Trump promises Kyiv involvement in peace talks with Russia

Of course. Someone in Kiev has to sign the surrender document.

Europe should prepare for their own defense as clearly Trump is looking for where to place a Trump hotel in Moscow.

Mr KiplingToday  06:56 am JST

Of course. Someone in Kiev has to sign the surrender document.

Not going to happen without a ton more dead russians, thankfully.

It'll probably go something like

Daddy Trump: "Kyiv, surrender to Puitin"

Kyiv: "No"

Daddy Trump: "Oh well, I tried. All yours, Master Vladimir"

Not going to happen without a ton more dead russians, thankfully.

And a lot more of their oil fields and other such structures on fire.

Even in the unlikely event that Ukraine agrees to some kind of compromise deal, Russia has incurred massive damages in terms of manpower and equipment, not to mention making an enemy of most of Europe, most of North and South America (excepting the US, which clearly loves them), and so on.

The paid trolls might consider such an agreement as a "victory", but it would be a Phyrric one.

As long as he can get this war to stop and Zelenskyy out of our pockets I’m open to anything

bass4funkToday  07:37 am JST

As long as he can get this war to stop and Zelenskyy out of our pockets I’m open to anything

Yes we know you were always big on reducing our national security.

Appeasement.

It's like pre-WWII all over again, except the countries are different.

As Kyiv and the Europeans have stated, these negotiations between Trump and Putin amount to nothing more than a dirty deal. That's exactly what it is and the only winner will be Putin, unless Putin agrees to leave Ukraine with its original borders intact. Another issue but equally important are the war crimes committed against the Ukrainians, which would include rape, murder, torture and the kidnapping of 20,000 Ukrainian children who are still missing.

The Russians have been rotten and must be held accountable for their war crimes. Watching Trump kiss Putin's rear end is shocking, embarrassing, sad and disheartening. Trump is clearly a man without any morals.

Zelenskyy out of our pockets

Easier said than done IMHO. Blinken has well and truly swallowed the bait that the EU and NATO set when the EU overwhelmly walked into Russian reliance. Even with USA complaint, they doubled down with Nord 2, and titanium contracts.

IMHO, Trump should just walk away and let the EU deal with Putin, surely if it gets too difficult they can just give up Ukraine, Poland, Balkans....and live in fear from their own stupidity.

Put it another way, the EU decided to put its fate into the hands of an East German (Merkel), why should the western sphere pay to fix it.

Trump is a Russian agent,if he is not declassify some of the Trump Russia grand jury testimony Comrade

Oh please make it stop already. Why oh why do we have to be subjected to this idiot's stream-of-consciousness nonsense on a daily basis in our news feed?

This is who you chose as your leader, Americans??? Nice one.

"We, as a sovereign country, simply will not be able to accept any agreements without us,"

Zelenskyy obviously extremely concerned by what he is hearing, along with the rest of the more intelligent people of Europe.

So that "24 hour" promise to end the war was more like "maybe a couple of months"....sure....

I'm afraid Ukraine is hosed...Putin is pulling his puppet's strings, so US support for fighting for democracy is now in the rear window...

It's all Donald Dementia and Dictatorship from now on...

Trump is clearly a man without any morals.

Only if you wear ear muffs and blockout goggles. Some people had a hissy fit when deportation started, now there's reports out of California that hardworking law abiding undocumented farm workers are celebrating because the criminal gangsters are no longer extorting them, using them. They are now reporting and dobbing in criminals hiding amongst them.

So trump is only speaking the aggressor; russia win.

What other country will follow russia example? We know that trump will not backup the small country. us is a great "leader" of the "free" world!!!! GOOD JOB.

"Involvement" means US is done with this globalist project to destabilize Russia. US walking away from the march to WWIII madness of Biden Admin.

Global Proxy war's destroyed currencies real asset purchasing power, US$ buys +3X less than less than 5 years ago, thus global inflation & destruction of living standards.

Above, reason G-7's re-aligning politically, voters fed up!

Make no mistake, peace is not coming tomorrow: it will be slow-walked in much to Moscow's advantage.

The penny has dropped with just how strong the Russian armed forces are becoming. This flies completely in the face of logic meant to convince us that Putin needs this peace deal as much as Zelensky - the sole point of which narrative is merely to push the agenda that the West needs to extract equal 'concessions' from Russia, as if Russia and Ukraine are on an equal footing.

Hard truth is they aren't, will never be and it was a fool's errand to subscribe to. Putin is in the driver's seat: he is winning hands down. The best anyone can do is allow him to fulfil his objectives which he outlined, stay out of his way and don't make Russia more angry than it is.

now there's reports out of California that hardworking law abiding undocumented farm workers are celebrating because the criminal gangsters are no longer extorting them, using them. They are now reporting and dobbing in criminals hiding amongst them.

Ignoring the oxymoron, they should keep their mouths shut, because those 'hardworking law abiding' workers will be next.

Let’s remember that Russia is the winner here and they will call the shots. The US warlords will take some of their profits after a long ride through the arms dealing, like Washington has been doing for generations, before embarking into the new warmongering expedition.

A reminder that the top 5 weapons manufacturers in the world are all American, and that Wall Street rose to historical records, while tens of thousands of Ukrainians lost their lives on the battlefield

Best of all, Trump's telling Europe to take ownership of this Ukraine disaster, especially security of Ukraine and to finally step of their own defense expenditures.

Biden Admin blank check days are over, US is clearly downgrading war monger NATO alliance and shifting its security focus to maintaining stability in Asia Pacific & domestically.

Donald doing the best and all he can to please and satisfy his buddy, that dic(k)tator in the Kremlin.

I hope that President Zelenskyy and those from the free world who stand with him won't give Donald, Hegseth, Putain and others like them what they want. No peace deal without the return of all illegally occupied areas, no peace deal without consequences for that aggression! And it has to be Ukraine's decision how, when, where and what to negotiate, not Donald's!

The Russians have been rotten and must be held accountable for their war crimes. *Watching Trump kiss Putin's rear end is shocking, embarrassing, sad and disheartening. Trump is clearly a man without any morals.*

Note that one word not in that list is "surprising".

"Any quick fix is a dirty deal," European foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas said. She also denounced the apparent concessions offered in advance.

"Why are we giving them (Russia) everything that they want even before the negotiations have been started?" said Kallas. "It's appeasement. It has never worked."

So, this was Trump's trump card: all-out surrender to Putin. How surprising.

Clearly he needs to reward an accused war criminal that unilaterally started the largest war in Europe since WWII, so that he can focus American resources on those far more dangerous enemies like Greenland, Canada, and Mexico, plus implement his Gaza golf course plans.

Perhaps he doesn't understand that he won't get the Nobel Peace Prize he craves by appeasing dictators. He'll the Neville Chamberlain Prize instead.

 it is coming one way or the other.

As you've been saying for over two years now.

I guess this is a rhetorical question, but don't you ever get tired, or even the slightest bit embarrassed, about being wrong every time you open your mouth?

The negotiations should be between the US, Ukraine, and China. No need to include Russia. If they don't have China's support, they're toast.

Now that Boris and Natasha are back in the Whitehouse,only Bullwinkle and Rocky can save America from Putin

This war never would have started if Trump had been in president. In fact, Russia never started any war with Ukraine while Trump was president.

If PA assassin's bullet had been successful, US 'involvement' would likely be unchanged, given likely Biden 2.0 and thus a continued march to WIII madness.

Thankfully for the world, especially for those in Ukraine, destiny stepped in and protected DJT = Path to Peace!

The concept of sending huge bodies of western troops to Ukraine, all under the fraudulent assumption that Russia is angling for a ceasefire, was wishful thinking.

Think about the logic: why in the world would Russia want a ceasefire that puts NATO troops literally on the invasion routes into European Russia and Moscow? The entire raison d'etre of the war was based on keeping NATO away from these very steppes. Yet Russia is going to sign a ceasefire that permits a massive NATO coalition in?!!

The whole idea is absurd. It just further cements this simple fact: in reality, Russia would never brook such deals, and so the war will continue on to its most logical conclusions or until someone with common sense arrives at that understanding.

It seems to be sinking in in some quarters but not others.

I don't think Ukraine will be thrown under the bus for two resaons. Firstly, let's get the obvious out of the way. Trump couldn't less about the people of Ukraine or its' freedom, and he admires dictators like Putin and is easily manipulated by people he speaks with including Putin. But what he does not want is for himself to come out of these negotiations looking bad. He wants to be seen as the peace-maker so he can boast. He also wants Ukraine's resources. Secondly, if he does try to negotiate a bad deal, Ukraine and the Europeans won't go along with it and the war will drag on which Trump doesn't want.

I feel sorry for Ukraine, abandoned by the "leader of the free world." It's going to get much worse.

iknowallToday 09:10 am JST

This war never would have started if Trump had been in president.

No-one can know that.

In fact, Russia never started any war with Ukraine while Trump was president.

That proves absolutely nothing. New Zealand never started a war with Tanzania either.

iknowall

This war never would have started if Trump had been in president. In fact, Russia never started any war with Ukraine while Trump was president.

Well Russia attacked Ukraine while Trump was president in the Kerch Strait incident and Trump buckled with weakness, so it's reasonable to assume that Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president in 2022.

Putin's planning for his Ukraine invasion began in 2019 during Trump's first term.

According to Trump Europe must be responsible for its security and that of Ukraine. Then the EU/UK needs seats at any peace talks with Russia.

There is an old saying in post-WWII geopolitical circles, relevant here:

Being America's enemy is dangerous; being their friend is fatal.

The Kyiv regime and the spineless European-Brussels globalist class need to wake up to this reality. The latter have seriously damaged their economy, making themselves supplicant and irrelevant. But unlike the former, they have a chance to change course (doubt they will) before they all go in the swirling porcelain bowl of history.

From here on out it is sovereign countries that get a seat at the table.

PresidentVance

Hegseth is an idiot 

There is no need for such insults on Japan Today. We are talking about a U.S. Defense Secretary.

Have you seen his bio? Just reporting facts.

I was against aid to Ukraine,it was based on corruption,they should used the aid that Biden gave them, instead for corruption,,Zelensky was a two faced when Trump won,and started grovelling to Trump

JJE

The concept of sending huge bodies of western troops to Ukraine, all under the fraudulent assumption that Russia is angling for a ceasefire, was wishful thinking.

Russia has broken every other agreement, you can be sure that he will break any agreement that he signs.

It's pretty much guaranteed.

The entire raison d'etre of the war was based on keeping NATO away from these very steppes.

No it isn't. Putin didn't invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia's power, eradicate Ukraine's statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.

Yet Russia is going to sign a ceasefire that permits a massive NATO coalition in?!!

He'll have to, if he wants peace.

The whole idea is absurd. It just further cements this simple fact: in reality, Russia would never brook such deals, and so the war will continue on to its most logical conclusions or until someone with common sense arrives at that understanding.

And yet Putin said he is fine with Finland, with hundreds of miles of border with Russia, joining NATO.

Well Russia attacked Ukraine while Trump was president in the Kerch Strait incident and Trump buckled with weakness, so it's reasonable to assume that Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president in 2022.

Kerch Strait incident? You mean after Russia annexed Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration? And Ukraine attacked Russian ships--in Russia's territory?

What was Trump supposed to do, after all Russia had already annexed Crimea. And Ukraine was not a part of NATO. And Russia was acting in justified self-defense.

And then no invasion by Russia of Ukraine during Trump's first term in office. Until Biden was president.

Talk about Putin taking advantage of major weakness on the part of Democrat leaders.

Ukraine needs to be saved from its failed leadership, need to hold elections ASAP in order to choose a fiduciary. Ukrainian citizens need to be involved securing a peaceful future with all its neighbors, including Russia.

No Ukrainian fiduciary ever should have allowed Ukraine to be turned into NATO proxy force = tool for globalists to try and secure Kremlin & military industrial complex to $enrichment.

"We, as a sovereign country, simply will not be able to accept any agreements without us," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said. He said Putin aimed to make his negotiations bilateral with the United States, and it was important that this not be allowed.

Of course, it's common sense. In any conflict, both sides would be needed at the table in order for any agreement or peace deal needs to be reached.

Meanwhile, there has been no narrowing of positions on either side. Moscow demands Kyiv cede more land and be rendered permanently neutral in any peace deal; Kyiv says Russian troops must withdraw and it must win security guarantees comparable to NATO membership to prevent future attacks.

Wow. That's like if a bully takes your lunch money everyday, and you and the bully go through a series of fights. You then decide on a peace deal, but the bully gets to keep all of your money without any punishment or repercussions.

So basically, ceding land that was rightfully the property of the Ukraine government, will set a precedent that in the future, if you want someone's land, you just have to start a war over it, then make peace and you get to keep whatever land you illegally acquired.

I don't know how most people feel, but as for me, that is downright terrible. I pride myself in being incorruptible and teach my children and students to be the same: Never take money or property that is not yours; you must earn it. When an invader or criminal invades your home, you have every right to protect it. It is why, even though I'm for more gun regulations, I do side with the right when it comes to using it in their own home to protect criminals and intruders who may threaten them and their families. Let's not forget, it's the Russians, specifically Putin, who rolled his tanks and marched his men into the Ukraine. They are ones who instigated and started this war. These actions by the Russian government goes against all my principles.

iknowall

Well Russia attacked Ukraine while Trump was president in the Kerch Strait incident and Trump buckled with weakness, so it's reasonable to assume that Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president in 2022.

Kerch Strait incident? And Ukraine attacked Russian ships--in Russia's territory?

It was an unprovoked act of aggression.

What was Trump supposed to do, after all Russia had already annexed Crimea. And Ukraine was not a part of NATO. And Russia was acting in justified self-defense.

Russia wan't acting in self defense. It was an act of aggression and a strong President would have called Russia out over it. Ukraine are an ally, even if they aren't in NATO. Weak Trump said nothing.

And it's not just me calling Trump weak over it:

https://www.gmfus.org/news/time-trump-stand-putin-after-sea-azov-attack

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/26/europe/russia-trump-analysis-hodge-intl/index.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/27/russia-ukraine-kerch-strait-incident-tests-trump-u/

And then no invasion by Russia of Ukraine during Trump's first term in office. Until Biden was president.

Except for this Kerch Strait incident.

Talk about Putin taking advantage of major weakness on the part of Democrat leaders.

What? The Kerch Strait incident showed Trump acting weakly to Putin. When Putin invaded Ukraine, Biden reacted strongly and pulled NATO together.

I do, however admit, that Biden should have given more and faster to Ukraine.

It’s easy to visualize Trump holding up a peace treaty (signed by Putin) in the wind with his fake hair blowing around proclaiming, “I believe this is peace in our times!”

Sound familiar?

JJEToday 09:34 am JST

There is an old saying in post-WWII geopolitical circles, relevant here:

"Never trust Russia."

YrralToday 09:37 am JST

I was against aid to Ukraine,it was based on corruption

No, it wasn't.

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that Ukraine would be involved in peace talks with Russia, after Kyiv and its European allies warned against a "dirty deal" between Washington and Moscow following Trump's call with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Europe/UK/EU was blindsided, not even informed of President Trump/Vladimir Putin phone call, never has the European leadership been humiliated, diplomatically, ruthlessly sidelined.

Pete Hegseth says ‘everything is on the table’ to end Ukraine war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/13/pete-hegseth-says-everything-on-table-end-ukraine-war

Before the so called peace negotiations even begin President Trump as made huge concessions to Putin

“There will be a bilateral Russian-American track of this dialogue, and a track that will be related to Ukraine’s involvement,” said Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesperson.

“The previous US administration held the view that everything needed to be done to keep the war going. The current administration, as far as we understand, adheres to the point of view that everything must be done to stop the war and for peace to prevail,” Peskov said.

The EU foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, said Ukraine and Europe needed to be part of the peace discussions. “Any deal behind our backs will not work,” she said, and warned that too much had been conceded in public by the US.

“Why are we giving them [Russia] everything that they want even before the negotiations have been started?” said Kallas, a former Estonian prime minister. “It’s appeasement. It has never worked.”

Europe failed to take a side, choosing to continue fund Putin's war through its dependency on Russian fossil fuels.

No debate here either, when Europe was called upon to provide milltary aid long range cruse missiles, Europe outrageously fudged stalled.

Now both Trump and Putin are in total control of the agenda, Europe is left without even a tiny slither of politically influence.

President Trump has demanded outright, European governments must fund the complete aid program for Ukraine reconstruction.

Underworld,

Biden Presidency never devised an escape route, it dithered, posturing on faux political support , yet failing to fully accept that sooner or later prolonging this war would have huge consequences repercussions,

Allowing Europe to stand back making the occasional contribution at the US taxpayers expense is an example

Joe Biden never really understood that dealing with a ruthless dictatorship, a proven tyrant, a clear plan of action is necessary, must be a clear route to end hostiles, prepared ready on the table.

But Putin stalled, playing for time knowing full well without the weaponry with a "gloves off" no holds barred programme of usage deployment, Ukraine might as well have been armed with bows and arrows.

Trump will get everything he wants. Putin will get most of what he wants. Zelensky will do as he is told.

Trump will get everything he wants. Putin will get most of what he wants. Zelensky will do as he is told.

truth.

The_Beagle

Trump will get everything he wants. Putin will get most of what he wants. Zelensky will do as he is told.

In which you don't get peace.

Kyiv President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the people of Ukraine have been betrayed shamefully

The Putin war crimes, the atrocities, the sacrifices so may Ukrainian families have endured, to be so brutally, in such a deliberate act of abandonment. it beggars belief.

It's true that the Dems were weak in dealing with Russia. But Trump goes beyond that, he just hands them what exactly they want. You just can't get any weaker than that.

Big signal to China....go ahead and take Taiwan and the entire SCS. The US govt under Trump just approved of taking territory by force.

There are actually fools believing peace negotiations and war will end in literally 24 hours.

“This is GENIUS!!!”

. . . Trump (upon hearing the news that Putin invaded Ukraine)

For all those that would prefer Biden Admin's path to WWIII, then must assume you're not a supporter of Trump or Peace. For most of world however and most of Ukraine according to recent polling = desires for PEACE!

BlacklabelToday 10:54 am JST

Trump will get everything he wants. Putin will get most of what he wants. Zelensky will do as he is told.

truth.

You sure they aren't going to tell Trump-Putin to stuff it just on the principle of the thing?

It's disturbing to think how the GOP now views Russia. I still remember a time when it was warned by the Republicans that Russia is the biggest threat to the world. Now, in Trump's GOP, Russia is viewed as an ally and friend. However, I'm not surprised since Putin and Trump have a lot in common.

Trump will get everything he wants. Putin will get most of what he wants. Zelensky will do as he is told.

truth.

More like;

Putin gets Ukraine...now that he has his Poodle in the WH...

Zelemsky gets to fall "accidently" from an 8th story window...

Trump gets back SOME of the "kompromat" that Putin holds on him...

Trump promises Kyiv involvement in peace talks with Russia

What a friend and partner Ukraine has in the United States! Asked what sacrifices Russia would have to make in a peach agreement trump came up empty! No more needs to be said.

Fair guess is Trump is just saying they will have a seat at the table for show.

He and his team have already hinted at the huge legitimacy problem walking around in Kyiv - Putin won't sign anything worthless and one suspects nor would Washington.

There is another relevant expression: beggars can't be choosers.

This means entities that try to hock mineral resources they don't even control.

JJE

Fair guess is Trump is just saying they will have a seat at the table for show.

If Zelenskyy isn't there, there is no peace.

He and his team have already hinted at the huge legitimacy problem walking around in Kyiv - Putin won't sign anything worthless and one suspects nor would Washington.

There is no legitimacy problem. In any case, Putin is an illegitimate president, being in office over the maximum number of terms.

Trump has shown how weak & easily manipulated he is,

& he will go down in history as the president who bowed down to Russia, & basically kissed its ring.

JFK would be turning in his grave, after staring Khrushchev down