Trump says he didn't know about payment to Stormy Daniels

Right, I don't care how much money he has, I find it incredulous to think that anyone wouldn't know if their lawyer was giving away that much cash in the first place.

Yup that seems 100% likely.

My attorney is out there giving out hundreds of thousands in hush payments in my name for no reason all the time. I can't keep track of every little one.

Right, I don't care how much money he has, I find it incredulous to think that anyone wouldn't know if their lawyer was giving away that much cash in the first place.

I'm not saying anything about what Trump did or didn't do, but lawyers of very wealthy people usually have a discretionary fund they are allowed to use to take care of things. 130k to Trump at the time was probably pocket change so it is possible (not saying I believe it, just that it could happen) that it was done with out his knowledge.

“Trump says he didn't know about ————-“

This is why I think Trump will get off on anything Mueller looks at.

So he just threw Cohen under bus and ran him over. Now Cohen may be guilty of an illegal campaign contribution. Can't make this stuff up.

He probably didn't , and neither did she. Wag the dog!!

It's hard to understand what Cohen can say without incriminating himself. His "I just felt like paying her" might fly as an answer to a reporter but not to a professional investigator.

I'm not saying anything about what Trump did or didn't do, but lawyers of very wealthy people usually have a discretionary fund they are allowed to use to take care of things.

Right, and not say anything at all either? How naive do think people are?

Wealthy people don't get "wealthy" by letting other people spend their money "at their discretion", and not have to say anything about it either.

Unbelievable. Right up there with Pres. Clinton looking Americans in the eye through a TV camera and saying "I did not have sex with that woman"

Trump is full of it on this one

lawyers of very wealthy people usually have a discretionary fund they are allowed to use to take care of things.

Cohen said it was his own money.

Right, and not say anything at all either? How naive do think people are?

Wealthy people don't get "wealthy" by letting other people spend their money "at their discretion", and not have to say anything about it either.

Where did I say that they don't have a say in it? High priced attorneys normally have permission from their wealthy clients to use certain funds to take care of issues without consulting their clients first if the need arises. I'm sorry if you don't want to believe it, but it's true.

Dammit, still no edit button.

And a reminder, I'm not saying anything Trump said is true! I'm just saying it is something that does happen.

Tokyo-Engr: Unbelievable. Right up there with Pres. Clinton looking Americans in the eye through a TV camera and saying "I did not have sex with that woman"

When Tokyo-Engr starts playing the "wuddabout" game, you know it's bad for Trump and the GOP.

I'll take the porn star's word over the President's. Sad but true.

If it's really true that Trump didn't know anything, couldn't his attorney, Michael Cohen, be disbarred for signing and making payoffs in secret on Trump's behalf without Trump's knowledge?

Most people would have fired Cohen by now if he had signed documents and paid people off without their knowledge or consent, yet Trump doesn't seem bothered at all by this.

Trump must have known.

Who would have thought the most sleazy, repugnant, degrading job in the US right now is President?

I don't believe a word this man says.

Well trump doesn’t know much about anything but I am sure he knew about the stormy payment!

I believe it. Trump doesn't seem to know much about anything.

he paid $130,000 for sex one time? i wanna be a porn star!

President Donald Trump said Thursday he didn't know about the $130,000 payment his personal attorney made to Stormy Daniels. Asked aboard Air Force One whether he knew about the payment, Trump said flatly: "No."

Trump under oath: "I said i didn't know about the 130K and it's true. I asked Cohen to take care of Daniels, just didn't know if a payment had been made and if so, for how much. It's true. Am not a liar".

DT could very well try to hide behind the good ol' plausible deniability defense.

Yeah right, his lawyer paid Stormy Daniels with his own money without anyone asking him to do so. For Christ's sake, he's a lawyer!

As for Trump, he's a walking STD.

Where did I say that they don't have a say in it? High priced attorneys normally have permissionfrom their wealthy clients to use certain funds to take care of issues without consulting their clients first if the need arises. I'm sorry if you don't want to believe it, but it's true.

And I am sorry that you STILL misread what I wrote. Never said they (lawyers) didn't have the funds, but using them AND not telling their client that they did, especially that large of an amount, is ludicrous to consider!

Trump deserves everything that's coming to him (loss of job, loss of businesses and loss of family).

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the story is true. Still doesn't matter. Neither of them cover themselves in glory. Trump is a known womanizer, and this happened 10 years before he became President. At the time, he was just a rich douchebag looking for some action. Stormy was equally at fault, she shtupped a married man, hoping for a quid pro quo as a reality tv star. Sounds like the entertainment industry in a nutshell.

Now, a decade later, she sees a chance to get more money and is trying her best to cash in. The media is cooperating by giving the story waaaaaaay too much coverage.

The media is cooperating by giving the story waaaaaaay too much coverage.

It would be the case if Trump didn't paved the way for it. He attacked countless people on pretty much any subject (including physic and intimate). Trump set the bar at this level, not the media.

You rip what you sow.

Seems to me she did well out of the deal.

Yawn, we still talking about this woman? Boy, this must be a slow news day for the left. LOL

simple distraction from the fact that Mueller isnt looking into any crimes by Trump. The articles about that were conveniently not posted here. Its all Stormy all day! I have to admit her lawyer is pretty good at giving the media things to distract liberals with.

The media is cooperating by giving the story waaaaaaay too much coverage.

Trump could have ended the story pretty quickly with some transparency. But when his lawyer says he paid off a porn star for the Prez “just because” and Trump plays “babe in the woods” then the questions continue.

So they did it to themselves. Maybe next time they shouldn’t throw a gallon of gasoline on the fire then complain it’s still burning.

simple distraction from the fact that Mueller isnt looking into any crimes by Trump. The articles about that were conveniently not posted here.

That's because it's not significant. The fact that Mueller isn't looking into any crimes at the moment is not much of a story (I bolded the part that you conveniently left out).

The president lying yet again is. I mean how do you determine when he's telling the truth when he's caught in so many lies? Or is not being able to trust a president suddenly not important to you? Convenient.

simple distraction from the fact that Mueller isnt looking into any crimes by Trump. 

For real???

You actually believe the words coming out of Trump's mouth? Especially the words dealing with legal matters or facts.

In that case, Trump shouldn't have any problems testifying before a grand jury or speaking with Mueller.

I am sure you agree because Trump said so.

The articles about that were conveniently not posted here. Its all Stormy all day!

There is no big left wing conspiracy about it being in the news. It is newsworthy only because Trump spoke for the first time about it.

I have to admit her lawyer is pretty good with rubbing Trumps face in the mess he made.

What I am extremely surprised about is Trump's restraint. It is so uncharacteristic of him. Me thinks Melania has something to do with that.

Oh, and he did throw his attorney under the bus. Poor Cohen. I almost feel bad for him for having a sleaze as a client. I hope Trump at least pays him and throws a kibble his way every now and then.

Well at the moment would be what we care about. That includes the past and now. Anything about the future is speculation and can be dealt with if and when any evidence is found.

Trump didnt say so, Mueller did. So enjoy pushing Stormy Daniels for the 30th time. it has worked so well so far, might even lead to the Dems retaking the Senate in the midterms! go for it!

Why would he talk to Mueller now? he isnt under investigation for any crimes, so its a waste of his time. For anyone else who is under criminal investigation there would be witness to their crimes other than Trump. Those people can testify to Mueller about what happened.

In that case, Trump shouldn't have any problems testifying before a grand jury or speaking with Mueller.

That's true actually. No article here about Mueller's report on obstruction of justice.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/mueller-trump-obstruction-of-justice-report-could-be-damaging-2018-4

Trump could have ended the story pretty quickly with some transparency.

Come on! Now I know even you don't believe that one. ROFL!

But when his lawyer says he paid off a porn star for the Prez “just because” and Trump plays “babe in the woods” then the questions continue. 

So what's the problem?

So they did it to themselves. Maybe next time they shouldn’t throw a gallon of gasoline on the fire then complain it’s still burning.

Or the media could do what they used to do a long time ago and that is, talk about the news. Most people don't even care about this woman or who the President slept with. We have problems with infrastructure, troops abroad, Russia, North Korea, a do nothing stagnant and stubborn congress, a farce of an investigation, illegal aliens trying to get into this country and the left is obsessed with a porn start? Seriously? You just can't make this stuff up. Give me a break!

That's because it's not significant. The fact that Mueller isn't looking into any crimes at the momentis not much of a story (I bolded the part that you conveniently left out).

Classic Perjury trap.

Trump personal life 12 years ago= bad. JFK doing the same thing and worse, and while in office, was "legendary" per CNN.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/04/02/slamming-trumps-alleged-stormy-affair-cnn-declares-jfks-serial-adultery-legendry/

You actually believe the words coming out of Trump's mouth? Especially the words dealing with legal matters or facts.

I sure don't believe Mueller, that's for darn sure! Let's get that out of the way, please.

In that case, Trump shouldn't have any problems testifying before a grand jury or speaking with Mueller.

Grand jury, held in a State where Trump only won 2% of the electoral vote, a very blue State, now why would he take that kind of a chance?

There is no big left wing conspiracy about it being in the news.

Yes, it is 100% or are you telling me when Stormy was asked whether the President used protection is hard hitting news? You guys are so far out there.

It is newsworthy only because Trump spoke for the first time about it.

I think he's tired of dealing with these child like wannabe news reporters.

What I am extremely surprised about is Trump's restraint. It is so uncharacteristic of him. Me thinks Melania has something to do with that.

How would you or anyone know, maybe he's restraint because he feels, she's a porn star, why give her any type of credit or acknowledgment?

Oh, and he did throw his attorney under the bus. Poor Cohen. I almost feel bad for him for having a sleaze as a client. I hope Trump at least pays him and throws a kibble his way every now and then.

What? LOL

Yes, I agree with posters above. Why did Trump wait until now to deny he knew. Was it because he was waiting for a report saying there was no evidence he knew? Why didn't his lawyer who arranged the payment say at the start that Trump didn't know. Doesn't make sense.

I sure don't believe Mueller, that's for darn sure!

You must have very good reason not to believe Mueller. I haven’t come across anything which would lead me to think he’s a liar.

Its just a failure in the professionalism of reporters. You get the privilege to ask the President of the United States ONE question, to get an answer to something that concerns the lives of all Americans, that everyone would like to know the President's viewpoint about ...and you use that chance to ask the same dumb questions about Stormy Daniels for 2 months straight?

We have problems with infrastructure, troops abroad, Russia, North Korea, a do nothing stagnant and stubborn congress, a farce of an investigation, illegal aliens trying to get into this country and the left is obsessed with a porn start?

News organizations are able to deal with more than one issue at a time. Even Fox has time for this story when they're not reporting on that scary caravan of women and children moving toward the US border.

The frequency of these stories are the result of Trump being an unsavory accumulation of amoral self-aggrandizement, the likes of which the American presidency has never seen. He makes his own news. Just look at how he's going after Amazon by lying about the post office.

Just yesterday you said all presidents tell lies so how do you know when they do and when they don't?

Yes, and I also said the same about all politicians and the intelligence community. Meuller is one of them, so I don't know, but I definitely don't believe the porn star.

You must have very good reason not to believe Mueller.

Dishonesty is one of them. 22 Democratic lawyers on his team? Yes, trying to seek the truth, I'm not an idiot.

I haven’t come across anything which would lead me to think he’s a liar.

You're a liberal and you hate Trump so why should you, just like most of my conservative friends thought that Ken Starr was noble, honest and every liberal I know thought he was Satin. So I'm not surprised you would think that.

@Bass

I still haven’t come across anything which would lead me to believe Mueller is a liar.

Please post anything which throws his personal integrity and honesty into doubt. I’m open to it.

Do you want me to post things throwing Trump’s personal integrity and honesty into doubt? I can if you like.

So, Trump "didn't know" about the payment to silence her about talking about what he did not do. Hmmm...

Jimizo: "Please post anything which throws his personal integrity and honesty into doubt. I’m open to it. "

Are you kidding? He'll just post Hannity comments.

"I know NOTHING!" -- Donald J. Trump, April 5, 2018.

I still haven’t come across anything which would lead me to believe Mueller is a liar.

Please post anything which throws his personal integrity and honesty into doubt. I’m open to it. 

As I said before, of course you don't. There is no way you could start a diatribe to convince me that the man is fair and honest and don't give me he's a Republican talking points, Joe Scarborough claims to be a Republican, Lol. Mueller is part of the Washington swamp and if Mueller wanted to at least give the optics that this witch hunt is fair, he would have a bipartisan team of conservatives and liberal lawyers on his team and he hasn't done that. 

Do you want me to post things throwing Trump’s personal integrity and honesty into doubt? I can if you like.

Sure and I will counter that.

There is no way you could start a diatribe to convince me that the man is fair and honest and don't give me he's a Republican talking points,

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m open to evidence showing Mueller isn’t an honest player.

I just want you to post the reasons why Mueller isn’t an honest player.

he would have a bipartisan team of conservatives and liberal lawyers on his team and he hasn't done that. 

An odd comment from someone who believes every word coming from a Trump lickspittle like Nunes. We did have a both conservatives on the house investigative committee, and you refused to listen to accept criticisms of that investigation.

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I’m open to evidence showing Mueller isn’t an honest player.

I already pointed out the main key point.

An odd comment from someone who believes every word coming from a Trump lickspittle like Nunes.

Oh, so I'm supposed to believe Spliff and his Democrat merry men?

We did have a both conservatives on the house investigative committee, and you refused to listen to accept criticisms of that investigation.

The same goes for the Dems and they didn't listen.

he isnt under investigation for any crimes, so its a waste of his time.

Mueller has stated Trump is a "person of interest" in the ongoing investigation. This means he has not been charged with a crime. It dies not mean he is not under investigation for any crimes. When all is said and done, the package will be tossed to Congress, which must then consider impeachment. Stormy is the least of his worries.

It is not, however, the least of Cohen's worries. He will likely be disbarred over this.

When all is said and done, the package will be tossed to Congress, which must then consider impeachment. Stormy is the least of his worries.*

Then he really has nothing to worry about then.

It is not, however, the least of Cohen's worries. He will likely be disbarred over this.

Hmmmmm.....not so sure.

Mueller is part of the Washington swamp

So are John Bolton, Steve Mnuchin, and Scott Pruitt. What's your point?

At least Mueller is not using his position to enrich himself or his finance and oil industry buddies.

Mueller is part of the establishment because he has proven to be a consummate professional who serves the public in the manner befitting his position. The only thing you have against him is that he is investigating your team. I'd call that a pretty childish attitude.

I'm supposed to believe Spliff and his Democrat merry men?

There we have it. Resort to name-calling when you have no substantive point to make. Spliff. Tee hee.

In answer to your question, yes, you are supposed to believe Spliff.

So are John Bolton, Steve Mnuchin, and Scott Pruitt. What's your point?

They’re not trying to get the President or overturn an election.

At least Mueller is not using his position to enrich himself or his finance and oil industry buddies.

No, he wants to unseat a Democratically elected President. Think, the Democrats are not that bright they never learn and they seem to forget that this could comb back in a bad way back on them, so if they have some crumbs of sanity, they shouldn’t be so joyous with their actions. Revenge goes both ways.

Mueller is part of the establishment because he has proven to be a consummate professional who serves the public in the manner befitting his position.

So that’s the new euphemism for “tool” or “suck up?”

The only thing you have against him is that he is investigating your team. I'd call that a pretty childish attitude.

Best friends with Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Yeah, I have a problem with it. The same way you guys had a problem with Start in 1998 but I have the deepest respect for that man.

There we have it. Resort to name-calling when you have no substantive point to make. Spliff. Tee hee.

Name calling is the lefts expertise, when have you ever called name calling on any lib on JT? Crickets. Lol

In answer to your question, yes, you are supposed to believe Spliff.

ROFLMBO Let me catch my breath, next you’ll say, We should all believe Michael Moore when he says something.

Name calling is the lefts expertise, when have you ever called name calling on any lib on JT?

Liberals are not left as has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions.

It still doesn't mask the curious case of Trump and Stormy Daniels which will continue to be another hot topic, dogging the PotUS.

All interested parties, regardless of who they do or don't vote for, should be following this very closely as it points to the methods and lies that an elected leader will employ to make it all go away.

They’re not trying to get the President or overturn an election.

he wants to unseat a Democratically elected President

Nonsense. That's your conjecture, for which you have no evidence.

Name calling is the lefts expertise,

Who brought up left or right? I just pointed out to you (whatever your political persuasion is) that name calling detracts from your already flimsy point. So if you want to continue doing so, if you think it's proper, be my guest.

Liberals are not left as has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions. 

So that means, Conservatives are not right.

It still doesn't mask the curious case of Trump and Stormy Daniels which will continue to be another hot topic, dogging the PotUS.

I get it, the MSM need something to stay relevant, nothing else works, Russia, collusion, obstruction.....oh, let’s get the porn star out. Bravo! Lol

All interested parties, regardless of who they do or don't vote for, should be following this very closely as it points to the methods and lies that an elected leader will employ to make it all go away.

Then Americans should forgo voting altogether ever again.

Do you have anything other than prejudice that Mueller has lied and also do you also have proof Stormy and Trump didn't have sex, and didn't receive hush money? How about your Deepfiles, they got anything on these scandals?

Yaaaawn, and? As I said, I pray the Democrats focus on the porn star that’ll help the, in November. What do you stand for? What are your policies? Uhhhhhh.....stormy? Income redistribution? More entitlements and raising taxes? Good luck with that.

Do you believe Stormy is really trying to overthrow the president, sounds more like the TV Show Scandal.

She’s a porn star, I pay absolutely zero attention to what she says, I’d rather listen to the whines and howls of Warren and Waters put together.

Nonsense. That's your conjecture, for which you have no evidence

That’s your conjecture if you believe that he’s not.

Who brought up left or right? I just pointed out to you (whatever your political persuasion is) that name calling detracts from your already flimsy point. So if you want to continue doing so, if you think it's proper, be my guest.

The left has nothing but flimsy points. Lol

@Superlib - no "whaddabout" from me at all. I am old enough to have been old enough to realize how condescending Clinton was when he wagged his finger at us all. I was genuinely disgusted.

I am equally disgusted at Trump and what he has dragged the U.S. Presidency down to.

Bill Clinton was by far a better President than Trump will ever be. Again, Trump should have kept his mouth shut as what he said is far from believable.

The left has nothing but flimsy points. Lol

As I said in the comment you’re responding to, this has nothing to do with left or right.

Really! If I had 100 yen for every Stormy comment you have posted I could take my wife out for an expensive meal.

That would amount to a bento a Hotto Motto. Lol

As I said in the comment you’re responding to, this has nothing to do with left or right

It has everything to do with the left.

You cant keep your mouth shut anymore. The liberal media just keeps screaming out to non liberals everytime they see you until you respond in some kind of way.

This is how it goes:

Dont answer: "he refused to answer, he must be hiding something that would prove his guilt! obstruction of justice!"

Answer that you did it or know about it "impeach him for doing that!!" (even if others have done it too with no punishment)

Answer that you didnt do it or dont know about it: "he is such a liar! impeach! obstruction of justice!"

But a liberal replies didnt do it or dont know or refuses to answer, media say "See! not guilty just as we said. Stop spreading your right wing conspiracy theories!"

Dont answer: "he refused to answer, he must be hiding something that would prove his guilt! obstruction of justice!"

Answer that you did it or know about it "impeach him for doing that!!" (even if others have done it too with no punishment)

Answer that you didnt do it or dont know about it: "he is such a liar! impeach! obstruction of justice!"

But a liberal replies didnt do it or dont know or refuses to answer, media say "See! not guilty just as we said. Stop spreading your right wing conspiracy theories!"

I’m glad that you mentioned conspiracy theories.

Part of the reason people don’t trust Trump is this reason. All politicians lie, but Trump has sunk to new depths with crackpot, racially fueled conspiracy trash. Real barking mad, toxic stupidity and filth.

Anyone who believes anything gurgling around in his toilet of a mind isn’t being serious.

My money is on the porn star.

Why didn't his lawyer who arranged the payment say at the start that Trump didn't know. Doesn't make sense.

Because. . . if the attorney said that and it wasn't true, he could lose his license. He could also be in an ethics violation (client confidentiality) for speaking about the details of the advice. So, he shouldn't say anything.

I’m glad that you mentioned conspiracy theories. 

Part of the reason people don’t trust Trump is this reason. All politicians lie, but Trump has sunk to new depths with crackpot, racially fueled conspiracy trash. Real barking mad, toxic stupidity and filth. 

Really? Naw, I still don’t think I as bad as most politicians.

Anyone who believes anything gurgling around in his toilet of a mind isn’t being serious.

I beg to differ.

My money is on the porn star.

Mine is on Trump.

Part of the reason people don’t trust Trump is this reason. All politicians lie, but Trump has sunk to new depths with crackpot, racially fueled conspiracy trash. Real barking mad, toxic stupidity and filth.

All Trump does is create strawman issues. Why does he need strawmen issues?

I think the guy is nuttier than a fruitcake or that is the limit of his acumen.

Trump is the ultimate shadow boxer. Kinda scary when we need someone more connected to reality as a president.

bass4funk: "As I said before, of course you don't. There is no way you could start a diatribe to convince me that the man is fair and honest and don't give me he's a Republican talking points, Joe Scarborough claims to be a Republican, Lol."

Ah, the nervous "lol". You know Trump's wrong, and that's why you do it. In any case, you didn't answer Jimizo or give him any proof about how Meuller is lying.

"They’re not trying to get the President or overturn an election."

So, you are for "draining the swamp" of only people who you claim want Trump out, but the other people in the swamp, like those mentioned by plastic monkey, are fine. In other words, your cries about the swamp mean absolutely nothing.

My money is on the porn star.

Mine is on Trump.

Trump's money is on the porn star.

My money is on the porn star.

Mine is on Trump.

Fancy a flutter on Ted Cruz’s father being found guilty of involvement in the Kennedy assassination?

Anyway Stormy better hope that non disclosure agreement is actually found invalid. Her lawyer been “disclosing” entirely too much prior to knowing that.

Ah, the nervous "lol".

No, not nervous just think it’s funny.

You know Trump's wrong, and that's why you do it.

I don’t think he’s wrong and that’s not why am doing it.

In any case, you didn't answer Jimizo or give him any proof about how Meuller is lying. 

I did, scroll back up and read what I wrote, dear sir.

"They’re not trying to get the President or overturn an election."

Ok, you can think that, but it’s so obvious that’s what they are doing.

So, you are for "draining the swamp" of only people who you claim want Trump out, but the other people in the swamp, like those mentioned by plastic monkey, are fine. In other words, your cries about the swamp mean absolutely nothing.

Sadly, the left won’t approve of any of his appointees to clear the swamp, so he has to go in and get some of the best of the swamp to fill his cabinet, if they don’t want to be fair, then he’ll do it his way. Did I tell you, I love Bolton, wish that man was President.

I didn't have a sexual relationship with Stormy Daniels.

I didn't know that my lawyer paid her $130,000 in hush money to cover up the sex scandal.

I didn't know anything about the non-disclosure agreement that I didn't sign.

I am sueing Ms. Daniels for $20,000,000 for violating the NDA, which NDA I did not know about, and which I did not sign, which was to cover up the sex affair, that didn't happen.

Any more questions?

I think the guy is nuttier than a fruitcake or that is the limit of his acumen.

Trump is the ultimate shadow boxer. Kinda scary when we need someone more connected to reality as a president.

I like his hard hitting acumen.

Trump's money is on the porn star.

It was Cohen’s money.

Trump's money is on the porn star.

It was Cohen’s money.

How about a treble? I’ll give you odds on Cruz’s father being prosecuted, millions of illegal voters being uncovered and that sex tape he tweeted about turning up.

I’ll give you a 1000/1.

How about a treble? I’ll give you odds on Cruz’s father being prosecuted, millions of illegal voters being uncovered and that sex tape he tweeted about turning up.

Thats why liberals are in a panic, ICE coming down on illegals, arresting them or keeping them, longer sentences, maybe it will be the start of curtailing this epidemic.

@Bass

Curtailing what epidemic? What in the name of spanking orange backsides has that got to do with Stormy Daniels? I just presented a taste of the idiotic conspiracy trash and lies Trump has polluted the air with. I can go on with more if you want.

I just want to know why you trust him.

I’d also like to know what kind of lies Mueller has told which leads you to doubt his honesty. I’m not expecting Trump’s level of truly top-drawer roaring stupidity and National Enquirer conspiracy head banging but there must be something murky in Mueller’s closet.

So, you don’t want to take my bet?

Sadly, the left won’t approve of any of his appointees to clear the swamp, so he has to go in and get some of the best of the swamp to fill his cabinet

Ha ha. What does "the best of the swamp" mean? The guys who can out-swamp the creatures slithering next to them? The guys who shill for big oil and Wall Street? The international real estate guys who pal around with Russian oligarchs? The guys who are so rich they get away with anything?

I think we've got two "swamps". One is filled with career bureaucrats who work to implement the machinery of government, the long slog of social experience and future planning. Fallible and incomplete, but in a democratic society and government, under the watchful eye of the public, who they serve. This path has a public future if managed by competent elected officials and overseen by a public that is well informed by a critically-oriented media environment.

The other swamp comprises the gamers, the ones who know the system and are cynical and amoral enough to play it to their own advantage. These people are also fallible, but in a far more dangerous way, because they do not intersect with the public in any way other than self-profit. This path is designed to set aside public welfare--welfare being the conservation of a healthy society en toto--in the service of profit.

I know which swamp Trump likes. How about you?

This Avenatti fellow really is leading Trump and his Keystone Cop lawyers a delightfully merry dance! Adulterer, conman, traitor, draft dodging coward, kleptocrat and proving over and over again to be a complete liar by everyone from boy scouts to porn stars. What an absolute shambles of a President. An omni-shambles if ever there were one.

Crazy: "My attorney is out there giving out hundreds of thousands in hush payments in my name for no reason all the time. I can't keep track of every little one."

You only wish you had an attorney who is out there giving out hundreds of thousands in hush payments in your name for no reason, lol

"130k to Trump at the time was probably pocket change"

What's the difference between a wet racoon and Donald Trump's hair? A wet racoon doesn't have seven billion effing dollars in the bank. Hee hee!

It was Cohen’s money.

I have no doubt that the cash was actually transferred from Cohen's bank account. Had it not been, then the Daniels camp would have pointed this out. What is most unlikely is that Cohen was making an entirely gratis payment and providing his time pro bono.

Let's assume that Cohen earns a couple of million dollars a year, perhaps more. $130,000 is a still a big chunk of change. Maybe not to Trump, but it is to a lawyer. Not only did he give his money, but he also must have spent considerable time drawing up the contract. Why? On what authority did he make the agreement? Who was he representing? Sorry, it doesn't hold water. He is an employee at Trump's business, so when he acts, he is acting for his boss.

Curtailing what epidemic?

What in the name of spanking orange backsides has that got to do with Stormy Daniels?

Nothing, that’s the point, she’s totally irrelevant. Asking the woman whether the President used protection or not 12 years ago is the sad reality that liberals will dig to the depths of muck to find anything to get clicks and ratings. No wonder they’re poll numbers are sagging.

I just presented a taste of the idiotic conspiracy trash and lies Trump has polluted the air with. I can go on with more if you want.

You really didn’t provide anything that other Presidents said that wasn’t trash.

I just want to know why you trust him. 

Becuase I feel he has a lot more credibility than she does and so many famous porn stars got caught up in drugs and other bad and shady stuff. Come on, I’m not fool, why would this woman come out now? Both of them actually, you had 12 years silence and then in an election year both women suddenly out of the blue come out because they want to tell their story about Trump? Give me a break!

I’d also like to know what kind of lies Mueller has told which leads you to doubt his honesty.

Scroll back up and read what I wrote.

I’m not expecting Trump’s level of truly top-drawer roaring stupidity and National Enquirer conspiracy head banging but there must be something murky in Mueller’s closet. 

So, you don’t want to take my bet?

Sure I would, but in all seriousness you think he’s stupid, I don’t, the left three everything at him, even a porn star and still nothing, not only is the man brilliant, but cunning as well.

I just presented a taste of the idiotic conspiracy trash and lies Trump has polluted the air with. I can go on with more if you want.

You really didn’t provide anything that other Presidents said that wasn’t trash.

All politicians lie. All presidents have lied - no new taxes, I didn’t have sex with that woman, keep your doctor etc.

What I’m saying is Trump has moved into a whole new dimension of lies and trash. The lies tend to revolve around policy, broken promises, or in Clinton’s case, about his sexual conduct.

This is a whole new sewer. No other president as far as I know has spouted sub-tabloid nonsense like birtherism, put forward the idea that his opponent’s father was involved in the JFK assassination, tweeted about sex tapes which don’t exist, bawled about voter fraud on a mass scale with no evidence etc. If you disagree, post something from previous presidents at this level of stinking crap. It can’t be done.

Trump is not stupid, but this is idiotic trash and you know it is idiotic trash.

How do you see the word of a man who engages with this kind of thing as credible? This is Alex Jones/National Enquirer level.

Do the honest thing which many Trump supporters do. Admit he’s a lout, a liar and a conspiracy theorist but he delivers the kind of policies you want. It’s honest and a defensible point of view to some extent.

Sorry, should have written:

The lies from previous presidents tended to revolve around...

in all seriousness you think he’s stupid, I don’t, the left three everything at him, even a porn star and still nothing, not only is the man brilliant, but cunning as well.

Trump is an absolute cunning genius for getting his desperate flock to fall for all the crap he says and does.

Trump is an absolute cunning genius for getting his desperate flock to fall for all the crap he says and does.

Ahhh, the left and their deplorables comment. When Romney made that 47% remark the left felt insulted and rightfully so. At least we don’t feed from the collective liberal broth.

FLOTUS does not think so when her husband had unprotected sex with a known porn star while she was pregnant with their first child. No wonder she sent him to the sex basement.

She told you this?

put forward the idea that his opponent’s father was involved in the JFK assassination, tweeted about sex tapes which don’t exist, bawled about voter fraud on a mass scale with no evidence etc. If you disagree, post something from previous presidents at this level of stinking crap. It can’t be done. 

Why are Europeans so obsessed with this junk. ROFL!

I think the question is why is Trump so obsessed with this junk and why you avoid answering the question.

It’s not a ROFLing matter. The president of the US is a position which requires a rational, balanced mind.

This is of global importance.

just how do you think any women would react when he finds out while she was suffering child birth her sleazy pathetic husband was having unprotected sex with a porn star.

Of course not good, but why do you care? I don’t and you’re not even American, so it shouldn’t phase you in the slightest.

But you still post 20 comments, one fifth of the total?

So on a thread where you comment, now all of a sudden I shouldn’t engage? Dude, you’re slipping....

I think the question is why is Trump so obsessed with this junk and why you avoid answering the question. 

Jim, you should know me by now, I always answer you’re question provided it’s in the realm of normalcy, but I already did.

It’s not a ROFLing matter. The president of the US is a position which requires a rational, balanced mind. 

Then we are in good hands, the people think so, his poll numbers are slowly rising, so that’s good, I’m stoked!

This is of global importance

Really? Well, I have two words for the rest of the world.

Seems to me that if Trump didn't want press coverage about things like this he shouldn't be cheating on his wife with porn stars and then paying them off before an election to keep them silent.

He's not the victim here.

I'm not saying anything about what Trump did or didn't do, but lawyers of very wealthy people usually have a discretionary fund they are allowed to use to take care of things. 130k to Trump at the time was probably pocket change so it is possible (not saying I believe it, just that it could happen) that it was done with out his knowledge.

Lawyers are prohibited from spending client funds without the client's knowledge.

Then we are in good hands, the people think so, his poll numbers are slowly rising, so that’s good, I’m stoked!

You obviously aren't considering the poll numbers that show over half of the people don't think that we are in good hands.

Seems to me that if Trump didn't want press coverage about things like this he shouldn't be cheating on his wife with porn stars and then paying them off before an election to keep them silent.

He's not the victim here.

Ok, I’ll meet you halfway to be fair, no one should cheat on their spouse, that’s obvious and I don’t think he’s the victim, it’s still mean, dirty and spiteful, however, I think it’s just odd that the left in their desperation would try so hard to drive this story when they know it means absolutely nothing to the average American, especially struggling Americans. Since it is not producing the results that they want, then the only other thing one can conclude is that the MSM are doing this to embarrass him and ruin his marriage, if they can at least wound him and get Melania to leave him, that would be for the left a juicy win. That’s really what this is all about, nothing more.

You obviously aren't considering the poll numbers that show over half of the people don't think that we are in good hands.

I’m just happy about the half that does and if they keep rising like this with the economy growing despite the best attempts from the left trying to dislodge the President, then we’lol be just fine.

Does any human being believe anything a recidivist lair has to say !!!!!! ??????

It's not a left-driven story, it's simply news because it involves the current president.

Which only the left media cares about.

And the story now is not whether Trump had an affair or who he had it with - how desperately you wish it was that simple - but the circumstances under which she was paid off just before an election, and whether she can still be held to a gagging agreement. 

Which will lead to nowhere, I’ll bet on that. They can try, but good luck. Lol

It remains news - not a "left" issue -

No, it’s a left issue, there are other more important things goin on in the world is obsessed with a relationship or a fling that happened 12 years ago, seriously? Why now? Oh, it’s an election year, I can You you next year No one will remember this porn stars name.

because Trump's lawyer has (very likely with the nod from Trump) unwisely sued Daniels, which brings it into the public realm and keeps it there until the case is resolved, out of court settlement is reached, or Cohen drops the suit. However, it doesn't end there either because of the countersuit from Daniels. Again, not a left issue.

Gooooood luck proving that.

The NDA is likely to be entirely or largely unenforceable; Avenatti is probably not kidding when he continually characterizes it as "trash". That and all its ramifications are a story worth covering for any news organization.

For the left, it probably is, not to the average voter or even American.

So is the possibility of Trump's lawyer violating campaign laws - high-flying lawyers breaking the law is always newsworthy. And so is the utterly ludicrous narrative that Cohen, almost certainly with Trump's connivance, is pushing about how he paid off someone else's piece of ass with his own money and how that had nothing to do with a looming election.

Yes, it does. 110% it does. Why now? After 12 years, why now?

The story then is about all those ethical and legal issues, and about what happens between Trump and Cohen - currently the useful idiot about to cut loose - from here on out. At best embarrassing and humiliating for both of them, and quite likely far worse.

Oh, the left will try, I mean, they tried everything else and it all failed miserably, so why not.

I’m just happy about the half that does and if they keep rising like this with the economy growing despite the best attempts from the left trying to dislodge the President, then we’lol be just fine.

Trump's approval rating is not at 50%. The market is tanking because of Trump. Kuddos!

For the left, it probably is, not to the average voter or even American.

You know this how?

Yes, it does. 110% it does. Why now? After 12 years, why now?

Because the payoff happened just before Dumpster Donny was elected, not before. Whew! That one was difficult to sort out.

Trump's approval rating is not at 50%. The market is tanking because of Trump. Kuddos!

But the economy is getting stronger. I’m not Worried about the market, because it’s doing what it supposed to do, just ride it out that’s what most investors do, so I’m cool with it.

You know this how?

Dunno, just looking at California and how many cities have been revolting against the insanity of the Marxist liberals that have been trying to overtake the state.

Because the payoff happened just before Dumpster Donny was elected, not before. Whew! That one was difficult to sort out.

Yes, I got, but...so what now? Oh, ok, wait for the gasp come over AGAIN when this looney attempt will fall to pieces.

Yes, I got, but...so what now? Oh, ok, wait for the gasp come over AGAIN when this looney attempt will fall to pieces.

We'll see what happens in November.

the world is obsessed with a relationship or a fling that happened 12 years ago, seriously?

You alternate between saying no one cares, and that everyone is obsessed with it. And this is coming from a guy who is still obsessed with bill Clinton’s affair 20 years ago and still brings it up any chance he can.

The world isn’t going to forget this one.

Spanky Don is a LIAR.

130k to Trump at the time was probably pocket change so it is **possible (not saying I believe it, just that it could happen) that it was done with out his knowledge. **and if your lawyer is spending large amounts of money without your knowledge why hasnt he fired him yet, Trump is famous for firing people for even minor faults.

Everything about trump would be hilarious, if he weren't President. Trump is a madman, but he is also an amazingly cunning and dangerous madman. Now that the Electoral College made him President, against the will of the people, he is also an amazingly powerful madman.

Trump knew all about the 130k payments to pornographic movie Star Stormy Daniels. The money was paid to hide Trump’s Adulterous sexual relationship and activities with Ms Daniels.

I sure don't believe Mueller, that's for darn sure! Let's get that out of the way, please.

so a man whos had an impeccable career with FBI has no know blemishes against his name and is respected by both sides of government, over a man whos a proven serial liar, misogynist, corrupt business practices and womanizer.

OK we know where your morals glad we got that out of the way.,

Mr, President shame shame..

"Donald Trump has spent his whole career in the company of grifters, cons and crooks. Now that he's president, that strategy isn't working -- for him or for the country." - NYT

"If a client is using an attorney's services for the purpose of engaging in crime or fraud, there is no privilege." - Ken White, NYT