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People talk about how frail Biden is but look at recent videos of Trump. He can barely walk, stand, keep his fidgety arm still, or even drink a cup of water like a normal person. Clearly Trump is not healthy either.

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Rioting, violence, and causing police to be paralyzed and on a ventilator due to the violence in large crowds throughout large Dem cities is safe. A single controlled rally under controlled circumstances is dangerous. You can’t make this insanity up.

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You can’t make this insanity up.

An example of one of the many problems resulting from people ardently voicing strong opinions. States like the US with some remaining democratic principles have always had to deal with the various examples of 'insanity' that have come about because people took to the streets or assembled in halls to show either support or opposition to an issue.

Messy and 'insane' perhaps, but states with some democratic principles yuuugely trump authoritarian regimes.

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Wolfpack....what are these controlled circumstances given "that he (Trump) believes empty seats are bad optics"?

Also, protests and the unfortunate rioting that often accompanies them are a response to violence perpetrated upon a community (people feel that it's worth the infection risk to make others notice a critically important social issue) and are not comparable to a political rally.

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Rioting, violence, and causing police to be paralyzed and on a ventilator due to the violence in large crowds throughout large Dem cities is safe. A single controlled rally under controlled circumstances is dangerous. You can’t make this insanity up.

Are you telling us that the Trump rally is safe unlike the protests? You can’t have it both ways. If the libs are hypocrites because of the protests, Trump supporters are hypocrites because of the rallies.

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Coronavirus: Fauci says attending rallies or protests is 'risky' as Trump plans return to campaign trail

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/12/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-attending-rallies-protests-risky/3178199001/

Trump also insisted that the marquee event of the Republican National Convention — his acceptance of his party's nomination for reelection — be moved from Charlotte, North Carolina, to Jacksonville, Florida, after North Carolina's Democratic governor refused to promise he would not impose restrictions.

Neither Trump nor the RNC care if people get sick. Neither Trump nor the RNC care about the racial climate in Jacksonville.  Neither Trump nor the RNC care that his acceptance speech falls on such a dark historical date. 

( 60th anniversary of Ax Handle Saturday)

Trump's GOP convention speech to take place on the 60th anniversary of a KKK attack on Black activists called 'Ax Handle Saturday'

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-gop-convention-speech-place-150627646.html

At this point, you're either a patriotic American, or you're a Republican. You can't be both.

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These crowds have been in full effect for the past couple weeks already. Has nobody been looking at the headlines?

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An example of one of the many problems resulting from people ardently voicing strong opinions. States like the US with some remaining democratic principles have always had to deal with the various examples of 'insanity'

And the President has to deal with this mess, feel bad for the guy.

that have come about because people took to the streets or assembled in halls to show either support or opposition to an issue. 

Don’t forget to riot and loot, but since there’s nothing left in the black communities to loot and burn down, they can resort to now to peaceful protesting.

Messy and 'insane' perhaps, but states with some democratic principles yuuugely trump authoritarian regimes.

And radicals want to replace it with a anarchists authoritarian regime.

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@bas4fAnd the President has to deal with this mess, feel bad for the guy.

That he's INcapable of handling the duties of president is one more reason he needs to stand down. Then his followers can feel bad for him and the country he'll leave in its worse mess ever. His followers have shown repeatedly they care much more about Trump than the country he's destroying.'

And radicals want to replace it with a anarchists authoritarian regime.

'Anarchists authoritarian'? I don't speak alt right dialect; please explain what that could mean

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Trump's planned rally called dangerous move over coronavirus

It's called Jealousy, the left and media will do everything in their power to try and stop the masses of people that Trump can pull in. Good luck sleepy Joe!

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That he's INcapable of handling the duties of president is one more reason he needs to stand down.

He is capable, but Dems won’t let him, they’d rather bog him down with bogus investigations.

Then his followers can feel bad for him and the country he'll leave in its worse mess ever.

Even Trump hater Romney thinks he’ll be re-elected, so if Dems get out the way, maybe Trump can do something to fix the cities that Democrats destroy.

His followers have shown repeatedly they care much more about Trump than the country he's destroying.'

And liberals only care about removing Trump, even if it means to destroy the country....or their own States..

'Anarchists authoritarian'? I don't speak alt right dialect;

Liberal deniers usually don’t...or at least pretend they don’t....

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Trump's planned rally called dangerous move over coronavirus

Because apparently having the rally in Tulsa on Juneteenth was a little too much on the nose.

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More ramps, please.

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bass

An anarchist authoritarian regime? What on earth is that?! Sound like an oxymoron without the oxy.

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An anarchist authoritarian regime? What on earth is that?! 

Gibberish.

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But I guess rioting, looting and burning buildings will not cause the spread of COVID-19...

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So it was be okay for blacks and liberal sympathizers to have their mass protest rallies, despite the COVID-19 concerns, but NOT okay for Trump to have his rallies for the same reasons.

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An anarchist authoritarian regime? What on earth is that?!

Anarchy means living without a government or regime.

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An anarchist authoritarian regime? What on earth is that?! Sound like an oxymoron without the oxy.

Radicals want to replace it with a lawless authoritarian regime and anarchist society, in other words mob rule.

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 in other words mob rule.

Thanks for interpreting and translating. That reminds me of the scene from 'Blazing Saddles' when authentic frontier gibberish was explained.

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A single controlled rally under controlled circumstances is dangerous.

A rally by the President of the country where neither he not his followers will wear masks, is controlled??

You can’t make this insanity up.

Yes we saw Pence's pictures, not a mask in sight, you can't make this insanity up!!!!!

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Its not a rally, its an anti-Dem "protest".

Problem solved.

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An anarchist authoritarian regime?

Anarchists don’t believe in centralized authority. Authoritarians believe In centralized authority above all else.

That’s not “liberals” denying anything. It’s just the facts.

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Trump’s rally will be held indoors, at a 19,000-seat arena that has canceled all other events through the end of July. Scientists believe the virus spreads far more easily in crowded enclosed spaces than it does outdoors, where circulating air has a better chance of dispersing virus particles.

Really? I thought our President, and many of the Trump supporters here, said the virus had "magically disappeared? Gone....over.....finished.... ???????

Trump’s rallies typically draw tens of thousands of supporters. They usually stand outside in line for hours before passing through airport-style security and cramming into an arena, where they sit side by side or stand shoulder to shoulder. The rallies are typically raucous, with much shouting, cheering and chanting. Some people dance and jeer at reporters. Sometimes protesters are met with violence before they are removed by security.

No problem - I bet every one of these Trump fans have had their Clorox injection - so what's to be afraid of?

Many attendees are older, which would put them at higher risk of severe complications from COVID-19. It’s not unusual for several individuals in the crowd to require medical attention when the temperature rises.

Yep, and I hope they don't have any "ramps"...

Trump has made clear that he believes empty seats are bad optics. “I can’t imagine a rally where you have every fourth seat full. Every — every six seats are empty for every one that you have full. That wouldn’t look too good,” he said in April.

Dang straight - we can't have no bad optics - so pack 'em in and let that virus waft over the whole crowd...

“By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present,” the campaign advised those signing up for the rally. “By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.” liable for illness or injury.

In other words, that virus that we told you that has "magically disappeared? Well, if you get it anyway at our rally, and rack up a $1 million dollar medical bill like one COVID patient did recently, you can't sue us or take us to court...

https://time.com/5853392/million-dollars-covid-19-treatment-seattle/

Sorry suckers...but keep waiving those Trump 2020 banners and Confederate flags...

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liberals werent concerned about the virus at all during any rioting and looting.

no reason to concern yourself over it now. Trump 2020.

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HCSO needs help identifying hundreds of Walmart looters.

No problem here, right? plus thats more people than attend a Biden rally. So he can have a rally too if he is upset about Trump filling up 19,000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ38ZyidZDs

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Blacklabel

liberals werent concerned about the virus at all during any rioting and looting.

no reason to concern yourself over it now. Trump 2020.

And the cops weren't concerned about the virus when they were perched on Floyd's neck.

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liberals werent concerned about the virus at all during any rioting and looting.

Framing an issue as some imaged all, usually the spectres of obamahillarylibsanti-fascists doing something results in bang on apt counters like:

*And the cops weren't concerned about the virus when they were perched on Floyd's neck***.**

But I know, alt right dialect speakers are only speaking to each other and their fellow intellectually vulnerable audiences.

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liberals werent concerned about the virus at all during any rioting and looting.

I guess all the pro-Trump white supremacists and militia groups that were doing all the violent looting didn't care either...

So he can have a rally too if he is upset about Trump filling up 19,000.

Filling what? 19,000 Hospital beds? Or are you still saying the virus has "magically disappeared"?

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Yes, the coronavirus magically disappeared for everything liberals cared about.

It disappeared as an excuse to have mail in voting only. gone as the excuse to not allow rallies. Gone as a way to keep Biden in the basement. Gone as a way to negatively impact the economy. Disappeared as a way to keep people unemployed and businesses closes. Gone as a way to allow Dem governors to issue restrictive executive orders to allow hairdressers and women with kids in the park to be arrested. No more Fauci, no more daily running total death counts posted.

All gone.

Its now only a virus, like many other viruses.

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It's understandable why the democrats and their cheerleaders in the MSM are feverishly working overtime putting out the word to keep this weekend's event from taking place. So, far, there are 800,000 ticket requests for Sarurday's peaceful protest in Tulsa. Meanwhile, the DNC is scrambling to find a venue small enough to fill up with paid attendees for their presumptive presidential candidate.

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Zero evidence of this. total misinformation. I posted a Walmart video of 200 people looting. None of them fit this profile.

I guess all the pro-Trump white supremacists and militia groups that were doing all the violent looting didn't care either...

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HalwickToday  09:32 am JST

So it was be okay for blacks and liberal sympathizers to have their mass protest rallies, despite the COVID-19 concerns, but NOT okay for Trump to have his rallies for the same reasons.

It's a bit much to expect the lefties to be logical and consistent. It's all about the side.

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Yes, the coronavirus magically disappeared for everything liberals cared about.

Really? Hmmmmm......

BlacklabelJune 8  11:49 am JST

regardless, the coronavirus is gone now in the USA. magically disappeared, just like Trump said.

Of course, this is being reported today....

Hospitals in Arizona have been urged to activate emergency plans to cope with a flood of coronavirus patients. On Saturday, Florida saw its largest single-day count of cases since the pandemic began. And in Texas, cases are rising swiftly around the largest cities, including Houston, San Antonio and Dallas. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-cases-spike-across-sun-belt-as-economy-lurches-into-motion/ar-BB15sBfI

All red states......care to explain that to us?

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omg - the content of wavier, see how much trump care about his supporters.

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“With a little bad luck, that scenario could end in the seeding of community outbreaks of COVID-19 across the U.S.,” she said.

Thanks to the US taxpayers, Trump has the best healthcare in the country, healthcare as good as the best anywhere in the world, healthcare that could be called 'elite'.

Still, who knows what could happen to a 75 year old at a large, emotionally charged rally like this where any number of attendees could well be virus carriers.

I think the accounts of Trump having trouble walking down a ramp and drinking water were somewhat exaggerated, but they could be further indications he's an aging male, someone whose physical health is increasingly suspect.

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the riots, looting and the funeral tour.

All red states......care to explain that to us?

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An anarchist authoritarian regime? What on earth is that?! Sound like an oxymoron without the oxy.

Yeah, most liberals would say that. Lol

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Anarchists don’t believe in centralized authority.

They don’t even know what to believe in besides brawling and yelling and nothing else.

Authoritarians believe In centralized authority above all else. 

So order is just plain wrong?

That’s not “liberals” denying anything. It’s just the facts

More opinionated so called liberal facts...lol

Thanks for interpreting and translating. That reminds me of the scene from 'Blazing Saddles' when authentic frontier gibberish was explained.

Blazing Saddles? Gibberish, yeah...lol

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Anarchy is actually more than bawling and yelling.

https://www.amazon.com/Conscience-Anarchist-Good-Bye-State-Society/dp/1935942026

Aren’t we all arnachists?

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bass4funk

Anarchists don’t believe in centralized authority.

They don’t even know what to believe in besides brawling and yelling and nothing else.

A little reading will help you to understand what anarchy really means. I suggest you start with reading about Nestor Makhno. There are several good books about him.

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the riots, looting and the funeral tour.

What? You said the riots and looting only occurred in blue cities and states - so now you're saying that Red State governors and mayors can't maintain law and order either. OK....

But the more fundamental question, how has the virus "magically disappeared" like you and Trump say, if today significant increases are being reported by the CDC in multiple states in the US?

Guess you and Trump were wrong, huh?

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The 2nd Amendment provides for living without government.

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A little reading will help you to understand

Stop! No, I don’t need to read, I know everything about these idiots, when I was younger in Europe had my share of brawls with these fools, but thanks.

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Trump should realize he is now on the wrong side of populism, and that makes him a divisive tool. Make America great again, in smaller divided bits?

Want proof?Tulsa rally. Unite to fight the corona virus, or let the virus pick off 'discriminately'

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But the more fundamental question, how has the virus "magically disappeared"

None of these thugs have fallen ill over these attacks, so there’s your proof.

Aren’t we all arnachists?

No.

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the looting, riot and funeral tour, I told you. Prior to those starting 2.5 weeks ago, there was no increase.

Guess you and Trump were wrong, huh?

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“By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present,” the campaign advised those signing up for the rally. “By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.” liable for illness or injury.

So, any of the Trump supporters here care to explain this one to us?

Trump and some supporters here said the virus has "magically disappeared" - as in done, finished over...

So;

1) Why is this waiver needed? If the virus has disappeared, then no one at a Trump rally should have to worry about catching it - right? Why is Trump telling his supporters one one-hand, don't worry about the virus, but on the other hand saying; "if you catch it at my rally, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE".....

2) Today the CDC is reporting massive increases in virus cases in multiple states, and the CDC and Dr Fauci have said that large closed venues should be avoided. So why is Trump putting his supporters in danger by holding this rally?

We'll be waiting...

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None of these thugs have fallen ill over these attacks, so there’s your proof.

Unless you know each one of them personally, I doubt you can make that statement.

Not sure of the Klansmen at Michigan though, care to share some updates!!

Feel sorry for the people of Tulsa though, so many ignorant bigots are going to be there, will be a miracle if they don't bring their disease with them!!!

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1)waiver is needed to prevent liberals from attending then claiming they got coronavirus at the event.

2)What has Fauci and/or the CDC ever been right about? Where was Fauci during all the riots and looting? Fauci flip flops daily depending on which master he is trying to please.

The rioters and looters exposed themsleves to corona. They wont be at the rally. different population group.

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finished, over as a Dem narrative to try to control Americans freedom of movement and impact the election. After all that rioting and looting and the Dem hypocrisy, no one will ever agree to stay home or close their business ever again. Thanks liberals.

as in done, finished over...

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Guess you and Trump were wrong, huh?

he looting, riot and funeral tour, I told you. Prior to those starting 2.5 weeks ago, there was no increase.

2.5 weeks ago? You said just last week on Jun 8th that; "regardless, the coronavirus is gone now in the USA. magically disappeared, just like Trump said.

So, you've said the virus has "magically disappeared", and also that it hasn't.

So, what is it - has it disappeared - yes or no?

If the answer is yes, then explain all the increases in red states...

If the answer is no, then admit your statement on 8 Jun was wrong...

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gone, as a Dem narrative. magically disappeared. Gone from CNN, Fauci disappeared, no increases in cases whatsoever, there was even a day NY had ZERO deaths. Gone. as a narrative. to justify stay at home orders and no in person voting and let Biden stay in the basement until after the election. That is all gone.

Not gone from the world, as a virus. I dont know how much more simply I can explain.

If the active cases are increasing again, its due to the riots and looting which started 2.5 weeks ago.

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kind of one sided when the liberal states are 10 of the top 12 in death rate.

If the answer is yes, then explain all the increases in red states...

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Good luck sleepy Joe!

at least he can drink a cup of water and walk without stumbling, Trumps wont last another 4 yrs, a stroke or heart attack is high probability given is health and age. Trumps father died of Alzheimer's

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bass4funk

A little reading will help you to understand

Stop! No, I don’t need to read, I know everything about these idiots, when I was younger in Europe had my share of brawls with these fools, but thanks.

That might be so but you don't seem to understand what anarchy is, a term you throw around daily.

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A little reading will help you to understand 

Stop! No, I don’t need to read

Everybody needs to read. Particularly people who post things like ‘authoritarian anarchists’.

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kind of one sided when the liberal states are 10 of the top 12 in death rate.

totally understandable when the vast majority of international and tourism flights land in Democrat states

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yes, reopened on 1 May and had 1 month with no spike in cases. until NOW. Fauci always claiming 2 weeks as the time needed to know something has happened, right?

so did anything unusual happen starting around 2 weeks ago? or did everyone continue to stay home and social distance?

yes these states opened before any black lives matter protests

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Saturday's peaceful protest in Tulsa will mark the beginning of the end of the road to 270 electoral votes for whomever is the democrats presidential candidate winds up being. Some friendly advice to the liberal posters -- both foreign and domestic -- visiting this site: As tempting as it may be, stay off the roofs of tall buildings on the day after DJT gets re-elected in November.

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Not gone from the world, as a virus. I dont know how much more simply I can explain.

Well thanks - it took a while but we finally got it - the answer is no; the virus has not "magically disappeared"...

So the statement you made on 8 Jun; "regardless, the coronavirus is gone now in the USA. magically disappeared, just like Trump said" was incorrect....

Would be nice to get an apology for posting incorrect information but your admission you were wrong will suffice....

Thanks...

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media: Its Juneteenth! (which few have really even heard of- see black community spokesman Joe Biden speak and get it totally wrong). How insensitive!

So Trump changes it to the next day. "Trump backs down!! But its still the day after Juneteenth. How insensitive!"

Basically any date in any location is unacceptable.

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the answer is actually yes, it magically disappeared. for the reasons I stated.

the answer is no; the virus has not "magically disappeared"...

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Basically any date in any location is unacceptable.

The above yet another example of a partisan extremist seeing an issue as binary, all or nothing. SMH

regardless, the coronavirus is gone now in the USA. magically disappeared, just like Trump said"

Not surprising Trump's true believing followers post messages like the above. Cult of personality, after all. How have they worked out in the past? How about today?

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As tempting as it may be, stay off the roofs of tall buildings on the day after DJT gets re-elected in November.

Since dear leader trump will not get re-elected you can keep the advice to yourself.

However you can let the Klansmen know that they need to run after January 2021....

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Joe Biden just confirmed he has absolutely no idea what Juneteenth is – or where the Tulsa massacre even happened.

President Trump is "going down to Texas on Juneteenth, right? First major massacre, literally speaking, of Black Wall Street years ago, and he's going to have a rally," Biden said at his event in Philadelphia today.

There are just a few problems with this: The President is in Texas today, not on June 19. The massacre he is referencing occurred on May 31 and June 1, not on Juneteenth. And it did not occur in Texas.

Biden’s staff clearly prepped him to politically weaponize Juneteenth today, but their attack requires so much dot connecting that Sleepy Joe got confused and forgot his lines.

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the answer is actually yes, it magically disappeared. for the reasons I stated.

I think mass consumption of bleach might have something to do with it.

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Unless you know each one of them personally, I doubt you can make that statement.

Seeing the destruction across the country and the mess they left, I can and just did.

Not sure of the Klansmen at Michigan though, care to share some updates!!

One idiot against thousands....ok...

Feel sorry for the people of Tulsa though, so many ignorant bigots are going to be there, will be a miracle if they don't bring their disease with them!!!

Then that means according to your medical diagnosis, all the thugs rioting and looting will become infected....wow.

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That might be so but you don't seem to understand what anarchy is,

I do, turn on the TV, if you can’t see the carnage then you are willfully blind.

a term you throw around daily.

Not enough actually.

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Well, we can't seem to get any answers to this one - Trump supporters?

1) Why is this waiver needed? If the virus has disappeared, then no one at a Trump rally should have to worry about catching it - right? Why is Trump telling his supporters one one-hand, don't worry about the virus, but on the other hand saying; "if you catch it at my rally, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE".....

2) Today the CDC is reporting massive increases in virus cases in multiple states, and the CDC and Dr Fauci have said that large closed venues should be avoided. So why is Trump putting his supporters in danger by holding this rally?

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