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True. Trump faces challenges. All that nativist, sexist, racist and bigoted stuff may play to Republicans in a state like New Hampshire, but South Carolina?

Don't be silly.

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“I think they’re all really potential threats,”

The existential threat is that the party is composed of an unsustainable coalition of ignorant rednecks and greedy rich people.

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And rugged clear-eyed individualist.™

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rednecks and greedy rich people.

Like the Koch brothers who inherited the fortune left by their father who got rich doing projects for both Hitler and Stalin, and who later started the John Birch Society (an ultra-rightwing group seen by most people, even the GOP at that time, as kooks 'come to save your mother from a communistic plot')? Apples don't fall too far from the tree. Like the Koch brothers who provide money for 'grass roots' organisations like the Tea Party (funny they 'spontaneously' emerged after the millions given to them by the Kochs), who have supported re-segregating schools in the US south, who want to stop environmental legislation so their factories can continue to spew carcinogens and their mining operations can continue to degrade the land, who want to close national parks so they can buy access to their mineral rights, who endow universities with the stipulation that they hire Koch industries supportive professors? Curious they espouse freedom of speech and individual liberty while trying to curtail it if that might allow people to question their activities. They're freedom lovers all right: freedom for them and their fellow 1% of the 1%-ers to do whatever they want.

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Bush’s campaign released a radio ad Wednesday in South Carolina featuring his brother, former President George W. Bush.

Jeb's death wish.

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True. Trump faces challenges. All that nativist, sexist, racist and bigoted stuff may play to Republicans in a state like New Hampshire, but South Carolina?

As a matter of fact, Trump is expected to do very well in the South with conservative Christians, Hillary may do well with Southern Dems, but Trump will no doubt surpass Hillary when it comes to the overall conservative vote.

Like the Koch brothers who inherited the fortune left by their father who got rich doing projects for both Hitler and Stalin,

The Kennedy's were left with money from their father Joseph, what about that? Chelsea Clinton recently bought a $2 million Penthouse, money she received a nice sum from her parents, so what's so right if a liberal gets money and what's bad if a conservative gets inheritance?

and who later started the John Birch Society (an ultra-rightwing group seen by most people, even the GOP at that time, as kooks 'come to save your mother from a communistic plot')?

But the Dems created the KKK, doesn't that make you angry?

Apples don't fall too far from the tree.

Demi should know that more than anyone else.

Like the Koch brothers who provide money for 'grass roots' organisations like the Tea Party (funny they 'spontaneously' emerged after the millions given to them by the Kochs), who have supported re-segregating schools in the US south, who want to stop environmental legislation so their factories can continue to spew carcinogens and their mining operations can continue to degrade the land,

PTown, just stop. The Dems have Soros, Hollywood, a lot of Billionaire liberal donors and Silicon Valley, so don't be a partisan! The Deems will give money for the best candidate that they think will represent their worldview and ideologies, both sides do this and there is nothing wrong with it. Liberals hate the Koch brothers and conservatives hate George Soros, it's just that simple, one thinks the other is evil.

who want to close national parks so they can buy access to their mineral rights, who endow universities with the stipulation that they hire Koch industries supportive professors?

What about libs that are killing high paying jobs to workers in the oil industry, support the banks and push the Federal government to increase the tuitions and fees for students pushing them further into financial debt, to make them borrow more money.

Curious they espouse freedom of speech and individual liberty while trying to curtail it if that might allow people to question their activities.

Liberals only like freedom of speech if it doesn't involve Whites and their rights to freedom of speech.

They're freedom lovers all right: freedom for them and their fellow 1% of the 1%-ers to do whatever they want.

And that freedom has been threatened and undermined by liberals that want to take it away via income redistribution because of their own radical liberal policies that have failed to improve the country and provide high wage paying jobs.

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@Bass But the Dems created the KKK, doesn't that make you angry?

Be honest: When? Why? Could it be the KKK was started in the US south in the 1870's in reaction to Lincoln, the Republican President (at the time) who was seen as the leader of the north and who was seen by southerners as having freed their slaves and defeated their army? For someone who's been in Iraq on assignment I expect a little more sophistication in your research and reasoning. I suggest you open a history book and read up on it. I know the right wing is pushing the meme that Democrats started the KKK knowing that most of their true believers will just blindly accept the sound byte, not look into it because they might find the truth. Arguments are weakened by distorting the truth.

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Meanwhile back in the 21st century, NRA board member Ted Nugent parrots KKK and neo Nazi propaganda about a Jewish plot to control guns, targeting 'Jew NYC Mayor Mikey Bloomberg' as a prime example. Looks like the old 'everything being Obama's fault' was a bunch of BS after all. Funny part is Obama also makes money on gun sales via his investment portfolio.

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I actually like them both. However one might disagree with them, they both speak their mind and hold strong opinions. Quite a difference to the usual Washingon pro politicians with their handlers, lobbyist controllers, and vetted talking points.

A Bush-Clinton election would have been truly nauseating. These two are true characters, quite a refreshing difference.

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The party of hate and ignorance is reaping what they have been sowing for the past generation.

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Be honest: When? Why? Could it be the KKK was started in the US south in the 1870's in reaction to Lincoln, the Republican President (at the time) who was seen as the leader of the north and who was seen by southerners as having freed their slaves and defeated their army?

So what you want to say like in true liberal fashion, the KKK being a creation of the Democratic party it gets a pass, the same way you guys loved the idol of all libs, former Sen. Byrd a former Klansman.

For someone who's been in Iraq on assignment I expect a little more sophistication in your research and reasoning.

Reasoning? As in following the liberal mantra? Or disclosing unimportant that's not relevant to the discussion? Don't need to.

I suggest you open a history book and read up on it.

How do you know I didn't? I see a personal attack coming.....

I know the right wing is pushing the meme that Democrats started the KKK knowing that most of their true believers will just blindly accept the sound byte,

Oh, No you don't! You guys did create a group that its sole purpose was to frighten, murder and ensure that Blacks would always know their place as an inferior race.

not look into it because they might find the truth. Arguments are weakened by distorting the truth.

Really? The party of so called diversity? Don't make me laugh! Who are the two leading candidates? Two old WHITE socialists, just one of them admitting it. Where is the diversity? But when McCain ran against Obama, he was seen as old, but Sanders and Hillary are.......old? And the GOP have two YOUNG Cuban-Hispanics! But Rubio doesn't have supposedly enough experience because he's too young? Obama was young and had less experience. Hmmmm....so I guess that would make that makes the GOP the diverse party and the Dems, the out of touch party. Liberal hypocrisy, the gift that just keeps on giving! ROFL

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Sanders has really big challenges in coming days.Hillary is baked well,but am so optimistic about Universities,high school students and angry young people they can do a lot to change the whole scene in States,to surprise and inspire the whole world.We get used-whether we like it or not-States is the leader of inspiration in all fields,more or less its American trade mark,.It will be cut throat competition between Hilary and Sanders.i have a hope,a wish,and a feeling angry young people will do it.

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Trump is more nationalist than conservative. The issue at hand is that neoliberals and neoconservatives serve global interests now, not national ones. Hence why both sides push for unlimited immigration to depress wages. Hence why both sides push for trade pacts to make outsourcing easier. Trump has some moderate/liberal positions on social issues (for example he's said he's fine with marijuana legalization on the state level) while taking a decidedly nationalist position on immigration and trade. For immigration, it's not just illegal either. For example, he wants to raise the prevailing wage of H1B visas so that corporations like Microsoft and Google can't import foreigners at the lowest salaries to replace native workers.

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Like him or hate him, Trump has reinvigorated interest in us politics. From what i have read the turnout has been pretty strong so far.

May be for the wrong reasons though.

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The pattern for many years in US politics was for the incumbent VP take up the outgoing president's mantle in elections. Truman (due to Roosevelt's death), LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Bush 41. So if you look at consecutive US elections over the past two decades, it says something about the lack of receptivity toward incumbent VPs: Gore, Cheney and Biden. Three different reasons for the three men not becoming president, of course, but taken together it represents a divergence from earlier times. I haven't read much commentary on this subject, but it's an interesting phenomenon.

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But the Dems created the KKK, doesn't that make you angry?

We've had this conversation before, Bass. You know that LBJ civil rights crusade and Nixon's southern strategy meant that the vast majority "Southern Democrats" behind Jim Crow and the Klan defected to the GOP. There is a reason the Democratic party is the party of choice for minorities (and no, it's not "welfare"). You should really drop this one; it was a dumb talking point anyway.

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But the Dems created the KKK, doesn't that make you angry?

Grasping here. Go back far enough and you can criticize most anyone. White people did slavery, doesn't that make you angry Bass? You're white though...

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What about libs that support the banks and push the Federal government to increase the tuitions and fees for students pushing them further into financial debt, to make them borrow more money.

No bassyfunk, the group of people you are referring to are called REPUBLICANS!

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We've had this conversation before, Bass. You know that LBJ civil rights crusade and Nixon's southern strategy meant that the vast majority "Southern Democrats" behind Jim Crow and the Klan defected to the GOP.

That's right, but the funny thing was if the conservatives had a sitting former KKK member sitting in their ranks, Dems and libs would be in an uproar and rightfully so, but as usual, the constant liberal hypocrisy knows no bounds and as long as Dems do it, we can let it slide no matter what they do.

There is a reason the Democratic party is the party of choice for minorities (and no, it's not "welfare").

Yes, it is. Be careful what you're about to say, I lived next door to a very large Black community and a good portion of Blacks were on welfare. Even though Blacks make up 13% of the population, they have the highest incarceration rate, Black men are at a much higher risk of getting murdered, drop out of school and to apply for government jobs. After Native Americans for their percentage rate, they get more government assistance than any other group proportionally speaking. If Dems really truly cared about minorities, they would encourage them to depend less on the government and that self-reliance is the key to financial prosperity.

You should really drop this one; it was a dumb talking point anyway.

I know, it's such a touchy subject for liberals. Remember, there is no shame in either telling the truth or taking personal responsibilities.

Grasping here.

What? ROFL!!!

Go back far enough and you can criticize most anyone.

Sure, but the Dems being the party of institutionalized racism, they will always make sure, government programs keep the minorities down and they're doing a good job at it, Blacks have over 10% unemployment. That's just insane!

OkWhite people did slavery, doesn't that make you angry Bass? You're white though.

I never said it didn't, I just hate when libs try to pass themselves as NOT being racist when a lot of them clearly are. By the way, I never said, "I as White." You're assuming again.

No bassyfunk, the group of people you are referring to are called REPUBLICANS!

Sorry, but that's all going through the parties biggest donors and that's Board of Education and who is the biggest group and party they give money to? "Democrats" the party of minority, misery

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Apparently, Sanders has lost New Hampshire after he won:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/10/why-bernie-still-wont-win/

It's all political theater, folks. It'll be Clinton vs. Bush, like it was always ordained to be.

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Joe, what makes you think Jeb is going to get the nomination?

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Jeb is on life support, it's just a matter of time before the inevitable happens.

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I hope I'm wrong, but I have this really bad feeling that the fix is in. Bush is just biding his time until the press decide it's time to put him in the front-runner position.

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You're wrong I'm afraid. Bush III is a wet lettuce.

Now Rubio has been shown to be a robot badly in need of a reboot the establishment candidate has to be Kasich. We'll see, but at least he is actually the right side of insane....

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It's all political theater, folks. It'll be Clinton vs. Bush, like it was always ordained to be.

The messed up thing is that Jeb is actually the best prospect of the remaining clowns.

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The party of hate and ignorance is reaping what they have been sowing for the past generation. I agree... those Liberals gotta go.

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