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PTownsend
Trump and his supporters will not be pleased until what is currently called the USA is called Trump-land. Trump and his gangs continue pushing acceleartionism (aiming for a complete collapse of US in all forms, no wonder he's got so much support from Putin, Xi, and the Gulf Islamic leaders) and also a collapse of living systems everywhere. which will happen faster if the petrochemical barons backing Trump continue to control the planet.
Yrral
The Republicans are held hostage by Trump,he own them
2020hindsights
This is what MAGA wants. They don't want free elections if they can't win them. They want an authoritarian state where they rule.
MAGA think: "The problem with democracy is that most people don't like what MAGA stands for, so they must have their voting rights removed."
dagon
When conservatives appoint judges who they call "constitutional absolutists" , which has been their regressive goto strategy, it only means the parts of the Constitution they like. Property rights and states rights.
Constitutional Absolutism is in a lot of alt-right rhetoric but it is a cover for corporate fascism.
Bob Fosse
What was in the water at that dinner party? Looney juice?
Boggles the mind, it really does.
wallace
Trump is the most undemocratic ex-president in the history of the country.
Has dinner with an anti-Semitic West and a white supramatist and now wants to throw out the constitution. Guess he doesn't know presidents uphold and protect the constitution.
Should ask Musk about his brain ops.
The man has gone down the toilet pipe.
painkiller
Bob FosseToday 07:24 am JST
This will be something for the American voters to decide on in the future.
And another intriguing move by Trump to keep his name in the news.
Moonraker
Forcing Republicans to choose between Trump and the constitution. We can see more of their true colours now.
Pukey2
Popcorn ready. Getting ready to watch 'Failing loony America - the sequel'.
socrateos
A sick man, a very sick man, who is mentally like a baby boy who does not stop crying till he gets his toy.
Bob Fosse
Some people just can’t help spouting bs to get attention.
wallace
Trump was the only president to be impeached twice during a single term.
Peter Neil
Termination was the word he used, not suspension.
Terminate The Constitution and lock him up?
He's desperate and his mental issues are pouring out.
Nemo
The DOJ has got a vote and they’re coming.
if by “intriguing” you mean “bat-feces insane”, then yes. It’s “intriguing”…
Nemo
I never want to heat the oxymoron (spoken by morons) “Constitutional Conservative” again.
Cancun Cruz, Ms. Lindsey and the treason possible have long since lost the privilege of looking down their beaks at us.
Nemo
So again, an Anti-Semite, a Holocaust denier, and a pedo-groomer walk into a failed politicians club….
The pedo-groomer says “I advocated grooming young teen boys for their first homosexual experience with older men, ON TAPE! I’m the biggest embarrassment here!”
The Holocaust Denier says, “SMH, I called Jews coming out of the oven ‘burnt cookies’. I’m the biggest embarrassment here.”
The Anti-Semite says, “I LOVE NAZIS! Too that, fool.”
Cheeto-Jesus says, “NOBODY out Dotards Trump! Hold his beer (because just like another fascist, I don’t drink).”
If it weren’t documented, nobody would believe it….it’s that nuts.
Nemo
”Terminate” as in permanently end the Constitution, so that he can be declared President - a job who’s oath says “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign AND domestic.”
Irony, thy name is Dotard.
Senator Warnock, I think you can start writing that victory speech now….
wallace
Trump has been desperate since he lost his election with a historical defeat.
Nemo
To be fair: there’s also multiple felony charges coming at both the state and federal level for which he has no (believable) legal defense as well. So there’s that.
Haaa Nemui
No extradition treaty.
u_s__reamer
He would say that wouldn't he, since he once was given the simple section two of the Constitution to recite (his favorite since he harbors the illusion that it gives him unlimited powers), but "the stable genius" kept stumbling over the wording and made a hash of it whining that it was "like a foreign language". So we know he doesn't understand what is written therein, and couldn't because he's never read it either. Truth is Trump is so intellectually challenged he never learned how to perform in his job as president. After this latest fascist Freudian slip of his tongue, we ask again: when is Garland going to cancel this public nuisance and remove his malignant shadow haunting American politics.
Nemo
Isn’t advocating for the overthrow of Constitutional Government in and of itself a crime?
Jack Smith: Take a number and get in line. I’ll get to you. Might be a few min…
Yrral
This should make bring charges ,it shows his state of mind, during Jan 6,the Senate should take over the investigation of the House Select Committee
Mark
"” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”"
Exactly, the founding fathers are turning in their graves at Trumps LIES, scandals, Frauds, Thefts, Tax evasion, Porno, cheating, and the list goes on and on.
It's Mr. Trump that needs to be suspended, NOT the constitution, as he is a clear and present threat to the very rule of law.
Jimizo
What fresh stupidity and trash is this?
The MAGA crowd surely can’t defend this one.
Mordac
What was he (Edward Snowden) facing extradition for?
toolonggone
Really the media ought to just stop covering him because air time is his oxygen. They can’t though because their profits are tied in with this inane excuse for a human. Dignity is lost.
Blacklabel
Trump comments have cleverly forced the liberals (even non Americans) to now actually fully support the Constitution, before really knowing what it even says.
amazing.
Mark
Trump, Trying to stay RELEVANT, again.
funkymofo
"The party of the Constitution"
Nemo
The Trump administration, on the other hand also demanded certain posts be taken down which Twitter according to Elons own leaks confirmed.
So the actual government actually interfered with speech.
Golly, an actual 1st Amendment violation by the Trump admin.
Great self-own, Elon.
Laguna
On the bright side, at least Truth Social is finally getting some notice.
Nemo
If I were a GQP operative, I’d just say “F-it. I quit” and start drinking.
Here you had this whole BS censorship narrative set up; sure it’s a damn lie, but it’s a narrative! It gets the talk off of Hershel’s abortions, kids, tax evasion, everything!
And the Dotard comes in and stomps all over it.
Now the average American says “D-picks from a former addict that I don’t care about; or terminating Constitutional Democracy…Gee, that’s a tough one” It’s not.
So Congrats to the Dotard and his cultist rubes. Not only did he reveal himself for the fascist (no “semi” needed) he so obviously is. He showed their bs story for the unimportant bs it is.
Well done.
Nemo
I like Candidates who don’t advocate the overthrow of Constitutional Democracy.
OssanAmerica
Trump's never ending stupidity-psychosis whatever you wanna call it is going to split Republican voters. Not all Republicans are MAGA crazies. And in so doing, Trump will be handing the 2024 Presidential election to the Democrats. Why the Republican Party can't see this coming and pull the plug on Trump is beyond me.
The man is is a clear and present danger to the United States. A delusional man in denial of reality (he lost) influencing the weak minded into helping him destroy the United States. The Republican Party need to put down their Frankenstein monster.
Nemo
I also like Candidates who aren’t going to be indicted on multiple Felony charges at both the State and Federal level, but that’s just me.
TokyoLiving
The string of stupidities, inconsistencies and crazy things that little Donn wants to do in order to seize power and become an autocratic clown of the extreme right is incredible...
The worst thing is that he still has his fanatics of blind sheep and his MAGA gang..
This is doing tremendous damage to the Republican Party, although a large part of that party are benefactors of the MAGA gang.
Get ready for the upcoming electoral process, it's going to be very, very entertaining...
Especially when we see the collapse of the MAGA gang.. LOL !!!..
Bob Fosse
Any thoughts on 45 ‘terminating’ the constitution?
The one-Terminator. Spoiler; he won’t be back.
TokyoLiving
Elonald will be the next clown to fall. He will end up ruining Twitter..
Nemo
Asking Twitter to obey its own TOS and not print revenge porn isn’t a 1st Amendment violation.
Then there is the whole issue of enforcement. Such an “order” could only be enforced by the executive branch.
Who was in charge of the executive branch in October 2022?
Oh, that would be the orange blob.
(So perhaps your anger is misplaced? Maybe you are just angry that he sucks at dictatorship so badly?)
BTW, printing explicit pictures of someone without consent(the vey defined Revenge Porn) regardless of how they were acquired us a crime.
little b is arguing that Twitter committed a crime by not committing a crime.
That’s rich.
Cards fan
lolol What? It wasn't the Democrats who tried to overturn the election results because they lost. Get real.
Lol No! Twitter is a private entity. The Biden campaign can ask them to take down whatever they want and the Twitter gets to make the decision whether or not to. Now considering you already concede they violate TOS, I'm not entirely sure why you wouldn't want Twitter to take them down.
lol For what? Republicans not liking them isn't a crime.
Nemo
This is the part where one says “bring it, b.
Impeach him and see how many votes you get in the Senate (or the House for that matter. You might get 218. You might not)”
I’m sure that can be sold as part of your inflation reduction agenda, lol
BTW, Jack Smith is already on the case of what will be proven. It’s coming. No need to worry as like taxes (for the rest of us, not Dotard of course) and death, it’s inevitable. Worrying about it is superfluous (that means wasteful).
Nemo
Absolutely nothing. It will sure try, but b’s cult leader advocated for the overthrow of Constitutional Democracy because he lost and he’s about to be indicted.
There’s no amount of deflection that’s going to change that.
Nemo
This is great. May I “borrow” it?
Stephen Chin
Why? Why rebuke Donald Trump? It focusses attention on Donald Trump. He craves attention. 1. Good attention. 2.Bad attention. 3. Any sort of
is what he craves for. In fact, I suspect Donald Trump loves bad attention because people pay more attention to bad news. In or out of the White House Donald Trump has always been and, now, is always blowing his trumpet. His name and place in history will always be remembered as President Donald Trumpetter.
Bob Fosse
Sure. 45 calling to ‘terminate’ the constitution can have only one ending; “Hasta La Vista cry Baby”
smithinjapan
Trump is more desperate than ever and has proven that with this and dining with Nazis. You support him, you support his ideas and you support white supremacist and nazi ideals. Period. You are exactly the same unless you rebuke him and stop supporting this nonsense.
Lord Dartmouth
The use of the word 'lie' in the first paragraph tells you straight away that this is not journalism: it's political activism.
Ah_so
Hardly surprising that a guy who tried to instigate a coup doesn't care about the Constitution.
lincolnman
Well, it's certainly entertaining watching our far-right friends tying themselves into knots trying to defend the indefensible...
"His statement was spinned by the Liberal media".... Sure it was....LOL...
https://www.fox8live.com/2022/12/04/trump-rebuked-call-suspend-constitution-over-election/
It just goes to show the depth of the cult - that they'd defend a guy that wants to end our democracy by suspending the document that has protected it for over 200 years...
Whether his saying some Neo-Nazis are "very fine people", to having dinner with a guy that said "I like Hitler", to saying he'd pardon convicted seditionists, there is no "too low" for this disgusting excuse for a human being...
While the cult of Trump grows smaller each day, that there are still Repub pols and a small percentage of the country that still worship at the feet of the Great Orange Insurrectionist just shows how precious our democracy is...
Ah_so
It's a strong word, but I think that sometimes it's fair to use the correct word. It was a lie.
Bob Fosse
Nope.
Repeated claims about something that have been continually and consistently disproven are in fact the very definition of a ‘lie’.
Just because a small group still shout about it and got tricked into believing it doesn’t mean it is not a ‘lie’.
A lie can only be proven to be truth with evidence. So far, despite countless court cases and several years there has been absolute none.
So, it’s still a ‘lie’
You’re not still waiting for the pillow guy to release all his evidence, are you?
Blacklabel
This is how Trump forced the liberal media to address the Twitter election interference.
until this they were pretending it didn’t happen.
Nemo
To be fair, he’s never read it and wouldn’t understand it if he did.
Strangerland
The reason some posters here don't think Trump is a liar when he speaks The Big Lie, is because they think that the Big Lie is not actually a big lie, and that Trump is telling the truth.
They free to believe whatever delusions they want, but then they try to tell us their delusions, and expect us to believe their delusions, even though there not only has never been any proof of their delusion, their delusion has actually been disproven, in court, under testimony. Yet, they want the rest of the world that doesn't believe something proven to be a lie, as the truth. "But it wasn't proven a lie" they cry, while also admitting they never watched the Jan6th committee hearings where the Trump-circle provided evidence and the Trump-circle provided testimony that showed Trump himself knew that The Big Lie was a big lie, and still kept on repeating it.
So even the source of The Big Lie knows it's a lie, there is no doubt about this - it's laid out in testimony made under oath - and yet his acolytes still believe it and repeat it.
It really doesn't say much for the intelligence of those who still believe The Big Lie. And you can't really take anything they say as being smart or knowledgeable, because they've proven a fundamental inability to think critically.
Coulda been
Imagine being a psychiatrist trying to sort him out!
Nemo
His own Niece did just that. She has a PhD in clinical psychology (the diagnosis of mental illnesses) and she says with confidence that Don is a narcissistic sociopath.
Nothing he has said or done has ever disagreed with her diagnosis.
Nemo
Direct quote does not equal on-topic. I know English is hard but they want you to limit your “thoughts” (such as they are) to Donald Trump’s actions.
Hope that clears it up for you.
lincolnman
This is the desperation that Trump supporters sink to to try to defend the indefensible...
Tomorrow he'll say that the military should mutiny and seize power so he can be "installed" again, elections banned, and all Dems and RINOs jailed and replaced with MAGA minions....and they'll say "he's just getting the media to focus on election interference"...
They've crossed the Rubicon...irrespective of what outrageous Trump act or word, they'll make some pathetic excuse for it....to include backing him ending our democracy...
It has clearly exposed MAGA-world to be the sick cult everyone else has always known it to be...
Great example of "they were just tourists" at the Capitol on Jan 6th...
stormcrow
Benedict Donald wants to rip up the U.S. Constitution.
What else is new?
Nemo
News flash: it didn’t. No matter what JR. tweets, failing to publish revenge porn (and isn’t an unhealthy interest in publishing another man’s junk pretty creepy?) is not election “interference.”
And not for nothing. I’m not sure that advocating the termination of Constitutional Democracy is the best solution here, but that’s just me.
It focused attention away from the recovering cocaine addict that we don’t care about and towards the narcissistic sociopath and his unfitness for anything other than an XXXL orange jumpsuit.
Yrral
Judgement Day in New York coming soon
lincolnman
Perhaps the ultimate Repub-hypocrisy....
*Republican Rep. Dave Joyce not only refused to condemn Trump’s recent statement calling for the Constitution to be suspended, the congressman said he would still support the former president should he become the GOP presidential nominee in 2024. *In case the representative needs a reminder, he swore in his oath of office to “uphold and defend” the Constitution.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/republican-took-oath-defend-constitution-175025790.html
rainyday
Uh, great except that instead of talking about Twitter election interference all anybody is talking about in relation to this is Trump wanting to destroy the Constitution.....
Nemo
@ジョージ
It’s a cult. Facts and objective reality don’t matter. In fact, failure only deepens the cultists connection.
I wish there was a better explanation, but there isn’t.
It’s a cult, simple as that.
wallace
Trump is already having a meltdown.
Simon Foston
BlacklabelToday 09:00 am JST
You know, it's funny - if Trump's brand of conservatism really were all that widespread and popular you'd think there would be a lot more people turning up on this site hailing his comments as subversive genius. It kind of looks as if everyone else is reading something else into them, though.
Nemo
ジョージ、
It does indeed. But cults by their very nature are immune to logic. In fact they are hostile to them.
True, but it’s important to remember that the Trump cult is limited to a loud, and occasionally violent minority. It’s less than 1/2 of one major party. 25% of the country registered as Republican. So even half of 25% is 12,5% - more than one would like in a modern democracy, but nonetheless a small minority. A far larger majority of both those who abhor Trump and people who lean Republican but cannot stand the man went to the polls and voted “not Trump.” His election deniers were largely defeated. Not all, but most.
Short answer: No.They’re cowards.
plasticmonkey
I suspect our usual Trump supporters here are waiting for Tucker or some other pundit to tell them the proper defense of Trump’s anti-constitution rant.
Trump is toast. If not, America is.
Nemo
So in short, The former President explicitly called for the Termination of Constitutional Democracy and his installation as President to overturn the results of a free and fair election that he objectively and decisively LOST. It’s documented. It happened.
On the other hand….
there was no conspiracy to subvert Twitters free speech. It’s the fever dream of a cult.
As Trump was the head of the executive branch, it was a legal and functional impossibility for anyone close to including Biden himself to limit or restrict speech.
What the Biden camp DID do was to ask Twitter to abide by the terms of its own TOS and not publish, without consent, the explicit pictures of a recovering drug addict taken when he was in the throes of addiction.
Twitter said yes because it’s in their TOS, publishing them would have been a crime, and because the previous managers were not sociopaths.
That’s the story.
wallace
Trump wants to make America stupid, not great. This s the guy hoping to become president again in two years.
2020hindsights
Lord Dartmouth
The election wasn't stolen and Trump knows that. This has been established by the Jan 6 committee. So therefore, it is a lie.
Blacklabel
Didn't happen.
Nemo
Here’s the quote:
“A massive fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules regulations and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”
THAT’s a direct quote that is on-topic.
So he’s not arguing for “rules relating to elections”. He’s advocated terminating the Constitution as the basis for determining who runs the government - in other words Constitutional Democracy. That is what he’s advocating here and every literate being can see it.
No amount of word smithing gets little b around that.
Oh, and all this without due process. Just do it! Um, no thank you.
And to overturn an election that his own supports say he lost.
Nemo
Because your claims are irrelevant to the underlying facts of the story and thus not worthy of a response.
We’re not avoiding you. We’re ignoring you.
plasticmonkey
Trump doesn’t just call for the termination of some parts of the Constitution, but claims these parts can be justifiably gotten rid of by dictat.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
He also calls for his immediate reinstatement as POTUS.
How can you defend this, regardless of your thoughts on Hunter Biden?
Blacklabel
that was the context of his comments, as they relate to election rules.
its very clear.
Desert Tortoise
Because he has nothing provable to base his claim on. Mr. Musk is as full of hooey as Mr. Trump is, two wealthy men with big egos and no filters who, as my beloved mom would have said, thinks their s__t doesn't stink but their farts give them away. What is sad, not so much amazing, just sad is how so many gullible souls beleive these two. They are both pathological liars with bad personal habit and no morals.
Peter14
Trump is an imbecile, no doubt about it. Terminate the US constitution. What would replace it? Who would write it? Trump? Palease, he cant write a menu for dinner, and as a failed president is not qualified to write, or oversea writing a constitution.
For those who were on the fence with Trump they now know what a senseless moron he is.
His time passed years ago but he refuses to acknowledge it. He needs to go back to the obscurity he came from, and deal with his plethora of legal issues that will eventually catch him and see him behind bars where he belongs.
1glenn
It is better that he calls for the end of our democracy now, when he is no longer president, than to have tried to declare the end of our democracy when he was still legitimately in the White House.
That said, what a horrible human being!
Nemo
Asking Twitter to abide by its own TOS is not “collusion” or any other dark sounding word you want to use from your on-line Thesaurus.
And then there’s the lack of an enforcement mechanism.
Twitter could have said no and there was nothing the Biden Camp could have done because Trump was the Chief of the executive branch.
To that point, there were things the Trump Administration had deleted and as it DID have an enforcement mechanism, there’s an argument to be made that it was Trump that engaged in a 1st Amendment violation.
Oops. (Rick Perry should have trademarked that one…)
bass4funk
Yeah, that’s what the Dems want conservatives to envision, not going to happen.
The Dems already did this with their radical progressive policies. As a Trump supporter, I support all Americans the right to say whatever they want. Democracy doesn’t just belong to liberals only.
Not so much support, it’s just that they know, witnessed that they can’t treat and deal with like the current President or more like a piñata.
Actually, it wouldn’t. We need to go back to using all of our natural resources otherwise this nation is done.
Jeremiah
Like election denial? The exact same activity Jeffries has been engaged in?
Jeremiah
Mr. Trump should uphold the Constitution because it is the manifestation of the Declaration of Independence which is the only basis to fight election fraud. And Democrats should stop pretending that they care about the U.S. Constitution.
Nemo
One really has to wonder which has more traction in the public perception:
The decisions not to publish explicit pictures of a person not in government in the throes of cocaine addiction and currently in recovery?
Or will the public care more about a narcissistic sociopath advocating the termination of Constitutional Democracy to overthrow an election he lost, his hosting of a who’s who of racists anti-semitics and pedophiles and not condemning them, and his obvious crimes for which he is about to face Justice?
Golly, that’s a coin flip, there….
nishikat
Are there more specifics to this claim? How exactly do they NOT care about the US Constitution?
Cards fan
Should, but doesn't. Trump should uphold the constitution, but is openly stating we shouldn't do so. Frankly, it makes your claims that it's Democrats that don't actually care about the constitution sound rather silly.
Bob Fosse
This is a great thing for America. The day 45 truly dug his own grave.
You 2 fellas backed the wrong horse. Time to find a new hero because you got played like a fiddle.