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© Copyright 2017 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Trump pushes GOP leaders for fast action on health care
By ERICA WERNER WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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CrazyJoe
Trump expects the "GOP" or "Congress" to come up with a replacement plan? What happened, his 'beautiful', 'so good' plan is too good for us, so it has to be held back, under wraps?
nostromo
a taste of things to come no doubt.... confusion how democracy and government processes actually work... it's not a game show Donald..
Laguna
Trump has promised to expand the insured rate. The GOP is ideologically opposed to the measures required to do so.
Big clash coming.
SuperLib
"We will have an Obamacare replacement plan soon."
The GOP 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017peterl
Is this the type of president we're going to have for the next four years? Someone who has no real, clear way of doing something, but will just tell others to "Just do it"? I wouldn't be surprised if their final new health care plan is quite similar to Obamacare, with just the title attached to it being different, like "Trumpcare". But as long as it has his name on it, his followers will love him for it.
SenseNotSoCommon
Trumpcare is an oxymoron.
bass4funk
Main thing is 2017, Obamacare is repealed. The clock is ticking.
Typical liberals, even if Trump is pushing for speedy resolution to healthcare you guys are still not satisfied. Oh, this is going to be a very long 8 years for you guys. LMAO
LFRAgain
Yeah, I was of the understanding he'd have a plan.
-- Interview with Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes, Nov 13th, 2016
Strangerland
It does appear he just said a bunch of stuff without any basis in reality.
It's like a presidential candidate claiming 'when I'm president, I'll create world peace. It will be so peaceful, much better than what we have now, with no war, and no death. Not a bad combination'.
Sounds great, but entirely impossible, and therefore utterly meaningless.
He made a bunch of nice claims about what the healthcare would be, but just like the Republicans, he literally had no plan on how to achieve that. So now he and the Republicans have claimed they are going to replace Obamacare with something better, yet they don't know what that will be.
Just one more lie Trump sold the Trumpets which they not only bought at face value without question, they are now defending without even knowing what they are defending (since it doesn't exist yet).
nostromo
Trump will not be there for 8 years. The Republican party will make sure of that
MrBum
Why are you satisfied? All those years that Republicans were doing nothing but obstructing Obama and bitching about Obamacare they couldn't be bothered to come up with a replacement. Trump promises a great replacement all throughout his campaign, and what was his grand plan? Hand the wheel over to those same do-nothing Republicans and tell them to step on it.
It'll be a long FOUR years indeed.
bass4funk
Well, if you want to count lies (if that's the case) he has a very long way to go before reaching Obama's record as far as lies goes.
Yawn....been hearing for almost 2 years Trump will NEVER become president, there's just No way and look what happened? He'll be there 8 years and the main reason, the Dems are marginalized and have No agenda, No message and can only resort to being ideological and NOT thinking about the people. The Dems should focus less on Trump and focus more on policy, but if they don't, I'm perfectly content with that. They should lose as many elections as possible until they understand they need to serve the people and not their ego inflated self interests.
Strangerland
Oh, are we switching to baseless rhetoric now? Sure, I'll play that game.
Trump has lied more in the history of any person ever, and in fact, more than the combination of all lies told by all people ever.
See how my baseless rhetoric is more impressive than yours! I win!
bass4funk
No, we are not.
I doubt that, Obama's lies were very damaging from his lies about Obamacare, immigration, taxes, jobs, race relations, the wars in the ME, the debt. Yes, he's a slick talker, better than Trump, but he's a liar about these issues, smooth, but a liar nonetheless.
What? And the left have the Gaul to talk about Trump being immature? ROFL
Strangerland
When Repubs are in power, it's always our way and no concessions, when liberals do it, they are obstructionists and bla, bla, bla whatever can be squeezed in their narrative.
Spare me, when have Repubs ever been sympathetic or even diplomatic when it comes to the concerns of democrats on ANY level?!
SenseNotSoCommon
Eight years? Really??
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts?CMP=fb_gu
bass4funk
When Repubs are in power, it's always our way and no concessions,
Obama was the same, so why should they bend? They should give in to their core principles?
Hey! If the shoe fits....
They've been more concerned about the country and less on the ideology. What's the Democrats excuse besides focusing on the California smelt and Global warming?
Pretty much.
Strangerland
Bush was the same, so why should they have bent? They should give in to their core principles?
Another conservative narrative, but I did chuckle at it.
lostrune2
Do we even know anything about a replacement?
We know even less than we know about the TPP when it was being discussed behind closed doors
funkymofo
Leave Asterix and Obelix out of this.
Laguna
Not to be bombastic, but as investigations proceed into Trump's alleged cooperation with Russia and the "kompromat" allegedly held by Putin from Trump's 2013 visit to Moscow for a beauty pageant (honeypot? - no one knows yet), I suspect terminating the ACA will be put on the back burner, and frankly, that most GOP congressmen will be all the happier for that.
NZ2011
Saw a rant the other day from a Pro Trumper, "Obamacare so bad etc etc, repeal it now.."
Someone asked oh do you have healthcare, answer "yes through affordable health care act, but that obamacare is so bad...".
Yup thats what we are dealing with folks, the rhetoric and nonsense is taking hold. Post-truth era...
8 years seems unlikely.. but I still can't believe he will be President, so who knows, probably announce himself King and ban all mention of him that isn't glowingly positive.
I'll actually be in the country co-incidencetally on inauguration day..
Immigration line speech at the ready, "Yee ha guns and jesus, all hail King Trump". ;-) (please let me on the plane so I can get out of here)
Honestly, I just don't understand what Obama has done thats "so bad" from the other side.. if anything from my point of view he just wasn't progressive enough though that may largely be a result of the unsupportive majority republican government.
This would all be quite entertaining if it didn't have such wide reaching economic and security effects.
SenseNotSoCommon
Methinks the camel's back will finally be broken, and imminently.
Then we can begin the process of slowly restoring our trust in each others' humanity.
SuperLib
So does anyone have any details about the GOP replacement? Trump's promise of better and cheaper will be dificult to keep.
Usually they throw out a talking point about being able to sell insurance across state lines, but that's about it. Part of the problem is that they have heavily criticized the requirement of insurance, but that's the only way to get enough people to pay in to make it financially feasible. If you dismantle that then you will be trying to expand coverage with less money.
What will happen to Medicaid expansion? Republicans could get some numbers by expanding in red states that blocked it, but that would require the states to reverse their positions after holding out for so long. And waiting in the wings would be Republican challengers ready to pounce.
Its hard to see how Republicans can do what they said they will do.
Laguna
Superlib, Huffpost reports on a suggestion by Senate powerhouse Lamar Alexander suggesting that the definition of "insurance" be dropped so that insurance companies can commence selling bare-bone, usually worthless policies. These would be very popular among the young and the stupid.
Interestingly, his plan maintains the tax credits and prohibitions on discrimination of people with preexisting conditions as well as requirements on people to be insured. So basically, it's the ACA sans any definition of "insurance".
This would likely transfer costs of medical treatment from the insurance companies to either the patients themselves or the hospitals that will once again be forced to treat uninsured patients, and will also result in a drop in preventive healthcare (which, statistics have shown, is highly more cost effective) - but it does provide two great benefits: It reduces immediate costs to consumers, and it shows that the GOP is doing "something."
I think they'll go with Lamar's proposal. (Hospitals won't be happy.)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lamar-alexander-obamacare-transition-plan_us_587581b1e4b03c8a02d3e1d4?hauln7f1cqiftj4i
Strangerland
Which is ridiculous, as heath care is the single constant that literally every person that doesn't die a sudden death in an accident will require in their lives. So the whole idea of 'insurance' is actually deceptive. Insurance is something you get in case something else happens. But we all know that requiring health care will happen. So it shouldn't even be called health insurance it should be called health care.
Which, looking at the real name of Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, is something they've already done.
Yet the right is trying to claim it's something that people don't need, and that it's a type of insurance, rather than a life necessity.
bass4funk
The Dems didn't have to give in, look at them now. They're more marginalized than they have ever been in history.
Clearly and that's the only thing they have are the shoes on their feet. They don't have the WH, the Senate, the House. But they sure have that shoe and oh, Meryl Streep.
I'll be chuckling as well on the 20th. You should come and try my cheesecake, it's so tasty.
Ok, I have to admit, you really got me good on that one. Touché.
No, no, no...not healthcare, just that crazy particular overpriced complicated one. Hey, did they ever fix that million dollar website? Can't wait for Trump to use that pen of his.
Strangerland
That would be the right, because if they did, they wouldn't be whining and carrying on, but go ahead, unless Jesus himself can come from the heavens to call it all off, Trump will be a failure in the WHite House.
Spare me, when have Repubs ever been sympathetic or even diplomatic when it comes to the concerns of democrats on ANY level?!
bass4funk
So then why are the Dems doing it still? It's over, time to move on. Strange, you like Cheesecake?
Impossible! Obama surpassed Carter and that was a hard thing to muster!
Most of the time, putting policy before ideology, but when Obama was at the helm (WAS) it was either his way or forget it. Well, that's all in the past now.
Strangerland
Can't be worse than Trump! No way!!!
Keep telling yourself that.
As long as you have a Republican president in the WH with the power of having a pen and being stubborn, nothing will get done, EVER.
bass4funk
You wouldn't know for one thing, he's not even sworn in yet, so to grade him as an acting president, it's a bit too early and also, you don't need to worry, you are not an American, so this doesn't affect you. Trump will be fine, the American people will be fine, liberals.....good guess, well, there's always California.
Hey! Even Carter admitted it once. Gotta go with the presidents opinion on that one.
Difference is, unlike Obama, Trump wants to work with everyone, I mean, the man had a sit down with Al Gore for Christ's sake, now that threw me for a loop. You would NEVER see Obama have a sit down with George Will or Sean Hannity or a Bill Kristol. I gotta give Trump props on that. Curve ball.
Strangerland
I'm not a partisan at all, I just call out republican hypocrisy, continue...
No, it's just the right can't stand the truth being served to them, nothing more.
Spare me, when have Repubs ever been sympathetic or even diplomatic when it comes to the concerns of democrats on ANY level?!
bass4funk
If you are not, then you should give Trump a chance. Let's see how he is during his first 100 days. Can you do that? If not, then you are a partisan. I tried for 2 years to give Obama a chance, I really did, but then he made a complete pivot and did a 180 and went further to the left.
If that's so, then they wouldn't be in power as the majority of anything, try again.
When the Dems reciprocated their concerns, then maybe, but we didn't see that too much from them. I know it's hard, Obama is out and Trump is in and usually to digest something like that. It will take a lot of time.
Strangerland
You wouldn't know for one thing, he's not even sworn in yet, so to grade him as an acting president, it's a bit too early.
Because....you say so?
Spare me, when have Repubs ever been sympathetic or even diplomatic when it comes to the concerns of democrats on ANY level?!
presto345
I am now lost, the Gaul? ROFL - I get that, but can't imagine you actually doing that. And (Twitter+ real) Trump being immature, yes I second that.
Serrano
Obama: "You'll be able to keep your doctor"
Uh,no.
Obama: You'll be able to keep your healthcare plan "
Uh, no.
Oh my...
Obama hiding the truth about his failed presidency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTFkPhZ_C7g
SuperLib
So no guess from Republicans about what their plan will be?
Strangerland
It will be exactly what trump said. It will do more, cost less, cover everyone and be the best! It's amazing no one else thought of that first.
Serrano
"So no guess from Republicans about what their plan will be?"
Haven't seen this yet?:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform
Laguna
Wow. The Donald has been in an all-caps mode for the last 24 hours. His latest tweet:
Any cursory glance at Trump's history will demonstrate that, when he says that he didn't do something, he did. Looking forward to your news conference, Don!
SuperLib
So no info on the Republican replacement plan?
Strangerland
Serrano posted a link to Trump's site that gave 7 points in a few line.
To replace a national health care system.
Sounds like Trump's got things under control.
mukashiyokatta
How much LONGER will it take the silly Americans catch up to the rest of the world and implement a national health care system? Foolish.
bass4funk
Exactly! So Strange, give the guy a chance. Try it, you just might like Trump.
No, but if you look at the Senate, the House, the presidency and most of the legislators you're going to have a very hard time finding a Democrat. They're kind of becoming extinct, but if you can find a few, holla!
When the Democrats tried to be compromising which was really never in the 8 years of this admin.
SuperLib
Stranger, I saw that. It was mostly the same tweaks "that a comprehensive plan should have" but not an actual plan. It's easy to say that you want something that will not deny pre-existing conditions, but it's something else entirely to present a workable plan that includes that provision.
So, no plan from the GOP yet.
Serrano
"So, no plan from the GOP yet."
Maybe the Dems will get with the program and actually work with the Republicans on a workable solution to the Obamacare disaster.
SuperLib
That's a possible position, Serrano. I've said that the GOP won't be able to deliver on their promise of a replace!ent so they will most likely point to Democrats and blame them for the Republican lack of plans. That's where you would come in.
bass4funk
No, they blamed the Dems and told them it was bad policy from the very beginning that's why none of them signed the bill in the first place, so why would they blame them for NOT finding a replacement when they did from the get go?