Trump many of them know that their once safe seats are now in a tight race. 14 republican seats up for grabs

only 4 democrats, 5 republican seats in danger of flipping only 1 democrat seat. lose 3 seats and republicans have lost the majority, the 2 independent seats nearly always side with the dems. rats sinking ship come to mind lol

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So what, if the subpoena someone they can just ignore it right?

with delays appeals, its highly unlikely they'll be heard before the election, already 30million early votes have been cast thats 400% higher than in 2016, votes that cant be swayed now, only 2 weeks to go,

tick tock Don lol

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Oh my! Even the venerable Wall Street Journal's editorial board has said its time for the Biden to come clean.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bidens-and-china-business-11603236651?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

Steve Bannon has promised a steady diet of new Biden bombshells over the next 10 days related to the 2 laptops.

I got my popcorn ready....

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Hunter Biden sells his laptop without erasing the hard drive and removes his password? Someone steals Hunter Biden's laptop? An unknown person takes it to a Mac repair shop and signs the receipt in his name. The laptop hard drive would be locked and password protected. No on comes back for the repaired laptop? The laptop drive has 30,000 emails? Who keeps 30,000 emails on their drive? The FBI had the laptop for a year?

Giuliani is an agent of misinformation.

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Its clear Joe and Hunter Biden used access to the office of Vice President of the United Sates to enrich themselves with China, Russia and the Ukraine.

Leftists ALWAYS accuse their opponents of doing the EXACT thing they are doing.

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The question is would vote I for my own aged Grandfathers, yes and no.

Japanese or English they are obstinate and set in their ways.

Of course, cultures collide, however age brings forth a unique reluctance to accept change.

With respect grumpy granddad syndrome.

And think with a finger close or on the red button

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oh my

But the owner of the computer store, John Paul MacIsaac, was unable and unwilling to answer key questions about how the laptop supposedly arrived in his store, and eventually, how the data was shared with Giuliani. CBS News interviewed MacIsaac for almost two hours on Wednesday and throughout the interview he contradicted himself about his motivations, raising questions about the truthfulness of one of the central figures in the story.

thats the thing with evidence its really difficult to forge and be believable, especially in a US court, manufactured evidence will get you in prison lol

2 weeks to go Trump is desperate

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/

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Hunter Biden sells his laptop without erasing the hard drive and removes his password? Someone steals Hunter Biden's laptop? An unknown person takes it to a Mac repair shop and signs the receipt in his name. The laptop hard drive would be locked and password protected. No on comes back for the repaired laptop? The laptop drive has 30,000 emails? Who keeps 30,000 emails on their drive? The FBI had the laptop for a year?

Giuliani is an agent of misinformation.

It wasn't sold. It was taken in by Hunter himself for repairs.

Who keeps 30,000 emails on their drive?

Hunter Biden does. The FBI, DOJ concur w the DNI that the emails are authentic.

Joe Biden and his family sold America to communist China.

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America's Mayor (hehe - that one still cracks me up) and Steve Bannon (another playa if ever there was one) know how to play this out.  There will be a steady drip drip of ever more lurid and offensive material from now until Nov 3.

Whether it affects the election outcome, who knows.  But eventually the truth will out.  all of the claims of debunking and Russia and so on will be proven false.  Hunter screwed up.  As Obama said "don't underestimate Joe's ability to screw this up" - seems BA was right.  Joe has already screwed up two previous tries to be POTUS and now, old, frail and demented, he is about to do so again maybe.

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Steve Bannon has promised a steady diet of new Biden bombshells over the next 10 days related to the 2 laptops.

And if Trump is relying on Steve Bannon to save your failing campaign, you REALLY know he's desperate...

Shortly after 4 p.m. this afternoon, the sunburned visage of Steve Bannon popped up on a projector screen inside the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse in Lower Manhattan. President Donald Trump’s former chief strategist was sitting in what appeared to be a holding cell in lieu of a courtroom, wearing an open-collared shirt, a white mask, and handcuffs. Hours earlier, federal agents had arrested Bannon on a yacht off the coast of Connecticut and brought him to New York City, where a grand jury had indicted him for a scheme to defraud donors to a crowdsourcing campaign that raised more than $25 million in private money to build a section of Trump’s southern-border wall. Prosecutors allege that Bannon and three co-defendants each took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the group, known as We Build the Wall, for their personal use, despite assuring the public that the money would all go toward the wall.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/steve-bannon-fraud-trump/615523/

He's set for trail in 2021...and as far as his credibility, you think President Biden would pardon him?

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According to a BBC article Trump voluntarily paid $188,561 in taxes to the Chinese government. So he paid more in taxes to the government he's criticizing others for doing business with, than he did to the US treasury from what we can see......

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Desert Tortoise

Ok, what exactly is the crime? A VPs son arranges for his father the VP to meet someone from a foreign business he works for and that foreign nation obtw just happens to have the third largest troop contingent in Iraq under the US flag. 

You mean the foreign business that hired him without any other qualifications than being the VP son and without any other business duties than to talk to the VP? And that foreign business that is slated to receive a massive amount of funds from the US, which the VP then threatened to cut off, unless the prosecutor who was going to investigate this foreign business was fired? And "son of a gun, it worked".

Yeah, you are right. Nothing to see here. Move on. Lets go back to watching CNN.

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If there’s any truth to it it’ll come out. But Biden will be President long before that, immunity, pardons....so many options that now have a President precedent. Win win!

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Trump is trying to deflect from his own ties to China.

He paid more taxes in China than in the US.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html

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Trump taxes latest:

Trump pays $188,561 in local taxes. In China:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54625422

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Rudy Giuliani has it, though many people still don't know about it though because the feckless media and Twitter and FB are doing their level best to keep it under wraps.

They are failing though. The truth is coming out.

Hilarious - this has to be an SNL skit...

No, but Trump's going to give SNL 4 more years to try to make fun of him :D

So the plan going forward is to try to keep this Russian authored smear going

You and Adam Schiff are something else, lincolnman. Do you have any evidence at all that the Russians had anything to do with Hunter's laptop? Being as how we're still waiting for Schiff to produce his evidence of 2016 Trump-Russia collusion, I guess not.

Hunter Biden sells his laptop without erasing the hard drive and removes his password? Someone steals Hunter Biden's laptop? An unknown person takes it to a Mac repair shop and signs the receipt in his name. The laptop hard drive would be locked and password protected. No on comes back for the repaired laptop? The laptop drive has 30,000 emails? Who keeps 30,000 emails on their drive? The FBI had the laptop for a year?Giuliani is an agent of misinformation.

No, he's not, zichi, thanks to the computer repairshop guy who had the foresight to copy the hard drive before giving it to the corrupt FBI, Giuliani is laying out the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

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SerranoToday  02:43 pm JST

Giuliani is laying out the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

Right.... just repeat that to yourself in the mirror all the time, or walk along the streets mumbling it under your breath over and over. That way at least one person might start to believe it.

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I would try and get the Legal opinion on this story from CNN but their Legal "expert" is not available due to some mishap he had with a (haha) computer.......

I would get their view from a business reporting perspective, but am not a big truster of Richard Quest (who has more in common with Hunter than with a straight journalist).

Brian Stelter?  Cuomo minor?  Citrus Don?  None of them, likely to tell the truth on this one.

Waiting for one of the big networks or another big circulation paper (do these exist any more?) to startg some proper reporting and digging.....

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bob

It wasn't sold. It was taken in by Hunter himself for repairs.

That isn't actually shown like with a camera recording.

from wtfjapan

"owner of the computer store, John Paul MacIsaac, was unable and unwilling to answer key questions about how the laptop supposedly arrived in his store, and eventually, how the data was shared with Giuliani. "

Even a laptop brought in for repair would still have a password protected hard drive. Access to a hard drive is not necessary for repair.

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Giuliani is laying out the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

Boy, are you in for a disappointment...

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Simon Foston

Right.... just repeat that to yourself in the mirror all the time, or walk along the streets mumbling it under your breath over and over. That way at least one person might start to believe it.

Well, it IS a gigantic political scandal. Another scandal is how the unified corporate media is able to suppress it, and how the consumers of the corporate media do not look outside their media bubble. Pretty sad, actually.

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Serrano

No, he's not, zichi, thanks to the computer repairshop guy who had the foresight to copy the hard drive before giving it to the corrupt FBI, Giuliani is laying out the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

How do you copy a password protected hard drive?

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Well, it IS a gigantic political scandal. Another scandal is how the unified corporate media is able to suppress it, and how the consumers of the corporate media do not look outside their media bubble. Pretty sad, actually.

If it isn’t fake news it must be a cover up, gottit.

Where do you recommend the truth be found outside the ‘media bubble’?

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My guess is that this will be EVERY bit as wild and scandalous ass “spy gate” or the “unmasking” controversies were. In other words nothing. A wet fart in a hurricane.

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Copying someone's hard drive is a crime.

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zichi

Copying someone's hard drive is a crime.

You can bet that if the FBI, which sat on this evidence since last year, could nail the computer technician with a crime, they would have done so. Try again.

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Bob Fosse

If it isn’t fake news it must be a cover up, gottit.

Well, how else do you describe the act of completely ignoring a story?

Where do you recommend the truth be found outside the ‘media bubble’?

How about looking at other information silos, as well as independent correspondents?

It is amazing to watch how the "left" side of the spectrum is completely locked into their bubble, while the "right" side generally looks at both bubbles (if for no other reason than that CNN et al are omnipresent, so it is impossible to be ignorant of them).

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