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Once again this crazy stuff he touts...like the celebrating muslims in NJ on 911...like Global Warming is a hoax...where does he get this stuff?

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“Before mass leaders seize the power to fit reality to their lies, their propaganda is marked by its extreme contempt for facts as such, for in their opinion fact depends entirely on the power of man who can fabricate it.” Hannah Arendt The Origins of Totalitarianism

I hope Trump's bone spurs have healed.

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"Alternative Facts"!

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DT never fails to deliver...

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OssanAmericaToday  07:06 am JST

Once again this crazy stuff he touts...like the celebrating muslims in NJ on 911...like Global Warming is a hoax...where does he get this stuff?

He's a lazy coward. He can't be bothered to do anything that supports others unless he can use it as a stage to promote himself. When he gets called out for anything he does wrong, his first impulse is to make something up to justify it. Because he knows there are deluded Kool-Aid drinkers out there who will buy it without a shred of critical thought.

We'll probably be hearing from them shortly.

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I give our Lying Coward-in-Chief credit for consistency - the man seems incapable of not lying.

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He's a lazy coward. He can't be bothered to do anything that supports others unless he can use it as a stage to promote himself.

Really? How so?

When he gets called out for anything he does wrong, his first impulse is to make something up to justify it.

How do you know he's wrong? Who said so? How would you verify it? Because the establishment dictates it so?

Because he knows there are deluded Kool-Aid drinkers out there who will buy it without a shred of critical thought.

Naw, as you can see from November, the people can think for themselves.

I think the Trump haters are so bored with nothing to really do but to criticize non-stop.

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He really is a lying, spiteful, petulant child.

He couldn't care less what is true or not. He had a tantrum and threw his filled potty at them.

I hope some Trump supporters here have the honestly to address what he said, rather than falling back on the pathetic anti-Trump hysteria excuse.

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How do you know he's wrong? Who said so? How would you verify it? Because the establishment dictates it so?

How do you know Trump made those phone calls? Were you there? How would you verify it? Because Trump said so and the lying MSM reported it?

The world is one big epistemological pretzel.

as you can see from November, the people can think for themselves.

Yes, I can see that. They can stand on their own hind legs.

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I wonder if he’s gone too far this time... upset the wrong demographic.

People are naturally vigilant when it comes to the war-dead, and aren’t going to tolerate any distortions which might be considered as somehow defiling their sacrifice....

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He really is a lying, spiteful, petulant child. 

You can also describe the entire left in the same manner.

He couldn't care less what is true or not. He had a tantrum and threw his filled potty at them. 

9 months in and you don't think the whiny and carrying on by the left is not a form of some serious temper tantrum outburst?

I hope some Trump supporters here have the honestly to address what he said, rather than falling back on the pathetic anti-Trump hysteria excuse.

Example?

How do you know Trump made those phone calls? Were you there? How would you verify it? Because Trump said so and the lying MSM reported it?

They did?

Yes, I can see that. They can stand on their own hind legs.

And they'll bite you if you get in their way. LOL!

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Do you think any Trump supporters will have the honesty to address what he actually said?

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Trump is a soulless coward. He is a divisive individual, obviously, who uses words like an infant. I have no idea what he actually meant to say or if he himself understood what he was saying while saying it. That's the gist of his everyday problem, which was again shown as he spewed on and on about his views of calling the families of soldiers killed in the line of duty. Because his persona is about belittling others, he brings his obsession...Obama and comparative others, into it. Just bringing in the 'competitors' is a sign of paranoia, petulance and uncertainty in his behavior and mindset. He's a pathological liar, unfit for office, and is such an unhinged person, it's still a wonder how such an intellectually, emotionally and psychologically retarded person became president. America screwed the pooch electing this idiot.

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Like clockwork every couple of days nut job Trump comes out with more utter crap....this is mighty big coming from the draft dodger..

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Trump said:

*"if you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls. Lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate, when I think I’m able to do it."*

Then, when asked whether he was implying that Obama never made phone calls, Trump said:

*"No, I don’t know if he did. I was told that he didn’t often. Lot of presidents don’t. Excuse me, Peter. I do a combination of both. It’s a very difficult thing to do. But I do a combination of both. President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes and maybe sometimes he didn’t. I don’t know. That’s what I was told. All I can do is ask my generals."*

In other words, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Except that he's the greatest president ever.

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Do you think any Trump supporters will have the honesty to address what he actually said?

People do, now it may not be to your liking. Most Europeans don't like anything he or his supporters say, so I guess it's not really relevant either way.

In other words, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Except that he's the greatest president ever.

Neither the media nor his harshest critics.

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Trump says predecessors didn't honor fallen soldiers

Coming from the man that mocked a fallen soldiers family.....

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Perhaps he should simply outsource the condolence calls to congress. He does so with everything else, after all.

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You can also describe the entire left in the same manner.

Well, of course you could. But that would be ill-informed nonsense. Your sexual predator in chief is acting out on the world stage, will a barrage of lies, mistruths and falsehoods.

Bush, Clinton and Obama have all made calls, visits, wrote letters - thousands of times between them. It's been verified by their teams and we've seen and read enough about military deaths to know that this territory comes with being PotUS.

Trump's big moment was mocking the parents of Humayun Khan. That's the level of his sympathy.

Frankly; his comments are a disgrace. But Trump supporters will lap this up and believe it. It's like something straight out of 1984. Heck; if Trump told supporters the moon was made of cheese and always had been; they would be whooping and a hollerin' their agreement.

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Yeah this just feels manufactured by Trump. Obviously he had no idea who called and who didn't. If/when he starts to get criticized for saying something so callous with no information he'll start to attack the media and others and play the victim card for his base. Then he'll start the process all over again.

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upset the wrong demographic.

Who knows how many in Trump’s demographic are chicken-hawks who like him evaded military service and expect others to fight wars they and their fellow .01% will profit from.

I think once again he might be playing the media, throwing a headline grenade to distract from Trumpcare (more appropriately Trump-+-the .01%-don't-care), his family's dealings in MENA and eastern Europe, his family profiting because of their white male house connections, the taxpayers bearing the costs of his golf trips and his family’s vacations, his nepotism in general, the ongoing insider trading scandals, his cabinet members bilking the taxpayers for millions so they and their families can maintain their .01% lifestyle. And then there’s always North Korea and Iran. Among others.

What’s Trump so ably hiding? Why won’t he release his real tax info, not the sanitized stuff Maddow got suckered on? No, Clintonobamademslibs have nothing to do with this. If they’re mentioned it’s because Trump’s true believers can NOT find reason to support him. ROFL

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Well, of course you could. But that would be ill-informed nonsense.

No, that makes perfect sense if you cut through the mustard.

Your sexual predator in chief is acting out on the world stage, will a barrage of lies, mistruths and falsehoods.

More allegations? Ok, so that's the best you guys have? More name calling? LOL

Bush, Clinton and Obama have all made calls, visits, wrote letters - thousands of times between them. It's been verified by their teams and we've seen and read enough about military deaths to know that this territory comes with being PotUS.

Ok, so you want to take the word of the establishment as fact base? You are joking, right?

Frankly; his comments are a disgrace. But Trump supporters will lap this up and believe it.

I think it's not like we outright believe it, but it's questionable, now to throw it back at you, the Washington loving establishment will never doubt them because they are the pinnacle of decency and respect? Give me a break!

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I'm just wondering what Trump supporters think about what he actually said here.

Is it refreshingly non-pc?

Anyone? Anything?

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And the attacks on the left and the media begin. All because Trump said something today he shouldn't have.

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Broken record bass here again to spew out more Obama this Obama that...So is it Obamas fault that Trump is an incompetent twat..come on there, someone with sooo much experience in what field was that again.... should to at least be able to come up with something better.....

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as you can see from November

White bitter Trump voters are still complaining even though Trump is now president. Proof they have no self worth and nothing can fix their problems- they voted for a cult leader who blames everything on Hillary.

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Trump said that Obama didn't make calls. A reporter asked him a follow up question. Trump then said probably did, and sometimes probably didn't. Then he said he really didn't know, he was just saying what other people told him.

Criticizing Trump on this one really isn't some radical political position, and criticizing him certainly isn't justification for attacking dozens of political rivals unrelated to this story.

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"if you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls. Lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate, when I think I’m able to do it."

Then, when asked whether he was implying that Obama never made phone calls, Trump said:

"No, I don’t know if he did. I was told that he didn’t often. Lot of presidents don’t. Excuse me, Peter. I do a combination of both. It’s a very difficult thing to do. But I do a combination of both. President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes and maybe sometimes he didn’t. I don’t know. That’s what I was told. All I can do is ask my generals."

This isn't the first time we've come across appalling gibberish like this. He spouts trash and lies and then has to flounder around trying to justify the crap he's just spouted.

The term 'brain fart' could have been invented for this man.

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I'm just glad a reporter got to ask a follow up question or else 30% of the adults in this country would believe Obama never called.

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Clearly President Trump isn’t up to the burdensome job of consoling bereaved families. He should create a company (how about Trump Condolences) that he can outsource the job to. It can be run by a trust managed by one of his grandchildren and be cost effective by sending all condolence messages by Twitter only./s

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I'm just glad a reporter got to ask a follow up question or else 30% of the adults in this country would believe Obama never called.

Or maybe 70% believed he called, but are not sure, just going on "he said, she said."

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@bass What lies and where is the proof?

Proof you want proof not there isn't enough out there for you now is there.

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Trump shouldn't have spoken like that because there is no way to prove whether others did or not. It only matters what he does or doesn't do for this specific issue.

I saw him take questions for probably 45mins and knew this would be the "gotcha"question soon as I heard it and his answer.

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No, it's just funny when the tables are turned, the left doesn't need proof, accusations and baseless and nameless sources are acceptable, when it involves a conservative, you need verifiable facts, backed up, stamped sealed approved and then maybe it might be seen as fact.

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Yeah that's why I said he messed up. I knew the left can claim with no proof that Obama always did. Even when he didn't they can claim it was done privately.

Its not a winnable issue or something you should even be to trying to win to make yourself look better than someone else about. So the media "got" him I'm sure they are so happy about it. But Score probably now Trump 75, Media 3?

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I just don't get the outrage of Trump fans on this one. I'm sure even they agree Trump was out of line.

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His response was incorrect. Within 5 minutes he backtracked and said he doesn't really know. So you "got" him congratulations.

doesnt mean he did anything wrong or didn't do what he was supposed to do for this issue. Just means he got "caught" talking about what others did or do. and it appears he was wrong and corrected himself.

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Trump was too busy playing golf to go to Dover AFB to pay his respects, but had enough time to come up with another lie about solders KIA not being honored by past presidents. I'm sure his letters of condolences to the fallen solders will be back-dated and sent out tonight overnight mail via FedEx to the familes.

"He's a deranged animal," Alyssa Mastromonaco

A little profane, but the first part of her tweet is what hit home - she, as well as the Press, flat-out called Trump on his BS. He's never been held accountable for anything in his life until now, which is why folks now realize he's a pathological liar.

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@bass No, it's just funny when the tables are turned, the left doesn't need proof, accusations and baseless and nameless sources are acceptable, when it involves a conservative, you need verifiable facts, backed up, stamped sealed approved and then maybe it might be seen as fact.....ROLF do you actually read what you post...now that is hypocrisy at its best.

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A little profane, but the first part of her tweet is what hit home - she, as well as the Press, flat-out called Trump on his BS. He's never been held accountable for anything in his life until now, which is why folks now realize he's a pathological liar.

I admire her restraint.

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Can’t say I blame him for doing it. Lol

Does it help him accomplish his agenda? No tax cuts. No ACA repeal and replace. Healthy econony, but low, low approval rating.

Hook, line, and sinker.

Let's stop pretending Trump is acting strategically ;)

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This from the man who calls a certain someone "Lyin' Hillary" -- who knew he was praising her?! OK you 62 million Americans (and Russians??) who voted for this heinous person -- what sayeth you all now?!

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Well, Trump fans have entered their trolling phase now. All because Trump said something everyone agrees he shouldn't have said. Now we all have to pay the price.

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doesnt mean he did anything wrong

Followed by, in the same post:

it appears he was wrong

I have no idea what's going on here.

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You can BE wrong without DOING anything wrong. Come on.....

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more name calling from the libs. Got nothing else.

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Trump's self-congratulations at taking 12 days to send condolences was bone-headed, and it was particularly unfortunate as it drowned out the rest of his impromptu remarks word salad. My favorite, regarding the string of GOP failures in congress:

We're not getting the job done. And I'm not going to blame myself, I'll be honest. They're not getting the job done.

The buck stops - where?

You'd think whenever Trump requests a lectern for the Rose Garden, one of his staff would sound the alarm to lock Trump up for a bit. Off the cuff might have worked during his campaign; it's self-defeating for governance.

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There were 4 gotcha questions and Trump stepped in 1 trap. He even kept saying he sent letters to the soldiers when he obviously meant their families, not the soldiers. These things happen sometimes when people are hostile and trying to score points on you.

Like when someone tells me they can't comprehend how you can say something wrong (be incorrect) while at the same time not doing anything that is actually "wrong". But whatever.

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bass4funk: "Ok, so that's the best you guys have? More name calling? LOL"

The uncomfortable "LOL" again, meaning you know full well you can't defend Trump on this. You do realize that he has just said your old buddy GWB didn't do it, right? He even admitted Obama might have (Or maybe he didn't, who knows?), before his usual admission that he has no idea what he's talking about after making an inflammatory remark.

It is a proven lie, but you defend him yet again. Next you'll be saying he meant something else, and you didn't defend any lies because there were none.

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more name calling from the libs. Got nothing else.

Is it name calling or just "saying it like it is?" Personally I find it perplexing how the same people whooping and cheering how low Trump lowered the level of discourse, then get upset when "liberals" return the favor.

Perhaps the level of discourse can and should be improved, but hard to see that happening with Trump and his nasty rhetoric still in play.

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The uncomfortable "LOL" again, meaning you know full well you can't defend Trump on this.

There’s nothing to defend because I don’t know the other side, nor did we see proof that the previous presidents did or did not visit many of the fallen soldiers families.

You do realize that he has just said your old buddy GWB didn't do it, right?

Yeah, and? Remember, I’m a conservative. I’m not part of the collective.

He even admitted Obama might have (Or maybe he didn't, who knows?), before his usual admission that he has no idea what he's talking about after making an inflammatory remark. 

Maybe he he does or maybe he doesn’t, you don’t know if he is or not and neither do I.

It is a proven lie,

Proven by whom?

but you defend him yet again. Next you'll be saying he meant something else, and you didn't defend any lies because there were none

Not defending him, I just don’t choose to jump out of the fryer and into the pan. Washington can say what it wants, I don’t have to believe everything they say and guess what, I always take the establishment with a grain of salt as I have been for the last 30 years.

Wow, the Trump cheerleaders are actually muttering the same jibberish as their dear leader, Deferment Don. The few that remain....

164 million is a few? That be a lot of few.

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bass4funkToday  07:53 am JST

He's a lazy coward. He can't be bothered to do anything that supports others unless he can use it as a stage to promote himself.

Really? How so?

It's literally the topic of the story that creates the comment section you are posting in. Read!

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Wow, the Trump cheerleaders are actually muttering the same jibberish as their dear leader, Deferment Don. The few that remain....

164 million is a few? That be a lot of few.

Where are you getting 164 million from? I don't think even Trump had claimed that in his lies, oops, sorry, exaggerations, hyperbole and alternative facts.

Is that how many turned up at his inauguration?

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I don’t know the other side, nor did we see proof that the previous presidents did or did not visit many of the fallen soldiers families.

You've got to be kidding. This is absurd, calling into question whether past presidents called, wrote to, or visited families of military casualties. If you want proof, why not do some research and get back to us.

Same for The Donald. The man needs to think before he opens his pie hole.

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Unbelievable, totally totally beyond belief!!!!

The President of a country makes a false statement , get caught, tries to blame it on the Generals and his supporters still try to defend him.

They should have a sign at the gates of the WH 'Let the adulation in, kick the buck out'.

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bass4funk: "There’s nothing to defend because I don’t know the other side"

Even MORE reason why you, and that means YOU, need to apologise for supporting gross accusations as truths when you admit you don't know the other side. You can't defend a guy who says previous leaders haven't what he has and say he's not lying when you don't know if in fact he is; and yes, it's in the story that he is lying. Proof of both Obama and GWB having visited is right there in the text. And yet, with that right in front of you, you will instead say that no one can call Trump a liar, despite his proven lies time and again (with fact checker and politifact giving him awards for being the biggest liar in presidential history, exponentially), because you won't believe the proof that he's lying.

Time for more "LOL"s, I guess.

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How do you know he's wrong? Who said so? How would you verify it? How do you know hes right? , because he said so!? How does Trump verify his statements with concrete proof instead of alternate facts.

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Interesting close-up shot of a creature fleeing its nest on top of the presidential cranium. The insect equivalent of rats and sinking ships?

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Amen SmithinJapan!!! Utter nonsense by Trump supporters. They have sacrificed country for party. Civility for turmoil. Ethics, morals and everything that we hold dear, they have sacrificed to support this guy. A dirtbag who has done things that they would never allow a democrat to do. The only thing they can do in discussion is pivot when confronted with truth and reality.

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164 million is a few? what are you referring to!? Trumps supporters!? LOL. once again Ill state the factual statistics. 62.9 million voted Trump out of a total 128.7million, thats just 48.8% of the total , only 26% of eligible voters and about 21% of the entire US population, his opponent had greater popular support. Funny how that "old horse" keeps coming back to kick you in the butt with the actual facts.

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It's literally the topic of the story that creates the comment section you are posting in. Read.

He’s a lazy coward was in the story????

Where are you getting 164 million from? I don't think even Trump had claimed that in his lies, oops, sorry, exaggerations, hyperbole and alternative facts. 

Is that how many turned up at his inauguration?

Democrats can’t count, even if Trump has (as Dems like to say) 30% of voters it comes out to about 164 million few people. Lol

why not do some research and get back to us.

Same for The Donald. The man needs to think before he opens his pie hole.

I felt the same about the last president, but I got over it. So the president needs to do research as well as his supporters, but when the left and the media come up with constant lies and false narrative, these are fact base? Based on what? “Emotion?” Huh?

Even MORE reason why you, and that means YOU, need to apologise for supporting gross accusations as truths when you admit you don't know the other side.

When you guys go first, I will too, promise! Cross my heart!

You can't defend a guy who says previous leaders haven't what he has and say he's not lying when you don't know if in fact he is; and yes, it's in the story that he is lying.

Again, show me proof and the people that can back up and provide the truth and O will apologize, if not, you are making pure accusations, nothing more.

Proof of both Obama and GWB having visited is right there in the text. And yet, with that right in front of you, you will instead say that no one can call Trump a liar, despite his proven lies time and again (with fact checker and politifact giving him awards for being the biggest liar in presidential history, exponentially), because you won't believe the proof that he's lying.

But how do we know it’s the truth and how can we confirm that?

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So the president needs to do research as well as his supporters

That pretty much sums it up for this story.

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164 million is a few? what are you referring to!? Trumps supporters!? LOL. once again Ill state the factual statistics. 62.9 million voted Trump out of a total 128.7million, thats just 48.8% of the total , only 26% of eligible voters and about 21% of the entire US population, his opponent had greater popular support.

“If” That is true, the Dems would have never lost majorities and so badly since the Reconstruction Period. I dunno, you guys....

Funny how that "old horse" keeps coming back to kick you in the butt with the actual facts.

Huh? Yeah, when you guys regain the 1000 Dems that were lost in the legislative branch, I’ll belive you guys kicked my tush.

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“If” That is true, the Dems would have never lost majorities and so badly since the Reconstruction Period

That is true. Where did the 164 million come from?

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His response was incorrect. Within 5 minutes he backtracked and said he doesn't really know. So you "got" him congratulations.

Until the man is impeached and imprisoned for crimes against the country and sexual assaults, you can hold back on the congratulations.

He'll be gone 12 months from now. One way or another.

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Democrats can’t count, even if Trump has (as Dems like to say) 30% of voters it comes out to about 164 million few people. Lol

I can actually smell that response.

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I read that North Korea's nuke test mountain may collapse and therefore they may test a nuke in the atmosphere, which is not good. What they need is an extremely large, thick, closed empty space that people don't want, and even better if it is a vacuum. Between Trump's ears is a perfect fit and he can take credit for his contribution to detente and be certain that no other president has done it.

America, be embarrassed.

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It's a common human reflex reaction when one is pushed into a corner - ya make up a quick lie on the spot to get out of it

Problem for Trump is he's the President, so he can't just make up these lies like any common human

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Problem for Trump is he's the President, so he can't just make up these lies like any common human

I think lies come naturally to the man. His whole career has been built around conning people out of their money, coupled with other deceits, greed and the pursuit of power.

He's so out of his depth now it's painful to watch.

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every businessman

Businessman ain't synonymous with conman. Donny is a conman. Ripping off contractors on main street and setting up a scam university makes you a conman, not a businessman.

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Two words: Beau Bergdorf.

Released by Obama. When did Obama honor at least 6 fallen American soldiers who died trying to rescue this confessed deserter, traitor, honored by Obama himself in nothing less than a Rose Garden ceremony along with the release of 5 enemy combatant commanders.

Oh, yes, Obama had many photo ops, such as the "ceremony" for the fallen of Benghazi. Who could not have marveled in admiration for "that".

I realize that most posters here are not even American, but leftists should really learn to simmer down, not be discombobulated by turn of events not in lockstep with ideology.

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I think lies come naturally to the man. His whole career has been built around conning people out of their money, coupled with other deceits, greed and the pursuit of power.

Makes you wonder how much longer Americans will put up with this man. Makes you wonder what this nation, formerly priding itself on christian and family values (now long gone), expects from their supreme twittering slippery leader.

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Two words: Beau Bergdorf.

Two words: Red Herring

Why are ya putting this on Obama?

Trump is the one who made up this lie

Why try to involve things that doesn't matter to the truthfulness of the lie

(For ex: if I lied about not calling my mother and say that other people like Miyam_Musashi don't call their mothers too, would ya appreciate it that I got ya involved in this when I was the one who made up the lie? No, of course not - the first thing you'd say is "don't get me involved in your lie; that's all you.")

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Businessman ain't synonymous with conman. Donny is a conman.

Yes, so are Gates, Gun, Bezos etc. They are all businessmen and many would say conman.

Ripping off contractors on main street and setting up a scam university makes you a conman, not a businessman.

Most Universities are scams. Don't see much of a difference.

Released by Obama. When did Obama honor at least 6 fallen American soldiers who died trying to rescue this confessed deserter, traitor, honored by Obama himself in nothing less than a Rose Garden ceremony along with the release of 5 enemy combatant commanders.

Oh, yes, Obama had many photo ops, such as the "ceremony" for the fallen of Benghazi. Who could not have marveled in admiration for "that". 

Bingo!

I realize that most posters here are not even American, but leftists should really learn to simmer down, not be discombobulated by turn of events not in lockstep with ideology.

But if Americans comment on European politics or specifically conservatives, stay out of it! You don't know what you're talking about. They, as most leftists internationally as well as domestically think that they have the moral high ground and have the right to preach how the country should be, how people should live or worship and how our daily lives should be conducted, how much money we are allowed to make or keep. Not anymore, but they do have CA and NY to go to. They like those kind of politics, a safe haven for the socialists.

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PS

It's Bowe Bergdahl, btw.

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But if Americans comment on European politics or specifically conservatives, stay out of it! You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm perfectly happy with informed Americans having their say. Even the ill informed ones.

You just have to sort the wheat from the chaff.

And by goddess, there's an abundance of chaff.

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ask ANY soldier what they think of him.

And MANY soldiers support him. What's your point?

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And many don't. I see that Obama didnt call General Kelly when he lost his son. But the media assures me he must have reached out "in some other way". It must be great to always get the benefit of the doubt like Obama does.

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Because somehow all of that is relevant to Trump's comments yesterday.

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Why the outrage over statements that are generally true? I don’t think anyone can make the claim that Obama spoke in person or on the phone with all of the families of the thousands of military personal who died in service during his administration. Trumps problem is that when all is said and done he most likely will not have done so either.

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Democrats can’t count, even if Trump has (as Dems like to say) 30% of voters it comes out to about 164 million few people. Lol if 30% is 164million, then 100% is 546million !!?? I mean where did you even pluck that figure from? one of Trumps tweets!? and they say Dems cant count! There is a reason why liberals tend to have a higher level of education.

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It must be great to always get the benefit of the doubt like Obama does. well you know when yo present yourself with humility and modesty and dont come across as a egotistical misogynistic racist bigot, respect and "benefit of the doubt" just comes naturally from others

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It must be great to always get the benefit of the doubt like Obama does. well you know when yo present yourself with humility and modesty and dont come across as a egotistical misogynistic racist bigot, respect and "benefit of the doubt" just comes naturally from others

It's called leading from behind. Never built anything in his life.

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But if Americans comment on European politics or specifically conservatives, stay out of it! You don't know what you're talking about. They, as most leftists internationally as well as domestically think that they have the moral high ground and have the right to preach how the country should be, how people should live or worship and how our daily lives should be conducted, how much money we are allowed to make or keep. Not anymore, but they do have CA and NY to go to. They like those kind of politics, a safe haven for the socialists.

You're right. At the end of the day, they all aspire for some sort of European style socialism. Rrrrrabidly against those who disagreed.

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Trump shat upon the 4 dead troops from the Niger Ambush. He’s a despicable draft dodger with at least 5 deferments.

He lost the popular vote in a huge way; He eked out a Electoral College win after the GOP Leadership cheated with Crosscheck spoiling 5-8 million ballots. Which is why the exit polls didn’t gel this last election.
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To add: ”… Obama administration officials were shaken by Trump’s revisiting of the attack line. It was noted that Kelly and his wife attended a Gold Star families breakfast at the White House in 2011 and sat at the First Lady’s table. But that point seemed secondary to the shock many felt that the administration was using the death as a political cudgel. …“

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My god. To try to hide the fact that he doesn't care about those troops and didn't talk or send anything to their families, he brings OBAMA and other previous presidents by making up a lie that they didn't do much to express condolences to them? He said he's better than them because he writes AND calls to victims' families, which is obviously another lie.

Who the heck starts making petty comparisons like that when answering questions about tragedies? Oh wait, it's the same guy that talks about Puerto Rico's debt, and slandering San Juan's mayor, during when they got hit with a freaking hurricane!

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presto345Oct. 17  10:22 pm JST

Makes you wonder how much longer Americans will put up with this man. 

Comments on this article prove that some Americans will excuse anything he does. Trump could claim that he'd called the dead soldiers themselves, it wouldn't make any difference.

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This unchristian un-American scumbag had the nerve to lambast an officer who sacrificed himself in order to save his fellow soldiers from an Iraqi landmine, and Trump condemned and put down this Gold Star officer and his bravery because he was ethnically Palestinian and a Muslim. Yes folks, a Muslim American. He belittled the widow publically and made her cry. He also says that PTSD veterans are "weak". He is a bigot, a racist and UNWORTHY to be a Commander-In-Chief. What he says about Obama and the other Presidents before is a LIE. Donald Trump is a worthless piece of garbage and he needs to be put in prison because he is GUILTY of many crimes.

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Please tone down your rhetoric.

bass4funk: You still haven't answered my question. As a Trump supporter, does he just not know what he's taking about, or is he a flat out liar? From Reagan visiting the troops and 'welcoming' back the coffins of the dead, to GWB holding weeping relatives of the fallen, to Obama doing the same, the proof is everywhere -- not our fault you choose not to see it after claiming Trump is NOT a liar. So, just answer that simple question, then: is he a liar, or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

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And by goddess, there's an abundance of chaff. yes I agree, its certainly doesnt help when the chaff is abundant at the top end of the US political scene

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You still haven't answered my question. As a Trump supporter, does he just not know what he's taking about, or is he a flat out liar?

I don’t think neither, sorry if that answer disappointed you.

From Reagan visiting the troops and 'welcoming' back the coffins of the dead, to GWB holding weeping relatives of the fallen, to Obama doing the same, the proof is everywhere -- not our fault you choose not to see it after claiming Trump is NOT a liar. So, just answer that simple question, then: is he a liar, or just doesn't know what he's talking about?

From the latest reports Gen. Kelly’s son died in battle and he said, Obama never called him up, so let’s turn the question around, maybe it was the Obama administration that is doing the lying.

I hope you're not expecting too much.

Regurgitating the same questions repeatedly, yes, don’t expect too much.

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Most Universities are scams. Don't see much of a difference. most actually give you skills to be a professional eg doctor, vet, psychiatrist, engineer. Trump University ah!? a piece of paper.

Regurgitating the same questions repeatedly, yes, don’t expect too much. well youll get that if you keep getting answer that have no substance or FACTS to back them up, using Trumps statements as proof of FACT doesn't make it one.

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See that Trump called the widow of one of the fallen soldiers and said....he knew what he was signing up for...Typical Trump not a compassionate bone in the man just a self serving pos..

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Gen. Kelly’s son died in battle and he said, Obama never called him up

Kelly, whose son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010, attended a 2011 White House breakfast for Gold Star families with his wife. The two were seated at first lady Michelle Obama's table

*Kelly has not responded to any of the claims, but if he had, he may have mentioned the 2011 breakfast, or a ceremony Kelly went to the following year.*

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/17/that-time-john-kelly-dined-with-obama-though-white-house-said-he-didnt-call/

Obama may or may not have made a personal call to the Kellys after the death of their son.

We have it on record that Trump tried to exploit the death of a US Marine and the grief of his parents, in order to bolster his own ego.

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Once again this crazy stuff he touts...like the celebrating muslims in NJ on 911

At least there was a kernel of truth there, however vilely misrepresented. There was celebrating, but not in NJ.

This current whopper of his is a full-cloth fabrication with not the remotest basis in reality.

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The Obamas honored General Kelly’s Family.

… General Kelly and his wife attended a Gold Star families breakfast at the White House in 2011 and sat at the First Lady’s table. …

Therefore — Trump has been caught lying again.

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Such an awful man. Thanks for nothing, Putin.

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Democrats can’t count, even if Trump has (as Dems like to say) 30% of voters it comes out to about 164 million few people. Lol

the entire population of the usa is 320 million. 30% =96 million. trump got 62,979,636 votes.

math is hard. i guess.

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Whew! Stock up on the "Kool Aid" guys. It is quite possible that this man is going to be the United States President through 2024, after which date most probably VP Pence through 2032. Instead of hate, pray for success! Tax reductions, full employment, Yyuge surpluses, peace in the Middle East, the return of the Democratic party back to sanity. The benefits will surely flow back to our beloved Japan and to all other nations.

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Kelly and his wife attended a breakfast for Gold Star families at the White House in 2011 and sat at first lady Michelle Obama’s table, a person familiar with the breakfast told ABC News.

But the breakfast, scheduled to be hosted by the Obamas, was six months after the death of Kelly’s son. It’s unclear whether President Obama contacted Kelly in any way prior to this.

In other words, we really don’t know if the Obama’s did or did not talk with the Kelly’s. I don’t want to speculate, but I’m not just going to take that administrations word for it given their history with lies and deceits. A big factor why they all lost everything. I’m not in the WH, I don’t know any of these people and I don’t know what he said or she said. But these people would have the inside knowledge.

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I’m not in the WH

I was and I know personally that Obama did not call Kelly. That is true. Actually he personally met him. His staff made arrangements by phone then Obama met him personally.

No, Obama did not call him. He went beyond that by personally meeting him.

Wow, lots of people are really angry at Trump for his behavior. Obama never had any kind of this kind of anger towards him from loved ones of soldiers who died.

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I was and I know personally that Obama did not call Kelly. That is true. Actually he personally met him. His staff made arrangements by phone then Obama met him personally. 

No, Obama did not call him. He went beyond that by personally meeting him.

You have zero proof, but if you do, please do enlighten us and share it with us. I got my popcorn all buttered up.

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didn't Edward Snowden tell us that calls are recorded by the NSA?

ask him

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There’s nothing to defend because I don’t know the other side, nor did we see proof that the previous presidents did or did not visit many of the fallen soldiers families.

What are you talking about? They have plenty of witnesses who have seen past Presidents doing these things. This whole, "Did you see it with your own eyes?" is not an argument for a rational adult to make. Any one of us could ask, "where you there?" to 95% of all posts on this message board, at which point we would no longer have discussions.

If you're going to come here and talk/debate, then do it. Don't bring the level of discussion down to nonsense just because you struggle to respond to points others make.

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This whole, "Did you see it with your own eyes?" is not an argument for a rational adult to make. Any one of us could ask, "where you there?" to 95% of all posts on this message board, at which point we would no longer have discussions.

Because it’s a fact. The left never wants to challenged on facts, the media just spews out day to day fake news most of it to antagonize or uproot the president and nothing is fact checked and the left just eat it up. So I don’t think asking or challenging these statements is irrational at all.

If you're going to come here and talk/debate, then do it. Don't bring the level of discussion down to nonsense just because you struggle to respond to points others make.

Back at you guys.

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The left never wants to challenged on facts

Do you believe Trump's discrimination case is a fact?

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bass4funk: Once again defending the indefensible. Sorry, but not only could Trump not back up his ridiculous claims, they were PROVEN false immediately after he made them. You asked for proof that previous presidents have gone to see the dead brought back to the US from overseas, or talked to the fallen's families, and you were given it. And yet you still deny Trump was wrong. It is FACT that he lied -- either than or had no idea what he was talking about. Which is it? And what does it say that you blindly support a man who either lies or does not know what he's doing?

"The left never wants to challenged on facts"

You never want to accept them... you just call the facts 'fake', and accept lies as gospel. This has proven that more than ever. Now Trump has been caught in ANOTHER lie on this subject, saying "He knew what he was getting into", which has been verified by the person he said it to as well as others who overheard, but Trump's response? "The Governor lied! I have proof!"

Well, since you always ask for proof, and are given it, bass, where's Trump's proof? Is it perhaps lying in "Trump's Proof Box" with the Obama's wiretaps proof? With the proof Obama wasn't born in the US? With the proof the election was rigged? and all the other "proof" that never materializes under Trump? Maybe it's with the $25,000 cheque he claims he paid to a fallen soldier's family but that never arrived, or with the "tens of MILLIONS" he claims he's given to charity when it's not even close to what he's actually given.

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bass

There is no 'proof' that would ever satisfy you because, like Trump, you'd just say such proof was made up anyway. I imagine Trump and bass will start using the terms 'fake proof' and 'fake truth' soon!

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Readers, once again, since some of you are unable to stop bickering, this thread is now closed.

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