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For those who say that Trump is "anti-Muslim" then here's a bit of information for you. In Dearborn MI, 41 percent of voters are Arab-American and Trump beat Kasich by roughly 10 points, with 39 percent to the Ohio governor’s 29 percent. More surprisingly, a Jewish man (Sanders) beat Hillary claimed an uncontested lead there with 59 percent of the vote to Hillary Clinton’s 39 percent.

I guess the media has it wrong on the supporters of Trump and Hillary.

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The MSM tries to sway the less informed with inflated or distorted stories. To paint Trump racist is to their agenda and it is easily seen daily on JT comments calling him racist and every other inflammatory adjective the MSM reports.

Same logic applies to the preceived Golden Gal. She is vastly experienced and full of accomplishments. I still have trouble finding them but MSM says she has so it must be true.

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To All Republican voters in America

I was watchng the Republican candidates press conference filled with substances (whose hands are bigger?) last night, it is sad to say that you Republican voters might want to call this an election, but the rest of the world is viewing this as your IQ Test. And this is not looking good at all . It is becoming an entertaining show for non intellects like DWST.

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“If we embrace what is happening and everyone came together, instead of spending all this money on these ads ...,” Trump told Fox News. “If everyone came together, no one could beat the Republican Party. We would walk into Washington.”

Embrace the racism America!

After the Bush/Cheney disaster from the GOP/Tea why bother with elections? Aren't they just a bunch of people expressing the consent of the governed?

That's probably what's been wrong with the loser Americans all along.

Elections sound like another name for something else the GOP/Tea has been trying so hard to jam through Congress for thirty years. Enough foreplay already. Cut to the chase.

Trump is finally giving the bigots their rightful position of following everything Trump tells them to swear loyalty oaths to.

That's called efficiency and if anything else is discussed the terrorists win. Don't VOTE! Take the government that is yours! Erect Trump!

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Trump, a former reality TV star, has peppered his campaign with put-downs of rivals and critics. Many mainstream Republicans have been offended by his statements on Muslims, immigrants and women and alarmed by his threats to international trade deals.

Former reality TC star...?

Anyhoos, 20 years of ignorant, racist fear-monfering and villification and now they act shocked? Its laughable for the Republican party to look at 'former' reality TV star Donald Trump, and his nativist, know-nothing pig-ignorant and furious supporters, and claim "Oh, mys! What has become of these people!"

The good news: there simply are not enough of them to win the presidendency. But they don't know that.

Which makes all this all the more delicious.

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No one needs to paint Trump as racist - he already jumped in the paint bucket of racism all by his self.

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America politics are shaping economic policies into more protectionist in nature and less free trade. Japan, China and Mexico which have huge trade surpluses with US will be the main focus. Expect rough and tough trade talks from next year onwards, and pressure on Yen, Yuan and Peso to appreciate. Trump or Clinton will not make much of a difference, though on surface Trump will be tougher.

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Embrace the racism America!

I guess you missed the first post to this thread. So you are telling me that the Muslims who voted for Trump in Dearborn don't know what they are doing and are just "sell outs" trying to curry favor with the whites?

It's thinking like that is what is holding America back.

I was watchng the Republican candidates press conference filled with substances (whose hands are bigger?) last night, it is sad to say that you Republican voters might want to call this an election, but the rest of the world is viewing this as your IQ Test. And this is not looking good at all .

Funny thing about the "hands issue." It was Rubio who first brought it up, and the MSM thought that was going to be a zinger that would sink Trump. Well he responded, and it backfired on the MSM and Rubio and just like the failed attempt by Romney to make a speech against Trump before super Tuesday the rest of the voting public didn't care. Now that they have let that genie out of the bottle they can't put it back. As far as the rest of the world goes, I have seen some of the political games played in various elections, like the killing of opposition candidates in places like Mexico, and the bag of tricks used by Japan politicians and what is going on in the USA is mild as compared to them. Besides, who cares what the rest of the world thinks. Posters here on JT are quick to point out when an American says "this is how we do it in the USA" we get the responses back on the world doesn't run the way or cares what the USA thinks, but now we should be concerned with how they view US political elections. I don't care what they think.

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I guess you missed the first post to this thread. So you are telling me that the Muslims who voted for Trump in Dearborn don't know what they are doing and are just "sell outs" trying to curry favor with the whites?

You are the only one who has made that claim.

And going back to your original comment:

In Dearborn MI, 41 percent of voters are Arab-American and Trump beat Kasich by roughly 10 points, with 39 percent to the Ohio governor’s 29 percent. More surprisingly, a Jewish man (Sanders) beat Hillary claimed an uncontested lead there with 59 percent of the vote to Hillary Clinton’s 39 percent.

So you've pointed out that a certain percentage of the voters are Muslim. And you pointed out that Trump won in Michigan. What you haven't shown is how many (if any) Dearborn Muslims voted for Trump. The 'evidence' you've given doesn't lead to the conclusion you've made.

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Donald Trump is being supported by the people of the US-it's great to see the will of the people taking precedence.....

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There is huge blow-back from the rainbow Rubio "bubble-boy" hands thing. Most people like Trump have no idea what he is talking about so it seems like a funny or bizarre thing.

http://www.phibetaiota.net/2016/01/wayne-madsen-marco-rubio-homosexual-update-with-photos/

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In January, Graham called a choice between Trump or Cruz like “being shot or poisoned.” - article

There is far too much attention being placed on substance in political deliberation.

Being shot or poisoned by the GOP/Tea isn't important as long as one of them gets done and soon.

Actually, President Obama could hand over the keys to the White House next week since there's nothing left for Americans to decide about anything. Trump has already taken care of all that and that is the promise of an America with a Trump Presidency. GO for it!

Trump cuts through all that thinking stuff and renders a purified rage of disgust with anything even close to rational analysis and fancy talk. Just like his sponsor FOXNews.

This is the krypton the GOP/Tea has longed for. Donald J. Trump, the Decider in Chief. (Bush was clearly too weak to give the GOP/Tea what America really deserves, just look at the results.).

The U.S. Constitution is only a list of suggestions anyway.

It's better to have Trump tell Americans what to torture than the inefficient process of engaging the brain; the least useful organ Americans have been water boarded to use like in 'Old Europe' and some lesser known vacation spots.

That's why Americans threw those people out anyway. Washington didn't chop down the cherry tree to make some big point, but to get started on the wall Trump will finally complete, "from Sea to shining Sea", just like it says in the Bill of Rights.

The GOP/Tea has already proved that with Bush/Cheney. Why reinvent the wheel, or the rack when Trump has your backside covered?

Message: don't over think it!

Just like last time the GOP/Tea overthrew the government in the Supreme Court. Bush/Cheney and the GOP didn't spend seven trillion in loans from China to have to explain stuff to anyone. That's called value for dollar for those liberals who 'just don't get it'.

Those people who still don't get it Trump has made a place for in his plans. What could be more inclusive?

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Keep it going strong Teflon Don!

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but the rest of the world is viewing this as your IQ Test. And this is not looking good at all . It is becoming an entertaining show for non intellects like DWST.

I don't think people care what people outside the US think, in fact, and they shouldn't. I think hearing world leaders criticizing them only hardens their determination to vote as they please and shove a middle finger in the air to all those that would object. As I have said before, if the GOP wouldn't have been so spineless towards their confrontation with Obama and did what they were elected to, none of this kind of hostility as well as Trump wouldn't be here now. Looking back on the Obama presidency, there wouldn't be a Trump or even a Sanders if Obama would have focused more on jobs, high tuition rates, the overall economy in the private sector. He didn't and here we are now. A highly partisan and divided country.

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I don't think people care what people outside the US think, in fact, and they shouldn't.

Sure they should. American presidents need to deal with people from other countries all the time. If the rest of the world views your president as a bigoted blowhard fool, they aren't going to give him much respect (yes yes, I know Obamaroflbenghazisatanhitler, you can save your 'whatabout Obama' comments), and if they don't give him much respect, less good things will go the way of the US.

It's stupid to not want to choose the president that will best represent your country. Although that said, Trump may actually best represent Americans, but if he does, that really doesn't say much for Americans.

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Kc-

Bush national debt increase $4.5T.

Obama national debt increase $9T and approaching $10T. And nothing to show for the spending.

Looks like the liberals are a overly liberal with taxpayers money.

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I don't think people care what people outside the US think, in fact, and they shouldn't. - comments

Exactly!

That's the whole point of the Trump campaign.

If the American People would just not think about stuff they don't need to even be aware of everything would have turned out right when Bush had those forged documents used to invade Iraq.

It's all so clear when someone has the guts to tell everyone what to think. That's what Leadership is, by the way.

Trump is exactly that person and this is exactly the right time to not think.

Finally someone with the experience and determination to stop anything that might encourage any thinking. Just what America needs to push the nation into the end zone and fight on to victory!

Imagine, The dreams of the Founding Fathers will finally be realized when everyone stops bothering people who know everything and don't have to answer to anyone. Otherwise the terrorists win.

That was what Bush/Cheney worked so hard with the GOP to establish. Who among the Americans is going to undo the success of Bush/Cheney?

Certainly not Donald J. Trump, Decider in Chief! Victory in ignorance and bigotry is so close Americans can almost taste it and that taste is almost as good as a bacon wrapped pizza and 70oz Coca Cola served on an AR-15.

Trump is just building on the sacrifices of Bush/Cheney to make those results a perpetual condition of America's Democracy.

Why is anyone criticizing Donald J. Trump or the GOP/Tea Party? What those people are doing is disgusting and those are dirty, dirty people. (Many of whom are not Americans by the way and that cannot be repeated enough.)

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2008 & 2012 blacks rallied behind Obama. Whites hoped that with Obama, more harmony within US, and outside US will be achieved through a black President. But the increased in racial tensions within, and IS wars in Middle East and the shift to Iran speak otherwise, plus huge spending deficits chalked up.

In 2016, more whites are voting Trump....thinking Trump will re-balance and address their many concerns.

But be sure that politicians' over-promised and under-deliver. Americans will be disappointed.

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@Bass

World leaders command or don't command respect. That is important. For you, the willingness to send in the bombers and the troops earns respect. It doesn't. It certainly doesn't when those troops come away defeated from an unwinnable situation.

The character of leaders is important. Bill Clinton was respected as a highly intelligent, charismatic and informed politician around the world. That's why he was immensely useful after his terms in office ( his sexual shenanigans were obviously seen as not so important to grown-ups ). It's also why the Democrats wheel him out fire up the crowd. It's also the reason why Bush has faded into obscurity. He was last seen backing Jeb and hiding from pure fury at his incompetence when visiting New Orleans. A useless man who the even the GOP don't want to acknowledge. What was it? A 22% approval rating at the end?

In terms of standing in the world and domestic politics, you should care what people think of your leader.

Trust me, I met many people in Texas who implored me not to judge Americans by the lunacy of GOP politicians. My old Texan mate still sends me links to Louis Gohmert's latest insane rant. When I was in Seattle, people implored me not to judge Americans by the standards of Texas. I think many do care. I think you do too given how thin-skinned you are regarding people criticising the US. Check your past comments.

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With Clinton as prez I would expect no changes.

With Rubio as prez I would expect the typical conservative changes.

With Kasich as Prez I would think I would see improvement thru-out.

With Cruz as prez I would expect major change.

With Bernie in the drivers seat I think little or no change as his views are too drastic for the senate to approve.

With Trump in place I would think major changes again. I think the debt would be reduced. More department accountability. At minimum "enforced" border security. Reduction in the fed employment. And he would reduce incentive to build offshore.

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So you've pointed out that a certain percentage of the voters are Muslim.

@ Strangeland you can find the article online and read for yourself. Dearborn is the largest city in America that has a Muslim majority population. If according to what you are claiming, that all whites voted for Trump, one would assume that among the remaining 4 candidates and the so called racism that is branded with Trump and they all voted for him then he still would not have won. But he did. Also, Sanders who is Jewish also beat Hillary in that city. So one could assume that the people of Dearborn are not being guided by what the media thinks that they should be voting for, but rather making their own decisions, on both sides of the political spectrum.

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Obviously, some here still don't get it.

It's not about being right or wrong because being right even if you are wrong is what the President of the United States is supposed to be. Bush proved it and Trump will make it permanent. Anything else is just delusional.

Banning and expelling people based on faith, right or wrong, is right if Trump wants them expelled based on religion. Same for Mexicans expelled for being Mexican. Or building a wall, calling women pigs, demanding torture, welcoming the Klan, David Duke (Holocaust Denier), having black expelled and giving them a good kicking on the way out.

Trump has proved it is not about asking questions it is about having all the answers that you don't need to present to anyone because everyone is so contemptible they should first learn to obey and then make others obey. Just like a Trump loyalty rally.

That's what being a Republican is and that is what Trump can do for Americans. Right or wrong.

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@bass I don't think people care what people outside the US think, in fact, and they shouldn't.

It's axiomatic that the hard of thinking don't do nuance; it's all one end of the spectrum or the other. Zero or one. Black or white. Just like the authoritarian nationalists for Trump, his sheeple followers who seem to think this is still 1950 and the post WW2 world is so poor that the US, unharmed and made richer by WW2, could dictate policy. US uber alles - or you'll be bombed.

@Mark And he would reduce incentive to build offshore.

Are you including Trump's own companies? Can you believe one word the man says, that he'll actually have his products made in the US?

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bass: As I have said before, if the GOP wouldn't have been so spineless towards their confrontation with Obama and did what they were elected to, none of this kind of hostility as well as Trump wouldn't be here now.

I don't think many see the GOP as spineless, just a group that made promises during the elections that couldn't reasonably be achieved. Promising to undo Obamacare when the votes simply don't exist isn't strong or weak, it's just bad math. No amount of "strong Republicans" could have overcome that, unless they are grouped together to put forth their own unified plan. That would be strength.

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If according to what you are claiming, that all whites voted for Trump, one would assume that among the remaining 4 candidates and the so called racism that is branded with Trump and they all voted for him then he still would not have won. But he did.

I haven't said anything, only that your conclusion isn't backed up by the numbers. Trump too 39% of the vote. That means that he didn't take 61% of the vote. The numbers you provided say that Muslims make up 41% of the population. That means that it's possible not a single Dearborn Muslim voted for trump, and that thr 39% of the vote that he got came entirely from the 59% of non-Muslim Dearborn voters.

And that ignores the fact that even if they did vote for him (which again, I'm sceptical), it wouldn't prove or disprove his racism. It would only show that people are willing to vote for him in spite of his racism.

But again, your numbers don't add up.

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MarkG, regarding the Dems, I tend to agree. Clinton would offer incremental improvements to the successes of Obama's presidency; considering how GOP intransigence against Obamacare - a Republican-designed plan formerly supported by mainstream Republicans that has undeniably resulted in drastically lowering the uninsured rate and substantially reducing medical inflation - continues even to this day, the idea that Bernie could make any progress towards a single-payer system - as much as I would support it - is laughable. Political capital is limited, and I would hate to see the next Dem prez' wasted on a pipe dream, which is why I support Clinton.

With Trump in place.... I think the debt would be reduced.

What?! Have you been paying attention at all? Just yesterday I posted a graph (the very partisan) Kevin Drum made up reflecting analyses of the non-partisan Tax Policy Center regarding tax plans by income bracket (mid-income and top 1% for simplicity) and their estimated effect on the deficit. Take a look. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/tax-plan-showdown-hillary-clinton-vs-republicans

I'm sure you know that cutting spending is hard but cutting taxes is easy. Even today, a small rebellion is occurring in the House, with some conservative members wanting to produce a budget reflecting the Sequestration baseline, or $30 billion below what Obama and the GOP later agreed to. Their biggest block is in their own party: McConnell, head of the Senate, says that is a no-go. That is, spending is so addictive that even the GOP cannot rein it in even when they control both houses. A GOP presidency - whoever it would be (tax plans for all GOP candidates are almost identical) - would immediately result in huge tax cuts for the rich with almost no cuts in spending and a skyrocketing deficit. This is obvious.

Chait has an interesting take: He mentioned that Trump's greatest weakness is his tax plan, but other GOP candidates cannot attack him on this because their plans are virtually identical. Good read with a slightly more detailed graphic on who would get what from Trump: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/trumps-gop-enemies-wont-use-the-best-attack.html

Seriously. If you think any GOP candidate would reduce the deficit, you're either deluded or uninformed.

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"I don't think people care what people outside the US think" But that's you since you are a Japanese citizen now and living in Japan until the Republicans get the WH back and you can feel safe to enter the US again.

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I think the biggest problem with the government right now is money in politics. It affects almost every other issue, including Wall Street regulation (or lack of it). When Bernie Sanders says he'll going to go after Wall Street, they call him dangerous and come out against him. When Hillary Clinton says she'll go after them, they give her more money. I think that speaks volumes.

I'm not sure we'll get incremental change on the money front with Clinton, and even if we do, I think we're already past that point. We need a revolution, and Bernie is bringing it.

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H forgot UAW members did not like Rescue Auto Industry as automated American car makers did not increase UAW members.

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One quick point.

Trump has not condemned the Klan's racist Grand Wizard David Duke, Holocaust Denier.

As some have tried their fumbling hand at math to offer the racism of Trump's fan base is false, let the more considered acknowledge that Trump did not condemn the Klan when asked a simple direct question.

Trump's answer was "If that makes you feel better", but he then refused to categorically condemn David Duke, Holocaust Denier and Grand Wizard of the terrorist group Ku Klux Klan's murder of over thee thousand blacks, Jews and white defenders of the Constitution.

"Mr. Trump, tear down this wall."

Trump's attitude and words were he would have to look at the group more closely and he had never met David Duke.

That would be the same as saying the history of the past hundred fifty years hadn't reached Lord Trump's desk yet.

That tells the voter, the Americans and the world who and what Mr. Trump is.

Not the Decider in Chief, but the Deceiver in Chief. And self-deception is the last thing the Americans should look for in a President.

They've already been there and done that with AWOL Bush and Cheney's Halliburton gambit.

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Trump has not condemned the Klan's racist Grand Wizard David Duke, Holocaust Denier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RM1Kb2du_I (1:40)

Not sure what you are looking for here, but Teflon Don has already disavowed David Duke more than any Presidential Candidate and probably more than any person in the media recently. = This talking point is not sticking and more importantly it is a distraction to what is important.

The FBI, Federal Gov pays the KKK and has "agents" in the KKK. Hal Turner (FBI agent, paid by FBI) was probably the most famous KKK race-baiter there was. Hopefully Trump can stop the FBI from funding the KKK and all the FBI gun running to Mexico.

http://family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-fbi-paid-hal-turner-to-do.html

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