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Trump says he's taking malaria drug in case he gets virus

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By ZEKE MILLER and DARLENE SUPERVILLE

U.S. President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to protect against the new coronavirus, despite warnings from his own government that it should only be administered for COVID-19 in a hospital or research setting due to potentially fatal side effects.

Trump told reporters he has been taking the drug, hydroxychloroquine, and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.” Trump spent weeks pushing the drug as a potential cure or prophylaxis for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration's top medical professionals. The drug has the potential to cause significant side effects in some patients and has not been shown to combat the new coronavirus.

Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.

"I started taking it, because I think it’s good," Trump said. "I’ve heard a lot of good stories.”

The Food and Drug Administration warned health professionals last month that the drug should not be used to treat COVID-19 outside of hospital or research settings, due to sometimes fatal side effects. Regulators issued the alert for the drug, which can also be used to treat lupus and arthritis, after receiving reports of heart-rhythm problems, including deaths, from poison control centers and other health providers.

Trump dismissed reports of side effects, saying, “All I can tell you is, so far I seem to be OK.”

At least two White House staffers tested positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, sparking concerns about the steps taken by the administration to protect the president and sending Vice President Mike Pence and other officials into varying forms of self-isolation.

The White House has since mandated that those in the West Wing wear face coverings and has introduced daily testing for the virus for the president, vice president and those they come in close contact with.

Trump last underwent an “interim” checkup in a November visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center that was not noted on his public schedule. His last complete physical took place in February 2019.

Trump has repeatedly pushed the use of the drug with or without the antibiotic azithromycin, but no large, rigorous studies have found them safe or effective for preventing or treating COVID-19.

Two large observational studies, each involving around 1,400 patients in New York, recently found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine. Two new ones published Thursday in the medical journal BMJ reached the same conclusion.

One, by French researchers, gave 84 hospitalized patients the drug and 97 others the usual care. There were no differences in the odds of death, need for intensive care or developing severe illness.

The other study from China was a stricter test: 150 adults hospitalized with mild or moderate illness were randomly assigned to get hydroxychloroquine or usual care. The drug made no difference in rates of clearing the virus or time to relief of symptoms, and they brought more side effects.

In April, the National Institutes of Health launched a study testing hydroxychloroquine versus a placebo drug in 500 hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Last week, NIH announced another study to see if hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin can prevent hospitalization or death in people with mild to moderate illness. About 2,000 U.S. adults with confirmed coronavirus infections and symptoms such as fever, cough or shortness of breath will get the drugs or placebo pills.

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A study by the US Veterans Administration showed that 27.8% of covid-19 patients taking hydroxychloroquine along with routine care died.

11.4% of those under routine only died.

Math and science are important.

If that isn't enough, Trump has a heart condition and hydroxychloroquine can fatally aggravate a heart condition. Trump "demanded" that he be given the drug, so let's see if his streak of being wrong about everything continues.

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Two large observational studies, each involving around 1,400 patients in New York, recently found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine. Two new ones published Thursday in the medical journal BMJ reached the same conclusion.

Who knows what to believe with regard to the drug's effectiveness.

But given the hundreds (maybe up to 19,000) 'intentional misinformations' Trump's told to date it's pretty hard to believe a single thing he says.

Trump's shilled false hope to his base - some still believe him. The majority of the country tuned out his 'cures' after his disinfectant and strong light jabber.

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Re doctor shouldn't have prescribed a drug without evidence that it is effective.

What's more, idiots will now start demanding the drug and those who actually need it might find it hard to obtain.

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I have nothing but the greatest admiration for our gem of a President. If he says Hydroxychloroquine prevents Coronavirus, then it does.

You cannot become a doctor just by going to medical school, you become one by being street smart. And nobody is more street smart than the greatest President in the history of this galaxy.

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We all suffer from side effects from Trump.

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But given the hundreds (maybe up to 19,000) 'intentional misinformations' Trump's told to date it's pretty hard to believe a single thing he says. 

Fauci said a lot of things that were confusing

Trump's shilled false hope to his base - some still believe him. The majority of the country tuned out his 'cures' after his disinfectant and strong light jabber.

Of course, but Trump can take whatever he likes and compliment on whatever he wants, but as you said, most people tuned out what he said about his take on cures and that’s all you can do.

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I am nominating our esteemed President for the next Nobel Prize for Medicine.

He might not be a doctor but he has more knowledge than most doctors.

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He's playing God again.

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ulyssesToday 07:53 am JSTI am nominating our esteemed President for the next Nobel Prize for Medicine.

He might not be a doctor but he has more knowledge than most doctors.

I hope you're kidding us. I really do.

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Trump's personal physician is risking his reputation and Trump's health allowing him to add yet another drug to those he's already taking, including Amphetamine/dextroamphetamine salt, Valtrex and who knows what else. Drug cocktails are always dangerous, especially when taken by someone as old as Trump.

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The current occupant of the White House, who incorrectly claims to know more about anything, continues to spread fake news, disinformation and misinformation.

In this particular case, his groupies could actually be adversely affected by ingesting this prescription medicine.

One more time he confirms he is not fit to be President of the United States of America (POTUS).

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Trump's personal physician is risking his reputation

I doubt it. He’s not responsible for what Trump takes.

and Trump's health allowing him to add yet another drug to those he's already taking, including Amphetamine/dextroamphetamine salt, Valtrex and who knows what else. Drug cocktails are always dangerous, especially when taken by someone as old as Trump.

Dunno, the man lives on a diet of KFC, BK, Miki Dees, sodi pop and No sleep, Pelosi, if he can survive all of these, he can handle the drugs.

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The Trump channe,l Fox News issued a warning to its viewers not to take hydroxychloroquine. Dangerous for someone in Trump's age band and heart conditions.

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The giant Oompa Loompa putting self at risk. Can’t say I’m worried in the slightest.

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I don’t believe it. He’s too damn cowardly.

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The Trump channe,l Fox News issued a warning to its viewers not to take hydroxychloroquine

Who do Fox think they are, CNN?????

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bass4funkToday 08:00 am JSTTrump's personal physician is risking his reputation

I doubt it. He’s not responsible for what Trump takes.

and Trump's health allowing him to add yet another drug to those he's already taking, including Amphetamine/dextroamphetamine salt, Valtrex and who knows what else. Drug cocktails are always dangerous, especially when taken by someone as old as Trump.

Dunno, the man lives on a diet of KFC, BK, Miki Dees, sodi pop and No sleep, Pelosi, if he can survive all of these, he can handle the drugs.

I don't know how Trump can sleep, with all the evil he does. Does he even have a conscience?

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bass4funk

Trump's personal physician is risking his reputation

I doubt it. He’s not responsible for what Trump takes.

He is responsible when he prescribes it. Could cause people to hoard the drug denying it to those who need it.

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I don't believe him.

I want to see evidence.

Those who claim he can handle this, I'd ask if they have medical experience and with they be trying the same drug?

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Will, not with.

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The Trump channe,l Fox News issued a warning to its viewers not to take hydroxychloroquine. Dangerous for someone in Trump's age band and heart conditions

The entire network did not say that, certain pundits did and also you have to have some common sense to always ask a medical care physician, but I agree, when all else fails and there’s absolutely nothing left, I would try it as well.

*I don't know how Trump can sleep, with all the evil he does. Does he even have a conscience*

I ask myself the same thing about these liberal Democrats.

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That's great, boomer ! Write your own prescriptions.

who knows what else.

Tic tacs, blue pills, diet coke, the dyes he puts on his hair and skin...

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@bas4fThe entire network did not say that, certain pundits

Is your point that people shouldn't overgeneralize, for example say 'liberals' when they're referring to something an individual said. Or was interpreted to have said.

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He is responsible when he prescribes it.

How absurd! No, he is not responsible, because he’s talking about what he thinks is effective, his right, his choice. We don’t live in a fascist nation where our leaders are responsible for what they say when it comes to personal opinions, he has the right to express them and at some point, we need to take responsibility as adults, we should have the right to determine what we think is good for us or not good for us.

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Is your point that people shouldn't overgeneralize, for example say 'liberals' when they're referring to something an individual said. Or was interpreted to have said.

Most of them do.

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He's LYING lol!!!!! His physician would never allow that. He owns stock in the company that makes it (a lot of stock) and is trying to con you rubes into buying it and taking it. Fair warning, you'll probably die of heart failure, but go right ahead. We'll wait. 

Mr. Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html

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Trump's White House doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquinea at his request. The doctor is responsible for his prescriptions.

bass4funk

How absurd! We need to take responsibility as adults, we should have the right to determine what we think is good for us or not good for us.

So you support the right of people to use whatever drug they want to. Heroin, Crack, Opioid drugs, whatever.

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Is your point that people shouldn't overgeneralize, for example say 'liberals' when they're referring to something an individual said. Or was interpreted to have said

Indeed. One wonders what "liberals" has to do with this unhinged, shameful Presidency that has presided over 90 thousand dead.

How many people will die because of the vanity and business interests of the man?

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He's LYING lol!!!!! His physician would never allow that. 

You wouldn’t know this. He said, he does, you can’t prove or disprove it.

He owns stock in the company that makes it (a lot of stock) and is trying to con you rubes into buying it and taking it. Fair warning, you'll probably die of heart failure, but go right ahead. We'll wait. 

Which are legal that he’s had for years.

President Trump does have some shares in multiple pharmaceutical companies that produce hydroxychloroquine, but the investments are part of mutual funds that are, in turn, part of family trusts.

Trump, himself, does not have direct control over these trusts.

To put it simply: It's true that Trump makes some income from companies producing hydroxychloroquine, but that income is a small part of a family trust that he doesn’t make decisions for.

Liberals, relax, no smoking gun.

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Is he taking it? The Hippocratic Oath should have prevented his doctor from prescribing it. And don't forget, he is not known for truth.

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So you support the right of people to use whatever drug they want to. Heroin, Crack, Opioid drugs, whatever.

I don’t approve of any of that, but if they want to take these drugs, their choice.

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Trump is almost certainly being given a placebo, probably M&Ms. Which are just as effective as the unpronuncable mediation he claims to be taking. Probably more so.

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Liberals, relax, no smoking gun.

What have liberals got to do with the topic?

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no smoking gun

Then current US president is either a big liar putting people's lives at risk for his own selfish benefit. Or he is an ignorant fool!

" The Food and Drug Administration, a sub-department of Trump's own government, announced that "hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19."

Even Fox News Had to Warn Viewers to Ignore Trump on Hydroxychloroquine

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/even-fox-news-had-warn-225200029.html

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We don’t live in a fascist nation where our leaders are responsible for what they say when it comes to personal opinions, 

It is not fascist to expect a president to take responsibility for the words he says. People are influenced by words, especially people who look up to Trump as a paragon of success. So yes, Trump is responsible when people die as a direct consequence of his public opinions.

Trump has a right to not wear a mask in public, take hydroxychloroquine, and suggest injecting disinfectant. It's just a terribly dangerous example to set, and further evidence that this doofus needs to be voted out of office in November. We all have our rights, after all.

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He's LYING lol!!!!!

Our incomparable President never lies, he has proven time and time again that he is the most truthful person on this planet.

His personal stake in Sanofi has nothing to do with him taking hyderocholrorocoxoquine , in fact I wouldn't be surprise if he invested in the company as charity. The President is well known for his charitable efforts.

I might not be able to spell the medicine, but I am a hundred per cent sure that this unspellable medicine is the vaccine we have been waiting for!!!

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What have liberals got to do with the topic?

liberals = anyone who disagrees with Trump

truth = anything that comes out of Trump's mouth

Life is so easy to understand in the Trumpiverse.

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Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.

"I started taking it, because I think it’s good," Trump said. "I’ve heard a lot of good stories.”

So let me get this right. Trump asked for a random drug and was supplied it. Isn't the doctor, with years of medical training and research behind him, supposed to reccomend only drugs suitable for an individual and their circumstances, not the other way around?

I just looked up the side effects of hydroxychloroquine. Hair loss, irritability, mood changes, nervousness etc.

I guess he must be taking it.

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If a daily dose of hydroxychloroquine sulphate plus a little orange pill taken with KFC and Whopper burgers and washed down with Cokes is just "what the doctor ordered", then it's no wonder that Trump feels so very superdoopercalifragilisticexpialidocious. The only problem is that the public is getting the worst of this toxic cocktail's side effects, even if Trump's claim of taking the malaria drug sounds and smells like the tall tale of a snake-oil salesman. I've "heard a lot of good stories", too, but this isn't one of them: Trump with his irresponsible medical advice is putting many of his "uneducated" cult followers whom he professes to love in harm's way. This all boils down to yet more reprehensible behavior from a vain, mask-shy president incapable of setting a good example.

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liberals = anyone who disagrees with Trump

Mostly liberals

truth = anything that comes out of Trump's mouth

Life is so easy to understand in the Trumpiverse

Ahhh, liberals their daily obsession with the man, syndrome kicking in again.

What have liberals got to do with the topic?

Because liberals are screaming the loudest and what’s really funny about all this is that they don’t even like this President taking the drug, relax people. We still have some rights left, don’t take them all, please.

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It is not fascist to expect a president to take responsibility for the words he says.

I wish you thought the same way 8 years ago, but alas....

People are influenced by words, especially people who look up to Trump as a paragon of success.

That goes to show you how and where people’s common sense rests

So yes, Trump is responsible when people die as a direct consequence of his public opinions.

Apply that to the governors decisions in keeping people from making a living. Keep that in mind.

Trump has a right to not wear a mask in public, take hydroxychloroquine, and suggest injecting disinfectant. It's just a terribly dangerous example to set, and further evidence that this doofus needs to be voted out of office in November. We all have our rights, after all.

I think at some point in time you need to take responsibility for your own life, I wouldn’t blame the President, I didn’t think it was the smartest thing to say, but he has that right, I’m smart enough to know drinking bleach is not a smart thing to do, even my kids know this. If people have to ponder this, it’s telling about the lack of their common sense.

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Sounds good! Antibacterials, cleansers, antivirals, anti-syphillis, wormwood, untested malaria drugs, psyllium husks...you can’t be too careful.

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Trump says he's taking malaria drug in case he gets virus

I had suspected that for a long time. I would bet many politicians do, including bunkered down Joe Biden. Fact is, there is lots of evidence the drug helps, if taken early any combined with Zinc.

It is funny to see how the fake media has painted themselves into a corner where they have to poohoo a promising drug, only because the hated Trump spoke positively about it.

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Dear Fearless Leader take please more lots lots more

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zichi:

The Trump channe,l Fox News issued a warning to its viewers not to take hydroxychloroquine. Dangerous for someone in Trump's age band and heart conditions.

Thanks for the expert advice. I did not know you are an MD. Being one, I am sure you are aware that the drug is well-know, well-researched, and has long been used for conditions like Lupus and others. Don´t you think his doctor can find an appropriate dose?

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In about a week, after everyone calls him out he will announce, 'I only suggested I might start taking it.'

There is no way Doctors and medical staff for the POTUS would allow him to just take 'whatever' he likes.

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excellent. So now the media will work overtime some more to prove it doesnt work.

so all of you who said he doesnt talk about hydroxychloroquine and has abandoned it? wrong again, as usual. He was taking it the whole time, so you couldnt have been any more wrong.

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Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.

"I started taking it, because I think it’s good," Trump said. "I’ve heard a lot of good stories.”

Well, maybe there is such a thing as the "Deep State".... Trump's Doctor, his HHS Secretary, the CDC experts...."sure Mr President, hydro is good for you"....

I bet the biggest cheerleader was Pence...

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fake media has painted themselves

Re fake media, I don't read Breitbart/RT/infowars etc. Please tell us what they say.

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Mostly liberals

Ahhh, liberals

Because liberals

What has this got to do with this topic, on the drug that Trump claims he's taking?

Will you be taking it & if not, why not?

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Yes, thats the part that liberals are missing.

They must be afraid it actually works, otherwise they would be happy Trump is taking it, right?

Cuomo sure changed his tune about a lot of things once it was found that someone might be held criminally accountable for all of those nursing home deaths in NY that resulted from his direct order.

Bet he now wishes he gave hydroxychloroquine to all of those nursing home patients like Texas did (spoiler alert: the Texas nursing home patients, they lived, unlike NY patients).

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so all of you who said he doesnt talk about hydroxychloroquine and has abandoned it?

Will you be taking it?

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excellent. So now the media will work overtime some more to prove it doesnt work.

And they will fail, because the brilliance or our brilliant President is unmatched!!

He has more knowledge of medicine than all the doctors of those elitist medical schools put together.

I have no doubt that hydoroxoclroquonine is what stands between this world and disaster!!

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I have taken this drug myself many times and had many "cycles" for Africa deployments. It has been safely in use for like half a century and was perfectly fine. I would take it again if I needed it.

Well, until Trump mentioned it as a low cost treatment that is. then the media goes crazy, as always. Big pharma wants profits, which they cant get with a drug not under patent. Gates wants to be the savior by creating the vaccine. Fauci wants the Gilead drug instead. Many competing interests.

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Funny to see how our resident Trump haters take medical advice from CNN.

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No he does not

Yes he does, have you seen his quotes and tweets? That's proof of the magic bullet. He is also pushing for injecting Mr. Clean and that is something you can get at the Dollar General Store!!! What are you waiting for Trump people?

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No liberals even know anything about this drug. Just hate it because Trump mentioned but love the Gilead drug just because Fauci said it’s the best. Funny, their trial got shut down and Fauci hasn’t mentioned it since.

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Other than our knowledgeable President, more knowledgeable than any President in the history of the universe, I rely on Fox for my medical advice.

Fine folks like Hannity, Tucker were absolutely right when they said the Coronavirus was just another flu, totally hyped up by the left wing liberals. When you look at the worldwide infection numbers 4.7 million infected, 300,000 dead, you can see proof that our fine folks at Fox were absolutely right.

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ulysses:

Fine folks like Hannity, Tucker were absolutely right when they said the Coronavirus was just another flu, totally hyped up by the left wing liberals.

Did you catch the press conference by Trumps new press secretary, where she pulled out a little list of all the comments by the fake news media your "left wing liberals" where they claimed the Coronavirus was just another flue, nothing to worry about? You should watch it.

Nice own goal.

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It was all about “testing”. Until Cuomo announced he has more testing capacity then he even needs, the hospital ship left due to non use and the temp hospitals were dismantled.

States opening back up safely as well. The media focus is away from deaths now that people are realizing Cuomo is responsible for the nursing home deaths, not Trump.

wonder what the next narrative will be.

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I don't need to read more, if the press secretary of our splendid President said something, it has to be true.

If the msm say it’s not, it has to be a lie?

There have been press secretaries earlier who were the epitome of honesty even if the liberal left media did not believe them.

Yeah, who?

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A study by the US Veterans Administration showed that 27.8% of covid-19 patients taking hydroxychloroquine along with routine care died.

Yeah, they were in bad shape before taking hydroxy, they would have died anyway. Thousands of people have been taking it for malaria for decades, we didn't hear anything about 27.8% of those dying, now did we?

Oh my...

The truth about hydroxychloroquine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexUJeWmzSE&t=317s

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ulysses:

I don't need to read more, if the press secretary of our splendid President said something, it has to be true.

She was QUOTING the fake news. You do know that quoting means, no?

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If the msm say it’s not, it has to be a lie?

I don't listen to the liberal, left, communist media anymore, its Fox all the way for me from now on.

Yeah, who?

Everyone pales when compared to our current President in terms of truthfulness and honesty!!

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Like some posters here, I'm sceptical because he's a big coward. But if he really is taking it, good on him!

And in other news, doctors have said that there can be fatal side effects.

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Toasted Heretic:

What has this got to do with this topic, on the drug that Trump claims he's taking?

It is has everything to do with "liberals" (hate that misleading label, seeing how they fundamentally are authoritarians now), because they have chosen to politicise the issue.

Just because a promising drug is mentioned positively by Trump, the fake media have collectively decided that they know best and it must be bad. Trump did not chose to make Hydroxychloroquine a political issue, the lib media did.

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She was QUOTING the fake news.

Thats exactly what I expected from her, she is a role model for Press secretaries all around the world.

You do know that quoting means, no?

Not yet but someday I will learn, there is just so much our knowledgeable President teaches me on a daily basis that it is difficult to keep up.

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A study by the US Veterans Administration showed that 27.8% of covid-19 patients taking hydroxychloroquine along with routine care died.

Even the Secretary of Veterans Affairs had to admit the weakness of this study. Oh my...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexUJeWmzSE&t=317s

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Our stable genius President, brilliant military strategist, smarter than all the financial experts, and Chief WH Physician, assessing whether to take hydro or not...

OK; over 70 years old, clinically obese, has insomnia, eats 4 Big Macs a day - should I take a drug that has a history of causing heart problems?

Of course...what do these phonies in my own FDA know...

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

Trump is the walking definition of an imbecile....

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ulysses:

Short memory? This tangent was about your claim:

Fine folks like Hannity, Tucker were absolutely right when they said the Coronavirus was just another flu, totally hyped up by the left wing liberals.

I only brought up the press secretary because she had a nice little list of of your mainstream liberal media who doing exactly what you blame "Fine folks like Hannity, Tucker" for. Has nothing to do with her personally, really, but she was so ready when the fake media brought up exactly the fake talking point that you did.

So again, own goal.

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What have liberals got to do with the topic?

just a generic response for Trump supporters when they know he's clearly wrong but think hes right.

No Trump isnt responsible for prescription drugs he takes that's on his doctor who prescribes them.

Just like Micheal Jackson doctor was responsible for prescribing drugs that ultimately killed him

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Even the Secretary of Veterans Affairs had to admit the weakness of this study. Oh my...

and where is the reputable scientific study that supports hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for covid19,

yep thought so.

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What?

Can’t afford Avigan ?

Maybe PM Abe should send Trump a ton plus the two cute face masks!

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I only brought up the press secretary because she had a nice little list of of your mainstream liberal media who doing exactly what you blame "Fine folks like Hannity, Tucker" for. Has nothing to do with her personally, really, but she was so ready when the fake media brought up exactly the fake talking point that you did.

You mean the Press Secretary that said made the comments about Trump in 2015/6?

"To me, a racist statement is a racist statement. I don't like what Donald Trump said," she said in an exchange on CNN in late June 2015, in which she compared his remarks to comments about Jewish people made by the Rev. Al Sharpton in the 1990s.

McEnany added that Trump's comments were "derogatory" and as "equally hateful" as Sharpton's.

"Donald Trump has shown himself to be a showman, I don't think he is a serious candidate,"

McEnany said it was "unfortunate" and "inauthentic" to call him a Republican.

Short memory?

Evidently so, huh...

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...and people believe it? Not that he isn't stupid enough to, it's just nothing he says can be believed.

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States opening back up safely as well. The media focus is away from deaths now that people are realizing Cuomo is responsible for the nursing home deaths, not Trump.

nope the polls suggest otherwise, Trumps approval rating for handling of the pandemic is at its lowest , especially with minorities, blacks, hispanics, the only area where its above 50% is uneducated white males. Trump is responsible for his delayed response, he was play golf and holding rallies all through Feb, even beginning of March he was downplaying the virus, almost 3 months of inaction and 70000 dead, final toll will be well over 100000. America has 4% of the worlds population yet 30% of all infections, and No American doesnt rank in the highest in testing on a per capita base, many countries have tested a larger percentage of their populations. Countries that acted in Jan Feb are doing well in fighting this pandemic

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The media focus is away from deaths now that people are realizing Cuomo is responsible for the nursing home deaths, not Trump.

yet Cuomo has an approval rating over 80% for handling the pandemic, Trump is less than 45%

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I think what Trump has done by taking Hydrachlorophyllquoxine is just brilliant, he has achieved what doctors with the best education could not.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump starts teaching at an Ivy League Medical school after his retirement, that is if he wants to!

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LOL. Trump is always good for a laugh, if nothing else!

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It is has everything to do with "liberals" (hate that misleading label, seeing how they fundamentally are authoritarians now), because they have chosen to politicise the issue.

But I'm not a liberal, so I do find it confusing when some posters lazily decry others as liberal for disagreeing with a PotUS who habitually lies to his people, the rest of the world, and even himself.

Just because a promising drug is mentioned positively by Trump, the fake media have collectively decided that they know best and it must be bad. Trump did not chose to make Hydroxychloroquine a political issue, the lib media did.

Trump has ties to Sanofi, the drug's manufacturers. This sort of behavior warrants attention, much like his promoting of his golf resorts (as G7 hosts!) and other business interests.

Any media outlet worth its salt should be looking into it.

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bass4funk

 So you support the right of people to use whatever drug they want to. Heroin, Crack, Opioid drugs, whatever.

I don’t approve of any of that, but if they want to take these drugs, their choice.

Then why did you state in your earlier post that you approve? Which is it? Approve or disapprove?

I quote.

"How absurd! We need to take responsibility as adults, we should have the right to determine what we think is good for us or not good for us.

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WilliB

zichi:

   The Trump channe,l Fox News issued a warning to its viewers not to take hydroxychloroquine. Dangerous for someone in Trump's age band and heart conditions.

Thanks for the expert advice. I did not know you are an MD. Being one, I am sure you are aware that the drug is well-know, well-researched, and has long been used for conditions like Lupus and others. Don´t you think his doctor can find an appropriate dose?

You do not need to be a doctor in order to read up on the medical advice that for over 70's with a heart condition is dangerous. Unless it is already a life and death situation. Which it is not currently with Trump.

"The Food and Drug Administration warned health professionals last month that the drug should not be used to treat COVID-19 outside of hospital or research settings, due to sometimes fatal side effects."

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Excited for this rule to be enforced for Prime Minister Johnson and Senator Clinton. I'm also looking forward to a poster who repeatedly calls Adam Schiff "Adam Spliff" to be similarly told off, and for people who call President Obama "Barry" to be told they're not welcome here.

Good call.

Oh, wait, none of that will happen.

And we know the reason for that. Chip Star (has he been suspended?) was graciously revealing about how a certain other poster is allowed to mark his territory, without consequence, all over these threads.

Don't get me wrong. I love JT, it's an invaluable tool in concise reportage (even with the center right bias on occasion), it's great when actual debate takes place, and quite an eye opener into what isolation and hyper partisanship does to people.

But it is frequently ruined by the inchoherent, trolling actions of one particular poster.

Ooops, here comes my suspension :-)

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Well that liberal narrative is done. He said it works and even took it himself. Not much more you can say after that “boss move”.

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Well that liberal narrative is done. He said it works and even took it himself. Not much more you can say after that “boss move”.

How do we know he took it?

How does he know it works?

If he suggested trepanning, would that be hailed as well?

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Well that liberal narrative is done. He said it works and even took it himself. Not much more you can say after that “boss move”.

Sure there is, next week we'll be saying; "our condolences" and "sending our thoughts and prayers"...

Probably be saying that to lots of other Trump supporters who followed his example...

Wow, the Jim Jones parallels are amazing...

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The narrative is over, time to find a new one.

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The narrative is over, time to find a new one.

There's so much to choose from, with trump. All the lies, misdemeanours and dodgy business connections.

Just wondering why some choose to believe his, er, expertise over, you know, actual experts?

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With his brilliant discovery of hdrapaphyclorocoxyquinquine treatment I wonder where trump will teach? Harvard, John Hopkins, Columbia???

Pity there are no good schools in Florida though....

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OK; over 70 years old, clinically obese, has insomnia, eats 4 Big Macs a day

OK, he's over 70 and "clinically obese" like millions of otherwise healthy people, but he doesn't have insomnia, he just doesn't need as much sleep as you do. And do you have some proof he eats 4 Big Macs a day? Didn't think so.

Trump is the walking definition of an imbecile

Heh, watch the "imbecile" win re-election in a landslide, even with a crippled economy thanks to the lockdowns perpetuated by the Democrats.

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 He said it works and even took it himself.

Then again, he apparently thinks that comb-over works, too.

We may see a President Pence before the November election.

Invalid CSRF x2

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OK, he's over 70 and "clinically obese" like millions of otherwise healthy people,

I totally object to that, Trump is the fittest president ever.

but he doesn't have insomnia, he just doesn't need as much sleep as you do.*

Even though there is no proof of that I totally believe it, he is a Superman.

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Trump taking hydroxychloroquine does not guarantee he won't become infected by Covid-19, but just in case, his second course of action, would be his recommended use of disinfectant.

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The lockdowns are as a result of the best available scientific knowledge and advice. They are 'perpetuated' by state governments who have a responsibility to protect their constituents. The federal government has abrogated that responsibility, preferring to pit states against each other and lend support to the knuckle draggers who are too stupid to understand how members of society must look after each other in order to survive. Yes, economic hardship is terrible, but not as terrible as an out of control pandemic.

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