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Messer said, referring to one estimate that a wall could cost $10 billion.

$10 billion is chump change these days.

Trump just saved the US taxpayer a trillion dollars by pulling the plug on the F-35 boondoggle.

Just 1% of the savings would pay for the wall.

Smart move Trump, #DTS

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...ending a child tax credit given to illegal immigrant parents....

Ah - so children of those who harvest American crops, man its abattoirs, and do other work that citizens really don't want to do shall suffer for the price of a useless boondoggle.

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Yes, another broken promise. There are already quite a few and there will be many, many more.

Red State voters won't get what they want but they will get what they deserve.

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Ah - so children of those who harvest American crops, man its abattoirs, and do other work that citizens really don't want to do shall suffer for the price of a useless boondoggle.

The parents can always go back.

Yes, another broken promise.

How? The wall is going to be built and at this point, whether Mexico does it or we do is irrelevant, the main this that it gets done, that's not a broken promise, that's a promise kept.

There are already quite a few and there will be many, many more.

Look, Trump can't keep EVERY single promise, let's deal with reality, but many of them he can and it looks like it's slowly shaping up that way.

Red State voters won't get what they want but they will get what they deserve.

I think they're getting both.

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Trump folded.

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Trump the conman..His band of foolish supporters will come up with every excuse to make themselves look not so stupid.Well done Trumpers you got what you want now eat it up.

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Trump the conman..His band of foolish supporters will come up with every excuse to make themselves look not so stupid.Well done Trumpers you got what you want now eat it up.

After 8 years, I don't think Trump is trying to con anyone.

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It is called accounting.

Plus the USA has already paid Mexican "entrepreneurs" billions. The USA is that drug addicted neighbor with a drug dealer living next door who gets lots of our money. Who is to blame? Both.

The solution to the USA Mexican issue is

a) A guest worker program.

b) legalized growing and sale of recreational drugs in the USA.

Short of those things, we won't have any solution. A wall won't help. I'm surprised that Mr. Trump doesn't want to setup automatic machine guns to cover the unpopulated parts of the borders.

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Red State voters won't get what they want but they will get what they deserve.

Bottom line reason many in Trump's base voted for him was his NRA approved stance on guns and ammo. As long as Trump is seen to stop any attempt to even question their perceived right to own private arsenals and assault weapons they'll forgive him all else, including allowing Putin to influence policies and events.

His band of foolish supporters will come up with every excuse to make themselves look not so stupid

True believers gonna true believe their political messiah. A tyranny of the billionaire oligarchs backed by the gun toting minority who voted for Trump ahead.

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Bottom line reason many in Trump's base voted for him was his NRA approved stance on guns and ammo. As long as Trump is seen to stop any attempt to even question their perceived right to own private arsenals and assault weapons they'll forgive him all else, including allowing Putin to influence policies and events.

Having a hand in the election and completely overturning the results are two entirely different things. Also, had Clinton NOT actively meddle in Russians 2011 elections, this might not have happened.

True believers gonna true believe their political messiah. A tyranny of the billionaire oligarchs backed by the gun toting minority who voted for Trump ahead.

So this is the new narrative liberals are going to go with? Yeah, kinda original.

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@bass4funk sorry oh my the last 8 years was that bad mmmm.Well hold on to your hat buddy get its going to get a lot worse with this nut in charge..

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Oh Donald, the Great Wall of China didn't work, and that was back when people didn't have access to super modern equipment like.....shovels, wire cutters...

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@burnbush Trump just saved the US taxpayer a trillion dollars by pulling the plug on the F-35 boondoggle.

Could you please explain when this (i.e. pulled the plug) happened, and also how someone who hasn't taken office could have the power to do so. You're not creating fake news, now, are you?

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sorry oh my the last 8 years was that bad mmmm.Well hold on to your hat buddy get its going to get a lot worse with this nut in charge..

I seriously doubt it. Impossible! The last 8 years was beyond bad. I have more gray hair than Obama.

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I just read that Concacaf is about to decide how to bid for the 2026 soccer World Cup - US, Canada and Mexico could go alone, or more likely, two of these trio could joint-bid or the three could join forces. It will be interesting to see if US go alone (Trump would never accept a joint-bid with Mexico), and see a battle of a Canada-Mexico bid against US.

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bass4funkJAN. 07, 2017 - 09:07AM JST I have more gray hair than Obama.

Unrelenting, unreasonable hate will do that to a person.

As for the article, yet another case of Conman Trump trying to duck out of one of his promises. It would be funny if he wasn't actively destroying the world for our grandchildren.

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@superlib...Trump said they would pay, AND refused to confine his options. Mexico is paying for the wall already, as noted Ford canceling the building of a new plant there... Carrier, keeping jobs in Amerika. In the between time, try thinking out-side of that liberal paper bag your in.

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"No, Obama has a stressful job leading the most powerful country in the world being constantly harassed by small people on the Internet who can't articulate reasonable, evidence-based arguments for why they hate him but are definitely sure that America's first black president is definitely our worst one in history."

Very true. Remember the racist trash trying to prove he wasn't born in the US? Other hateful lunatics claimed he was the anti-Christ. I actually think he was too dignified in the face of this stupidity, hate and insanity and should have let rip at this human garbage.

He is a very classy man.

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I bet TRUMP will install machine guns and towers, soon people will realize, not a wall made to avoid Mexican to come to USA but to avoid American citizen to escape.

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Trump seems to think that Mexico will continue to take his abuse, eventually Mexico will just say fine well pay for your wall but youll pay for the fight against the drug cartels by yourself. The flow of drugs into the US does more damage to the US, than any wall , auto factory could hope to accomplish in "making America great again"

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We wouldn't have to build the wall now if Bll Clinton, GW Bush and Obama had got it built.

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We wouldn't have to build the wall now if Bll Clinton, GW Bush and Obama had got it built.

Well, history is telling us that countries in the need of a Hard Wall around their borders are usually not the one dealing well with their citizen human's rights.

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Some Republican lawmakers worry about the high cost and question whether it is the best way to solve the complex issue of illegal migration.

Some Republicans....and pretty much everyone left of the far right. The wall is just emotional bait. It's talked about by some politicians but it never gets done because of the cost and the fact that there's no evidence it would make any kind of reduction in illegal entries. In the end everyone decides the money would be better spent elsewhere. Trump and his supporters are the first group dumb enough to actually cut off their nose to spite their face.

Republican Representative Luke Messer told reporters on Friday he has proposed legislation to get Mexico to pay for the border wall by ending a child tax credit given to illegal immigrant parents, which he said costs $4.2 billion annually.

Do not specifically target illegals with children. Children have no say in the matter and they are the ones who will be hurt the most. Get your revenge somewhere else.

It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion (in remittances) continues to flow into their country year after year,” the memo said. “We have the leverage, so Mexico will back down,” it said.

And the world will watch in horror as the United States blocks remittances to another country and demands $5 to $10 billion payment. To pay for an ineffective wall. Which country will be next?

Ehh, I should stop criticizing the plan. The more you expose one of Trump's plans the more passionately his backers will support it. Something about being more interested in making us angry than offering solutions. I can only guess they think that over 4 years they will never be on the receiving end of one of Trump's emotional, counterproductive policies. Good luck with that. I'll fight against him with you when the day comes, and I won't even require a pound of flesh.

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It seems that manufactures/goods will be more expensive if things are made by Americans in USA. So they will have to buy very expensive things as result and besides they can't complain about those prices they put on. Because American labor is much more expensive than Mexican one.

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Bah Trump backed down from this particular insane promise too easily. There's only one reason he's immediately grabbing the public purse for this folly - he'll have his dirty short fingers in the pie making $$$$$$$$'s out of the wall.

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Trump will bring down the states if his medley of amateur politics is played out.

Because if this is truly the Main Act, the realities of global socio-economics will have him squirming by September.

But I think this is all bravado and blind-swiping his supporters, the majority who have no idea at all what they've gotten themselves into.

Y'ol good liuck now yo'l hear..

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Mexico, please tell him to drop dead.

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Anyone who believes this also believes in the tooth fairy.

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It is nice to see that Mexico wants to build this wall now. -Not worth it to have the Peso devalued and Mexican imports into the US targeted. Trump makes it look very easy where as Barrack Hussein Obama had a very difficult time. Probably expect construction to commence in a month with Mexican illegals in prison as a "free" labor force. End result: Mexico is building this wall with Mexican labor and Mexican money.

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Bass,

I seriously doubt it. Impossible! The last 8 years was beyond bad. I have more gray hair than Obama.

Precisely what, pray tell, was so bad for you over the past 8 years of Obama's administration that what quantitatively and qualitatively bad for you?

Any pain you may have suffered certainly couldn't have been economic. Twenty-theee straight months of job growth in the private sector with 3.7 million new jobs after the crash of 2006. He saved the auto industry, which, since tanking in 2009, has added some 100,000 jobs and has achieved market share for the first time in two decades. He recapitalized and rehabilitated major banks at nearly zero cost to taxpayers.

Your pain certainly couldn't be in the sciences. He cancelled the obsolete space shuttle program, as well as the wasteful and ultimately non-performing Constelation Program, at a significant savings to taxpayers. He expanded stem cell research, renewable energy development, and broadband coverage to reach those angry white rural Americans you like to go on about.

The issue couldn't be how he's treated the children of America. He's brought health coverage to millions of children, instituted minimum basic food nutrition requirements for school food programs, and introduced Race to the Top to put America back on top in terms of educational competitiveness.

And he hasn't experienced a single, solitary scandal to besmirch his reputation.

So what is exactly it that pained you so about Obama? Please be specific.

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The man is crazy. President Chump.

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Blocking wire transfers won't work: the money will be sent via other countries or other means.

Mexico will not pay for the wall, and Trump is an idiot if he thinks they will. Mexico should respond by reducing copyright terms to a year or abolishing them altogether, end cooperation on drug smugglers, refuse to take back undocumented immigrants from the US etc.

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"The man is crazy. President Chump."

Heh, somehow he had enough wits to overcome all obstacles to win the election, including the establishment on both sides of the aisle, Hillary's $1.2 billion, the president of the United States, Beyonce, Jay Z, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna,, Goerge Clooney, Matt Damon.. he he

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somehow he had enough wits to overcome all obstacles to win the election, including the establishment on both sides of the aisle, Hillary's $1.2 billion, the president of the United States, Beyonce, Jay Z, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna,, Goerge Clooney, Matt Damon..

... and even getting significantly less votes than his opponent!

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Red State voters won't get what they want but they will get what they deserve.

The voters in "red" states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan want a secure border. They deserve a secure border and a wall is part of that equation. I noticed that Gitmo is still open and the oceans haven't stopped rising - did Obama give Liberals what they deserved?

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Even Trump says the wall won't work and it's just scamming the US tax payers. Proof (quote source):

Trump has even admitted this. “If they ever get up [on the wall] they’re in trouble,” Trump said. “‘Cause there’s no way to get down… Maybe a rope.”

And some people even think Trump is going to put SEAL TEAM SIX members as snipers to pick off people climbing over the wall and have automatic machine gun turrets like what what was in the movies ALIENS. Trump voters literally believe in science fiction. Like something crazy like Ronald Reagan's Star Wars plan.

Trump is going to scam the US voters. But it's time to buy stock in concrete companies and home depot for all those ladder and rope sales. Ladders and ropes have worked for thousands of years to get over walls and will continue to do so!

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"and even getting significantly less votes than his opponent!"

And even winning more than 2700 out of 3143 counties! Hillary was fine with the Electoral College until she lost it, heh he

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Everyone wants a secure border. The debate is whether we want to devote such a massive amount of limited resources to something so ineffective. Some people are on board with that, others aren't.

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@wtf... I agree. Perhaps Eric Holder would be interested in the job. He certainly knows with what cartels are armed. In the end, it's both sides of consumer apathy that hold open the door for pushers of any good to be consumed. I don't want to hear Amerikans whine from inside their Chinese Nike, Mexican Levi's, Bangladesh shirt...

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Precisely what, pray tell, was so bad for you over the past 8 years of Obama's administration that what quantitatively and qualitatively bad for you?

From the failed stimulus to planned parenthood funding by tax payer money, from the outrageous and outstanding $10 Trillion debt, to his lies about Obamacare, the rapid deterioration of race relations, the high Black on Black crime rate, his inability and unwillingness to see any faults in himself or his policies and on and on, the point is, if you think he was an outstanding president, that's fine, I don't and millions don't and I'm glad we're in the homestretch of the guys presidency.

Any pain you may have suffered certainly couldn't have been economic. Twenty-theee straight months of job growth in the private sector with 3.7 million new jobs after the crash of 2006.

And it's less once you minus the retiring baby boomers, people that took themselves out of the work force, millennials that are under 30 and had to move back home because they couldn't find jobs because there were No jobs in the "private sector" so you can probably cut that number in half, government jobs don't count, if you want to measure a flourishing economy.

He saved the auto industry, which, since tanking in 2009, has added some 100,000 jobs and has achieved market share for the first time in two decades. He recapitalized and rehabilitated major banks at nearly zero cost to taxpayers.

That was the problem, he should have let the auto industry fail and use the existing bankruptcy laws and restructure accordingly.

Your pain certainly couldn't be in the sciences. He cancelled the obsolete space shuttle program, as well as the wasteful and ultimately non-performing Constelation Program, at a significant savings to taxpayers.

So you don't care that we have to pay the Russians a humiliating "$70 million a person" to hitch a ride in the joint missions on the space station? I'm sorry, but where are the savings??

He expanded stem cell research, renewable energy development, and broadband coverage to reach those angry white rural Americans you like to go on about.

Yes, and I didn't hear a single mention of saving jobs in the coal, gas industry nuclear, oil or creating ANY jobs in the private sector.

The issue couldn't be how he's treated the children of America. He's brought health coverage to millions of children, instituted minimum basic food nutrition requirements for school food programs, and introduced Race to the Top to put America back on top in terms of educational competitiveness.

And over 70% of Americans hate the current state of the system and how it functions and let's not even talk about the price increases that occurred November 1st last year and the thousands that had to cancel their coverage and the largest insurers bailing on this failed and bad policy.

And he hasn't experienced a single, solitary scandal to besmirch his reputation.

Come again? LMAO

So what is exactly it that pained you so about Obama? Please be specific.

Besides what I have just mentioned, my pain will subside in 15 days.

Mexico will not pay for the wall,

They won't outright, but there are so many ways around that.

and Trump is an idiot if he thinks they will.

Well, no, he's not. Quite ingenious, if you really think about it, there is a lot we can do. Hit them with tariffs, remittance, many Mexicans use wire transfers, you tax them on that, other goods products they import from us, there are so many ways to get around this. Lucky Luciano once said, the "US government" is bigger and scarier than the mafia. When they want their money, they're going to get it one way or another.

Mexico should respond by reducing copyright terms to a year or abolishing them altogether, end cooperation on drug smugglers, refuse to take back undocumented immigrants from the US etc.

Yeah, they could try and sit on a grenade with that risky idea.

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Well, no, he's not. Quite ingenious,

Trump will break all his promises. He said he won't have Hillary arrested and this means he will break his promise about having Mexicans pay for the wall.

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Yeah, like he said he'd release his tax returns later...It's already too late for that now...So thats when Mexico will pay for the wall. His announcements of his intentions have already weakened the Mexican economy-so when you make a country less able to pay what is the likliehood they are more likely to pay? At the moment net migration of Mexicans is OUT of the USA-but if Trump decides to make things more difficult for Mexico then he is likely to reverse that trend...but Trump logic has always been, just like Trump honesty and intelligence an oxymoronic proposition.

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Trump will break all his promises. He said he won't have Hillary arrested and this means he will break his promise about having Mexicans pay for the wall.

As long as it's being built, no one really cares and Trump shouldn't get involved with investigating Hillary, he should leave that up to his appointed. DOJ.

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As long as it's being built

It's not and won't.

You can't build a wall on a river. And even if he builds a wall Mexicans will use ladders and ropes to get over them. Also, don't forget in Texas there is a lot of private property that the govt. will have to sue for and that will increase the cost a lot for the wall (that Mexico will not pay). Trump will pull a real number on the US tax payer. Texans will lose private property and the cost of the wall will go up (for US tax payers and not Mexicans since Mexicans will not pay). Trump followers always believe 100% what Trump says without thinking for themselves.

No, Trump said he will arrest Hillary when he becomes president and he broke his promise and made his followers mad.

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It's not and won't.

Sure it will and need I remind you, you said, Trump wouldn't get elected, he did. You said, he wouldn't get rid of Obamacare at all, he is, most of it at least. Anything else you want to speculate on that is false?

You can't build a wall on a river.

You can put a lot of border agents and surveillance equipment around it though.

And even if he builds a wall Mexicans will use ladders and ropes to get over them.

And since Trump is not Obama, he can double the border patrol agents., you can't get everyone of course, but you can make it so difficult and extremely challenging to the point where it's not worth the effort.

Also, don't forget in Texas there is a lot of private property that the govt. will have to sue for and that will increase the cost a lot for the wall (that Mexico will not pay).

What are you talking about? The cost would hit Mexico and in a big way, we do so much trade with them, there's a lot you can do to get the money from them, one way or another.

Trump will pull a real number on the US tax payer. Texans will lose private property and the cost of the wall will go up (for US tax payers and not Mexicans since Mexicans will not pay). Trump followers always believe 100% what Trump says without thinking for themselves.

Another liberals narrative, but I did chuckle at it.

No, Trump said he will arrest Hillary when he becomes president and he broke his promise and made his followers mad.

Trump doesn't need to and shouldn't, as long as appoints a special prosecutor, I'm good with it and you should as well. It seems we both don't like criminals. Kudos!

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You said, he wouldn't get rid of Obamacare at all, he is, most of it at least.

Really? I haven't seen him give anything concrete as to what he is or isn't going to do with it. Where are you getting this information?

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What're we gonna do?

Build a wall!

Who's gonna pay for it?

You are!

lol

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You can put a lot of border agents and surveillance equipment around it though.

Who is going to pay for that?

Trump doesn't need to and shouldn't

No! He promised his followers he would arrest that "nasty woman" Hillary when he get elected and he broke his promise. if he broke his promise about arresting Hillary then he will break his promise about the wall. And even if he does build it he won't get the Mexicans to pay and it will stiff the tax payers.

you said, Trump wouldn't get elected, he did.

No, I didn't, you did. I said if he does he will increase government spending on healthcare (public option) and break his promises to his followers (wall and not arresting Hillary). I said he would be good for comedy material.

The solution to walls is ladders and ropes, always has and always will. Trump cannot stop the Mexicans from entering the US even though he and all his follower hate Mexico with a passion.

The cost would hit Mexico and in a big way

No, it means many Americans would lose their land and tax money.

there's a lot you can do to get the money from them, one way or another.

Vague. That means there will be no money and it means Americans lose their property to the wall and tax payers lose money to build it. It's a double loss for Americans.

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Who is going to pay for that?

We already went through that, besides, if we have to pay for it and build it, at least it will get done, I'll even volunteer my time, if I can.

No! He promised his followers he would arrest that "nasty woman" Hillary when he get elected and he broke his promise. if he broke his promise about arresting Hillary then he will break his promise about the wall. And even if he does build it he won't get the Mexicans to pay and it will stiff the tax payers.

If he appoints a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary, fine and if not, a broken promise is not the end of the world. Obama broke so many and most of his supporters were ok with it.

Trump cannot stop the Mexicans from entering the US even though he and all his follower hate Mexico with a passion.

Sure, but you can stop the majority, I just care about the majority, I'm good with that.

No, it means many Americans would lose their land and tax money.

That's not true and you know it. There are so many ways to get the money back. Probably the best would be to impose tariffs.

Vague. That means there will be no money and it means Americans lose their property to the wall and tax payers lose money to build it. It's a double loss for Americans.

Maybe in some alternate Bizarro universe perhaps. Anyway, you were wrong about Trump becoming president, it's going to happen and you should be happy, I am.

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We already went through that

No, because Trump is always changing what he says. First he says he was going to have Obama investigated for faking his passport. Then he said he was going to have Hillary arrested because he accuses her of being a "nasty woman" and doing lots of criminal things. He said he will completely destroy Obamacare (but then say later he will keep some parts of it). Then he said he will have Mexico pay for the wall, but now he says US tax payers will pay. You can't trust Trump. He will burn US tax payers and confiscate a lot of land from Texas landowners.

If he appoints a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary, fine

No, he broke his promise about that. he said if I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor. He broke his promise about having Hillary busted and so far he has broken many other promises such as forcing the Mexicans to pay for the wall. Mexico will not pay. Trump followers believe 100% what Trump says always. They never doubt him.

That's not true and you know it.

No, it is true. The American government would have to sue Texas landowners for their land so the wall can be built and have guard outposts. Trump will ruin the lives of many Americans in South Texas- and he will stiff the American taxpayer because Mexico will NOT pay. There are many many many American landowners in that situation so yes I do know it.

you were wrong about Trump becoming president,

No, that was you. I said if he becomes president i would mean good comedy content (and he can't take it and throws tantrums on Twitter)

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nishikat: You can't build a wall on a river. And even if he builds a wall Mexicans will use ladders and ropes to get over them. Also, don't forget in Texas there is a lot of private property that the govt. will have to sue for and that will increase the cost a lot for the wall (that Mexico will not pay).

They don't (usually) build in the river but next to it or back from it. See maps of existing wall in Texas.

Government obtains property all the time for purposes like this, otherwise we wouldn't have federal highways.

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They don't (usually) build in the river but next to it or back from it.

That means many Texans will lose their land because of Trump. Also, it just means Mexicans will just use ladders and ropes to get over the wall. it will be a waste of US taxpayer money and loss of land for Texans. But good business for the ladder and rope business. Trump followers think that all the illegals come from border crossings. They never believe that illegals come by airplanes and overstay their visas. They also believe that the only illegals are hispanics.

Government obtains property all the time for purposes like this

No, they have to sue. Trump will (1) ruin the lives of texas landowners and (2) stiff the American taxpayer because Mexico will NOT pay. Suing is very expensive and time consuming.

They tried before and failed. It's just that Trump followers never doubt Trump. They trust him 100%.

Obama broke so many

Like what?

I can't believe that Trump followers want a 50 foot concrete wall that goes on for 2,000 miles. I sure would move out of that ugly area if I lived around there. I guess Trump and his followers see Mexicans as some disease infested zombies that have to be kept out. They think that Mexico will never be a good country ever.

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No, they have to sue. Trump will (1) ruin the lives of texas landowners and (2) stiff the American taxpayer because Mexico will NOT pay. Suing is very expensive and time consuming.

The interstate highway system has 50,000 miles of highway. It cost $511B (in 2015 dollars), and the majority of that was probably not land purchase but construction and planning costs.

The USA-Mexico border is only 2000 miles long. The remaining open border is mostly (or all) out in the boonies. That reservation in AZ is complaining but that 75-mile section is needed more than most, it's a drug-running channel and for some families both heads of household are in prison for drug crimes and their children are raised by relatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System

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Even if the 50ft wall is built people will still use 50ft ladders and ropes to get over it. It won't stop anyone. And who wants a 50ft wall in their back yard. Property prices will plummet not only on that part of the land but for miles back since the view of that ugly wall will go on and on and on. It will destroy beautiful views, nature, and property values.

One important reason why it can't be done.

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Look, someone even tried to get their Jeep Cherokee over!

http://media2.fdncms.com/sacurrent/imager/u/original/2534674/maxresdefault.jpg

But, as mentioned, the fence for the populated area is already there, or mostly.

For the unpopulated areas, there's not many people out there even watching the cactus grow, let alone worrying about the govt putting fence over land no one cares about.

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A 50ft wall will make that area the least desirable to live near.

putting fence over land

No, Trump wants a 50 foot solid concrete wall. If it's a fence he will tear it down and rebuild with a solid wall that you can see from miles and miles away. So ugly.

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Why didn't Donald Trump just order the US army to mine the border, make the US-Mexico border to be a massive mine field like the 38th parallel. That should be more easier than building wall to stop illegal immigrants.

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Then he said he was going to have Hillary arrested because he accuses her of being a "nasty woman" and doing lots of criminal things.

And even if he doesn't, he's still going to be president and life will go on. Obama said, you could keep your doctor and prices would be so, so low and that was the biggest lie, we survived the 8 years and you guys will too. At this point, I could care less if Hillary gets arrested or not, she didn't win and that's an even bigger vindication.

Trump will ruin the lives of many Americans in South Texas- and he will stiff the American taxpayer because Mexico will NOT pay. There are many many many American landowners in that situation so yes I do know it.

Absolutely not true, but I do think it's funny you say that. The bottom line is, the wall will be built and there are ways, more than enough to have Mexico pay for it and now that it's coming to fruition, I am very happy that now something can be done about it.

you were wrong about Trump becoming president,

Meaning, you and every other liberal thought, there is no way he can win. Well.... LOL

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Absolutely not true,

Yes, he will. private property will have to be seized from American citizens in Texas to build Trump's 50ft. wall. There will be countless lawsuits going on which will add even more billions to the cost that Mexico will not pay for.

Trump breaks his promises. He broke his promise when he said he would have Hillary arrested. That means he will break (and is now breaking) promises about other things important to Trump followers such as the wall. He just now said that the American tax payer will pay for it after the land is seized from American landowners in Texas. Trump will ruin countless lives by forcing a wall to be build on people's property after it is seized.

Two ways Americans are being screwed over the wall. (1) They will have to pay for it since Mexico won't (2) The US will have to grab land from American citizens in Texas to build the wall and these Americans will not do it without a fight- which will add billions more to the wall bill that Mexico will not pay for.

All because Trump thinks Mexico is worse than North Korea. Why does he hate Mexico so much. He wishes Mexico did not exist. Crazy president. yes, he won. But he is crazy

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Yes, he will. private property will have to be seized from American citizens in Texas to build Trump's 50ft. wall. There will be countless lawsuits going on which will add even more billions to the cost that Mexico will not pay for.

In the fantasy, but so many Mexicans use Western Union and other wiring systems, they can impose a higher tax to send that money, tariffs, remittances, there are so many ways to get that money back, unless they want to hire a Roadrunner to carry the money off and back to their kin in Mexico. Good luck, there are Coyotes waiting.

Trump will ruin countless lives by forcing a wall to be build on people's property after it is seized.

Trump can break his promise about Hillary, the main reason, she's NOT going to be president, so it doesn't matter now, I'm good, most of his supporters are good. 12 more days!

As far as the wall is concerned, our lives are being ruined by us NOT having a wall, sorry, but I have more empathy for Americans at this point.

Two ways Americans are being screwed over the wall. (1) They will have to pay for it since Mexico won't

Which is ok, because at least, it will be built, so I can most definitely live with that broken promise.

(2) The US will have to grab land from American citizens in Texas to build the wall and these Americans will not do it without a fight- which will add billions more to the wall bill that Mexico will not pay for.

Keep dreaming. LMAO.

Kudos!

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In the fantasy

No, because the wall needs to be built is on private property that Americans own in Texas. The US government will have to grad their land.

Also, don't forget that ladders and ropes work very well to climb over walls. The wall will not stop illegals from going over the wall.

Trump broke his promise about having Hillary arrested.

As far as the wall is concerned, our lives are being ruined by us NOT having a wall, sorry, but I have more empathy for Americans at this point.

They tried to build the wall before but failed. It can't be built. Trump is just playing you and just like he broke his promise of not having Hillary arrested he will break his promise of building the wall. He might even do what Reagan did and grant millions greencare amnesty. Also, he agreed to keep parts of ObamaCare which is another promise he broke. Trump is playing his followers as fools.

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No, because the wall needs to be built is on private property that Americans own in Texas.

I know Texans, most would gladly pay for once if a president can keep his word and do something about the border, my family would gladly pay an obscene amount of taxes for that.

The US government will have to grad their land.

Nonsense LOL

Also, don't forget that ladders and ropes work very well to climb over walls. The wall will not stop illegals from going over the wall.

No, but the dogs, the increased border security, the high tech surveillance systems will.

They tried to build the wall before but failed. It can't be built.

That wasn't a wall, that was a fence, big difference. I'm from Southern California, they have not tried to build anything of a wall a serious wall like in Israel, never happened.

Trump is just playing you and just like he broke his promise of not having Hillary arrested he will break his promise of building the wall.

I think the left is just scared because it's coming to fruition, finally.

He might even do what Reagan did and grant millions greencare amnesty.

Well, he wouldn't be as naive as Reagan was. Reagan was promised if he gave 3 million amnesty, the Democrats would make a wall, seal the border and that never happened, so Trump learned from that mistake, he's always been a harsh critique about the illegal influx of aliens since the 80's and now he has a chance and whether he broke a promise of how and what he intends to impose on Mexico for paying for the wall is irrelevant. Just as long as he does it.

Also, he agreed to keep parts of ObamaCare which is another promise he broke.

That's ok as well, just as long as he repeals the rest.

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Nonsense LOL

No one wants a 50 foot wall built in the middle of their property.

No, but the dogs, the increased border security, the high tech surveillance systems will.

And who is going to pay for all that? Mexico won't. How many dogs do they need to guard every point of a 2000 mile wall? Who is going to pay to train and feed the dogs (on top of the 50 foot x 2000 mile wall)?

Trump has broken promises. He broke the promise of not having Hillary arrested and he will break the promise of not building the wall. Just watch.

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No one wants a 50 foot wall built in the middle of their property.

You don't have to, you can build surveillance systems around it, put cameras or border posts around the surrounding area. If the US can get Noriega, this is a nothing burger.

And who is going to pay for all that? Mexico won't.

They will. Just hit them with bigger tariffs, remittances and tax them when they send money back, that's how you get that money back, of course they won't willingly pay for it, we all know that, so you have to improvise. Either way, there is a lot you can do to get the money back.

How many dogs do they need to guard every point of a 2000 mile wall? Who is going to pay to train and feed the dogs (on top of the 50 foot x 2000 mile wall)?

Maybe Ceasar.

Trump has broken promises. He broke the promise of not having Hillary arrested and he will break the promise of not building the wall. Just watch.

Nish, If I believed in what you say, I would have panicked that Hillary would become the next president. Thanks, but I'll believe Trump. Schadenfreude. LOL

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You don't have to

yes, becasue Trump wants a 50 foot wall and a lot of the border goes through people's properties. Trump says he wants to build a 50 foot wall and if that 50 foot wall is not built that means he is breaking another promise (like not arresting Hillary or keeping many points of ObamaCare). If Trump does not build a wall 2000 miles x 50 feet with all the bells and whistles it means he is breaking another promise - like when he broke his promise to have Hillary arrested. The wall won't be built.

They will

No, they won't. You can't get 10s of billions of dollars from a country like Mexico even if it was approved. And if Mexican products get too expensive then Americans will just buy products from other countries instead.

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yes, becasue Trump wants a 50 foot wall and a lot of the border goes through people's properties.

Have you ever been to Israel and seen their wall and where it goes?

Trump says he wants to build a 50 foot wall and if that 50 foot wall is not built that means he is breaking another promise (like not arresting Hillary or keeping many points of ObamaCare).

Hillary is not going to be president and not a threat, she's going to play house with the grandkids, invigorating.

Which is fine as long as it gets built, politicians break promises all the time. I don't know a single politician that kept every word he said. Obama broke a lot of promises, so did Bush the elder and let's not forget Clinton. Nothing new.

If Trump does not build a wall 2000 miles x 50 feet with all the bells and whistles it means he is breaking another promise

Like you said "IF" and it doesn't have to be a straight Pink Floyd wall at EVERY single section, if we can build the fastest jets, biggest dams and have the most powerful military on the planet, building a wall or in areas securing it, is not even a smidgen of a problem.

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Have you ever been to Israel and seen their wall and where it goes?

This is Trump's giant wall (a wall of empty promises because he will not build it)

Hillary is not going to be president

A crime is a crime and it doesn't matter. If Trump doesn't have Hillary arrested then he is breaking a promise (like the one he will break about the wall)

as long as it gets built,

Then who is going to pay for it? mexico won't. And Texans don't want a giant ugly wall in their back yards with dogs running around barking all the time. Do you know how many dogs it takes to guard 2,000 miles and how much dog good it will take....then there are the vet bills. Who is going to pay for all this? Mexico won't.

Trump's 50ft x 2,000 mile solid concrete wall won't be built. It's a broken promise just like he won't completely destroy ObamaCare and just like his broken promise of having Hillary arrested.

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Have you ever been to Israel and seen their wall and where it goes?

And look at how it has entirely stopped terrorist attacks, right? Just like Trump's wall will entirely stop illegal immigrants, right?

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This is Trump's giant wall (a wall of empty promises because he will not build it)

And you sad, he won't be president either. Lol

A crime is a crime and it doesn't matter. If Trump doesn't have Hillary arrested then he is breaking a promise (like the one he will break about the wall)

Name me a president that kept every word he promised.

Then who is going to pay for it? mexico won't.

There are ways of taxing them, we do so much trade with them, not a problem. In fact, it's too easy.

And Texans don't want a giant ugly wall in their back yards with dogs running around barking all the time. Do you know how many dogs it takes to guard 2,000 miles and how much dog good it will take....then there are the vet bills. Who is going to pay for all this? Mexico won't.

I'm sorry, but you don't speak for Texans and especially people that live along the border. As long as it gets built and even if I have to pay for it, I'll gladly jump in and pick up a shovel.

And look at how it has entirely stopped terrorist attacks, right? Just like Trump's wall will entirely stop illegal immigrants, right?

No, but Israel can always neutralize any threat at anytime when it happens. Now if they didn't have the Wall.....

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Name me a president that kept every word he promised.

Then you are saying that Trump won't make the wall. Will he? Won't he? What?

The difference is Trump followers 100% believe what Trump says.

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Then you are saying that Trump won't make the wall. Will he? Won't he? What?

You said, he broke a promise by saying Mexico should pay for it and now wants Americans to build it and I'm saying, who cares as long as it's being built by us, we pay, we get reimbursed, that's all good, as long as it gets built..

The difference is Trump followers 100% believe what Trump says.

That's ok. He's doing a pretty good job so far. Let's see what happens exactly after the 20th and after the first 100 days. After that, you don't need to speculate anymore.

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That's ok. He's doing a pretty good job so far.

NO, he won't:

Make a muslim registry

Kill ObamaCare 100%

Have Hillary arrested

Deport all illegals

Above are his broken promises. And now it looks like he won't make the Mexicans pay for the wall. American tax payers will be on the hook and many Texans will have their land grabbed.

Let's see what happens? It will be broken promises because he already broke them. There is no speculation. He won't have Hillary arrested and that is the beginning of a long chain of broken empty promises.

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Sure, he will. Give the guy a chance, crying about it won't change the inevitable. He's not even sworn in yet. Nish, for all you know, he might become to be your favorite president. I know you want secure borders jusl like the rest of us and remember, he used to be a Democrat, so we have best of both worlds, smile. Life is good, after the Wall is built and we all help to cut down on illegal immigration and we slowly get the money back and get the country right on track, you'll be proud and Hillary she won't be president, so you don't have to worry, we never have to deal with her. 11 more days to go. Kudos.

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Sure, he will

Arrest Hillary? He said he won't.

cut down on illegal immigration

But they will just use ropes and ladders.

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Arrest Hillary? He said he won't.

No need for that. in 11 days, Trump will be at the podium and Hillary will be with the grandkids. Kudos.

But they will just use ropes and ladders.

And we'll use more surveillance and border patrols. A lot of people need jobs, great opportunities await!

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No need for that

But he said he would. And the Muslim ban.

And we'll use more surveillance and border patrols. A lot of people need jobs, great opportunities await!

And who will pay for that?

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Israel does this every single day and we should as well.

Israel does not have a ban on Muslims. Where did you ever get that idea?

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Israel does not have a ban on Muslims. Where did you ever get that idea?

Not a ban on Muslims, but they do scrutinize them a lot more, patrol their borders better and infiltrate them more than we do, which is something we need.

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